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Politics / Re: How Brig. Zakari Maimalari Was Killed By His Chief Of Staff, Ifeajuna (Jan 1966) by Deadlytruth(m): 3:30pm On Dec 09, 2023 |
Irony1:Okay, what then did he mean by expressions like 'forner regions, abolished, National military government, Nigeria ceases to become what is known as a federation, etc'? This is the simple question you lots have been avoiding like a plague. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Politics / Re: How Brig. Zakari Maimalari Was Killed By His Chief Of Staff, Ifeajuna (Jan 1966) by Deadlytruth(m): 3:28pm On Dec 09, 2023 |
Irony1:Go back and read the Gamji account thoroughly to see when Okpara assisted Ifeajuna out to Ghana. The fact that you expected a public authorization from the sponsors of a coup (a top secretive plot) to the executors indicts your intelligence and strips your argument of any credibility 2 Likes 1 Share |
Politics / Re: How Brig. Zakari Maimalari Was Killed By His Chief Of Staff, Ifeajuna (Jan 1966) by Deadlytruth(m): 3:21pm On Dec 09, 2023 |
gidgiddy:Until you explain in clear and direct terms what Ironsi meant in the bolded parts of his broadcast, you will remain dishonest, escapist and revisionist in the eyes of every objective truth seeker about how Nigeria was derailed from the glorious path it set foot on at independence. But why are you finding it difficult to just address this simple question for the past ten years? 2 Likes 1 Share |
Politics / Re: How Brig. Zakari Maimalari Was Killed By His Chief Of Staff, Ifeajuna (Jan 1966) by Deadlytruth(m): 3:16pm On Dec 09, 2023 |
Irony1:So so so was to have happened, this person was to be killed, etc are all conjectures. We are establishing our evidence on what ended up happening and not what was to have happened. Evidences are not built on what could or might have happened but what actually happened. So save these stories for your gullible readers. 3 Likes |
Politics / Re: How Brig. Zakari Maimalari Was Killed By His Chief Of Staff, Ifeajuna (Jan 1966) by Deadlytruth(m): 3:00pm On Dec 09, 2023 |
Irony1: You are simply dumb. So you expected a people planning a coup, which is naturally a very secretive plot, to have publicly issued an authorization to those billed to execute it? When I say you attended a bush school I know what I am saying. Colonel Unegbe was not in the hit list prepared by the coupists so his killing or otherwise does not amount to anything in meaning. There was a hit list composed of Igbos, Yorubas, Hausas and some Niger Deltan. Unegbe's name was not among. In the execution, all the Igbos in the hit list were spared but their counterparts from other tribes were killed. There were also individuals from other tribes who were not in the hit list but killed accidentally like with Unegbe so bringing in Unegbe is meaningless. Focus on the hit list and tell us how come no Igbo in the hit list received a bullet. 2 Likes |
Politics / Re: How Brig. Zakari Maimalari Was Killed By His Chief Of Staff, Ifeajuna (Jan 1966) by Deadlytruth(m): 2:52pm On Dec 09, 2023 |
Irony1:Did I say Ohaneze as a group? So as an Igbo person you don't even understand your language? My use of Ohaneze is in the sense of Igbo generality back then not in that of what is now know officially as Ohaneze Ndigbo. What you had then was Igbo State Union (ISU) with Zik as president of it. Did Zik on behalf of ISU condemn Nzeogwu and co? Rather he was tipped off and he ran away. If it was not an Igbo agenda, then how come when Ifeajuna got to Enugu in the evening of that day and on sighting Opara whose name was on the hit list, went inside the Premier's lodge with him to have a discussion after which Michael Opara assisted him to escape to Ghana? Why didn't he stop over in Benin to kill Dennis Osadebe but drove past? From which prison was Nzeogwu released after which he went for espionage and got killed? 2 Likes |
Politics / Re: How Brig. Zakari Maimalari Was Killed By His Chief Of Staff, Ifeajuna (Jan 1966) by Deadlytruth(m): 2:45pm On Dec 09, 2023 |
