Seems Morgan is down.

IfnobeGod20:

You just went to copy lie. The link you copied is broken and not correct. Stop heaping lie upon lie on yourself. Peter Obi political journey began with APGA.

Your browser might be malfunctioning. But try this link from The Cable

https://www.thecable.ng/peter-obi-im-not-desperate-to-be-president/amp?/peter-obi-im-not-desperate-to-be-president

Please note where the report reads:

This is not the first time I left PDP. In 2002, when I started politics, I was a member of PDP. I went to one meeting and I wanted to contribute and some of the people said I can’t contribute. I quietly left and went to APGA, campaigned and won the election.”

Adinije:
Cool, will buy again tomorrow. Hopefully it touches #47

If it touches 47 tomorrow, that will be fine.

Adinije:
Ur are right. I have scoop some. while waiting for more dip.

Tomorrow is my diving day.

Adinije:
DS on full offer? Any -ve news ni

Another opportunity to lay ambush brewing.

IfnobeGod20:
And you lied. Obi began his political journey from APGA in 2003. Go and google that.

https://saharareporters.com/2022/05/27/i-left-pdp-party-also-2002-my-presidential-ambition-not-do-or-die-%E2%80%93-peter-obi

Alliswell248:


Story story....
First Oshiomole was never in LP.....he was in Ac....then moved to APC.


Which party would obi go?
Obi who is unprincipled.....from apga....pdp...LP....

Shameless set of people.

Elupee has scattered.....

Jagaban till 2031

You even missed it. Obi actually started from PDP, moved to APGA, moved back to PDP and moved to LP. So Obi has been in PDP twice.

Freshtruth:
NLC are big fools if you remove Tinubu u are slowly moving obi and his obidents followers even Alex Otii will decamp if obi leaves, Obedients are not supporting Labour party they are supporting obi himself.
Let me ask a question if Labour party get level why did 2former Governors Mimiko and oshomole who won with LP Decamp to PDP and APC immediately after using LP platform?
Common sense they say is not common

Oshiomhole won in AC and never LP. Get your facts right please.

vacanci:


the problem is one can get trapped.

Imagine those investors in Multiverse who have been trying to come out for the past one month. total traded value yesterday from 6 deals only was N21k. You spot opportunity elsewhere and want to sell multiverse to key into such opportunities just like when MTN got to N180. Multiverse trapped you inside.
Yesterday also, Champion breweries, only 3 deals with total value of around N5k.

Look at McNichols, after the price went up many days and hit the top, coming out was a problem until it went back to where it started from before we started seeing bids.
Mecure has trapped investors wanting out as we speak. remember how it was flying high and jumping 10% daily for weeks. Yesterday's total traded volume was just 21k

so many stocks like that will do people shege.

Climbing up is not the problem but when you want to come out, it's a big problem especially when you are invested with huge fund.

my advice to penny stock wannabe investors is to use penny amounts to buy penny stocks. Imagine someone queuing up very early trying to sell about 1M units of Mecure or Multiverse. it would take more than 2 weeks of others waiting if the 1M guy gets in front everyday.

I learnt my lesson when i tried to jump out of one penny stock with N800K value to invest in an opportunity elsewhere. i remained trapped while the other stock which was a highly liquid one made 30%. As i speak, i am still trapped but the paper value has gone down drastically by about 50%.

As for me, i learn't my lessons

It has been repeatedly said here that the first thing to consider in trying to trade a penny stock is historical liquidity.
You can't be so trapped in JAPAUL for example. Secondly, most instances of getting stuck in a penny stock after a long way rally are fueled by greed else it is always clear when the trend is dying down but a greedy trader would assume that somehow it will just continue the rally forever.
Even some non-penny stocks do become very illiquid after a prolonged rally. Take a look at GEREGU's behavior since it hit N1000 all the way from N300+. It is now difficult to sell large volumes yet it is by no means a penny stock.
It takes up to four trading days for a penny stock to become illiquid after much rally. Those who are caught are the types who are guilty of the Wild Goose Hunter story.

JagabanB:

I open Nairaland when I want to reply read and reply comments, winding them up is not difficult and u see how shaIIow most of them are.

Very shallow indeed. Sometimes when I read some of their comments I start wondering whether they read through those comments before posting them. Very self contradictory and illogical comments which even a primary school pupil could easily burst with mere common sense.

JagabanB:

They thîñk and àct Iike a hèrd controIIed with a stîck and cIaim to be intelligent.

