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[quote author=A-40]Ahahahaha so you can admit that a player does not have to score 1000 goals before they can be effective! I can wager I watched more games in the World Cup and Copa America than you did! How can you even give such a smelly excuse about Argentina being a penalty away from the Final when they didn't even make the semis? They where one man down yet a Messi led team could not beat them

So if a Messi that failed in all major national tournaments be considered for awards then how much more Ribery that won all for his club?

Keep gassing yourself Messi can never be the greatest till he wins trophies for his country! There is no all-time great that has not led his country to at least a World Cup final especially someone like Messi who is fortunate to have been born in a footballing superpower like Argentina



Lool you are a comedian! That Messi is able to score so many goals is a testament to how badly Barca has fallen! No options in attack! Dey there dey deceive yourself! You have been disgraced by your rivals over the last couple of seasons and suprise suprise its coincided with Messi's most prolific seasons that should tell you something

We don't need your Messi biko keep him! The same Messi wey chop 7-0 and wey also chop 4-0 when him face Mannschaft. Messi's lord and master Bastian Schweinsteiger is already at Bayern


We are talking about last season abeg


No mind them the year Ronaldo outscored Messi they said Messi won more titles. 11/12 season Ronaldo won the more important title but they said Messi scored more goals! The bias is infinite

Iniesta won the same award last season with less than 10 goals I didn't see Barca fans crying about Messi deserving the award[/quote]a goal less messi is more effective than a one million goal ronaldo. Ribery doesn't and can never come close. Bayern munich does not have a player close to being as good as messi. Why not humble yourself and live with this fact? Zidane would never have won the world cup without the makaleles, the thurams, the deschamps, the leobofs, the lizarazus,of this world, ronaldo would never without the carloses, the cafus, the lucios,the ronaldinhos etc of this world. Messi hasa a mediocre midfield and a deicheles anchored defence. With this present squad argentina would never wint the world cup. One man never wins a world cup. Messi has his olympic gold and his junior world cup. He doesn't have to win the world cup he is already arguably the greatest of all time. That's why he's so good. He breaks norms. And when the he1l did ronaldo outscore messi? It has never happened. When? In 10/11 they both had 53 goals. In 11/12 messi had 72 ronald 60. Why do you lie to yourself like you're jonah jang?

Outplayed by ronaldo? Ronaldo could never outplay messi in football. Ever since he got to la liga he's been dying in messi's shadow. As for ribery muller lewa, I can only say laughable. A goal against every league opponent including 3 against madrid. Goals against milan, moscow. If he was fit he must score bayern like he proved when he was fit 4 years ago.

[quote author=A-40]All this is tales by moonlight without trophies to show for it![/quote]17 trophies in 6 seasons- by messi goals.

[quote author=A-40]Awe gbagbe! Barca has dropped down a few notches since 2011! I can confidently say that over the last two seasons it has been a very one-dimensional team

Everything at Barca revolves round Messi which is why we can see considerable dropoffs in any major tournament that is also why Messi can go to a world cup and not score a single goal for the Albiceleste and also flop at the Copa America in his own homeland

At Bayern Mandzukic or Gomez would not score 100 goals because guys like Robben,Muller,Schweinsteiger,Kroos,Shaqiri,Ribery,Pizarro would also chip in their fair share

Bayern had 6 players that scored in double digits in all competitions last season! 9 that scored at least 8 goals! Can we say the same for Barca?

We realized the one player scoring 40+ goals per season thing is not the formula for success (look up Gomez) we finished trophyless with a one man offense

What is the use of scoring 50 goals with no trophy to show for it? Football is a team sport first and foremost all individual accolades has to tie to some form of team achievement[/quote]it's either u didn't wAtch the world cup and the copa or u are deliberately being mischievous. In those 2 tournaments messi was the best player argentina had. A carlos tevez penalty stood between argentina and the copa final but he blew it. And as alwAys, the greatest player in history took the blame. Higuain scored All the goals in the world cup but higuain was not half as good as messi in south africa. Everything good thing argentina did in the world cup cAme tru messi and here u are calling him a flop.u didn't watch the world cup you only saw the goal highlights.if messi played in that bayern attack, none will get those double digits and will be the top assist provider. Bayern has no player like messi so give him more props. Messi is the player all your bayern bois want to be like when they grow up. 50 goals without trophies? This guy is ridiculous. His goals have given his club at least 16 trophies since his 4-0 one night stAnd with your bayern munich.