gragz8701:Exactly. They always dance around questions. For good ten years now I have been asking them to explain what Ironsi meant with the bolded lines in his May 29 broadcast but no way! They keep forming new stories around Gowon as if I am asking them to explain Gowon's broadcast. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Politics / Re: How Brig. Zakari Maimalari Was Killed By His Chief Of Staff, Ifeajuna (Jan 1966) by Deadlytruth(m): 2:34pm On Dec 09, 2023 |
Irony1:If it was not an ethnic agenda, then why didn't Ohaneze issue any statement disowning it? This is basic common sense. Why did Ironsi, a fellow Igbo officer, refuse to court-martial them, but even protected them in Eastern prisons while their salaries were still being paid amidst promotions in rank. You mean Igbos viewed all these as wrong but chose to keep silent? On the contrary, silence is consent. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Politics / Re: How Brig. Zakari Maimalari Was Killed By His Chief Of Staff, Ifeajuna (Jan 1966) by Deadlytruth(m): 2:25pm On Dec 09, 2023 |
Irony1: You obviously attended a bush school where you were not taught deductive evidence. Nzeogwu himself made it clear in his interview with Ejindu that Ifeajuna and the other three majors had an ethnic agenda up their sleeves. I don't expect you to know this because you don't read. Go and read the interview of Nwaobosi granted shortly before he died recently and there you will see the authorization. 3 Likes 1 Share |
Politics / Re: How Brig. Zakari Maimalari Was Killed By His Chief Of Staff, Ifeajuna (Jan 1966) by Deadlytruth(m): 2:21pm On Dec 09, 2023 |
Irony1:Check your dictionary and see whether what Nzeogwu and Ifeajuna did was any different from the definition of ethnic cleansing. If it was not ethnic cleansing then why are you labouring so hard to separate the larger Igbo population from it? 3 Likes 1 Share |
Politics / Re: How Brig. Zakari Maimalari Was Killed By His Chief Of Staff, Ifeajuna (Jan 1966) by Deadlytruth(m): 2:19pm On Dec 09, 2023 |
Irony1: Simple common sense. You don't celebrate an evil you didn't authorize or at least sponsored. Igbos in the North celebrated in public the killings of Ahmadu Bello and innocent high ranking Northern and Yoruba officers. What greater evidence do you need that the coup was Igbo in conspiracy and execution? 2 Likes |
Politics / Re: How Brig. Zakari Maimalari Was Killed By His Chief Of Staff, Ifeajuna (Jan 1966) by Deadlytruth(m): 2:16pm On Dec 09, 2023 |
Irony1: You are an ignoramus. Have you ever heard the philosophy that: Don't start a fight you cannot finish? Those who instigated and initiated genocide and ethnic cleansing in post independence Nigeria were you Igbos and you were dealt with accordingly. That is all. 2 Likes |
Politics / Re: How Brig. Zakari Maimalari Was Killed By His Chief Of Staff, Ifeajuna (Jan 1966) by Deadlytruth(m): 2:14pm On Dec 09, 2023 |
Irony1: Show us ISU's official statement distancing themselves from Nzeogwu and co. 2 Likes |
Politics / Re: How Brig. Zakari Maimalari Was Killed By His Chief Of Staff, Ifeajuna (Jan 1966) by Deadlytruth(m): 1:53pm On Dec 09, 2023 |
Irony1:If you Igbos didn't authorize Nzeogwu and ifeajuna to carry out those mindless and senseless killings of innocent army officers and politicians, then why did those of you resident in the North then jump into the streets in celebration of the coup instead of issuing an official statement distancing yourselves from it and disowning Nzeogwu and ifeajuna? Show me any official statement from Igbo State Union back then condemning Nzeogwu and ifeajuna for the coup and senseless bloodshed. If you Igbos had no conspiracy in the killings, what stopped Ironsi for six good months from simply arraigning those five majors before a military tribunal and sentencing them to death for mutiny and delving into politics against the professional ethics of the military? You fool no one. Your question as to whether the killing of northern leaders by Nzeogwu and co justify the revenge killings of thousands of Igbo civilians show clearly that you have no knowledge of the philosophy of warfare which is that as long as the person you attacked did not dictate to you the extent of your aggression, then you too have no right to dictate to him the extent to which he may choose to