Honestly speaking. Whenever I am bored, I just open Igbo threads on NL to read their comical posts and comments on how they are next to God in the whole Africa. Then if I want to exercise my hands and brain, I reply some of them like I am presently doing in this thread.

Locotrader:


Except the mgt decides to delist the stock, it is a #5 5tock.Timeframe is 2 years from now

Wow! Never even knew this. That means IEI is a big cashcow for the next two years. It ended on full bid today anyway. We watch and see what happens tomorrow. I am well loaded in it. If it can get to just even N3 then I may just take the loot and go to rest in my village to return next year January.

nwadikeokey11:
But I thought even Nmesomas original score was more than enough to secure her admission in any uni to study any course of her choice? Her only problem or crime was greed. She was aiming for the scholarship award for the highest scorer and because she didn't get that point she decided to add a little point just to come up on top. That was her only crime not that her result wasn't good enough. Even all the teachers that taught her bore witness to the fact that she's a very brilliant girl. And the same result got her admission oversea. So your Nmesomas rant still holds no water, oga.

You have just confirmed that Mmesoma knew she wasn't brilliant enough for the scholarship she was seeking hence had to find a way to circumvent the minimum requirement for that scholarship.

Locotrader:


That illiquidity is the reason I like iei.
My stock picks are more of illiquid stocks.
When there is turnaround in a company, people will start looking for it no matter the illiquidity. Still on this illiquidity, when market begins to show justice to a stock because of the impressive numbers, that stock will trade at a very high price.

Exactly. When an illiquid stock's figures are excellent, it is a movement to the moon.

Locotrader:


You spotted a good stock on a track to beat many insurance companies within 5 years.
I have taken position and will still buy more.
Looking at Q1 last year, I believe this year Q1 will surpass it. Take a look at the last Q1 result below.

I will not be surprise to see it on full bid today

Yes I saw those results last week.

EbinPawaGovt:


Point of correction. Google, the Europeans and Americans say so.
2) Hopefully, you may have an important view about why the Ibos couldn't stop the British despite being the most intelligent African tribe. Any contribution since folks like Deadlytruth have been running in circles saying nothing? As you can see,we have already proven that Igbo childresn are required to score up to 160 in unity exams or disunity exams while some of your tribes children qualify if they scire 6. A clear testimony that even your government deem Igbo the most intelligent tribe in the country. Igbo children also beat the rest of you silly in national exams with level playing fiels such as WAEC and JAMB. At least, these are facts we all are aware of (before they start rigging exams the way they rig election in the country).

So why couldn't the smartest African tribe stop the British from colonizing them?

You keep repeating this 160 score thing without being able to bring up any superior facts or logic than the explanation already given. How could a supposedly intelligent people have the least number of schools per population? Tell your governors to build you more public schools in your state and watch those cut off marks reduce. It should actually be a thing of shame that Northern states like Kaduna, Bauchi, Katsina each have up to 3,000 state government owned schools while states like Abia, Anambra and Ebonyi have less than 1,500 each.
You folks have for years been accusing Britain and the US of falsifying records against Igbo in Nigeria in the quest to help Fulanis dominate. But now, you are stuck to a statistics from the same colonial overlords because it seems to favor your sentiments. The day these same people will make an amendment to that claim is the same day we will begin to hear again how they cook up data to perpetuate Fulani hegemony in Nigeria.

Locotrader:
@ Deadlytruith, I don't use to send DM or respond to it.I would have like to send you Dm on Iei stock.

I wanted both of us to rub mind on the stock you spotted which I think is good. Your action of not responding to my messages is not a good one. I can't do that to you.

I worked so much on that stock throughout last week and now it is a BUY stock. I got a lot at 1.20 and 1.22.I will continue to buy until I meet my target. You can average down at these prices or below but getting the stock at below 1.20 will be extremely difficult for now because liquidity and good trading setup is created for the stock at this time only. I will review the stock again after Q1 result.

Just seeing this. So sorry for not responding quickly. I was on a journey throughout Friday and again for a substantial part of yesterday hence couldn't even come around during the active moments. As for IEI, I am afraid of discussing it too much here for fear of MH label, and that explains why I somehow became reluctant in responding to posts about it. But we however can continue through DM. Please check your email in few minutes from now. Thanks.

EbinPawaGovt:


You are jumping here and there.
1) why do Igbo children need to score 160 in an exam that other children from other tribes need to score as low as 6 to qualify if they're not deemed to be of superior intelligence even by your government?

