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Lemme break it down: in the 2010/11 season- ronaldo 53 goals, messi 53 goals(including 3 supercup goals). In the 2011/12 season- ronaldo 60 goals(including 1 supercup goal), messi 72 goals(including 3 supercup goals). 2012/2013 season- ronaldo 55 goals(including 2 super cup goals), messi 60 goals(including 2 super cup goals). NB- even a cave man remembers that season messi made that history with 72 goals becos his 3 super cup goals were counted, ronaldo 60 goals becos his 1 supercup goal was counted. Also who doesn't know messi scored 60 goals and ronaldo 55 goals just last season because both their super cup goals were added. Yet that son of a bl00dy liar A 40 keeps lying and lyyyyyiiing shamelessly.

[quote author=barack_o_handso]Ok, the supercup is a trophy, but its not a MAJOR one, thats it. A club like Real Madrid and a manager like Mourinho will consider last season trophyless because its the trophy with the least value, but if they had won the league and copa del rey along with it, then they'll consider their trophies as a treble. A club like Osasuna or Celta Vigo for instance will consider it a big deal because they aren't used to winning trophies. So, literally, Real Madrid & Manchester City won a trophy (Supercup & Community shield) last season, but technically, they went trophyless. CR7 scored 55 goals last season, including the 2 goals he scored against Barca in the Supercup.

How else do you think Messi's 91 calender year goals were counted last year if goals from the Spanish Supercup, UEFA Supercup & FIFA club world cup goals weren't added?[/quote]thank u my brother, I just don't know how someone can be lieing in broad day light like that!

[quote author=A-40]Shut up you puta! Whoredom runs in your lineage! Before we know am now you go count goals wey dem score for preseason join

When you tell us whether Mourinho finished trophyless or not last season then maybe I can get to answering your ret@rded questions! Bilewu[/quote]name calling as usual. Now I have to type with my bible in my left hand. Iam tryna find out which of adam's and eve's descendants was so idiotic so I know exactly where you came from. Not to worry I will find it.

[quote author=A-40]Shut up you puta! Whoredom runs in your lineage! Before we know am now you go count goals wey dem score for preseason join

When you tell us whether Mourinho finished trophyless or not last season then maybe I can get to answering your ret@rded questions! Bilewu[/quote]mourinho would tell you he didn't finish trophyless. Real madrid fanas would tell you they didn't finish trophyless, they won the spanish super cup. What haas that got to do with anything. Is the spanish super cup a friendly? David moyes juast won his first trophy for man u. You are a f00000000000000l. How did ronaldo score 1 super cup goal in a fixture between barca and sevilla? How did ronaldo end up with 55 goals last season if the supercup iasnt included? Answer the questions!

[quote author=A-40]Ronaldo scored 53 goals last season and not 55 I never said he scored 55 you ignorant hippie! That stat did not originate from me

2. Super cup goals don't count desperado but that's besides the point as anybody seeing my post would know I was not referring to the Sevilla game except a down syndrome patient like you

Now answer my own questions and tell me when Koller played for Portugal it would also be nice to know how Portugal with only 5 WC appearances are a footballing superpower!
While you are at it explain how tournaments played predominantly by amateur/semi pros are major and why the greatest player/striker to kick a ball can only score 3 goals in 4 major tournaments he's played in




It relates you ret@rd! That is why no one says Bayern won a quadruple but rather a treble! That is why the general consensus is that Man City finished trophyless! This is not an either or situation you cannot mock Mourinho for finishing trophyless and yet count goals from a tournament that he won! Same way goals scored in a world cup qualifier would not count towards the goals scored in the world cup proper! You would have to be a simple minded schmuck not to understand something so basic[/quote]koller played for czech not portugal. I admitted that much but you still looking for the cheap shot like some slut. Koller or no koller, doesn't relate to this argument.u are trying to run back to the olympis trophy argument. No way. But of course the 55 goals stat for ronaldo didn't come from you. Just go to wikipedia or go to goal.com or go to marca.com or use google and search for cristiano ronaldo goals or go to the real madrid website. 55 goals in all competitions including 2 supercup goals. I ask you again how did ronaldo score 1 super cup goal in 2010 to make his goals 54 when it was barcelona versus sevilla? Answer the question. You talk here you talk there. If you be woman you for be better ashaw0 o. Answer the damn question.