kolamilan: If that is the case in what you are saying, why didn't Wesley Sneijder win it in 2010 he was the main man at inter when they won the the treble and he dragged Holland to the World Cup final but yet Messi won it that year, don't get me wrong messi is a unbelievable player but seems FIFA change the
rules year in year out to suit the little man??

why can't guys be real? Fifa does not give these awards, its a democratic process, even yobo and keshi are entitled to their votes. Messi won at leAst 5 best player awards last year independent of fifa but like they always do, they still come out shouting fifa fifa fifa. O my!

kolamilan: you are wrong, it should be robben, ribery, and lewy.

dude are you for real? I guess because he has been graBbing all the ballon d'ors and other individual awards he should be ignored right? This award is for all players playing in all the leagues in europe. A player who won the pichichi with 46 goals, won the european golden shoe with 60 goals, did what had never been done in the history of european football- scored consecutively against all league opponents, led his team to the championsa league semi finals, led his team to the la liga title with a record 100 points and by a record 15 points. Such a player should not be nominated because a group of 11 players teamed to win the champions league? Please say something else, please!

[quote author=A-40]This is rich coming from a Barca fan! How many goals did Iniesta score when he won the award last season? I'm not sure he scored up to ten goals for club and country all season long! No goals at the Euros! I didn't hear anybody talk about team effort then

Football goes beyond scoring 1000 goals per season if not Lampard would be better than Zidane or Xavi and Iniesta. Barca is tailor-made for Messi to score 100 goals per season whereas Bayern has a more balanced offense! Should teams be punished for playing the game as a team sport? As it should be?

The years Ronaldinho won world best I'm sure he was outscored by Forlan and Henry yet he won the award

Go and watch that final again and look at how Ribery set up the 2nd goal and played a key pass to set up the first! Ribery was the most influential player in Europe last season[/quote]hahaha. That's exactly what you guys do so well. When you want to put messi down, you rate barca so highly. When you want to put barca down you then rate messi highly. Are you kidding me or what? Is it the same barca who has become bayern's 'wife' that makes messi score 100 goals a seaason? Would like to see gomez or manzukic score 100 goals afterall messi drops back to midfield more times in one game than gomez or manzukic would ever do in their entire careers. Is barca also tailor made to make messi dribble 3,4,5 defenders so consistently? Or is barca also tailor made to make messi score consecutively against all 19 la liga oppositions? Even though I feel that robben should win this award I must tell you that in this messi, ronaldo era where scoring 50 goals a season has become a piece of cake, it's only natural that team achievements would always get overlooked when individual honours are made. Messi and ronaldo, infact messi has shattered goals records which would have been unimagined 10 years ago.

For all those of you shouting ronaldo, ronaldo, ronaldo. Ronaldo shouldn't even be on this short list. It should be robben, messi and lewandowski, and robben should win.

A beast of a man, A man who can make a tackle with his eye ball.I wish I could have even a 30 year old carles puyol again or better put, I wish puyol could be 30 years old again.

I've not seen this story anywhere else!

Mcleo007: Take Bale over Neymar Jnr? Are you For real?

absolutely yes. I think bale is better than neymAr. Gareth bale is a wonderful footballer. If he wAs playing for manchester united or santos, or brazil or portugal he would have won a lot of awards and trophies.

ortopazz: Before it seems as though am pitting Bale Vs Cr7 or tend to portray that I am a fan of the Latter, we nid to be objective, when u state those class of players aforementioned, as at 24 was cr7 fit to be among them?, when Madrid came knocking, did his achievements herald him as the gift or sensation of our time? Was there any doubt such as this(Bale) that he wasnt worth the amt,If nt even more?


Bale is gud no doubt, buh like his cun3ri man Giggs it stopz there, I cnt remember Bale being that superb 4 Wales, well if he has then good buh Ronaldo then, now, Portugal n R.M herald him, he was worth everypiece.


That was then this is now. . can u sincerely say that Bale deserves even the same bid Madrid cartered Ronaldo wiv?
Is Bale the sensation of his day?

Just be objective when striking back. .can u sincerely put Bale amongst the class of people u mentioned? .haba. .come on . .


Dnt h8 him buh if bale is bought for that amount, Football to Me has lost its sense. . Maybe I came out to strong in saying change or no change, but if there is that shud be higher than Ron, definitely not Bale to me. .