You can keep pretending not to have seen the explanation. I can't help beyond that.

EbinPawaGovt:


2) Why do Igbo children lead in national exams that create level playing fields such as WAEC and JAMB? Even when they write these exams in non Igbo states?

The Mmesoma UTME scandal has long shattered that myth.

EbinPawaGovt:


3) Why would you be a prosecutor and judge in a case you have vested interest in as an African or even a Nigerian? Don't you think that nonAfricans such as Europeans and Americans are in the best position of objectivity to assess the most intelligent and smartest African tribe since it's obvious that as an African, emotions such as jealousy would play a role in making you distort the truth?

And you yourself have been hypocritically relying on JAMB data issued by that same Nigerian government as an evidence of that your Igbo intelligence. What an interesting irony! Is JAMB a European or an American Organization?

EbinPawaGovt:


4) if the European countries and Americans who are obviously more advanced than you and whose schools teach you say Igbo are the most intelligent African tribe, what evidence can you provide to the contrary?

That statistics is about the academic performances of blacks in the US alone.
Academic performance is not same as intelligence. Thank God you agree that Americans and Europeans are more intelligent than us. Now, most Americans who broke records in intelligence dropped out of school. E.g. Bill gates. Even in history, some of the greatest scientists couldn't afford education. So intelligence is different from academic performance.

EbinPawaGovt:

5) if you can answer any of these then I'd like you to tell us why you think that the Igbo couldn't stop the British conquest of the Igbo country since they're the most intelligent African tribe.

This alone is the greatest proof that the alleged intelligence is a phantom hence the explanation is yours to make.

babasolution:


Majority of Nigerians don't care about the Igbo and have never hindered the Igbo in any way,limit your labeling to the specific groups that are hindering the Igbo, am from a small minority tribe in kogi,we have never done anything against the Igbo, the Igbo have had it way better than us in Nigeria,we have never benefitted anything from NIG, all we have is through our tears ,sweat and blood,don't categorise us with people who you think are hindering your igbo

You just said the truth. I too am from a minority within a minority in Edo State. In my place no one cares about Igbo issue as long as they don't interfer with our local politics. In fact during the war, those Igbos living in my town were protected from the Nigerian forces when they came searching from house to house for Igbos to kill. Our people hid them in the attics of their houses for days and giving them food right there till those Nigerian soldiers were gone.

EbinPawaGovt:


You've not said anything to prove the Europeans, the Americans or Google wrong. European countries said the Igbo would become a Japan in Africa. The Americans say Igbos are the most intelligent African tribe.

Google, an European company in the United States say Igbo are the most intelligent black tribe on earth.

In Nigeria, the Nigerian government demands Igbo children score as high as 160 for an exam other tribes need to score as low as 6. Yet Igbo children are always leading in the most transparent national exams that provide level ground such as JAMB and WAEC. So it just you making unsuccessful attempt to change facts which you can't do even given 1000 lifetimes.

Since it's proven that Igbo are the smartest tribe in Africa, the question you should be struggling with is why the Igbo couldn't stop the British conquest of the Igbo country since they were the most intelligent African tribe in a position to have done so. Arguing against fact points to the low intelligence attribute of some African tribes which is partly responsible for the position of blacks on earth today. So please stick to the topic of why Igbo could not stop the British. I know it's a bit too academic for a Nairaland discussion.

I have addressed the issue of high cut off marks for Igbo states. Go and press your governors to build more schools for you and watch those cut off marks drop in the same manner the Naira drops against the Dollar.

That report is about academic performance, and of course since Igbos have few schools in their home states back in Nigeria, it is natural that they would have the highest Nigerian population of international students in the US and therefore have the highest percentage of blacks doing well in academics in US schools. Is this too difficult to understand?

When someone is genuinely of innate intelligence, you should be able to see the results around him and in the endeavours he undertakes. Go to the South East, the Igbos' home region, and see for yourself how squalid and undeveloped it is there generally. Igbos are the only ethnicity group in Nigeria who have more of its natives in other regions than in their own region. That is not a hallmark of intelligence. Secondly, an intelligent people are usually organized, civilized m, decent in attitude etc. One of the most important traits of intelligence is the ability to correctly predict the likely outcome of an action or decision one is about to take and therefore apply restraint if necessary.
On that note Igbo political leaders can't be said to be intelligent as all the positions and decisions they took on important national questions ended up ruining the Igbo race. Examples are as follows:
1. The decision to enter into a governing coalition with NPC thus giving power to the most educationally backward people to pioneer governance in a new country seeking to find its foot in good governance.