retaliate. When Osama Bin Laden killed over 3,000 innocent souls through the WTC bombing, did America retaliate by killing exactly 3,000 people in the Afghanistan and Iraq which housed Osama Bin Laden? When Hamas recently launched an unprovoked attack on Israel and killed over 1000 innocent Israelites, did Israel limit its retaliation to only Hamas members or just 1000 innocent Palestinian civilians? Likewise you can't expect Northern soldiers to have limited their retaliation back then to what you wish. In war, there are no laws so the question of what is justifiable or unjustifiable does not exist. Were Nzeogwu's and co's cold blooded killings of Ahmadu Bello, Balewa, Mainalari, Okotie Eboh, etc justifiable? These were individuals who a lot of people held in high esteem in their respective home regions and after killing them so brazenly you expected their people to send you thank you cards? Where on earth does that happen? I lived in the North for ten years and by their culture , if you kill a person they regard as their leader, then you have killed all of them. Nzeogwu was born and raised in the North hence knew that yet still went ahead and killed their overall leader so gruesomely. That means he was just a foolhardy idiot. No killing of any innocent person (be he even an invalid) by anyone is justifiable. If you kill just one person, you are no less guilty than a person who killed millions. 3 Likes 1 Share |
Politics / Re: How Brig. Zakari Maimalari Was Killed By His Chief Of Staff, Ifeajuna (Jan 1966) by Deadlytruth(m): 1:46pm On Dec 09, 2023 |
Irony1:Unfortunately for you, you can't reference any post in which I even used mad let alone directed it to you. You shameless liar! Nearly everyone on Nairaland knows that I don't insult first but that whoever insults me first will have a very bad day with my retaliation. So this is how you dodged addressing Philip Asiodu's revelation? I have put it up there to dismantle your revisionist tales. Thank God he is an Igbo man and the report carried by an Igbo owned newspaper. You were hard hit by the revelation from him hence you had nothing to say other than ranting that I have shifted to Asiodu. 1 Like |
Politics / Re: How Brig. Zakari Maimalari Was Killed By His Chief Of Staff, Ifeajuna (Jan 1966) by Deadlytruth(m): 1:39pm On Dec 09, 2023 |
Irony1:How can the North apologize for the killings when you Igbos who provoked them into it by killing their most revered leaders have not apologized first? And who told you those Igbos killed in the North were innocent for recording and publicly dancing to music of Nzeogwu standing on the neck of Ahmadu Bello bleating like a goat? I can really see that you lots are moving shoulder to shoulder for languishing in Asian jails over drug trafficking and ritual killings. You are so prosperous yet your home region is like a pigsty and you therefore keep running away from it to other region. Funny. This tale of receiving 20 pounds and still rising back to prosperity is pure rubbish because those of us in the Midwest who owned accounts in the bank of Benin City robbed by the retreating Biafran soldiers were not paid back a dime by the Government till today yet Benin City has ever since then grown to become the fourth largest city in Nigeria today ahead of all the cities in the East where the people even received compensation from the government. In fact a lot of you folks ran from the East in droves to come and enjoy free Education in the Bendel State where people were not paid a Kobo for losing their savings to Biafrans like you through Ojukwu's troops looting of our banks. So shove your dirty self glorification tales up your ass. 3 Likes |
Politics / Re: How Brig. Zakari Maimalari Was Killed By His Chief Of Staff, Ifeajuna (Jan 1966) by Deadlytruth(m): 11:51am On Dec 09, 2023 |