[quote author=A-40]Did Mourinho finish trophyless last season or not? Answer that question honestly


You are a dunce! Supercup goals don't count if they did no one would say Mourinho or Man City finished trophyless! Its your dishonest nature that makes you count goals from a tournament for your player when they win it but discount it when your rival manager wins it and tag them trophyless

Nobody counts goals scored in the supercup mate! Quit clutching straws![/quote]don't duck my questions. 1. If super cup goals don't count, then How did ronaldo get 55 goals last seaason? 2. How did ronaldo score a super cup goal in the 10/11 season to make 54 when the contest was between barcelona and sevilla? Don't duck! Answer!

[quote author=A-40]Did Mourinho finish trophyless last season or not? Answer that question honestly


You are a dunce! Supercup goals don't count if they did no one would say Mourinho or Man City finished trophyless! Its your dishonest nature that makes you count goals from a tournament for your player when they win it but discount it when your rival manager wins it and tag them trophyless

Nobody counts goals scored in the supercup mate! Quit clutching straws![/quote]how do you keep on bringing up analogies that don't make any sense? How does this relate to mancity or madrid or mourinho being trophyless. No one will say! Your arguement is now based on 'no one will say'! Some people consider the supercup a trophy, some don't. For those that don't its simply becauase it's a one off game. If the super cup involved say; 5 or more games, then they'd take it as a trophy. Now how does that corelate to the goals scored. A goal is scored game by game. U don't have to pile up goalas for them to be counted! You are still more foolish than I thought. A fool would be a genius in your presence.

[quote author=A-40]Wrong!! Nobody adds those goals unless out of desperation


These matches are ceremonial! Whether the team goes on to add another trophy or not there are no ifs buts and maybes involved Madrid,Man City finished trophyless last season

The trophies don't count so why should the goals count?


I posted accurate stats from ESPN! If you are going to count the 3 goals from the Supercup to add to Messi's 50 in the 10/11 season you have to also count the 1 goal Ronaldo scored to his 53 which means Ronaldo still wins 54-53[/quote]I just gave you the stat of ronaldo's 55 goals last season including 2 supercup goals and you still arguing? I have to leave u alone now. And btw,u said ronaldo's 1 goal? Hahahahahahaha. The spanish super cup was contested for between barcelona and sevilla in the 2010/11 season. And ronaldo scored 1 goal? Maybe he was playing for sevilla then! You one funny asz muthafvcker! This is the height of it all, at this point I have to sign out of this debate. Everybody there you have it, ronaldo got 1 supercup goal for sevilla august 2010. Lol. So long people.

[quote author=barack_o_handso]Like I said, they're season openers, not friendly matches but at the same time not totally invaluable, they become invaluable if the team that wins it doesn't add any other trophy, that's why real madrid/manchester city & manchester united were judged to have gone trophyless last season & two seasons respectively.

As for the ronaldo-messi saga, whether CR7 scored an extra goal or not, I'm not sure, but news was that they were tied on the same number of goals. If CR7 won the golden boot that year, it was probably because he got to those figures first as Messi played & had to score his 53rd goal in the UCL final against ManUtd.[/quote]@ barack, the european golden shoe is given for league goals only. In 10/11 ronaldo had 40 la liga goals while messi had 31 la liga goals, and both had 53 in all competitions. Since ronaldo got 40 league goals and no other player in europe(england,italy,germany,france, turkey,russia,etc etc) got up to 40, ronaldo won the european golden shoe. So it was not because ronaldo got to 53 firstly but because only league goals are considered across all european countries for the european golden shoe.

[quote author=A-40]Is that what you were sodomized with? Or is that what your puta mama uses to get off with when your poppa's willie aint up to the task? Nkita ara


Supercup goals don't count you !mbecile! If they did Mourinho's last season would not be remembered as a trophyless one! You can't have one without the other and FYI Ronaldo scored a goal in the meaningless fixture as well so that puts him at 54! Either way I have proven to all and sundry that you are an inbred nitwit


For a player from Portugal getting to the semi-final or Final of a major tournament is as good as it gets! This is a country that has only featured in 5 world cups I'm sure you also expect Denmark to win the next World Cup! If you cannot understand this simple fact then you should do the honorable thing and refund your parents every penny they squandered on your education but wait hold that thought! Since they used your intelligence for money rituals I guess yall are even

Bonfrere Jo and Jose Manuel De La Torre are also great managers since they also won the olympics! Rupaul nigga like you[/quote]on record ronaldo had 55 goals last season including 2 supercup goals. La liga 34, uefa 12, copa del rey 7, super cup 2. A 4 paper pls help urself. The world is reading. Swallow ur pride. Pull your skirt up b1tch. Another 1mbecilic analogy. Tell your spouse to win a tea spoon for his nation.