2. Deciding to go into a political partnership that would give absolute political power to the very section of the country where their own brothers had experienced two pogroms without any justifiable reason.

3. Believing that a bloody coup was the best solution to resolve mere political differences among politicians among whom there are no permanent friends or enemies.

4. Declaring a war and relying on hurriedly recruited teenage boys with sticks and cutlasses for weapons against a well trained Nigeria Army armed with the state of the art firearms.

5. Believing that a country of over 300 tribes could be successfully governed by a strong centre hence the campaign for one-Nigeria by Igbos.


Then above all, your well known claim that the coupists (who were mostly Igbos) did the coup with the ultimate intention to bring Awolowo to power because they adjuded him as the only non-mediocre among all the political class, is an indictment of this alleged Igbo intelligence. It was a case of a group of Igbos confessing that they couldn't find an Igbo man intelligent enough to correctly govern Nigeria but found it in a Yoruba man.
Even Ojukwu himself, the man whom Igbos have come to believe is their greatest leader used his own mouth to publicly declare that this Yoruba man in question was the best president Nigeria never had. Why couldn't he find same from among his own supposedly more intelligent tribe?

EbinPawaGovt:


You've not said anything to prove the Europeans, the Americans or Google wrong. European countries said the Igbo would become a Japan in Africa. The Americans say Igbos are the most intelligent African tribe.

Google, an European company in the United States say Igbo are the most intelligent black tribe on earth.

In Nigeria, the Nigerian government demands Igbo children score as high as 160 for an exam other tribes need to score as low as 6. Yet Igbo children are always leading in the most transparent national exams that provide level ground such as JAMB and WAEC. So it just you making unsuccessful attempt to change facts which you can't do even given 1000 lifetimes.

Since it's proven that Igbo are the smartest tribe in Africa, the question you should be struggling with is why the Igbo couldn't stop the British conquest of the Igbo country since they were the most intelligent African tribe in a position to have done so. Arguing against fact points to the low intelligence attribute of some African tribes which is partly responsible for the position of blacks on earth today. So please stick to the topic of why Igbo could not stop the British. I know it's a bit too academic for a Nairaland discussion.

That report is about academic performance, and of course since Igbos have few schools in their home states back in Nigeria, it is natural that they would have the highest Nigerian population of international students in the US and therefore have the highest percentage of blacks doing well in academics in US schools. Is this too difficult to understand?

When someone is genuinely of innate intelligence, you should be able to see the results around him and in the endeavours he undertakes. Go to the South East, the Igbos' home region, and see for yourself how squalid and undeveloped it is there generally. Igbos are the only ethnicity group in Nigeria who have more of its natives in other regions than in their own region. That is not a hallmark of intelligence. Secondly, an intelligent people are usually organized, civilized m, decent in attitude etc. One of the most important traits of intelligence is the ability to correctly predict the likely outcome of an action or decision one is about to take and therefore apply restraint if necessary.
On that note Igbo political leaders can't be said to be intelligent as all the positions and decisions they took on important national questions ended up ruining the Igbo race. Examples are as follows:
1. The decision to enter into a governing coalition with NPC thus giving power to the most educationally backward people to pioneer governance in a new country seeking to find its foot in good governance.

2. Deciding to go into a political partnership that would give absolute political power to the very section of the country where their own brothers had experienced two pogroms without any justifiable reason.

3. Believing that a bloody coup was the best solution to resolve mere political differences among politicians among whom there are no permanent friends or enemies.

4. Declaring a war and relying on hurriedly recruited teenage boys with sticks and cutlasses for weapons against a well trained Nigeria Army armed with the state of the art firearms.

5. Believing that a country of over 300 tribes could be successfully governed by a strong centre hence the campaign for one-Nigeria by Igbos.


Then above all, your well known claim that the coupists (who were mostly Igbos) did the coup with the ultimate intention to bring Awolowo to power because they adjuded him as the only non-mediocre among all the political class, is an indictment of this alleged Igbo intelligence. It was a case of a group of Igbos confessing that they couldn't find an Igbo man intelligent enough to correctly govern Nigeria but found it in a Yoruba man.
Even Ojukwu himself, the man whom Igbos have come to believe is their greatest leader used his own mouth to publicly declare that this Yoruba man in question was the best president Nigeria never had. Why couldn't he find same from among his own supposedly more intelligent tribe?

