₦airaland Forum

ASUU, NLC problems will always be there,and sure it is the responsibility of the govt to attend to their yearnings. Negotiations are on already. Investing $200m into the entertainment industry is not a wrong move,but a move long overdue. The entertaiment industry is one of the highest employer of labour;and a sector capable of generating wholesome revenue if properly funded and managed. All the funds giving to our tertiary institutions over the years,what justice have they been able to do with them? Instead you hear cases whereby some VC are being chased up and down by anti-curruption agencies. And workers are just like oliver,they will always ask for more;and that's just the case the world over.

Every sector needs govt attention,and this is the first major involvement by the govt towards the entertainment industry. It shouldn't be discouraged. Afterall,it is just few of the sectors paying off for nigeria.

Humbled starting the new thread with y'all. Is good to see the sweeping hurricane (el nino) is back at his best form. New owners! New throphies! YNWA!!!

dunno why u guys are crying your eye-balls out. gettova the defeat already and stop the "if nots and what ifs." playing the most successful club in england at home,even though they've been trying to fight their way back to rhythm presently is not expected to be a milk game. The table just turned against chelsea like it did against liverpool last season. I'll advice you go brace the bridge at stamford for it to be strong enough to take on more assaults from liverpool during the second game. It might just be a home and away win for liverpool,just like two seasons ago. See you at stamford!

^^^Perherps,you sure need mental evaluation!

I wasn't surprised we took the midfield. With a midfield studed with gerrard,kurt,maxi,lucas,and mereles;and with the absence of lampard,benayoun, and essien,then what do you expect. . . .Just glad torres in back terrorizing like he used to. UP LIVERPOOL!!!

Since when did chelsea had no problem "dealing" with liverpool? Maybe since last season? This might just be a different story;even though liverpool is said be be in their worst form.

@Mudley, hold on to your void idea. I understand the philosophy more than you do;but i tell you is just a ruse. There is no sitting on the fence. There are things we reject but still have a way of affecting our lives. There are no exemptions!

But to the topic,much been said already. Is just left for us to reason with the truth.

@Vadexcool: i suspect someone has been doing his homework.  I thank google for your life. This is just a case of one man's excuse to grab power. It has nothing to do with religious movement, but power greed. More than 80% of ugandans are christians already. He is just a typical,power thirsty "war lord." They terrorize the region not base on religous sentiments. Kone is just a rebel who doesn't care if you're a muslim or christian before he unleashes terror.

Vodoo_cool: you're such a miserable joke. I guess your mental proccessor absorb informations via a reverse option? Did i hear you say lord resistant army? You're so dumb to understand they are "war lords?" what's all these got to do with liberation fighters. Do you think we lack decent informations like you do? U know am begining to think you're suffering from humptington syndrome.

I tell you, your imams do solely rely on bible references to validate their preaching from the quran before it can make meanings. Most of the time you see them with a bible to support the genuinty of their preachings. Most of the things you see inside the quran were copied from the bible,of cause,added with some major perversions. Your chief imam can never talk ill about the bible. A novice like you is just being mischieveous. You're so misled!

^^^Your ignorance. I av passed that street before. At least you need to understand what you're into. Pitty!

Mudley313: was it dr frankinstein that gave you that analogy? Stop kiddin kiddo! There are no neutral grounds. You don't have to accept somethings before they affect your life!

@blasphemy: don't eat any sallah ram this year untill you ask your imam the reason the rams are killed. That's your assigment. I just hope he understands too.

^^ lol you're so kiddin. Your own case differs.

bash phemmy: you are so confuse! Who is abraham? Do you know christ is from the linage of abraham? Do you also know that God promised abraham that out of his seed the whole world will be blessed? To comfirm this,trace the linage of abraham to jesus. And that's why jesus said,"even abraham rejoice to see my days."

