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Katsumoto: Did I mention Italy in my post? I don't like all over the place type arguments. I prefer specifics. The fact is that non-ethnic german players are representing Germany.

Is Welbeck an ethnic English, Is Sterling, Defoe Walker etc Ethnic English

You are the one arguing all over the place

[size=14pt]Give us a criteria to know and identify Germans and lets apply it to English as well[/size]

Katsumoto: You are mentioning players who have always identified with England. Apart from Sterling, can you tell us where the other black players are from without checking google.

We know Gomez is Spanish. Ozil, Gundogan, Khedira are all turks. Podolski and Klose are Polish

Gomez Mother is German and he was borh in Germany and have always identified with germany

Ozil, Khedira Gundigan were all born in Germany and have always identified with Germany

Katsumoto: A nation so great would not need to poach players to strengthen itself. I still agree that Germany is better than England but make we hear word jo.

And how did Germany poach players? All these players were born in Germany grew up in Germany and can contest for presidency of germany

Tell us how a great italy needed to poach Ballotelli, Ogbonna, Camoranesi etc

Katsumoto: England has more English born players than Germany has german born players. Its not like I even stated that England was better than Germany.

mention the Non Germany born players and lets start from there

Lets know which of the German player wasnt either born in Germany or born to German parents

Katsumoto: Rickie Lambert is England's best striker! ! !

Did Germany not poach strikers from Poland and Spain? Is Germany not like France now? Where are Boateng, Gomez, Podolski, Gundogan, etc from?

A nation so great would not need to poach players to strengthen itself. I still agree that Germany is better than England but make we hear word jo.

Really Katsumoto, Dont thread into territory you know nothing about before you get undressed

Now that you have. Tell me how Boateng is less German than Campbell is ENglish

Tell me how Khedira is less German than Rio is English

Is Podolski less German than Welbeck English

Is Gundogan less German than Micah Richards English

Is Klose less German than Jaglieka English

Or Ross barkley, or Raheem Sterling or Jermain Defoe or Danny Sturridge or Kyle Walker etc

El Guapo: [color=#0066ff]Oga take am easy abeg

Campbell ko Efe Sodje ni.

You can actually trend fine in the reasoning that Neville is better than Lahm [which i doubt] but to go all out with Sol Campbell? - Nawao!

I'm enjoying this afternoon, Coogar really giving me a reason to crack up few sniggers with his ludicrous comparisons.

Van Gaal is a more polished gaffer than Loew but for the rest of the comparisons, i'd rather watch Cartoon network [/color]

GustavoFring: Vorm collected 4 in 90 from manure this season.

I'm surprised at your comparison of the walking red cards that are Messrs De Jong and Van Bommel to the intelligent Bastian and Khedira. Shocked in fact considering your knowledge of footy.

Thats why I told him he has a career in comedy

coogar: who cares? was neville in the squad that won the CL in 07/08? yes, he was!!!

He was there for decoration, A Player who played an incredible 11 minutes all season was in the squad. And we can see how his 11 minutes won the trophy for the team

he's not even rated here to be honest, he impregnated 7 goals the last time he faced a very weak united side. 7 goals in 180 mins?

To compare with De Gea who conceded 6 goals in 90mins to City evrybody biatch in Europe or to Joke Hart who isnt any better than Ambrose vanzekin

coogar: we are talking about their respective peaks - ashley cole has waned over the years. we are talking of cole betwen 2004 & 2010.

And what did Ashley Cole achieve at his peak other than being embarassed everytime he meets a half decent winger

all the countries i listed earlier had a better defensive unit than germany but germany have a better team overall. it's like spain - they have a weak defence unit but it gets papered over by their excellent midfield & attack!!!

And mention the players who constitute these defensive unit and how they are better than Lahm-Hummels-Boateng-Schmelzer. We are waiting ..

they have a more balanced team than you lots.

van persie > gomez/muller
sneijder > goetze
robben > podolski
van der vaart = ozil.
de jong/van bommel > bastian/khedira.
their defence unit > germany's defence unit.
vorm/stelekenburg/krul > neuer & co.

even van gaal > joachim löw!

They are more balanced yet they have always have their asses handed over to them most times. Including the last Euros. Tell us the last time Holland beat Germany in Senior team football

Katsumoto: i am not stating that England is a great footballing nation but even nations that aren't great at football produce great players. For instance Weah, Giggs, Best.

And I don't rate Hart as well.

Your comparisons are illogical because you use team success to judge individuals. If you take Germany side by side with England, they are not mates. Germany is much better but that doesn't mean all German players are better than all English players. There are England players who are good enough that they would have played for Germany if they were German.