EbinPawaGovt:


You've not said anything to prove the Europeans, the Americans or Google wrong. European countries said the Igbo would become a Japan in Africa. The Americans say Igbos are the most intelligent African tribe.

Google, an European company in the United States say Igbo are the most intelligent black tribe on earth.

In Nigeria, the Nigerian government demands Igbo children score as high as 160 for an exam other tribes need to score as low as 6. Yet Igbo children are always leading in the most transparent national exams that provide level ground such as JAMB and WAEC. So it just you making unsuccessful attempt to change facts which you can't do even given 1000 lifetimes.

Since it's proven that Igbo are the smartest tribe in Africa, the question you should be struggling with is why the Igbo couldn't stop the British conquest of the Igbo country since they were the most intelligent African tribe in a position to have done so. Arguing against fact points to the low intelligence attribute of some African tribes which is partly responsible for the position of blacks on earth today. So please stick to the topic of why Igbo could not stop the British. I know it's a bit too academic for a Nairaland discussion.

That report is about academic performance, and of course since Igbos have few schools in their home states back in Nigeria, it is natural that they would have the highest Nigerian population of international students in the US and therefore have the highest percentage of blacks doing well in academics in US schools. Is this too difficult to understand?

When someone is genuinely of innate intelligence, you should be able to see the results around him and in the endeavours he undertakes. Go to the South East, the Igbos' home region, and see for yourself how squalid and undeveloped it is there generally. Igbos are the only ethnicity group in Nigeria who have more of its natives in other regions than in their own region. That is not a hallmark of intelligence. Secondly, an intelligent people are usually organized, civilized m, decent in attitude etc. One of the most important traits of intelligence is the ability to correctly predict the likely outcome of an action or decision one is about to take and therefore apply restraint if necessary.
On that note Igbo political leaders can't be said to be intelligent as all the positions and decisions they took on important national questions ended up ruining the Igbo race. Examples are as follows:
1. The decision to enter into a governing coalition with NPC thus giving power to the most educationally backward people to pioneer governance in a new country seeking to find its foot in good governance.

2. Deciding to go into a political partnership that would give absolute political power to the very section of the country where their own brothers had experienced two pogroms without any justifiable reason.

3. Believing that a bloody coup was the best solution to resolve mere political differences among politicians among whom there are no permanent friends or enemies.

4. Declaring a war and relying on hurriedly recruited teenage boys with sticks and cutlasses for weapons against a well trained Nigeria Army armed with the state of the art firearms.

5. Believing that a country of over 300 tribes could be successfully governed by a strong centre hence the campaign for one-Nigeria by Igbos.


Then above all, your well known claim that the coupists (who were mostly Igbos) did the coup with the ultimate intention to bring Awolowo to power because they adjuded him as the only non-mediocre among all the political class, is an indictment of this alleged Igbo intelligence. It was a case of a group of Igbos confessing that they couldn't find an Igbo man intelligent enough to correctly govern Nigeria but found it in a Yoruba man.
Even Ojukwu himself, the man whom Igbos have come to believe is their greatest leader used his own mouth to publicly declared that this Yoruba man in question was the best president Nigeria never had. Why couldn't he find same from among his own supposedly more intelligent tribe?

onumadu:


The bolded is a total opposite of the true quote:

The ultimate measure of a man is not where he stands in moments of comfort and convenience, but where he stands at times of challenge and controversy. -Martin Luther King, Jr.

I add to it that the real test of intelligence is how inventive and resilient a person can be when he is under bombardment 24/7 and when he had no assurance of the next meal (because the enemy was violating all known and unknown laws of war and conventions).
Under such crucible, the Igbo-dominated nation shocked their enemies with many inventions.

You keep sidestepping the issue of autonomy, but I won't let you change the subject. ..

Why had there not been even a fully functioning international airport and seaports where goods and persons can go DIRECTLY NONSTOP to and from Igboland since the end of the war?
What are you people afraid of?
It is like tying your boxing opponent's hands and legs before declaring the fight on, and then you turn around to accuse him of claiming to be a better fighter after you've landed some blows on him.
Duh ... you tied his hands and feet first!
Untie him first, and then bring the fight on, and see if you won't be beaten to stupor.

Heck, you couldn't even conduct a simple presidential election which EVERY POLL predicted would be won by an Igbo man. You had to rig it.