You talked about abraham killing a ram. Do you think the ram he killed was just for him and his family to eat? Don't you know that he sacrificed it to God for the atonement of sin? Don't you know that such is been practice too by other jews in their temples?
But christ paid the altimate sacrifice,you need that no more; and that's why he said "it is finished," when he shed his blood. You don't even know what the practice is all about,you're refering me to the bible. Christians don't slaugther anything for sarcrifice during christmas as you claimed. The killing of meat is just for celebration,not for sheding the blood of an animal. One can just deside not to kill any meat for christmas,and eat something else. Bet for muslims,its a neccesity to shed the blood of a ram for the atonement of sins. Is just unfortunate you don't understand your sacrifice is to the devil.

bashy demmy: the reason i do overlook some things you said is just that they are somewhat unreasonable and shows your level of fatuity and dastard thinking.
You trying to say christians kill chickens for remission of sin is laughable and daunting. Christians celebrate christmas by killing and eating whatever individual so like and can afford. No incantations like muslims do,because theirs is offering a sacrifice to a god,which must be done by beaded alpha . It must also be a ram just to mimic the old practice of atonement,and for it to be accepted by the gods. Pegans do same too
Your last reply just emphasized your folly beyond doubt. Iam trying to correct vadexcool impression that chist death and resurrection could have been planned,you're still busy in your autistic behavior. Only a fool can believe such happening of great magnitude can be framed. When those people like the jewish priests and the romans could not oppose the fact that it happend,cus they can't deny it for they are witnesses,even the jewish priests took it upon themselves to kill his diciples for they fear the multitudes have accepted christ,meanwhile making them irrelevant. The fact that romans are followers of christ today shows they can't deny it. There is no two ways to the truth. And no matter how much water you pure on a drop of oil to cover it up,it will always float above the water. They could not hide it even if they wanted. Just coming out and say the deciples were lairs,that christ didn't die or resurrected the third day,there will be no christianity today.

@vadexcool Wow! Your level of ignorance is so overwhelming,and all your conclusions are based on deluded misinformation. You've shown you have no iota of understanding about islam already,but yet fooling yourself you understanding much of christianity.

I tell you in a lay-man's language that,if jesus didn't die on the cross,and didn't rise from the dead as he foretold,his diciples won't be going about preaching and healing multitudes in the name of jesus afterwards,and this even cost them their lives. Before,they were afraid and locked themselves up when jesus was captured and killed;even peter denied ever knowing him thrice. But all of a sudden,they came out bold as a lion,lamenting the name of christ,saying that he is the son of God,even to the point of their death. What do you think happend to their faith that was before dead? If jesus didn't die or resurrected,the jewish priests who are his arch enemies would have been out to confront and discredit their claims. And the romans would have come out to say he escaped before they could cary out his cruxifiction. Or he didn't rise from the dead but his corpse was stolen by his diciples while they were guarding the tomb. And saul of tarsus who was the greatest anti-christ of the time wouldn't have confess him to being who he was;and also die for this sake.

For God so love the world that he gave his only begotten son,that who so ever believeth in him should not perish but have eternal life. Don't know what you mean "the jews only"
and the jews refusing him is prophecy being fufilled! It is quite difficult to believe the messiah is living just three blocks from you. I don't blame them.

@bashy _demmy: its quite understandable to be angry or attach  sentiments to your comments;but at least let common sense carry the day.
The practice whereby muslims slaughter and shed the blood of animals(ram,cow,as the case may be) is just to mimic the practice of old. If the rams are just for merriments,why do muslims go out of their way just to meet up with it? You don't just call a day "holy," slaughter a ram,and drain its blood on the earth for just fantasy. If you don't have the time to confide in your iman its essence, right away,i tell it to you its primary purpose is to show soberness and ask for the remission of sin. But the unfortunate thing is that no ammount of the blood of the billions of rams you guys have killed,or still will be killing,there is no remitance of sin. The blood of"the lamb of God," whose blood is the only price enough to cleanse your sins,and he doesn't have to shed it over and over again is the only one God enough(because of his deity),and the only one man enough(because he is the son of man) to cleanse sins totally. The only people that sheds the blood of animals are pegans,occultist and satanist;for the devil thinks he deserve some worships too.


The death of jesus on the cross was delibrate;not accidental or out of his hand. That's why he said "it is finished" on the cross,which means God's promise had been fufilled. We don't need to shed the blood of animals anymore. Because God gave us a green card we don't deserve doesn't mean we should find it preposterous to believe his offer.

