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Pls whats with the threads you keep opening every minute even mamagee wasnt this bad

Some of these kids are product of rapes and others were products of consenting relationships

^^ Was this kind of investigation done on Abacha, Madoff and co to determine which of the money was from scams/looting and which was from legal means

Kobojunkie:
Oh Please stop it!! Genuine relationships my foot!!! lol

Like you yourself posted, ra-pe is a problem, and I say this should be investigated. If it is found out that some of our soldiers despoiled these women, I hope they be humiliated and made to face the same.

I don't believe what I am reading here . /.

You mean they cant date Nigerian soldiers?

My own thinking is that if your are raped, there is a high chance you wont know the nationalties of the attackers as he wont come there wearing a Naija flag.

Tell me if someone was raped in Chicago by a white male, would she know if the attacker is a Slavic descendant or from the Irish. Would she know if he is from California or from NJ. Most likely her report would be that he is around 30, M blond etc and this kind of description fits all Africans

The situation was probably the soldiers made friends with their host community. The Liquors seller, the high sch chic, the market woman, They were just toasting them. The girls too felt thats an avenue to get out of war torn Liberia.

The soldiers were abruptly posted from Liberia and the girlfriends had kids for them

By genuine i mean they dated and not raped.

Of course most women would jump at the opportunity to date a soldier during war, at least for the security.

The oldest of those kids should be older than 16 maybe like 20 because Liberia war started like 1989 iirc

[quote author=Ileke-IdI link=topic=476882.msg6427908#msg6427908 date=1279750946]Now you know that that is a very complex issue [/quote]Complex because women are soo Hot and hungry that they always look to get laid, pop kids and claim child support

chyz:
Nigerian soldiers were made to leave sudan a few years ago for despoiling their women. Black African people who are being killed of by African Arabs. These are who you choose to disgrace. I dont understand these people that are in the Nigerian army, bush people.

The Soviet soldiers r@ped German women after the WW2 way back in 1945. Its a general military problem not peculiar to Nigeria

Sometime back I heard some American soldiers r@ped Iraqis

They could have had genuine relationships with the women. But had to leave after war.

If it was r@pe, I doubt the victim would know if they were Nigerians or not. "My people say wey car jam no dey pick plate number"

[quote author=Ileke-IdI link=topic=476882.msg6427803#msg6427803 date=1279749794]Dayo

Where's oyinda? Stop being nasty[/quote]Can you tell us where and when you tasted breast milk recently?

[quote author=Ileke-IdI link=topic=476882.msg6427763#msg6427763 date=1279749308]They're babies. . . they're not supposed to be eating something with sugar like that. Have you tasted bosom milk/ baby formula? They taste nasty.

As children grow older, they begin to eat food that actually taste like food. [/quote] You mean you have tasted breast milk in your adult life and remember the taste?

What else havent you tasted

agathamari:
in times/places where your identity must be established by policy or for security resons such as cortrooms, driver license, schools, banks, and similar then yes by all means require them to remove it. at other times, it is not causing you any harm to allow them to wear it

Dont you think its a security risk standing beside a masked person in public when we are no doing Halloween

CarlosVent:
PLS JUST BE CAREFUL IN your CRITICISM OR ELSE U MIGHT SAY SOMETHING AGAINST D HOLY SPIRIT AND D BIBLE SAID D SIN CANT AND CAN NEVER B 4GVEN.

AM NOT SIDING ANYBODY BT DATS MY PIECE OF ADVICE

Criticism of genuine Men of God, Not those who steal money

Mamagee  

When it comes to the issue of money, Church leaders turn to lawmakers who must sit on the loot at all cost

[quote author=Tee_Jay link=topic=481794.msg6427093#msg6427093 date=1279742513]monies paid to RCCG was voluntary, it was never a means to launder money so even if it is proven the man looted public funds RCCG is not obliged to refund such funds.
The reality os it all is that if the man mingled legit money with stolen ones then how on earth is the church going to separate the two? on the other hand[/quote]The money Sani Abacha put in Mohammed Abachas custody too were done voluntarily, So why was Mohammed Abacha hounded to return the money.

The reality was that Abacha, Ibori, Bode george, Alams all probably mingled legit money wih stolen ones

I ahve been waiting for you on Man utd thread

^^ When i go begin toast dem make dem recruit me, Say na work i dey find before dem kidnap me, I ready write aptitude test and submit CV sef

Have the property firms he bought from come out to say how much he spent on homes and refunded? Have the petrol stations come out to detail how much he spent and refunded? Have the airlines declared how much he spent on plane tickets?

More pertinently, have his employers stated how much he earned legitimately to be able to discern whether anything he gave to RCCG was above/below what could be legally avoided?

Whether cheques can be traced or not, the church's duty is not to release information on individual members for the fun of it. Let a court convict Akingbola, or demand the evidence from RCCG and it can then be provided. Anything beyond that is chasing shadows.

Question: Do RCCG need to wait for Police to come hound them before they do what is right? What is right to me means returning stolen money back to the rightful owners.

Quite true - when did giving to RCCG become an asset?
When did RCCG become a bank where money was kept by Akingbola?

RCCG and Adeboye have become an avenue for the CEO's and Politicians to launder money because they know their paddy that keeps the loot for them is beyond investigation.