Forget about the so called "unity schools"; what about JAMB and university entrance nko?
Shouldn't all Nigerians be tested purely based on intelligence? Why single out Igbo states to require higher cut-off marks?
Until you allow EVERY Nigerian to have the same cut off marks for university entrance, I will continue to say that Igbo are BY FAR more intelligent than others with lower cut-off marks.
And if you still doubt Igbo IQ superiority, give them independence and allow them to prove you right. QED.

Martin Luther King was a sociopolitical activist while intelligence is more of a biological trait hence a sociopolitical activist's view of a biological concept can't be valid. All biological principles show clearly that any living organism becomes relatively more inventive when faced with an existential threat, and the inventiveness naturally abates when that existential threat is removed. Therefore genuine inventiveness is a measure of intelligence in time of peace and safety when there is no compelling quest for survival.

The issue of autonomy you are harping on is actually against you because a people who genuinely believe that they would have excelled under autonomy would not have maintained a conspiratorial and criminal silence when all other regions were in the streets in demonstration against Ironsi's Unification Decree which was clearly going to kill autonomy. This is simple logic.

On the issue of seaport in Igbo land: does any Igbo State have access to the sea directly? If so, why couldn't Michael Okpara build one at that sea access point during the time you enjoyed the very autonomy you claim would have taken you to heaven on earth?

On the issue of presidential election; so the Igbo man would have won an election after openly calling it a religious war to the hearing of core Northern state voters who have the highest voter turn out and are passionately of a religious persuasion opposite that of the Igbo candidate who so declared?
If the Igbo man was going to win as you claim, then implicitly you are also claiming that majority of Nigerians masses loved him and actually vote for him. Is that not a self contradiction to your propaganda that other Nigerian ethnicities hate Igbos and deliberately don't want them to rule?

For JAMB and University entrance, you need to ask yourself whether state owned universities in the SE admit non-SEasterners as much as SEasterners are admitted into state owned universities outside their regions. Then per, federal government owned universities, the same explanation for unity schools holds. Most states in the SS and SW were ahead of Igbo states in founding their own universities.

JagabanB:

I am not a Yoruba, if u have high IQ u wóñ't assume everyone is a Yoruba.
The talk is on google because people actually seem to igñóre u foIks, we all know that u are not the most intelligent trîbè.
Intelligent only the internet.

To them, whoever takes exception to their lies must be a Yoruba person. Very paranoid set of people.

Oriental4:


The election of 2023 is actually proof of the OP position that they're the most intelligent tribe in Africa. Imagine a people who saw through the Tinubu and Buhari incompetence. You rather owe Igbo an apology for low intelligence voting dragging them back. I can't laugh abeg...that you're even proud of voting Tinubu has evinced your low IQ, which is what the OP is about. So let's not derail rthe post. It's about Igbos inability to stop the colonialist unlike the Japanes. If you have a view on that please.

But at the same time those very people were routing for a man whom they themselves once described as a huge failure of governance in Anambra. So it wasn't about intelligence but about seeking their turn to rule Nigeria. And if anything, Obi's tenure as Anambra governor can't be compared with Tinubu's as Lagos governor.
Peter Obi invested Anambra funds to buy the shares of a brewery which thereafter plummeted in value and causing over 80% capital erosion while Tinubu at the same time invested Lagos funds in Airtel which thereafter recorded over 300% capital appreciation. It clear that the one who made a very bad investment decision is the less intelligent. Then Peter Obi gave out so many false and bogus statistics.
So we actually dodged a bullet.
And come to think about it, you don't even need to be an economist to know that Peter Obi's decision to invest public funds in brewery business is a very unintelligent decision. Here are the reasons:

1. Those who drink bear in any population are usually of a very small percentage in the range of 10 to 15% , and that even among the few who drink, only about one third of them are really able to afford it from their pockets hence they are always at the mercy of their fellow drinkers who are generous enough to buy for them. In essence therefore, beer manufacture does not really generate revenue from the larger population composed of women and children and those men who don't drink.
An intelligent governor should have rather invested in the manufacture of soft drinks and biscuits which are far cheaper than beer, are eaten by over 80% of the population, even children and babies can easily afford it from their own pockets thus a good revenue stream for government, lower cost of production than beer, etc.

onumadu:


I would answer you this way: The single most consistent test of IQ in Nigeria today is the standardized tests for university entrance and others like it in Nigeria. Why do Igbo states have higher cut-off marks than other non-Igbo states?
Answer this first.