I only responded to your summary of your first comment which you wrote in block letters-bale is not worth being priced above cr7. If you think gulf in class between cr7 And bale is so great that bale couldn't be priced above ronaldo, then I put it to you as well that the gulf in class between zidane and cr7 was equally as great if not greater. That's the simple analogy. You guys should let bale be now! Where you thinking he would hold the record forever? As a madridsta you should be happy acquiring a player like bale to help your team and your cr7 instead of fretting over cr7's record transfer. My team just signed neymar but I would take bale over neymar. Be happy for real madrid my friend.

ortopazz: To me whether or not Bale is worth the price its bad biz, look at their stats, am okay wiv Cr7 being the Image of the club, singning in Bale at such cost is a distraction, huge one at that, why in Godz name do u buy a player that amt when his pedigree cnt be compared to ur biggest star, just WHAT IF, he doesnt become all that, when we want to sell him which would become a case, no body wil want to buy half the price,and his contract for sure will be huge, like kaka hence wahala of loan.

Torres a 5om project is not far fetched example. .too

Buh then I dnt doubt his ability to deliver just that the price is way off the top. . .bale to me is luking to be erythang that Ron was n will ever be and nt vice versa. . .at this stage of his career bale's gurlfwend would av done anyfin 2 be wif Ron. .n even now.Lol, though thatz on the flipside. .

BALE IS NOT WORTH BEING PRICED ABOVE RONALDO, CHANGE OR NO CHANGE. . .

do you think ronaldo wAs worth being priced above the real ronaldo, zidane, figo, or raul gonzalez?

logica: Messi's first goal is one of those goals he scores so often: use his quick awareness and pace to beat the goalkeeper/defender to a loose ball (yes, at the right place at the right time indeed). Now, who do you give the assist to? Once again, NOT all goals are scored with assists.

true. Not all goals are assisted. A typical messi goal is unassisted. When he takes the ball and runs tru 5 getafe players or when he takes the ball and runs tru 4 real madrid defenders, who becomes the assist man?

Guys, let gareth bale live and let cr7 live. Cr7 was the world player of the year 2008, gareth bale is the most expensive player ever. Change is permanent.

Johnpaul88: Manchester United conceded more goals than we did last season and yet no one is yelling at them to buy a defender. I believe restoration of our system is more important than buying all the defenders in the world. There is no guarrantee that these defenders 'll make much difference if the philosophy of total football which means the team defending as a unit and other things, is not restored. Have you forgotten so soon that we won our last UCL in 2011 with this Mescharano partnering Pique against a very good ManU? We'll get a defender but if we don't press and harry the oppositions as we used to do, it'll only make little difference.

bro,I think man u is hardly a standard nowadays. With our current squad we will still beat man u but not bayern munich and real madrid. That is why we need to 'dare devil' defender this term. I agree we must stick to our principles but footbaLl nowadays is not only played on the ground but in the air as well.

nitlad: No, you are getting it wrong. The question should be: Among the nonentities that foolishly and unfortunately brought you to come wallow in their misfortune, whose influence is more profound on you - Your father's or your mother's? Cos only a person with chronic generational curses radiates as much stupidity and idiocy as you do.

Oloriburuku omo iya aje.
Thunder faya you and your wretched household!

oops,I really hit a raw nerve on you! Mr nitw.. Or sorry nitlad, your knack for being 'nitwitty' made you make that comment in the first place. Like I said before hop off barca d1ck and go ride somewhere else.it's true barca don gone 'soft' lately. It waas due to Barca 'coming' in you so much and can't get it up for now. Come Try riding again when the seaason starts, we be 'hard' again!

nitlad: No, you are getting it wrong. The question should be: Among the nonentities that foolishly and unfortunately brought you to come wallow in their misfortune, whose influence is more profound on you - Your father's or your mother's? Cos only a person with chronic generational curses radiates as much stupidity and idiocy as you do.

Oloriburuku omo iya aje.
Thunder faya you and your wretched household!

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nitlad: No, you are getting it wrong. The question should be: Among the nonentities that foolishly and unfortunately brought you to come wallow in their misfortune, whose influence is more profound on you - Your father's or your mother's? Cos only a person with chronic generational curses radiates as much stupidity and idiocy as you do.

Oloriburuku omo iya aje.
Thunder faya you and your wretched household!

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nitlad: Barça got blown away by Bayern - It was just a friendly.
Barça couldn't best some imbecilës from Poland - It was also just a friendly.
Now Barça don win - It is an evidence of Barça's readiness to return to the pinnacle of European footie.

get off barca d1ck will you. Are you nitlad or nitwit?