Vedaxcool, i can see you're even lost within your own intelligence. I know you delibrately ignore the instances i gave you,and yet came alive with rediculous and bogus accusations and conclusions. I guess the sallah ram,to you, is just one of those meat to be eating? Ask your imam to tell you the basics of its practise.
Without the bible,the quran has no meaning,cus it solely depend on the bible for its religious refrences. And the quran have to talk about the life of chirst too,to save its  own validation.  But never have we seen a place where the bible make refrence(s) to the quran,or mohamed, a mere jihadist.

And the so called "holy month of ramadan," when you people show "soberness" for your sins and delude yourself in believing your sins are forgiving is just but a sham practice and a waste of your limited time on earth.

The one to whom your sins are commited against said he had forgiving you,and his ready to pay the price himself because of his love,and yet you rejected. Instead you re-invented the practice of old.
I say to you with all honesty that, your sacrifices is not to God;but the devil who inspired islam through his manipulating skills and deceit. Am just sorry you and few jihadist are his victims.
You people are now claiming that christ will send a comforter(mohamed) just so to belong. But i say to you,because the one who is the purpose for all the  prophecies had fulfill them,there is no need for another prophet again,unless deceptors jesus warned us about! That's why islam is always associated with killing,amputating,stoning, hanging,and  maiming of innocent souls. It is not of God!

@vedaxcool:
@bashy phemy: I figured out you are muslims . I know what you're saying is that,"what makes jesus so different? It is absurd to believe he is actually the ultimate sacrifice for the sins of the world;and even his own people rejected this claims."
Why so much conflict over one individual? Why is it that his name,more than the name of any other religious leader,causes irritation? It is simply because of his claims to being the son of God,the messiah. But do you know he is the only one that has the credentials to support his claims to being messiah,God's son. Over and over again jesus appealed to the prophecies of the old testament to substantiate his claims as messiah.
To begin,we need to go back to genesis 3:15. Here we have the first messianic prophecy. In all scripture, only one man was "born of the seed of a woman"- all others are born of the seed of man. Another prophecy dating 1012 b.c also predicts that this man's hand and feet will be pierced(will be crucified). This description was written 800 years before crucifiction by the romans. Isaiah 7:14 adds that he will be born of a virgin;a natural birth of unatural conception,a criterion beyond human planing and control. The book of issiah even said he will be rejected by his own people(jews),and the gentiles(non jew) will believe in him. Malachi 3:1 said there will be a forerunner for him,one preparing the way before the lord,a john the baptist. John even confess him to be when he saw him.
I choose from the old testament because i know the muslims have great respect for it,and the quran also conform to its authenticity. But the muslims have their reservations about the new testamenet just like the jews. Why? Becuase its about the christ. But the jewish priests bore witness the birth,death,and his resurrection.

How many billions of rams should be killed for the atonement of sins,even since the time of abraham? You don't have kill another,the price had been paid over 2000  years ago!

Vedaxcool, can see that your assertions are just directly opposite to your comments.Well,let me help you anyways. If what you're saying is that jesus didn't confess to be the son of God, you are far from being right,cus the sciptures you posted didn't say otherwise.
For many people this is too exclusive,too narrow for them to want to believe. Yet the issue is not what do we think or believe,but rather,who did jesus claim to be.
Jesus christ is actually a name(jesus) and a title(christ). The name jesus is derived from the greek form of the name jeshua or joshua meaning "jehovah-savior" or "the lord saves." The title christ is derived from the greek word for messiah(or the hebrew mashiach- Daniel 9:26) and means "anointed one."
The strongest evidence of all is jesus being accused of blasphemy by the jews,and they are always ready to cast thier stones. A good example is during the feast of dedication in jerusalem,jesus was approached by some jewish leaders who asked about his being the christ. He ended his comments to them by saying, "i and the father are one"(john 10:30). The jews took up stone again to stone him. It is evident that those who heard this statement accused him of claiming to be the son of God.
Jesus continuously spoke of himself as one in essence and nature of God. He boldly asserted, "if you know me,you would know my father also"(john 8:19); "He who beholds me beholds the one who sents me"(john 12:45); "All may honor the son,even as they honor the father. All who does not honor the son does not honor the father who sent him"(john 5:23);etc these refrences certainly indicate that jesus looked at himself as more than just a man;rather he was equal with God. And that's why i coclude to say:only a liar,or a lunatic,or lord,as he claimed,can make such statements. Even his diciples confessed him to be. When he was asked by the priest,"are you the christ,the son of the blessed one?" He said, 'Iam.'
Also,no ordinary man forives sins,but jesus did (mark 2:5).