[quote author=A-40]So I made an error! Touche! I own it! Cos that's what men do. Now tell us you son of a puta tell us how Koller put Portugal on the football map also tell us how Portugal a nation that has only qualified for 5 World Cups is a football superpower

Goals scored in the super cup don't count Nkita ara! How many times do I have to tell this bush pig a simple fact like this! This is as idiotic as adding the goals RVP scored yesterday to his total number at the end of next season

10/11
Messi
La Liga: 31
Champions League: 12
Copa Del Rey: 7
Total: 50

Ronaldo
La Liga: 40
Champions League: 6
Copa Del Rey: 7
Total: 53

Where did 53 now come from?


Will you STFU you douche! Nobody gives a damn about Olympics or Junior World Cups definitely not a football powerhouse like Argentina! These are developmental tournaments contested by amateur/semi professional tournaments until recently so you would have to be an uncommon mor0n to claim tournaments like this even count when measuring greatness


Its a disgrace that the best player in the history of mankind has only scored 3 goals in 4 major tournaments! Only a ret@rd can label such player as the Greatest Of All Time without acknowledging that he has to at least perform for Argentina.

Sadly for you Ronaldo's records clearly show that on the International stage he has owned Messi! As his teams have advanced further and he has scored more goals.


This abirun keeps referring to junior tournaments as evidence of achievement! What a disgrace! I'm sure when you go to your next job interview you would take along your Primary School Certificate. Maricon![/quote]like I said b4, fvck you with a broom stick, nothing more. Yes I said koller played for portugal, was a slip of tongue. I won't be like you , for the 3rd day running you still dispaying ur ignorant gene. Pull your skirt up b1tch! Super cup goals don't count? Says who? A competitive fixture player 2 weeks into the season doesn't count? I know uve realised your stupidity. Now ure trying to do a cover up. Ask your grandmother or go to the bayern fansa thread. Messi and ronaldo both scored 53. Iam tired of trying to save you from yourself. Stop embarassing urself. So what happens to the supercup goals? Are they thrown away? Why are you still allowing ur shadow to possess your brain? Collect ur brain mayne!ronaldo's record on international stage? Msc holder in foolery. Yes ronaldo's records for country are so big and numerous. But what? They just don't exist! Now the toad is likening the olympic gold to a primary school cert! That is the 3rd biggest honour any footballer can win for country! Ronaldo your boyfriend should show us his spoon for portugal.if the olympic is pri sch cert, then by ur analogy ronaldo didn't even attend primary school. A 4 paper, pull your skirt up b1tch! We all straight around here dogg!

That ignoramus A40 been trying to convince the world for 2 days now that ronaldo outscored messi in 10/11 season. He doesn't even know how the european golden shoe is awarded! Was taught never to argue ith a f00l. Like they taught me people commenting here now can't tell who is who. Iam am definitely part of the problem, in 2013, arguing messi versus ronaldo! Goal or trophies! Club or country! My bad! My bad!!

[quote author=A-40]Insults are not enough for you oye kan gba oju e! Cos that's what woulda been your fate in real life! You pasted a stats that was inaccurate then phoolishly asked me to start counting when and in which competition these goals were scored? Do you suffer Alzheimer's or did you not know the 55 goals originated from you in the first place?

You are too big alright. . Too big of a phool to own up to your own errors! Smell you later


What a pity! Its obvious your parents have used your intelligence for money rituals. I was told the only way to break the hex on you is to butcher them and melt their parts in a tub filled with sulphuric acid

I ask you again since Messi and Ronaldo scored the same number of goals that year why didn't they award the Golden Shoe to both of them? That is the question you and your partner in tomfoolery have been unable to answer

Suited me? If I'm guilty of anything its underestimating the depths of your dumbness! You and your bestial twin posted those stats its on yall to defend it not me


The stats are there for all of mankind to see
8 goals is greater than 3 on any part of this planet unless we want to add illiteracy to your many handicaps

You are a billionare in phoolishness already nobody can steal your endless riches in that department



This ret@rd is beyond redemption! Your parents no try for you! You are so basic you do not even realize your arguments are being used against you

You must have been born out of legitimacy! It would be a darn shame if people actually rejoiced at your birth! Your continued existence is a shyte-brick in the cathedral of mankind


I'm sure you would happily let Messi r@pe your wife and sodomize your kids since he can do no wrong in your eyes! Ewu!

