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coogar: this is a useless way of comparing managers.
villas-boas last 6 with di matteo's first six?
why not villas-boas first six games in comparison with di matteo's first six league games.

villas-boas' first 6 league games.
stoke 0-0 chelsea
chelsea 2-1 west brom
chelsea 3-1 norwich
sunderland 1-2 chelsea
man utd 3-1 chelsea
chelsea 4-1 swansea

4 wins in 6, 13 points out of 18
bring out your active brain-cells and stop arguing like a dolt!

Was it the first 6 games that made them sack AVB or the last six? DIckhead

I think you should hold nateevs your partner in daftness dicck in mouth and blow him

If George Bush was impeached for ruining the economy and Obama claimed to have revived it, How do we evaluate that Obama turned the economy around? Do you compare Obamas first 6 weeks to Bush First 6 weeks? or the fact that Obama turned the negative figures to positives?

afrodoc: LMAO.....d funny thing is i have seen very few debates on NL where one of the parties involved conceded that he/she was wrong and that the other person's superior argument had won him/her over.everybody comes with preconceived ideas and most remain dogmatic to the very end.
if somehow RDM gets results n has a good record from his first 50 matches some pple here will keep saying its due to d new manager effect /phenomenon.
dts d way of NL.

Yeah thats the way especially with Mr Nateevs who has been found out several times. i remember you even said how can a fan be praying for his own team to lose to make a point

Now its due to the new manager effect

Chelsea that drew Norwich, Swansea, lost to Everton, Napoli and West brom barely 2 months ago

has now beaten the best team in the world, beaten the same napoli won 11 points of their last 18, In the FA cup finals after smashing Tottenham and its still due to the NEW MANAGER EFFECT

I think we should archive some of nateevs statement so future generation can see how clueless a fan can be and that football Stupidity didnt start in 2078, Nateevs pioneered and patented Stoopidity way back in 2011

coogar: guardiola's tactics worked but fabregas and sanchez were poor with their finishing.
barcelona created 5 good scoring chances on a small pitch, they would tear chelsea apart in camp nou.



the rot avb left behind?
di matteo drew with fulham, lost to city and drew tottenham at home.
they beat stoke n aston villa(not top teams). we all know how they won
against wigan. so yes, di matteo hasn't been a ball of fire in the
league since he joined.



under villas-boas.

chelsea 4-1 swansea
chelsea 3-1 norwich
chelsea 2-1 man city(di matteo lost to city).

it's swings and round-about.
mind, they have not beaten barcelona yet. it's half-time
so stop your homoorgasmic rants.

Under Villa Boas from January till he was sacked can you show us the results?

Norwich 0 Chelsea 0

Swansea 1 Chelsea 1

Chelsea 3- man Utd 3

Everton 2 Chelsea 0

Chelsea 3 Bolton 0

West Brom 1 Chelsea 0

In AVB last 6 league matches he won 1 out of 6. 6 points out of 18

In RDM first 6 league matches

Stoke 0 Chelsea 1
City 2 Chelsea 1
Chelsea 0 tottenham 0
Villa 2 chelsea 4
Chelsea 2 Wigan 1
Fulham 1 Chelsea 1

3 wins in 6, 11 points out of 18

bring out your calculators

nateevs: Id1ot! What did I call Chelsea's new manager effect? Defaulting to what works.
Exactly what RDM did tonight. . . Guess who last played Barcelona this way. Gus Hiddink. Who was he?
A mid term manager.

So where are the same fundamental problems that still persist given RDM records according to you as shown in the bolded.

RDM was able to default to what works and get results yet AVB couldnt default to what works even in the face of imminent sack

The same team that couldnt win Swansea, Norwich etc in january has now beaten Barcelona, Napoli, Smashed Tottenham after the sack of Rookie

coogar: dayokanu, stop scraping the barrel.
chelsea's tactics in europe is quite different to their tactics in the league(same as liverpool).
they have given up winning the league and they have concentrated on cup competitions to salvage
some pride.

their performance in the league is dross - you cannot argue with that.
they are 6th as we speak for feck's sake but then that's football.
united/man city concentrated on the league and sacrificed cup competitions
every club with different mentality. if chelsea had been playing like they did
tonight since roberto di matteo took over, chelsea would be on top of the table.

Their performance in the league is dross? interesting can you give us their stats in the last games since RDM took over in the league? And lets see how drossy they are

Their position ATM is because of the rot AVB left behind

nateevs: The part in bold means exactly what it means. . The manager effect.
Very different from "New Manager Luck" . .

Your dumb ass asked me the same question some days ago.
I responded and till date you haven't answered my question.