@vedaxcool: it would have been better you ignore my post ,instead of bringing out some incoherent agurment that only show you've totally misconstrue the meaning. word and opossite has nothing to do with this. Only a liar,or a lunatic can make such claim as did he;and the last possibility is that he is actually the son of God.
Someone who lived as jesus lived,taught as jesus taught can niether be a liar nor a lunatic. The other available altanative is that he is actually the son of God,as he claimed. The issue with the three alternatives is not which is possible,for it is obvious that all three are possible. But rather,the question is which is more probable? You cannot put him on the shelf as a great moral teacher or some prophet. That is not a valid option. If he is neither a liar,a lunatic,or lord, then who do you say he is? Unless you're saying he didn't actually confess to being the son of God?

Was he a lunatic,to have made such claim,and died for it?
If it is inconceivable for jesus to be a liar,then couldn't he actually have thought himself to be the son of God? After all,its possible to be both sincere,and yet be wrong. But for someone to think himself "the son of God,"especially in a fiercely monotheistic(one God) culture,and telling others that their salvation depended on believing in him,is no mere fantasy but the thoughts of a lunatic in the fullest sense. Was he such a person?
Someone who believes he is God sounds like someone today believing himself napoleon. He would be schizophrenic a person who is more autistic than realistic. He would be deluded and self-deceived,and probably be locked up so he wouldn't hurt himself or anyone else. Yet in jesus we don't observe the abnormalities and imbalance that usually go with being deranged. The skill and depth of his teachings support the case only for his total sanity and flawless mental soundness. If only we were as sane as he! How could he be an enthusiast or a madman who never lost the even balance of his mind,who sailed serenely over all the troubles and persecutions thrown at him,as the sun above the clouds,who always return the wisest answers to tempting questions,who calmly and delibrately predicted his own death on the cross,his resurrection on the third day,the founding of his church,and the destruction of jerusalem- predictions which have been literally fulfilled? A character so original,so complete,so uniformly consistent,so perfect,so human and yet above all human greatness,can be neither fraud nor fiction. He his far from being a lunatic!

Are there any other possibilities to his claim? Was he really lord?

I believe the claims that jesus is the son of God and savior can be viewed and measured by concluding these three facts: either a lair,lunatic,or lord,as he claimed to be.
If, when jesus made his claims,he knew that he was not God,then he was lying and delibrately deceiving his followers. But if he was a liar,then he was also a hypocrite because he told others to be honest,whatever the cost,while he himself lived a colossal lie. More than that,he was a demon,because he told others to trust him for their eternal destiny. Last, he would also be a fool because it was his claims to being the son of God that led to his crucifixtion.
Many will say that jesus was a good moral teacher. Let's be realistic. How could he be a great moral teacher and knowingly mislead people at the most important point of his teaching,which is his own identity?
Maybe we would have to conclude logically that he was a delibrate liar. This view of jesus,however,doesn't coincide with what we know either of him or the results of his life and teachings. Wherever jesus has been proclaimed,lives have been changed for the good,thieves are made honest,alcoholics are set free,hateful individuals become channels of love,unjust persons become just.
How, in the name of logic,common sense,and experience,could an impostor-  that is deceitful man have invented,and consistently maintained from the begining to the end,the purest and noblest character known in history with the most perfect air of truth and reality? How could he have conceived and successfully carried out a perfect and flawless plan of deceit,and yet maintained a sublime moral magnitude,and sacrifice his own life for it,in the face of the strongest prejudices of his people?
If jesus wanted to fool people to follow him,he wouldn't go to the small jewish nation;a country thoroughly adhering to the undivided unity of God.Why didn't he go to egypt or greece,where they serve various gods? Logically,he couldn't have been a liar.
Then maybe a lunatic?

And this is where duro's big reward realy lies. The bank just made a good mistake. And duro is grateful enough taking the oppurtunity.