This propaganda has been peddled by you Igbos for long and have successfully used it to hoodwink the ignorant Nigerians into believing it is a policy deliberately targeted to pull Igbo race down when in actual fact it is a fall out of the failure of the governors of the Igbo states in educational development of their region.
Take a look at the content of the link below
https://www.statista.com/statistics/1268440/number-of-primary-schools-in-nigeria-by-state/

You would observe that the SE states have the lowest state government owned primary and secondary schools in Nigeria relative to their population. This therefore causes a situation whereby most Igbo kids can't find admission placement in secondary schools in their home states and therefore have to burden the other regions and the FG unity schools more than every other region. This is the simple reason why the FG therefore jacks up the cut off mark for applicants from Igbo states. It is therefore more of a statement that governors of Igbo states have failed to build schools for to their people than the alleged deliberate ploy by the Nigerian system to hold down Igbos. It is a matter of simple Economic principle of price increase when demand outweighs supply.
I know you will not open the link hence I have attached the screenshots below. You can see states like Anambra, Abia, Ebonyi at the rock bottom of the table as against states like Lagos, Oyo and even some Northern states like Kaduna and Bauchi at the top spots.

onumadu:


You have no idea how much damage forced unity had done to the igbo in Nigeria.
Someone said earlier that Nigeria exists solely to stop Igbo from exercising FULL SELF DETERMINATION, hence self actualization - maximizing self expression (of intelligence).
Imagine a country that contains Israel, Jordan, Iran, Lebanon etc. And in that country, all that non-Israel nations (who obviously have more population when combined) obsess about is how to make sure that Israel never emerges, or Jews never fully express their God-given potential.
That is exactly what is happening to the Igbo in Nigeria.

Unfortunately for you, all records in the annals of history prove clearly the fact that the forced unity was the handiwork of Igbos who had assumed that Nigeria was their to dominate.
Remind me the tribe of Azikiwe who killed all motions for secession clause. Also remind me of the tribe of Aguiyi Ironsi who promulgated the Anti-secession Decree. Remind me of the tribe of Ojukwu who crushed Isaac Boro's Niger Delta Republic quest.

onumadu:

For a very brief moment when Igbo enjoyed full sovereignty and autonomy, didn't you see what they produced?
In fact what they produced frightened some guys in Europe who said that they don't want "another Japan in Africa".
That is the point.

According to Abraham Lincoln, nearly every man has the capacity to withstand adversity, but if you want to know the weaknesses of a man, give him power '

The first part of this quote makes it clear that necessity is the mother of invention meaning that being inventive in a time of great need for survival is not really a mark of intelligence. In biology, we learned about the principle of adaptation which even lower and unintelligent animals practice to survive in times of existential threat and extremely harsh conditions.
The real test of Intelligence thus IQ is how inventive you are in a time of peace and comfort. This is what keeps America at the top of the world power table as America votes so much money for research and their scientists are always in the laboratory even in time of no visible external threat to their country.

Ever since after the war, what have Igbos ever been able to invent again?

onumadu:


As for Ironsi, you people didn't even allow him to stay in office for more than 6 months.
Till today, only intellectually challenged people would believe the story being bandied about Ironsi.
It is like judging Enerst Shonekan. Ironsi and Shonekan are in the same class.
Give an Igbo man 4 years (never mind 8 years) and see whether he won't transform Nigeria beyond the usual black man's level.
I don't want to get into the Ironsi story because it is the usual strategy you people use to change the subject and derail threads like this one.
You can believe whatever you want about Ironsi, and I won't argue over it.

How will you be able to get the Ironsi issue when you don't understand how important the adherence to the constitution is in genuine nation building. Ironsi tampered with a sovereign and truly people's constitution thus sparking off a constitutional crisis which consumed him and sparked off a war.
Comparing Ironsi with Shonekan is at best dubious because Shonekan was more of a figurehead civilian while Ironsi was a military despot who had raw power and authority in his hands.

Give Igbo man four years to transform Nigeria? How much have your Igbo governors been able to transform your SE Region beyond the usual black man's level for the 25 years they have ruled in the SE so far?

rdokoye:


Did Igbo people truncate Nigeria's democracy or did the military do it? The fact that they were led by an Igbo man is/was irrelevant. The military did what it felt right, to rescue the country from whatever plight they thought was enveloping the country at the time.