Irony1: Here is the story in which Philip Asiodu who was an active player in the events revealed that Ojukwu confided in him that the plans of him and Ironsi was to abolish the regions within six months of taking over power and really they did. Note where the report reads: Emeka Ojukwu and myself were very good friends in school, Kings College, Lagos, and Oxford University. In fact when the coup happened, he wanted me to join him in Enugu and I told him that I was not a regional man. And Ojukwu told me ‘we shall abolish the regions within 6 months’. Mind you that it was The Sun newspaper owned by an Igbo man that carried the story hence insinuation of propaganda against Igbo by other tribes will not hold water here. https://www.google.com/amp/s/sunnewsonline.com/impunity-killing-nigeria-phillip-asiodu/%3famp 3 Likes 1 Share |
Politics / Re: How Brig. Zakari Maimalari Was Killed By His Chief Of Staff, Ifeajuna (Jan 1966) by Deadlytruth(m): 11:41am On Dec 09, 2023 |
Irony1:Look at the hypocrite who started with abusive language is calling on the mods. Hahaha! If you can't take the heat of facts and logical reasoning in a debate you better stop engaging. You don't win debates by calling people stupid, etc. Any reasonable mod who visits here and reads through the thread will discover that it was you who first used the word 'stupid' on me when you could no longer compete favourably. Even a very rare honest Igbo man, Philip Asiodu, confessed publicly that Ojukwu confided in him that he and Ironsi's ulterior motive for taking over power illegally was to abolish the regions. I will soon bring up the link. I guess you know Ironsi and Ojukwu better than Philip Asiodu. 3 Likes |
Politics / Re: How Brig. Zakari Maimalari Was Killed By His Chief Of Staff, Ifeajuna (Jan 1966) by Deadlytruth(m): 11:33am On Dec 09, 2023 |
Irony1:Who is preaching reconciliation and forgiveness as regards Igbos? Look at this comedian! What is being preached is that Igbos must apologize to the rest Nigerian ethnicities and tribes for introducing the military rule abberration, being the first to tamper with our we-the-people constitution, introducing bloodshed into an independent Nigeria through the dastardly and stupid January 1966 coup and many other things we suffer today as a result of your fathers' greed and lack political contentment. Anything short of that, it will be almost impossible for a majority of Nigerians to support Igbo presidency. You ask what has been done by the other tribes in the past fifty years about reversing Ironsi's blunder? Where were you when Obasanjo in 1978 made another Igbo man, Professor Nwabueze, the chairman of the committee charged with reviewing the fiscal policy lists in the constitutional conference of that year which would later birth the independence constitution and rather than correct the blunder Ironsi did on his advice twelve years earlier, Nwabueze further transferred an additional 50% of items from both the residual and concurrent lists to the exclusive list thus further entrenching unitary system in search of the same Azikiwe's dubious One-Nigeria only for him to, many years later again begin to mount pressure on Jonathan to convoke a confab to decentralize power and resources? That is the attitude of the average Igbo man for you? What of Obi who kept saying in his campaign that the present constitution has no fault amidst the conspiratorial silence of his fellow Igbo who ironically had been demonizing Buhari for eight years over his refusal to implement the 2014 confab report which proposed a return to the pre-Ironsi era arrangement? Hypocrites! 3 Likes 1 Share |
Politics / Re: How Brig. Zakari Maimalari Was Killed By His Chief Of Staff, Ifeajuna (Jan 1966) by Deadlytruth(m): 11:19am On Dec 09, 2023 |
Irony1:The idiot had returned to rant in defense of the blunder of his brother. Pray tell me if you would have been of the opinion today that Ironsi didn't destroy federalism if it had been a Yoruba, Hausa or even an Edo man that did exactly what Ironsi did? 3 Likes |
Politics / Re: How Brig. Zakari Maimalari Was Killed By His Chief Of Staff, Ifeajuna (Jan 1966) by Deadlytruth(m): 3:42am On Dec 09, 2023 |
Irony1:You are an idiot and a victim of moronic plague for starting an exchange of insults you can't sustain. I said it here from the beginning that it is easier for the eye of a Carmel to pass through the eye of a needle than for an average Igbo person to remain disciplined enough to participate in a debate without resorting to abusive language especially when he begins to lose the debate. Aren't I vindicated now? Idiot defending a blunder because it was committed by his brother! Shameless ethnic bigot! My only pain now is that the mods will not see it now that it was you who started with abusive language but will come and just suspend one arbitrarily. 3 Likes 1 Share |