Then is best to avoid female students totally in a sharia state. If that make any sense? Don't even talk to them or relate with them in anyway.
Hope the school authority know that sharia laws has its bandary. Its not aplicable to nom muslims. And the last time i checked,the school is not for muslim students alone. And not all muslims advocate sharia law.

At least they can do with hand- shakes?

That is naira is uncountable just like water and sand,so the S won't be needed unlike pounds and dollars?

Jesus died to pay the price we could not and cannot pay on our own;for our good deeds and holiness is not enough( the nature of sin is in our DNA). And God,because of his loving nature, he sent christ to die in our stead. For christ to qualify to take our place,he must be as much man as if he  had never been the son of God and just as much the son of God as if he had never been man. The biblical declaration that "the wages of sin is death" did not apply to him. Because he was not only finite man but finite God,he have the infinite capacity to take upon himself the sins of the world. When he said, "it is finished,"while on the cross, the just,righteous nature of God was satisfied. God was "set free" to deal with humanity in love without having to destroy a sinful individual,because through jesus death on the cross,God's righteous nature was satisfied. And this really means propitiation(satisfaction of a requirement).  

Take for example a criminal,already knowing the punishment for his sins is to be executed. When standing before the jugde,the judge read the citation and said,"guilty or not guilty?" the criminal replied, "guilty." the judge brought down the gavel and sentenced him to death. Then an amazing thing took place. The judge stood up,took off his robe,walked down around in front,and offer to pay the price. What's the explanation of this? The judge was also the father,and yet he was a judge. The son had broken the law,and couldn't treat the case partially. If he had done that,he wouldn't have heen a righteous judge. He wouldn't have upheld the law. But he loved his son so much he was willing to take of his judicial robe and come down to take his place.
This illustration pictures what God did for us through jesus. We sinned. His words says,"the wages of sin is death." No matter how  much he loved us,he had to bring down the gavel and say death,because he is a righteous and just God. And yet he came down to  pay the price cus of his love.

dunno,but maybe cus the word naira is not an english word; like yen, peso,denari etc.

Rosike: how else can i break this to you? Don't be too fast to condem.The important thing about the scenerio i painted isn't about the lamp,the money,neither is it the comparison of God to man. Its just to grasp it a simple way. Read again to understand my point.

"Why did God have to kill is son?"
Even though the question itself is wrong,cus God didn't kill his son;but i'll take it you're trying to say. "Why did God allowed his son to die? Isn't there any other way? Can't an individual simply live a good life? If God is such a loving God,then wouldn't he accept all people just the way they are? Aren't there other ways also to a relationship with him?"
A misunderstanding of the basic nature and character of God has been the cause to so much theological and ethical problems. Apart from love, holiness,justice,and righteousness is also true of God's nature. When he said the wages of sin is death,he is simply just being himself because he abhors sin. But he had to do something when man had fallen,and that proves his loving nature.

Another thing we fail to understand is that when God said he has forgiving us,that doesn't mean a price won't be paid,cus for every act of forgiveness there is always a price to pay. For example let say a child breaks a lamp in a home,but the father who is a loving and forgiving dad say,"don't cry honey. Daddy loves you and forgive you." But then, who pays for the lamp? Even though the father forgave,the fact is the dad paid for the lamp. Which in this case, christ paid the price to uphold God's justice and righteousness,and at the same time,victory was made through his death.

A judge preciding a case that involves his son,over a punishable crime cannot just say,"because he's my son and i love him,he is free to go." Won't there be questions asked about his integrity? The least the judge could do in such a case is taking his place;cus the price just must be paid;else justice would be murdered.

Mygoldie:
YOU ARE A self-servicer MR CORK,  disease.

WADDA!

I think religion is human trying to work their way back to God through good works and worships,but that unfortunately is  not enough for us to have a relationship with him again; we even find it etremely difficult perfecting our good works because of the sinful nature we've inherited; just like it is impossible to change someone's DNA from his parent's.  

Christianity on the other hand is God knowing that our good works is not enough, he reconnect with us through christ, offering us a relationship with himself again. A christian is somebody who puts his trust in christ. Does this mean christianity is not a religion?  God is certainly not a confusionist.

No extra marks.