The actions of the coup leader is no more a reflection of Igbo people, than the countless coups that occurred afterwards, by primarily Northern military officers. I don't see anyone blaming the entirety of the North for the actions of a few opportunistic military figures. No, that treatment is only reserved for Igbo people, along with all the other rationalisations people like yourself have, for just being an outright dreadful human being.

And those military men where majorly of which tribe?
Rescue the nation from which plight? Didn't that rescuing end up in a civil war? Aren't people now of the opinion that Nigeria would have been better than it is today if that coup never happened? Why take power illegally for any excuse? The revenge coup was a Northern coup and those who carried it out don't deny that. Only you Igbos have refused to admit yours because you want to keep playing the victim card. The January 15 1966 coup is an Igbo coup because the pattern of the casualties and the eventual beneficiary revealed that there was a predetermined outcome aimed at elevating Igbos above other tribes by illegal means.

rdokoye:


Abiola had a chequered past, with ties to drug trafficking in the Americas. Obasanjo was better than that tribal champion you mentioned.

Yaradua was the only realistic candidate on the ballet, given the rotational system that was "supposedly" in motion. Though, that's all gone to crap with another Yoruba man emerging as president, and a tribal champion at that.

Abiola and drug trafficking? There is no pile of shit you lots can't cook up to rationalize your blunders.

Falae a tribal champion? Another pile of shit to defend another blunder. If anything, Obasanjo is actually the tribal champion for refusing to send soldiers to level Shagamu and Ota in his SW home when the natives murdered security men on duty after having done so in Odi and Zakibiam on the same excuse. But how would a typical Igbo man notice that when all that he is preoccupied with is sentiments?

The goal post has now shifted to 'most realistic' from the 'best'. Comedians.

How did you forget that the death of zoning started with Jonathan with you Igbos' active support? Going by the true spirit of the zoning, a Northerner was supposed to have completed Yaradua's remaining 5½ years but When Jonathan chose to violate it, it was you Igbos' voice that was loudest in arguing that zoning is not in the Nigerian constitution and that Jonathan had his fundamental right to seek office. But now that Tinubu too exercised that same right to seek office, you suddenly remember that zoning should have been adhered to because he is from an ethnic group you love to hate.

rdokoye:


Yoruba people have successfully alienated themselves. I think, EVERYONE in Nigeria is now against Yoruba people, or at the very least, don't trust a word that comes out of any of their mouths.

Still doesn't have any bearing with my comment.

Oriental4:


The election of 2023 is actually proof of the OP position that they're the most intelligent tribe in Africa. Imagine a people who saw through the Tinubu and Buhari incompetence. You rather owe Igbo an apology for low intelligence voting dragging them back. I can't laugh abeg...that you're even proud of voting Tinubu has evinced your low IQ, which is what the OP is about. So let's not derail rthe post. It's about Igbos inability to stop the colonialist unlike the Japanes. If you have a view on that please.

A high IQ people who vote for Shagari a barely educated Fulani man. The same high IQ people, at a moment as critical as independence, chose an alliance that would give power to the educationally most backward part of the country.
A high IQ people who voted for a barely educated Alhaji Bashir Tofa over Abiola a first class graduate of Accountancy from University of Glasgow Scotland in the 1993 election. A high IQ people who voted for Arthur Nzeribe twice into the Senate after the same Arthur Nzeribe helped the FG import weapons which were used to kill millions of them during the Biafra war. A high IQ people who were initially of the opinion that Peter Obi failed as governor in Anambra but suddenly began to bath him with accolades of performance when it began to appear that he was a serious contender for the post.
A high IQ people who have been voting to power as their own governors the likes of Orji Uzor Kalu, Theodore Orji, Ikpeazu (Mr. Kerosene), who all milked dry their state's purses , and worst of all whitewashed Peter Obi who invested state funds into his family business.
May God never give me that kind of IQ.

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Funny and phoney excuses. Azikiwe did all he did and said all he said in representative capacity on behalf of Igbos who elected him to the federal Parliament of those times. Else how come no single Igbo man is recorded to have publicly tackled him or moved a motion for his recall from that Parliament?
If anything, Igbos are actually the herd mentality voting tribes. Check the results of last presidential election and see that Obi won in all the states in his SE Region while voters in the regions of Atiku and Tinubu didn't overwhelmingly vote for them as they each lost at least one of the states in their home regions meaning that in such states their brothers were able to rise above ethnic considerations in making their choices. Again Igbos voted as herd for Jonathan while in all other regions it was split. Likewise for Yaradua. Please you are more needed in romance or comedy section.