@kolamilan
Bruv no vex but someone needs to school these suckas[/quote]funny this guy thinks he's schooling anybody. He doesn't even know that the european shoe is given for only league goals and not cup goals or champions league goals. That's how ronaldo won it. La liga goals only. But overall they got 53 each your nvmb nut. You really do have a knack for being stvpid. This must be a generational problem. Don't body yourself you aint schooling nobody. Good thing you agree that at club level messi eats your boyfriend for breakfast for lunch and for dinner. At international level messi has won the third biggest honour you can win for your country-the olympic gold. He has won the fourth biggest honour a player can win for country-the junior world cup. Yet mr stvpidity here keeps telling us how his boyfriend scored 8, 9 ,10 goals for portugal without winning a tea spoon for portugal and so ronaldo performs for his country and messi doesn't. His point-a player has scored 8 goals and another just 3,so that's solely his criteria for judging who has performed better. My point-a player has won honours for his country while the other hasn't won a thing, that's my criteria. Lol. You are a f00l's f00l. A f00l would feel so much better beside you.Ronaldo would be flattered to reach messi's achievement for country. Ask him that during your next intercourse. He would open up to you on anything in a time of intimacy. But for now I gotta say fvck you with a broomstick.

[quote author=A-40]You make a good point! Let me leave room for others to unearth their infinite phoolishness[/quote]say zidane didn't play for france but for algeria and ended up winning nothing for country would that remove from the great player he was? Say messi nationalised for spain like they wanted to make him do and he won the world cup and euros, would that add to the great player he is? Think about that and while you're at it go ask your old man if stvpidity was in the food menu while u were growing up and if it was a buffet.

[quote author=A-40]Loooool I brought stats from ESPN soccernet this tumfulu brought stats from messivsronaldo.net a site probably created by a halfwit like him



Koller played for Portugal? Hahahahaha

Ronaldo's contribution for Portugal dwarfs Messi's for Argentina that's all I'm saying


I never said Ronaldo is better than Messi you phool! Go through all my posts! I brought the comparison to show that Messi can never be the greatest if he doesn't perform for Argentina a feat even Ronaldo had accomplished

Shut up you unrepentant w@nker! You think everyone is s€xx starved like you?


If you have any shame you would refund every cent to whoever sponsored your education! The 55 goals Ronaldo scored emanated from you and your gang of ret@rds! If it is inaccurate then we can add that to your lengthy list of gaffes

Now tell us if Messi scored the same number of goals Ronaldo did in 10/11 then why didn't he share the European Golden Shoe with Ronaldo? You are the biggest idi0t in the world if you fail to do so[/quote]your research took too long I slept off. You have refused to stop advertising your stup1dity. Soon we will start billing you by the second and I be a billionaire by the break of dawn. Pls save ypurself the embarrasment ok. Messi and ronaldo were tied at 53 goals 10/11 season. The point isn't whether you brought the 55 goals issue, the point is that it's the fact and you looked the other way when I wrote it because it suited you. Ronaldo's contribution dwarfed messi's for country because a midget brain says so? argentina was a super power back then and that means it will be forever? If you are still trying to prove ronaldo has performed more for portugal than messi for argentina then the gene of ignorance must run so deep in your lineage. If I got a naira for everything stupid you said tonight I' be a billionaire already. It is better to be stvpid and be quiet and leave people doubting than talk and leave people without a doubt. U still insist your argument is that you can be the best without ascoring and yet u jump at every opportunity to say messi didn't score for argentina and that's your sole reason for calling him a flop while according to you ronaldo has achieved for portugal becos he ascored as a couple of goals. As for messi, my point is this-bring in the goals he is the best, remove the goals- he is the best. All up in your face.
You couldn't be smart for once even to save your own life. Damn you one dvmb n1gga, suicide is the only way out for you mr ronaldo's stan.

dmcdad: You have exposed yourself hook, line and sinker. Please can you give me analysis or stat or record of Ronaldo's 55 goals Name all the tournaments that he scored and how many he scored in each... And see if super cups are not among... Gradually, you are letting yourself know how ignorant you have been all these while. Thank you for bringing yourself out

Abeg count them give me I dey wait...

that's how dishonest he's been throughout this discussion. He wAs quick to count 55 goals for ronaldo and wants to remove messi's own.