Politics / Re: How Brig. Zakari Maimalari Was Killed By His Chief Of Staff, Ifeajuna (Jan 1966) by Deadlytruth(m): 3:38am On Dec 09, 2023 |
nku5:We have been down this road before. You uploaded Gowon's gazette without being able to point out exactly where he declared resource control dead and powers centralized unlike Ironsi 's in which it was clearly stated that the regions were abolished and the civil service unified. Gowon's state creation was a step of refederalization and a return of power to the federating units. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Politics / Re: How Brig. Zakari Maimalari Was Killed By His Chief Of Staff, Ifeajuna (Jan 1966) by Deadlytruth(m): 2:51pm On Dec 08, 2023 |
gidgiddy:You fool no one. Which line in the image you posted above says anything about resource control? Why not share Ironsi's own too and let us see if you are not hiding something 5 Likes 2 Shares |
Politics / Re: How Brig. Zakari Maimalari Was Killed By His Chief Of Staff, Ifeajuna (Jan 1966) by Deadlytruth(m): 1:36pm On Dec 08, 2023 |
gidgiddy:See how dishonest you can be? You are quick to upload Gowons decrees gazette. But you didn't think it is also appropriate to upload Ironsi's own so that an unbiased reader can know both sides of the story and from an informed position judge who between Gowon and Ironsi introduced unitary system and first tampered with the regional system. 5 Likes 2 Shares |
Politics / Re: How Brig. Zakari Maimalari Was Killed By His Chief Of Staff, Ifeajuna (Jan 1966) by Deadlytruth(m): 1:33pm On Dec 08, 2023 |
gidgiddy:We have been down this road before. The questions you continue to dodge are what did Ironsi mean by 'the following in his may 27 1966 broadcast: 1. The regions are abolished and Nigeria broken down to provinces 2. Nigeria ceases to be what is known as a federation 3. Civil servants of the former regions are now to see themselves as serving the country and not their regions 4. All governors of the groups of provinces are to report to the center henceforth. 5. This arrangement is without prejudice to the new constitution to be drafted. Item five is the clearest evidence that Ironsi had a deliberate intention to drive Nigeria further in the unitary direction and permanently. Now tell us what Ironsi meant with all these unequivocal declarations? 4 Likes 2 Shares |
Politics / Re: Biafra Madness, Stay Away From Us!! by Deadlytruth(m): 1:10pm On Dec 08, 2023 |
Mbanda:But surprisingly, the Itsekiris whom Biafra agitators like you suggest that the referendum will cover are basically Yorubas and they don't deny their Yoruba ancestry and don't have any known common boundary with Igbos. Likewise, most non-Igbo tribes of the SS share no common boundaries with Igbos nor do dey have same value system as Igbos. In fact where I come from in the SS is such that our value system orientation gives us a culture shock whenever we experience Igbos display their value system on first hand basis. To be more specific, during my NYSC years in the North, I did my primary assignment in the same place as one fellow corper from Akwa Ibom State and an Ibibio. We shared the same apartment. There were these two Igbo female fellow corpers whom both of us were just casual friends with due to proximity of residences. One day I went to market to buy a shirt and on getting back home I met these two Igbo girls on a visit to us and once I showed them the shirt, both of them expressed surprise that I went to market to buy only one shirt at a time Christmas was approaching and all corpers were preparing to travel home. When I asked them what was wrong about that, they laughed at me and explained that they have each bought fourteen different dresses for the two weeks they would be spending at home because in Igbo land the tradition is that as a diasporan on a visit back home, you wear a new dress each day till you return to base and that if you repeat a particular dress while at home you would be perceived as not doing well where you are. I was shocked at that kind of value system and that immediately killed the feelings of love I had begun to develop for one of them. Then I explained that in my own place no one cares what you wear or how rich or poor you have become but only care that you came back home alive and in good health to see them and that's all. The Ibibio guy said exactly same about his people. And that is the general value system in majority of SS ethnic groups. So what value system similarities are you talking about between SS people and Igbos? 