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This case if far settled. For there is no other name given unto men,but the name of jesus. For in the name of jesus,every kneel shall bow,and every tongue shall confess that he is lord; (even mohamed) . Because some people are yet to cofessing it now,doen't mean they won't confess it later. Many are even confessing today;and that's why there's so much hanger ammong those that believe not. But what can anyone do,the prophecy just must be fufilled.

@pastor AIO: i don't know if you now agree that politics and relegion cannot be far-seperated even though their union is the cause of so many problems in the world today. They both have great influence on each other. Some countries today have try their best in making their government independent of religion influences;but the influence is still obvious;and this union is very fuse in islamic countries.In many islamic countries, their spiritual leaders are also very likely to be their political leaders. Take the case of iran,and other shiite muslim state for example:  "ayatollah" is a prominent religious leader in iran,who also have great influence in  making decision in the government. And in saudi arabia,the king is also known as a islamic religious leader. And that's why is so easy to infuse islamic laws into the constitution of such states. Iran is even known to be an "islamic republic."

Also in nigeria, the emirs and sultans are regarded as spiritual leaders in the north,and in nigeria as a whole. Most people have to wait for the sultan to announce the sighting of the moon for the month of ramadan.

If you're saying that the so many not-humane acts being practice by some muslims are rather politically induced,and have nothing to do with religion,i don't really think so. To say that,in this case,its sure contradiction.

^^ don't put sentiment before  right thinking. U just had to gulped all he said to show solidarity? Am sure if you give your brain a chance,you might just realise his false claims.

^^such porous claims. And which islamic empire was the "world's largest empire?" Maybe in jupiter?

The problem with muslims is that,to them,all non- muslims are pegans. Am not surprised you said most of the so-called world power are pegans.

And talking about ponography,you really need to be carefull,cus we have those that call themselves die-hard muslims and christians alike, falling victim to such indecency. Only individuals can honestly tell for himself. We have running ponography companies operating in islamic countries too. And those northern politicians clarmouring for sharia laws are mostly guilty of immoral expenditions.

When you say "islam is the fastest growing religion," i doubt we both have the same understanding of such statement. Indonesia is the country that's with the highest number of muslims in the world;and one of the country that's mostly enjoying the influx of churches and christians. I'll be dissapointed if you're considering india in this respect,cus we know that muslims are by far the minority. And you don't say because north africans and other arabs,migrating to some european countries and  the U.S.  are being received with open arms,because of the librality of such states,now imply that islam is spreading in the west. Islam is not spreadind;only tha t muslims are moving to the west more than before. And most of them pleaded for such grants,while others,through illegal migration: Spain is one of such european countries having this problem. Most of the north africans are illegal imigrants.

And just so you know that almost  40% of the world's population are christians,while muslims,hindus,buddhist,and others share the remaining percentage.

This is just the wrongest time for any country to go to war. Even the world economic giants can't afford to . The world economy would be in total shambles.They'll do well sticking to diplomacy. If that fails,well,nigeria might just come out as the latest super power. We'll dish out a recue package to save the world economy.

@pastor AIO: some might believe this to be a myth;but theocracy was the first and the original type of goverment,even since the time of the first humans. No king or leader was ordained by the people,only by  God. And the kings were believed to be his mouth-piece. Take the case of the isreal. Even the egytians,greeks,and romans believed in some deity(gods) as   their original ruler. And no king or ruler were appointed without consulting the gods. And a king or ruler can also be removed by the pronouncememts of the gods.

Also in africa,kings and rulers are appointed,consenting to the choice of their ancestral gods. In africa,kings are believe to be representatives of the gods,even till date. All these are conforming to this fact. But i do welcome your contrary view.

@vadaxcool: forgive my "what ifs and maybes ." I was just being careful not to be too conclusive. And thats why my op were all in question forms,so you can argue the contrary. But what i don't understand is why you're burning like a furnace;cus you said it yourself that they were inconclusive?

When you're saying muslims are more tolerant, could not but think you're so oblivious of things happening around you. Well,i'll rather conclude you're just being defensive,which is understandable. Your eyes will be clouded from seeing these facts when you're still within. But, i bet,those looking from a distance wouldn't say the same thing. Unless  they are just trying to maintain the fragile peace.    