This A 40 details too petty to substantiate. Ronaldo scored bla bla bla. Figo, nuno gomez, pinto, xavier, koller all put portugal on the map. For club ronaldo is a mini messi. For country messi still won more trophies while ronaldo won nothing. And you here trying to twist records. 4 ballon d'ors to only one. They no be mates at all. Even the ballon dor ronaldo won in 08 when messi had a long spell of injury. Messi can oly aspire to surpass pele and maradona while ronaldo can only aspire to be messi and you A40 can go jerk yourself off a band of barb wires.

[quote author=A-40]So that means Messi should win the award every year even in years he was outperformed or didn't perform for his team in any major tournament just because he is Messi like 2010 and potentially this year


Even Messi knows he has to perform in major tournaments for his country to be labeled as the Greatest which is what I have been trying to explain to a rectum enthusiast like yourself unfortunately your head is so far up his that you can probably tell what he had for lunch

Hehehe hypocrite! Go through your posts addressed to me and show where you didn't insult or imply disrespect? Disrespect begets disrespect bruh


He has 8 goals in 5 tournaments! 2 semis and 1 Final! You must be dumber than I thought if you expect a football minnow like Portugal to win the World Cup or Euros a competition they struggled to even qualify for before Ronaldo showed up

While Messi with a heavyweight Argentina (2 time WC winners 2 time finalists) cannot do zilch

Going by your idiotic logic we can also ask Messi go to England and see how well he fares! I'm not even one of those that say he has to leave Barca but you would be a knobhead to claim Messi can be the greatest player based on one club achievement alone! That is the sole point I've been trying to knock into your brickhead[/quote]lol. It's so evident the english man had you in mind when he coined the word '1diot'. Not to worry there is a new proposal for semi final trophy or final trophy d1ck head! U sAy messi didn't perform in any major tournament. Name the major tournaments this year. He just won la liga with a record 100 points and by a record 15 points. Oooo iam so sad at your name calling and iam sobbing right now. F00l. Yeah I dissed you. But name calling is cheap. Quit with the name calling and diss me too . You are the biggest hypocrite of all. Calling portugal a minnow? Portugal been a footballing power since euro 2000. Argentina on the other hand fell off. A super attackers nowadays. Average midfield, poor defence. But u would rather lie to yourself. Your IQ must be a midget.

[quote author=A-40]I can see I have been arguing with football ignoramuses all this time! Which club world cup did Barca play in 10/11? Hahahahahaha

Sorry to burst your bubble but they don't count goals scored in Spanish Super cup or any other super cups across Europe[/quote]you are the only person in the world who doesn't know that messi scored 53. Because speaking in stupidity terms, you are in a league of your own. They don't count super cup goals and yet you are so happy to count 55 goals for your 'partner' for last season? Why am I not surprised when you are nothing but ronaldo's 'stan'

[quote author=A-40]You are a disgraceful liar! Go through the thread again! I brought Messi's performance and Iniesta to show you how Ribery deserves the award despite not scoring as much as Messi or Ronaldo! Because scoring goals is not Ribery's brief! I used Messi so that the example would hit close to home


You are a dyslexic and ignorant coon! Ronaldo outplayed Messi in Europe and when I say Europe I expect somebody with common sense to know I'm talking about Europe's premier competition notice I didn't say Spain


Who cares? Messi was owned this season simple!


Big deal! Emmanuel Babayaro is also an olympic gold medalist
Its a disgrace that Messi fortunate to come from a footballing powerhouse like Argentina cannot perform in the big tournaments! Tournaments he must win to legitimize your claim that he is the G.O.A.T


I will take ESPN soccernet data over a halfwit like you thank you very much


In the Bayern setup Ribery also doesn't have to score as Muller,Pizarro,Mandzukic,Robben do that

Your excuse is pathetic anyway you look at it! Even Zidane was not a striker but that didn't stop him from scoring in 4 out of 5 major tournaments he played in!

I'm sure Maradona also stood between Messi and goal! What a douche![/quote]emmanuel babayaro won the olympic. Raul albiol won the world cup. Iam still trying to teach you something- you can be the best even without scoring. Btw ribery and messi, messi scores more, assists more, dribbles more, what more can I say? Stop being an embodiment of stupidity. You act like your mama gave you brains not a brain. I means that's the only way a human could be so stvpid.

[quote author=A-40]Shut your yap! What does a basic schmuck like you know about knowledge? Thank God for the internet if not where else can a premium simpleton like you be associating himself with knowledge!