Isnt it the players that make a team or its just the flag that they call a team?

In this current generation Maybe only 1 or 2 English players would make a german 23. England whose best striker is Rickie Lambert. and Peter Crouch led the attack to a world cup

I'll be damned

Someone says anti English bias. In my adult life England has missed 2 major International tournament because they couldnt qualify.

In my dads adult life he couldnt tell me the last time that happened to Germany

Since Barack Obama has been conscious of his environment and off diapers he has never seen England lift a major tournament and He is currently full of grey hairs yet someone had the nerve to mention England and Germany in the same sentence discussing football

Katsumoto: How is that a fact? How do you quantify and qualify this fact? Abeg leave this illogical greatness to the side.

I repeat, Lahm doesnt come to mind when discussing great defenders.

Lahm doesnt come to mind, But Campbell and Rio Ferdinand (Yakubus Biatch) comes to mind.

I wonder what other things come to your mind aside nakedd women and raunchy parties

Katsumoto: You take your anti-english bias too far. Who turned Campbell and when was he turned? Just admit that you don't really watch the premiership.

Lahm makes team of the tournament because he has been a consistent member of a consistent team. Perhaps his consistency gives him a good shout for one of the best full-backs in the last decade. But he hasn't been above other stand-out performers by a long shot.

Lahm has been consistently above every other full back in the last decade. Tell us Who are the other contenders we can consider and show us their achievements. Lahm is the Leader of the team both the National Team and the club.

He has been world class for almost the last 8yrs

Theres no anti English bias Its just telling it the way it is. England is a poor country in football simple. Its no coincidence that theyve not made a major semi finals for 17yrs now. If I tell you Joe Hart is a 3rd rate keeper you would say I have anti English bias. or wasnt this the same England that was molested by a bunch of German kids last world cup? Most of those who played the game for Germany were under 24yr at that time and had less than 10 caps before the competition.

The last world cup England was struggling to qualify in a group of USA, Algeria and Slovenia and you tell us about anti English bias. The only decent team they played brutally mauled them

Most english players would make the bench for other major footballing nation. Thats the fact.

coogar: lahm has 5 bundesliga, neville has 8 league titles. lahm has one champions league title, neville had 2. i won't even compare other domestic competitons for their respective clubs. one has to be a compound fool to rate lahm over neville..

neville has 2 CL interesting, tell us how many minutes he played in the 2007/2008 season when Manure won the CL

We are waiting

neuer?
i wish that imposter had moved to the premier league instead of the bundesliga where his only threat is lewandowski. the same neuer that conceded 7 goals to united in 2011? he's so shyte, anderson scored twice against him

Why would Neuer move to the EPL to start with? To compete with Joke Hart or De Gea or Sczezny or who?

coogar: you are a tool....
so lahm took the ball off jesus navas & gael clichy & that is his credentials that he's better than ashley cole? sometimes, i think you have a plastic dïck permanently attached to your rectum.

isn't this the same lahm nani destroyed some seasons ago. i'm talking mortal destruction & not some flukey drives. nani destroyed lahm in munich & old trafford. that was the first time nani ever scored 2 goals in his united career & he was up playing against lahm.

Is this the same Ashley Cole thats everyones bitch even ordinary Aaron lennon? Aaron lennon thats no better than Pius Ikedia.

He went to 2 tournament as a LB he made team of the tourney, He went to two as a TB he made team of the tourney. Its only a gorrila that would even mention Lahm in the same sentence witn any of those tools

If Lahm was English, He would be the prime Minister.

england, spain, italy, france, holland, etc. germany's strength have always & would always be in the midfield. isn't that the reason balotelli(a man city bench-warmer) destroyed germany about 12 months ago?

Now go ahead and name the back 4 for these countries and compare them with Lahm-Hummels-Boateng-Schmelzer.

About 12 months ago where was England, Holland and France back 4?

senegal once beat france in the group state of a world cup. by your below average deductive reasoning, senegal is greater than france?

Maye you should tell us the last time Holland beat Germany at Senior team competition. Holland ko Hollandis ni

Katsumoto: IN MY OPINION - Campbell and Ferdinand are better than Lahm. Lahm is good going forward but is not that great defending. I wouldn't put him the class of the best full backs ever. Between the years 1998 and 2005, you will struggle to find up to 3 better than Campbell. Ferdinand has been at utd for more than a decade.

Lahm is the best Full Back in the last decade no argument about that.