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@rhino: i guess to you,the two WW's was about religion, and relgion intolerance? And hitler, a christian,acting as God directed?  
Dumber man!

I also understand christianity was shoved into people's throat in your village? Was it not the missionaries that put an end to various dastard acts: like killing of twins,and human sacrifice for some dumb, illitrate gods your fore-dads worshiped? Maybe yourself would have been given to those gods as after-meal bonus.

And your fallacious idea that catholism is the genesis of christianity is a quack. In retrospect to those previous comments, the early churches started by the early christians had nothing to do with the catholic? The catholic church was later started by the romans,and was the most influecial then. Christianity is centered to christ,and not the catholic church.  

The practice of burning people believed to be withches,or practicing hersay was later stoped when the medieval christian age understood better, that people like that can be excorcised. But i know muslims can stone someone to death today,just by touching the quran with a left hand;and by drawing a picture of mohamed using a public convinience. Measure the balance of barbarism. You egg-head!    


@fellis: i understand muslims are begining to realise western education shouldn't be considered unislamic. But the boko haram don't still agree to that. I also understand die-hard muslims now send their girls to school. Thanks to the fervent sensitization and encouragements of the government. But you just must agree with me there's more to be done,especially in the north.

About the london shoe  bomber,i understand. But that's one out of a milling stance. Don't be awed when you hear of another dec 25 terror attempt this year.
Tell the families of victims of the london underground bombing;and the sept 11 attack, that the events was just as good as a mere propaganda. I know you wouldn't.

@uri iredia: maybe because we can't honestly seperate religion from politics,and vice versa;cus the orignal type of goverment was theocracy. But we shouldn't use one as an excuse against the other. Are you saying that the barbaric act of killing a teacher because she collected a quran from a student before an exam is political? I don't think so.

@rhino:your fatuity is so daunting. Please stop the gibberish. I don't know of your fore-dads who were force into christianity. Am sorry. Christianity is by freewill. And even your fore-dads had a choice. And they were not executed for paying dues to their gods. Even most of african traditions and religion still strive today ammong europeans,for those who want to practice. Even though i don't support slavery,it has nothing to do with christian crusades. Don't bring the slave era into this,cus it was purely for economic gains. It has nothing to do with forceful religion promugations. I'll advice you bring your brain out of your back pocket. And stop this delusions.

@pastor AIO: couldn't agree more to most of your post;but on the contrary to what you said about an-andalus; they took most parts of spain,submitting people to islam against their wish,and intended to turn spain into an islamic nation. But they were later conquerd by king ferdinand.

The ottoman empire is no different. They took part of europe,and enforced islam to most of europe and north africa. Don't forget that there were other formidable empires and kingdom that were powerful enough to challenge them. And that's why the attempt wasn't a success.

@rhino: the only naive fellow is you. You waited for a bail-out before running back to spew your junk- words? What about the roman catholic? I guess you wanted to say the catholic are going about,shoving christianity on muslims' throat,and promoting some maniac laws like sharia?

@uredia:talking about sa'laadin;aven't history thought you the fact that he took jerusalem by force,and made it an islamic city,whereby mosques were built,and submitting people to islam and islamic laws by force,before jerusalem was taken back by the jews,backed by the romans?

The facts i posted up there are real. We cannot shy away from it. If you don't agree with it,then prove the contrary to each claims. I believe you can compare what a muslim in the UK is going through from a christian in iran? I assure you i have no bias intensions. Its just the reality.

Rhino,the facts are so vivid for even a blind man to see. I know you'er just being defensive. Don't know what you mean by "direct order from yaweh to invade and plunder life?" And that was actually direct.

I don't know when christianity is being forced on the iraqis and other arabs. Instead is the other way round. Maybe you got that from al-jazeera?

Last time i checked on history book,hiroshima a-bombing was an answer to peal habour. Don't even see how the world war was directed to muslims. Christians and jews bore the brunt more than anyone. Neither was the world war for christian crusaders.

Everyone know how eager muslims want to force sharia on non muslims. And we also know how shool of terror are recruiting,training young terrorist in camps. We know how muslim have no regard for the life of "imbeciles." And we also know the hell christians are going through in muslims countries,while goverment in other country protect and assure their safety and intrest.
We know muslims believe women are slave that need no right to education,or to be heard in public.