We do not need Messi! We have won a treble without him,destroyed his team and played in 3 UCL Finals under his watch you can shove your Messi up your ar$e you sodomite!

The bitter truth is Messi has only delivered in Barca and for him to be labeled the greatest that is not enough! If that is too complex for you to understand then all your years in school was a waste! If you even went to one


Common denominator or not you lack common sense! I never said Ronaldo was better than Messi my point was even Ronaldo has proven himself in more than one place! and performed for Portugal too so if Messi is going to prove himself as the greatest its clear that he has to at least shine for the Albiceleste (even if he chooses to be a one club guy) that asterisk is always going to be there that he has only delivered in one club


You are a ret@rd! You can't even recognize I used your own analogies against you you uncommon phool! when I talked about Ribery being regarded as the best player at Bayern and Europe did it have to do with the number of goals he scored? So not scoring but being the best player on the pitch can only be applied when Messi is involved right?[/quote]its never solely about goals for me, neither is it solely about trophies won. All we need to do is give a football to messi, give one to ronaldo, give one to ribery, give one to every other footballer on the planet. What messi can do with a football no other player couldm. That's the reason coaches, journalist, captains will continue to give their votes to messi while you sit in your closet waiting for him to win the world cup. I see you ve resorted to taking cheap shots and calling me names! I love that. What di ronaldo perform for portugal. Stop stressing your ignorance pls. Iam already aware. Ronaldo has proved himself in every league, he comes to la liga and messi is killing him everywhere. Do I have to give you a lesson on correlation on a slate?

[quote author=A-40]How did you arrive at 53? Why would you be lying like you are being paid for it?
10/11

Messi
La Liga: 31
Champions League: 12
Copa Del Rey: 7

Ronaldo
La Liga: 40
Champions League: 6
Copa Del Rey: 7

So tell me where did the extra 3 goals come from? Afghanistan?[/quote]can't believe am hearing this in my lifetime. Even geneivive knows messi scored 53 goals in the 2010/11 season. Do your research and get back.

NB- In the argentina set up, messi doesn't have to score. That is why higuain tevez aguero are ahead of him in attack and he feeds them all day long. He is not like ronaldo whom without a goal to his name, is wAsted. It's left to demicheles and co to do their job. You aint winning no fifa world cup with banega, gago and masch in your midfied or some guy named rojo, demicheles, otamendi, old man zanetti in defence. We should have sacked henckeys and replaced him with diego maradona to win you the treble last term.

[quote author=A-40]Football is a team sport so there must be a correlation between individual and team achievements! You can't claim Messi is the best player simply because he won the freaking Golden Shoe! Thomas Muller was the highest goal scorer at the last World Cup but he was not the best player at the tournament! Same way Messi isn't the best player in Europe cos he scored the most goals and had some streak in the League! Football goes beyond just goals

The UCL is the most important trophy in Europe right? So whatever stage you are at that point of the season that is your most important game! As at the time you faced Milan that is your most important game of the season This is common sense


I meant in the Champions League!! Europe's most important tournament


Olympic gold and junior world cup? Tournaments filled with age cheats! This is pathetic!

Ronaldo has helped a soccer lightweight with negligible pedigree like Portugal to 2 semi-finals and 1 final in 5 major tournaments

While Messi cannot carry a soccer heavyweight like Argentina to the promiseland! And you have the nerve to call him the greatest what a disgrace

For Messi to prove he is the greatest the onus is on him to perform outside Barca like legends like Pele,Maradona,Ronaldo,Beckenbauer,Zidane,Ronaldinho,Van Basten etc have done for club and country


Sharrap! If he couldn't score against Nigeria how about Korea,Greece,Mexico,Germany why didn't he score against any of them?

I purposely brought up that tournament to highlight your hypocrisy since you claimed Ribery didn't score that many goals so I chose to give you an instance that Messi did likewise to show you there's more to it than just goals


What is Messi doing to help the team?
I'm sure he is helping them by not scoring!