Johnpaul88: I know it's only a friendly and only Santos FC but i loved the pressing and high intensity that the team used throughout yesterday to play them. It was refreshing that Martino is making Barca fans to believe again that we can return to the pinnacle of European football this season. This is what we solely missed last season. The team is also looking very sharp and fit. I wish they can maintain this during the course of the season.

pls let's not get ahead of ourselves already! If you have tata's phone number call him to buy a centre back to partner pique ASAP.can't believe we still playing mascherano at centre back.

usbcable: Badu bello indeed.


but why all the God darn noise about a player yet to make any significant mark for either club or country except for an hat-trick against inter milan

what impact are you expecting from him playing for wales and spurs? let cr7 play for wales and spurs and lets see!

hmn hmn! will ronaldo escort messi to the podium again in 2013?

[quote author=A-40]Well there aren't many options atm Schweini,Martinez,Gotze are all battling with fitness issues if Thiago keeps screwing up possession he would wind up riding the bench! This is Bayern and Pep knows he has to win we've given him all the tools required[/quote]its only a matter of time before thiago got back to the bench just like at barca. with a fully fit bayern squad at my disposal thiago wouldnt be in my starting eleven.

where are all them bayern fans tonight? they are spending more time on their thread tonight. for the first time their attention has been caught by 'other matters'

[quote author=A-40]Are you are a jester? I knew which was why I referenced the Madrid vs Bayern game in the first place!

Anyway you are just whining! The only debatable goal was the 2nd with Gomez marginally offside all the other goals were perfect so enuff with the excuses already! When Barca were winning you didn't come out to complain about any farce so make we hear word

Which ref has not been at the center of controversy? Clattenburg,Webb,Merk? They all have been there at some point

7-0 na still 7-0 yall can argue till you are blue in the face but for now all una can do is Watch The Throne [/quote]yes its all in the past now so lets all stop whinning. there will be more bayern barca games in the future. everything for now is in the past, like bayern beating barca 9-0 in 270 mins and barca beating bayern 4-0 in 90 mins. we all have sh1t to brag about but hope everyone recognises the past is the past. everyone is at liberty to dig up the past which suits them.

Johnpaul88: No one knows about this handball claims except perhaps Bayern fans.

Ovrebo controversially sent off Abidal in the 53rd mins or so when he deemed that abidal brought down Anelka that was bearing down on goal but in truth Anelka clipped his own legs. The ref noticed his mistake and he ignored all penalty claims so as to atone for the error. If he wanted Barca to win i don't think the best way he could have achieved that is by sending away Barca player that early in 2nd half. I dont know why people conviniently ignores this fact.

For the 2nd leg against Madrid, Ronaldo claimed to have been fouled by Pique but proceeded to haul down Mascherano who was in good position to clear the ball, giving Higuain chance to score. It was therefore not difficult for the ref to notice the cheating by Ronaldo and he blew against him before Higuain foolishly scored.

JP are you surprised?they all like a typical nigerian girlfriend who never remembers the good times but always whines about hard times. of course with them the ovrebo gate excludes the first significant incident -the wrongful expulsion of abidal. of course they are quick to remember how van persie was sent off and easy to forget how messi's second goal was wrongfully disallowed. they are quick to announce how motta was sent off but sweet to forget how milito was a million yards offside. so many more. do i need to state how barca was barshed by the ref against bayern and madrid psg and milan?. see all the reeree's errors.did someone just justify mullers attack on alba? and he says alba couldnt make the tackle?

i must confess it's been a torrid time against bayern munich. they are the best in the world. we need to try and bounce back. didnt watch the game but at a point i flipped the channel and caught a glimpse of mascerano @ centre back and i was like are we for real? still playing masch @ cb, with the transfer window open for like forever? we should be the most unserious club ever.

1025: 4+3+2=9

buyern 9

0+0+0=0

barca 0

3 times meeting = 3 times beating.

barca, buyern no be una mate ooo.

this groupie is back again.

in any civilized society he should be in detention already for attempted murder. he claims he was beaten up first by chinda and bipi but he failed to realize that he would have been justified if he maced those guys at the point of assault, would have amounted to self defense. but coming back and macing chinda so maliciously 30 mins later then amounted to an attempted murder. he should be locked up.

mikel helped chelsea win the europa league with his many crucial goals!!! which many crucial goals