And we know how the nothern mephistophelian are ravaging nigeria with their wholesome barbaric acts.

God knows what is doing,subduing muslims and their influence everywhere.

What if the likes of iran,yemen,pakistan,libya,and palestinian are the most powerfull nations on earth? Won't they force islam on the world? What will be the faith of christians and jewish isreal? Maybe isreal would have been rubed-off the face of the earth by now? What would happen to unbelievers who muslims believes are imbeciles? To them,unbelievers are "the expendables." They would be killed at every glimpse;cus,to them, killing  ubelievers is a sure green card to al- jannah?

Islam would have been shoved right into our throat,cus muslims don't bevieve faith is by free-will. Oh no! Talk about sharia laws. That would have been our constitution in nigeria. And the north,our mecca. Terrorism would have been the major subject taught in schools. And education, a far-dream for our girls.

Thank God the reverse is the case!

Am suspecting you guys. Abi na yemen you dey.

You guys don't even understand your doctrine and prophets,and yet you think you can ever understand and dictate bible meanings? Now i know,to you guys,argument is not about being right, No wondder its been a futile effort on your other thread,lagoshia. Uplawal should seperate two brothers-in-islam o,before they bring out daggars.

Can see you've choze to succumb.Any other bruhaha will be very uneccessary. Case closed!!!

@uplawal: you are not really ready for honest opinions,but,rather,you want people to share the same parallel conclusion with you. But i noticed you consent to the fact that mohamed is truely a peace-killer.

@ogaga4luv: thanks for the eye-opener!

@sweetnecta
@lagoshai: when jesus said to his larger deciples "you'll do greater works than these." He knew the greatest miracle of all is winning souls for the kingdom. Even though healing the sick and raising  the dead are such profound miracles,and these miracle still happen today,i don't know about your own garthering. But to win just a single soul surpasses all these. And you can imagine how much soul  being won today by his christian. He knew they will do much more than he did because he knew he had a short time with them.

And when jesus said "this generation shall not pass away before these things will come to pass," it was exactly as he said;cus immediately after his resurrection,the good news was being preached everywhere,persecution of christian started,and the gospel  strive even ammong gentiles.

Also when he said to john"you shall tarry till i come." John did tarried. He was the only one alive ammong the twelve to recieve the revelation of events of his last coming: the amageddon,and the judgement of the devil and his followers. Christ used him to write the book of revelation . Then he will not appear to just a few. But the whole world shall behold him. The jews,the muslims,hindus,athiests,agnostics,and christians alike.

Some arab empire(maybe ottoman) took some very good part of spain then,but the catholic king ferdinarnd defeated and chased them out of spain. Of course we still have some muslims,mostly from north africa in spain and other european states;just like we have christians in the middle-east. I don't know what you're getting at,but you should know that almost 40% of the world population are christians,while islam,judaism,hinduism and others share the other percentage. Do you know the number of muslims converting to christianity today? Why is it that muslims always have the notion of being surpressed by christians,and carry this symbol of paranoia world over,while christians stay calm,and not react to everything at its slightest provocation? Because you are the minority. And you're too paranoid the religion will go into total eclipse. Frustrated muslims in jos are just vivid example of this fact.

I don't even know what all these have got to do with the topic. But i had to answer you anyway.

^^ Every prophecy in the bible must come to reality even in their own time. And not all will be giving the grace to see and understand them.

Even though every prophecy about the birth,life,and resurrection of christ was fufilled in him before the eyes of the religious mogul of his days,they still believe he was not the promised messiah. And a good number of jews today are still waiting for the prophecy to come to pass,still waiting for the coming of the christ,even though all was said and done over two thousand years ago. Not everyone will have the grace to see these prophecy coming to pass. And not everyone will understand even when they see it with their own eyes.

^^ lol then make her choose from being an hausa or yoruba.

For the fact that you're making such dastard statement,even though your claims shows you don't uderstand what you saw,but came out anyway to flaunt your parochial sense of reasoning on a public forum.
You did not reason from what you observed,but,rather, observed whatever you had already reason. Its going to be a tardy effort making you realise this,but am sorry i can't make such sacrifice. Your case is way over me cus you brought the topic as a challenge,and not to get some views and explanations about the topic Peace!