No one is asking Messi to do it alone at least score! That is what we are saying! Its an epic disgrace that the "GREATEST" player of all-time went to two major tournaments back to back in his peak and could not score against football heavyweights like Nigeria,Greece,Korea,Bolivia,Colombia, Costa Rica[/quote]you keep talking from the 4 cardinal points of your mouth! On one hand you say football is not all about goals and on the other hand you refuse to look at messi's performance for argentina but keep saying messi didn't score here messi didn't score there! After trying to convince us that 55 is greater than 60 now you want to tell us again that uefa best player award means the champions league. like the proverbial ostrich you keep burying ur head in the sand and leaving your butthole vulnerable to attacks. U no wan let us rest say ronaldo score highest for champions league, something messi got 4 times in a row. By the way this argument is so awesome. Messi is being compared to ronaldo, muller, maradona, and all the bayern bois in one single swing. That's how good messi is. Messi is an olympic gold medalist and you are here telling me how ronaldo almost almost almost won a spoon for portugal. Pls spare me all these boring details, they so petty, I aint no seller of melon.

dmcdad: The year Ronaldo outscored Messi? It has never happened!

10/11
Ronaldo 53
Messi 53

11/12
Ronaldo 60
Messi 73

12/13
Ronaldo 55
Messi 60

Please in what season did Ronaldo outscored Messi?

I tire for the guy o! He keeps saying ronaldo outscored messi! 09/10 it was 47 to 35, 10/11 it was 53 to 53, 11/12 it was 73 to 60, 12/13 it was 60 to 55. All in favour of messi. Asee trophies won! See trophies for country! I can't understand that guy.

[quote author=A-40]Wetin we wan do with Messi when we get him medicine? Abeg talk another thing!
Ronaldo has proven himself in two leagues and every international tournament he has been in while Messi has done nada outside Barca


Lol look at Papi Aluwe sha! Whether Zidane or Ronaldo had good players behind him is hardly the point since Zidane and Ronaldo shone like a million stars and helped their team to win at all

Messi had a mediocre midfield and defense? You should be ashamed of yourself! Pastore,Di Maria,Mascherano, Demichelis,Burdisso,Heinze are mediocre?

How about their loaded attack that was guaranteed to put all teams on the backfoot

Wait first so its the defenders that prevented Messi from scoring a single goal ba? Both in 2010 and 2011


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Shame nor catch u! Maradona dragged Argentina to two world cup finals with Burruchaga and Valdano while Messi can do zilch with an even more talented squad! Cannot score against Nigeria,South Korea, Greece even went to Copa America in his homeland and cannot score against Bolivia, Costa Rica
And you are here defending nonsense

Junior World Cup and Olympic for a football superpower like Argentina is what you are clutching at? Smh even Messi is crying for you


How did he then win the Golden Shoe if he didn't score more than Messi?


If Ronaldo with 8 goals in 5 straight major tournaments is a choker what do we call Messi that has just 3 goals in 4 major tournaments and has only led a football superpower like Argentina past the quarter final once (in Copa America where football lightweights like Mexico,Costa Rica and USA are added to make up the numbers)

Its a crying shame to compare the expectations of Nigeria in International Football to Argentina just because you are trying to defend Messi[/quote]you really need to kick some knowledge. You nor sharp at all. You don ever carry first for class at all? You have no player like messi. Shut up and no excuses! Ronaldo has proved himself in 2 leagues! Only 2? What of the remaining 3 leagues? Sample space too small. If he like make him play for one million leagues, now he has come to a common denominator which is la liga and messi isa sh1ting on him season after seaason. He has not managed to outscore messi in a season, he has not managed to out assist messi, he has not managed to out 'collect awards' messi. The only thing he haas managed to out do messi is to be the footballer with the highest number of podium appearances. Yes zidane and co shone like a million stars but if the others hadn't done their jobs, their efforts would have been wasted. Messi has been shining like a hundred million stars but unfortunately u only watch highlights. Why do u keep saying messi cannot score, score score. That's the cheap card u ch0ose to play. You can be the best on a pitch without scoring, do I have to write this on a slate for u to understand? And like I said b4 a goalless messi would always attract more viewers than a million goal ronaldo! Desperation is when a human mutt tries to compare ronaldo to mesaasi in this day and time. Give it up son!

People get so petty. People need to watch games and not highlights. A typical case study is the nigeria versus argentina match world cup 2010. Messi was the boss on the pitch. Messi was the best player for 90 mins. Enyeama was made man of the match because messi should have scored 6. At the end of the day someone says he flopped becos he didn't score. Higuain scored like 5 but he wasn't half as good as messi. And someone says he flopped becos he didn't score! Argentina needs to get a good coach and stop depending on a defence made by demicheles or otamendi and a masacherano at midfield. The team must help messi. He could never do it alone. Ronaldo de lima would never have won the world cup without carlos, cafu ,kaka, ronaldinho,rivaldo, edmilson. And all of a sudden, ronaldo single handedely won the world cup for brazil! Zidane would never have won the world cup without thuram, desaily, lizarAzu, makalele, vieira, henry, and all of a sudden zidane single handedly won the world cup for france!