There is a reason he makes team of the tournament every gaddem time

Abeg which Campbell is that? I hope thats not stiff Sol Campbel that gets turned in and out for the fun of it?

coogar: the same treble-winner? the same diminutive neville that made beckham a demi-god in england? 400 caps for united, about 80+ for england. i don't want to mention the number of his league titles & other honours....
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Lahm is currently 29yrs, he is a treble winner, He has over 400 caps in the Bundesliga and 99 for Germany

5 Bundesliga, 1 Champions league one super cup and 4 nominations for Team of the Tournament at National Team competitions.

One has to be extremely retardded to compare lahm to Neville

compare him to de gea, mignolet, boruc, stelekenburg, courtois, vorm, etc. neuer is typically a valdez. a very average goalie behind a powerful team

Neuer to Cortoius, De Gea, Vorm and Mignolet? If there was any doubt about your insanity this removes all doubt

Take out Gomez and move Muller to the top with Kroos in the midfield

coogar: neuer is the shittiest goalie in western europe....

And you think anyone takes your opinion seriously. You should sit side by side with Ali Baba and Basket mouth

lahm is not better than ashley cole - he's just lucky to be born a german. if lahm was english, he couldn't have given more than ashley has offered england.

LOL. Only a loon would put Lahm and Ashley on the same level. Ashley Cole is inferior to Alaba never mind Phillip Lahm

2 weeks ago Lahm sodomising EPLs finest

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lahm & hummels? very strong!!! however, you need more than 2 pieces to form a defensive unit. boateng is the same as matt upson & ryan shawcross is better than schmelzer.

Mention how many countries have a better defensive back 4 than Germany. Boateng is currently better than any English CB and thats not even up for debate.

you are a lunatic! if the sneijder team that destroyed brazil in the last world cup had faced germany, nazism would have been brought back to europe. robben would have made a minced-meat out of lahm or any zombie tasked to mark him.

These tales of If my granny had a peenis he would have been my grandpa.

DIdnt Germany and Holland play at the Last Euros what was the result?

Germany topped the group and Holland was last after being sodomised by Germany

The fastest player is Pierre Emeric Aubameyang of Dortmund

nitlad: www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/24517480

Shame nor gree make dem fit disclose the worth of the trumpery deal.

Some people have mastered the art of keeping their lips closed and only opening it when necessary. A virtue others are still struggling to understand

Nothing person no go read on this pages

Neuer a shyte keeper? How many keepers are better than Neuer in the whole world. If Neuer is shyte I wonder what anyone would call the English number 1

Germany has no good defender? Lahm is better than Any English defender in the last century.

A team that has Lahm, Boateng and Hummels. Add Schmelzer to it you have 4 defenders who played the last CL finals

Only a clown would believe Netherlands would beat Germany

The bald headed gorimapa Barcelona fan called Krayola is back

Welcome back. Bayern is the shitznitz

Enjoy some Marco Reus of Dortmund wonder below

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/watch-borussia-dortmunds-marco-reus-2357051

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bukatyne: @OP:

Should a parent stay at home or should a mother stay at home?

Two different questions

I support the father staying at home with the kids while the mother brings home the bacon

Anyone to support me?

^^ Tiki taka is predictable everyone knows Spain would play the same way but how many people have been able to stop them from winning

shymexx: I was about to say the same thing. When he isn't cooking up baseless and redundant conjectures to attack Lagos and everything Yoruba, he's on the other side cooking up conjectures to defend the indefensible, when it comes to Igbo administrators and GEJ. Did you see the thread about the aviation minister and his back and forth with Omo_Tier1, on Saturday? I laughed like a hyena while reading the posts on that thread.

The only thing detribalised about him is that he named himself after Manny Pacquaio - so he might be a Filipino, who knows?

The poster might have been new

No one would call Manny Obiorah detribalised. He is as tribal as chino

El Guapo: [color=#0066ff]Tiki-taka is never predictable.

You'd be doing urself some good by packing the bus.[/color]

Whats not predictable about it. Before the tournament everyone knows Spain would play a dozen passes in your half before shooting at goal

And they have won tournament after tournament using the same tactics

El Guapo: [color=#0066ff]You keep possesion? Fine! But thats not Bayern's identity, Robben and Ribery bombarding forward Is your identity.[/color]

You fail to realize Bayern has several tricks in their ammunition to hurt opponent.

We can be a possesion team as well as a counter attacking team

For most of last yrs Campaign, Robben didnt play for Bayern until Kroos got injured vs Juve

Spain is predictable with their tiki taka yet have won the last 3 major tournaments