Its like keeping proceeds of robbery with a Pastor since we know the Priest wont be searched.

You are being presumptive - there is NO EVIDENCE that any giving to RCCG was out of looted funds. If any such evidence exists, it is the duty of the investigative agencies to provide it. The church is not in the business of verification of income - that is the government and tax agencies' job.

There was no evidence that the money Abacha kept in Swiss banks were specifically looted funds, They could have been proceeds from business, Salary as GOC, Head of state or a General of close to 20yrs.

How come we didnt ask these questions when it comes to Abacha but we are now asking for these evidence when Pastor Eunuch is involved

Honour lies in returning any identified illegal gain - this must come at the behest of constituted authority. The church is not established to investigate members for financial impropriety in the financial services industry - the regulators and the police are supposed to do that.

if I bring a gun to church or the head of a child, I believe the church is not constituted to investigate what I am dong with guns or beheaded corpse thats the Police work right?

A man who stole his bank and depositors We are now debating whether the money should be returned or not. What happens to the millions who live savings Akingbola stole. GoDaddy is not concerned as long as he can floss in the Gulfstream Jet and sip tea with God

JUO:
are u now God to judge?

Return money to people it was stolen from, Now don turn to "are u now God to judge?"

How dem take relate? Must you be God to know that money stolen from people should be returned?

Season never start Woe don begin.

follypimpi:
Walcott is a clueless player not skillfull and his decision making is poor.AW better buy a GK,DF,DM.

Slow down homie. Its not Walcott's fault, You cant do beyond your brain capacity. AW better buy a brain

The shadow of Bayern Munich returned to impede the transfer market of Madrid. The arrival of Sami Khedira has slowed because the Stuttgart midfielder has a preliminary agreement with the Munich club for the 2010-11 season (when his current contract ends) and his agent is using this letter to put pressure on Madrid in order to trigger the player's salary.

Jörg Neubauer, the representative of Metzelder and has acted as intermediary in the deal with Schalke 04 Raul, Real Madrid has reported that besides the pre-agreement with Bayern runs a number of important deals by Khedira, one of Chelsea.

Neubauer's strategy is to get the salary of the German international reach seven million annual gross taking advantage of the pact with the Bayern includes a significant premium for the player to sign, and would come to Munich for free.

http://www.as.com/futbol/articulo/problema-khedira-tiene-preacuerdo-bayern/dasftb/20100721dasdaiftb_22/Tes

[quote author=~Sauron~ link=topic=443065.msg6426747#msg6426747 date=1279738603]I don't mind Mamagee pitching her tents here. . . . . .She brings something different to this section.[/quote]What different something are you talking to, No be only mamagee get boobs

The kidnappers go lose when I begin chop dem food

debosky:
Firstly, there can be no 'refunds' unless the exact figures they gave were recorded.

So shouldnt the church as an upright organisation come out and state how much was made from Akingbola and refund it? Most of the money he donated would be through cheques which can be traced and audited, I assume no one can drop 1m Naira cash into the offering bag.

Secondly, you would need to prove that the monies the individuals contributed to RCCG was from looted funds, not from their incomes.

When Fraudsters are caught and their property confiscated do authorities bother to separate the assets they acquired legally and the ones they acquired illegally? In Most cases all their assets are confiscated.

When Abachas loots was taken by Govt from Swiss banks, Did they ask which part of it was his rightful income as a Military man of over 30yrs and CinC?

It is not the duty of RCCG to do forensic accounting and investigations - if the EFCC or another investigative body can establish that the monies contributed to RCCG was indeed from dishonest sources, then I'm sure the church will be willing to refund the amount if instructed to do so.

Do the church needs to be instructed, taken to court and hounded by Police before they do what is morally right?

its like saying you can steal and its not your responsibility to avoid shady acts since its the job of law enforcement to catch offenders. Where lies your honour and morals as an individual, company or church.

You can even collect money from ritual killers or "Blood diamonds" since its EFCC responsibility to investigate

Royan or ileke-idi,

Why are you always salivating ater white viscous fluid? This is getting outta hand

^^ Worry Not says Dayokanu

d first girl is pretty.
the second one. NO.

Whats No?

4llerbuntu:
somebody pls tell me we dont intend to rely on this skinny wet behind the ears players for the season, Koko wetin,. that skinny dude, light on his feet against seasoned prem strikers? shudders!!!! all these small kids?

i fear for the season!!!

No need to fear, Worst case scenario, you go trophyless like you normally do.

He who is down need fear no fall

[quote author=Aloy_Emeka link=topic=481794.msg6426506#msg6426506 date=1279735649]They are friends because he cannot make enemies due to his christian faith. They are not cool like that tho and if he doesn't befriend them, how will he draw them to Christ?[/quote]Akingbola, Obasanjo, Ibru are big time pals with Adeboye, Doesnt Adeboye go for regular morning prayers with OBJ in Aso Rock, Sevral times, OBJ has been on the pulpit ministering in Adeboyes church.

Most of them are frequent at the "breakfast with GO" where Adeboyes God drinks half of the tea

Whats the difference?

Most of them are friends with Daddy GO or is it GoDaddy?

Royannnnn