2 Likes 1 Share |
Investment / Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by Deadlytruth(m): 11:46am On Dec 08, 2023 |
MrEja:Has multiverse management given any dividend too? I am at loss as to your claim that Japaul has not recorded capital appreciation all these years. Only if you know it has delivered over 1500% capital appreciation from early last year to this time. Anyway Japaul is for traders and not for investors to warrant looking out for its management's seriousness or otherwise. 3 Likes |
Politics / Re: How Brig. Zakari Maimalari Was Killed By His Chief Of Staff, Ifeajuna (Jan 1966) by Deadlytruth(m): 11:34am On Dec 08, 2023 |
Irony1:You are the stupid one for defending Ironsi just because he is a fellow Igbo like you. Your likes would have been arguing today that Ironsi's action was tantamount to destroying true federalism and regional system had Ironsi been a Yoruba man or an Edo man or even an Ijaw man. 6 Likes 2 Shares |
Politics / Re: Biafra Madness, Stay Away From Us!! by Deadlytruth(m): 11:30am On Dec 08, 2023 |
Mbanda:Why this focus on Niger Delta alone regarding this referendum? Are there not even some Yorubas who wish they could be part of Biafra and have publicly spoken in defense of Biafra and Kanu? Why not also argue that the referendum should be extended to Yorubas and indeed every part of Nigeria as there resides among other regions at least some Biafra sympathizers and supporters even more than the Niger Delta? 1 Like |
Politics / Re: Biafra Madness, Stay Away From Us!! by Deadlytruth(m): 7:44pm On Dec 06, 2023 |
Mbanda:The most important consideration in the composition of any group is the freewill choice of the proposed members. Pakistan was once part of India but with time they exercised their freewill to separate from India. Likewise some states in the US today weren't originally part of the union but later they exercised their freewill to join the union. Back in the days, the present Edo and Delta States together with the western parts of the present Bayelsa State were all part of the Western Region but they later exercised their freewill to separate from it. Therefore the fact that some states of the present SS were once together in the SE Region doesn't automatically deny them the freewill and freedom of choice to choose another political group they may now love to belong. They have repeatedly made themselves clear that they are not interested in Biafra and that they were never collectively interested in it. 2 Likes |
Education / Re: The Cruelty Of Most School Owners by Deadlytruth(m): 11:40am On Dec 06, 2023 |
Your most viable options are: 1. As a person who can teach Mathematics, Further Mathematics and Physics, you are a very hot cake and even though private schools managements in Nigeria are generally mean, there are still few out there that are reasonable enough to appreciate you for these subjects and never play with your occupational welfare. So look out for another school. But it is important that when you are in the process of searching for another school, you don't present yourself as desperately looking for that job as that is usually the foundation of the disdain and ill treatment you will later get from the management. 2. Find a way to be self employed. Going by my own personal experience, I can boldly say that your residing in Lagos is already an advantage in regard to this because Lagos is practically the only city in Nigeria where your skills sell fast especially if you are excellent in those skills. 2. 3 Likes |
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