You must be a nincompoop for coming up with that defence. New managers effect is what is making Chelsea to beat barcelona? New manager effect is whats making the same squad go 11-1-1 since RDM appointment?

nateevs: When I was ranting on about our loss to City, dudes with agenda called me names. Saying I was looking issues where there wasn't one. When people like us are seeing beyond the surface, others are calling for managers to be fired. Had AVB still been manager, I cannot tell u how this place will be filled posts about how crap the manager isafter the last 3 games.

Where are the impostors like afrodoc now? Trying to tell me how different Chelsea have been.[size=18pt] When you try to explain the new manager effect, they can't see it. They say it's not the players. Minus 3 dubious goals in a row and we've lost 4pts. The same fundamental problems persist. [/size]

So Mr Nateevs what does the part in bold mean?

LOL

I think now would be an appropriate time to measure AVB vs RDM

Yet Knobheads like Nateevs still think its "New managers luck"

RDM has won all 4 games in the CL till date

nateevs: Oya you win.
Please let me celebrate this win.
Go siddon!

Don't only celebrate, take time to watch the game replayed and analyse every of Drogbas move and effort in the game

nateevs: Of course. Highlight fans like you see the obvious.
You have to be a fish head to not acknowledge the absolute organization in defense.
Knowing when to move, when to stay and they kept the world's best player at bay.

I am not saying DD does not deserve the MOTM but "easily"?

If you are not a knobhead you would have noticed that the defence was a collective job where almost 7-8 players were defending at all time

Yet in attack Drogba was doing all by himself and even defending

Chelsea WINNNSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

Didier drogbaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

Comes the moment comes the man

King DROGBAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

Jessusss wepttttt

This is what i am talking about in 89 min Drogba was in barcas box, 15 seconds later he has in Chelseas box clearing the danger off Dani Alvez

nateevs: Ashley Cole, John Terry, Gary Cahill. You only see highlights.

I guess you are watching a different game.

Drogba alone has taken on all of Barcas defence and midfield and dominated them all game

even contributed his part to defence

Not your fault, You can hardly understand the game, Your understanding is limited to what AVB scribble down or speaks on portuguese media

Soo pathetic

Puyol is Barcas only threat at set pieces yet he still finds a way to get in headers

DROGBA is easily MOTM here

nateevs: You do not understand what you are talking about.
You are talking like a football noob.

In the plan chose to adopt, Mata will struggle.
He's not got the pace or Ramires nor the power of Drogba.

If you take off Mata and insert Iniesta or Fabregas, they won't touch the ball.

The coach deemed Mata good enough to play the game and he was disappointing SIMPLE

All those excuse dont cut.

he doesnt have the pace nor power yet the few touches he got were like that of a r@pist

A total liability all game

nateevs: You are arguing against yourself.
You are the one who comes here screaming when Lampard a goal or makes a pass.
I don't see you analyzing if he's been pants all game.

Pants all game only matters when you are arguing.

Point is Lampard has been sublime all game and for most of the season

Mata has been pants this game though he has played a lot of better games

This is probably chelseas biggest opponent all season and while Mata folded, lampard has lived up to billing

Now Mata has been removed after a dismal performance

See Drogba battling there, Hope the shekpe keeper can take notes?

nateevs: It doesn't matter how many sublime first touches Mata has made in the past, it's first class football punditry to point out this single one.
This is why Coogar argues with you.

Does it matter what you do in previous games if you are pants in the current game?

Ronaldo scored 50 goals this season, How much would that count for if he didnt score on Saturday

baggio scored countless penalties, How did that change that he missed a vital one in USA 1994?

Mata first touch of the second half in 54min and he loses possesion within 1 second with a poor control

nateevs: Obviously you've not been watching.
Lampard is more likely to touch the ball because he is playing a deeper role.

Mata up front has not had much of the ball but 3 times? . .
Come on!

How come other players even those playing upfront get more touches?

But the balls were evading Mata right?

nateevs: I am not a big fan of Lamps but he is been anything but dross.
In the game plan, I think he's doing brilliant.

That said, I do support your point.
You know Dayo is a highlight fan.
That pass,, that goal, then he comes out.

In the same post you say Lampard has been brilliant yet you agreed with his point

So the question is which of his point do you agree with?

coogar: so one lucky hoof in a game of 45 mins and lampard isn't dross? i am amazed di matteo started him
he's been dross for 40 mins before the goal!

And what happened to mata? I dont think he has touched the ball 3 times

Yet some Charlatans were telling us lampard is the problem

Did anyone see the pass from Lampard to ramirez?

Drogbaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

we dey watch oo

Op,

No worry. A time is coming when she would come running to you for help

And you know what to do then

Only Gomez and Messi seemed to be capable of replicating their domestic form in the CL

Even van Persie cant do same