[quote author=A-40]Please believe it! Messi does not deserve to be the best when there is another team out there that can beat his by a combined 7 goals! Who cares if he only showed up for the first game? He might have as well not played its not like he coulda changed the outcome

Don't be basic! The Semi Final was Barca's most important game last season since Barca did not make it to the Finals! Sheesh


Only that most of these players have performed for their national teams as well! Shining in major tournaments whereas Messi cannot score to save his village outside Barcelona. Let's not also forget the significant upgrade in quality that Messi & Barcelona had compared to the era of names you listed earlier


Of course they did! And whose fault is it that Messi played less games? Leave that your story for tortoise! Ronaldo outscored him, Lewandowski outscored him as well, Muller destroyed his team and Ribery helped us to win the Final



Hahaha I didn't say Messi did not have a World Cup goal! I only referred to the two major tournaments Messi featured in when he was supposedly the best player in the World

And more hahahahaha for you! are you asking me how many major tournaments Cristiano Ronaldo has scored in? I can see your footie knowledge is limited to Messi and Barcelona! Ronaldo has scored in each and every of the last 5 major tournaments he's played in (Euro 04,WC 06,Euro 08,WC 10,Euro 12)
Ronaldo is a stand-up guy for Portugal not a serial choker like Messi is for Argentina

And what are you talking about Messi has won something for country? Semi-professional/amateur Olympic and age grade competition is what you classify as winning! You are really desperate! Desperado l'omo


No your friend claimed Messi would have scored had he been fit and I gave instances of matches he featured in and didn't do nada


He can start by at least leading his team to a World Cup Final! Even ordinary Copa America! Let him show us he is not useless outside Barca[/quote]iam playing a team sport and my team gets beat 20-0, and because of that I cannot be the best in the world! This aint tennis, your math doesn't add up! Bayern game was the most important? How? What if barca had not made that great milan comeback or if barca had beaten bayern? Would that still be the most important game? It was only the last game not the most important. Again your math doesn't add up! Ronaldo outscored messi? Ronaldo 55, messi 60, again like mr jang you are telling us 55 is greater than 60.for the umpteenth time your math doesn't add up! Ronaldo should convert his one one goals into trophies. The portugese people cannot lift goals, they need trophies to lift. Messi has given his compatriots an olympic gold and a junior world cup trophy to lift. Age grade or no age grade! World cup or no world cup, copa america or no copa america messi is top 3 greatest in history, ronaldo isn't top 20. He still has 2 world cupas and 2 copa americas to play. He will win for argentina. That coupled with one more ballon dor he would be the greatest footballer in the history of mankind. UNDISPUTED!

kolamilan: in case of wesley am not taking about his performance at inter alone but also at the world cup and am sure you know the criteria of choosing a world best the same year when a worldcup is being played.

you guys just need more information in your lives. There are no criteria. Voting is done and the winner is announced, and as the oga at the top said, daz all.

[quote author=A-40]Yes outplayed! At least Ronaldo does not go to major tournaments and choke! 9 games in major tournaments and no goal to show for it! What a phocking disgrace! and this is supposed to be the best player to ever kick a ball? I laugh in Chidi Lloyd

Hehehehe like he scored against Chelsea ba? Like he scored against Die Mannschaft? Abeg comot for here[/quote]I give you an assignment. Go to wikipedia and see how every single record in la liga belongs to messi coupled with the fact that messi is more suCcessful than ronaldo on international level. Then go to google and read robben's and ribery's comments saying they want to be like messi when they grow up. And you re here playing SAN for them.

Keep it going barak o handsome. You are so on point. This dude is a bayern fan who's so mad he's never had a footballer as good as messi.

[quote author=A-40]Yes outplayed! At least Ronaldo does not go to major tournaments and choke! 9 games in major tournaments and no goal to show for it! What a phocking disgrace! and this is supposed to be the best player to ever kick a ball? I laugh in Chidi Lloyd

Hehehehe like he scored against Chelsea ba? Like he scored against Die Mannschaft? Abeg comot for here[/quote]if you be a governor you be worse than a jonah jang like I said b4. Ronaldo ias a serial tournament choker! Messi has his olympic gold. Ronaldo has no spoon for portugal. And pls don't tell me it'as not a major tournament cus u be running around buck n.aked if your country won it.