A welcome development.

You can't see nothing about jerusalem taken by arabs in your own post? Oh my. . ! I guess what you did was to search,copy, paste and post, without the knowledge of what you're posting? Do yourself a favour by reading before posting your poems in future.

I gave you the prophetic "events of the last days" in the new testament you said is full of false prophecies,events practically coming to pass before our own eyes;and even gave pellucid refrences to secular encyclopedia and tele media comfirming the same truth of these prophecies. I asked a simple quest for you to do same from the quran,but all you posted was some legendary tales and poems to back them. Is no effort at all!

There are so much more in the new testament. The ones i posted was delibrate,because they are happening before our eyes now. No wonder nostradamus had to use the bible for the backing of future events revealed to him.

@lagoshai:Am frankly dissapointed in you. I requested you post some quranic prophecies being fufilled today,but all i get is nursery rhymes. The only notable one is that of the jews losing jerusalem to the arabs,which was eventually regained. And this prophecy was given to daniel and ezekiel close to a thousand years before it actually took place.

It is right to say that the quran was partly curled from the bible just to consent it partially with some meanings. Apart from those,i don't know bout you,but i see nothing but medieval age poems.

I can see your coming on here with false and unfounded speculations is petent to your fruastration. You talked about scrutiny. What other evidence do you need,better than the comfirmations of these prophecies?

Will be glad if you answer my questions bout the quran here. No need to open another thread. And don't forget that of seyibrown's question bout the quran too.
The one thing you can't take away from the bible is precision.

And all that are yet to come to pass will surely do when the time comes. Some are even fufilled,only than you are not conscious enough to observe;or that the grace to acknwoledge it is not giving to you. The bible is the only book that talks the mind of God. And more than 90% of its prophecies had been fufilled.
I just choose to post the event of the days we both are living just to tell you how perfectly precise the bible.
Thank God for technology. Kindly launch your search engine by comfirming these facts.

Are there revelations of things to come in the quran? And how far have they come to pass?

All you posted in your original post are just your misconceptions and misconstrusions. You can never understand their meanings when your mission in the first place was to criticise. The truth will be hidden from the mockers. Only those that are honest will have the grace of its revelations.

False prophecies? The new testament is actually the book that tells of "event of the last days" which are coming to past already.

"nation will rise againts nation and kingdom against kingdom." (matthew 24:7) millions of peple have been in wars during the past century. A british historian wrote:"the 20th century was the most murderous in recorded history. . More than 100 million people have died as a result of wars since 1914.

"there will be food shortages"(matthew 24:7) researchers say that food production has increased greatly during the past 30ys. Nevertheless,food shortages continue because people do not have enough money to buy food or land to raise crops. Well over a billing people have to live on less than a dollar per day. The majority of these suffer from chronic hunger. World health organization estimates that malnutrition plays a major role in the deaths of more than five million children each year.

"there will be great earthquakes"(luke 21:11) according to the U.S. Geological survey,since 1990 alone an average of 17 eathquakes per year have been powerful enough to damage building and crack the ground. And on average,earthquakes strong enough to cause total destruction of buildings have occured yearly. Another source states:"earthquakes have claimed more than hundreds of thousands of lives in the last 100 years and improvements in technology have only slightly reduced the death toll."

"people of the last days"
the apostle paul(whom you so detest) what people in general would be like. At 2 Timothy 3:1-5,we read:"in the last days critical times hard to deal with will be here." in part,paul said that people would be- lovers of themselves,lovers of money,having no natural affection,without self control,fierce, lovers of pleasures rather than lovers of God,having a form of Godly devotion but proving false to his power.
All these thing are already being manifested,and i know you cannot deny it cus it affects you too.

Johnson scores!!! He surely must prove himself more.

^^^ No be everyone weh go abroard go for the sake of making money.

^^ don't buldge dude. Playing chelsea is like their whole world is at stake.

The guys need to give every game the same approach!

What difference. Make dem just shut-up. Military engineers are to gradually take turn before the final take-over by private hands,so phcn workers won't blackmail the govt by delibrate moves to fruastrate services. They should send them packing already!

How i wish oyo and osun governor suffer the same faith.