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Politics / Re: How Brig. Zakari Maimalari Was Killed By His Chief Of Staff, Ifeajuna (Jan 1966) by Deadlytruth(m): 3:30pm On Dec 09, 2023
Irony1:


Oga it is clear and the fact is clear Ironsi didn't abolish the regions Gowon did and stop all this. You cannot win this argument.
Okay, what then did he mean by expressions like 'forner regions, abolished, National military government, Nigeria ceases to become what is known as a federation, etc'? This is the simple question you lots have been avoiding like a plague.

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Politics / Re: How Brig. Zakari Maimalari Was Killed By His Chief Of Staff, Ifeajuna (Jan 1966) by Deadlytruth(m): 3:28pm On Dec 09, 2023
Irony1:


Ohhhh my God another lie from you again see the excerpts from Gamji on the aftermath of the coup

"Virtually all the principal plotters were arrested, including Ifeajuna who had fled across the border under disguise and ended up in Ghana where he was welcomed by President Kwame Nkrumah, a formidable ideological foe of Balewa. The military who overthrew Nkrumah extradited Ifeajuna to Nigeria in March 1966"

Ifeajuna never went to Enugu to see Okpara. In fact according to Achebe's book, Madiebo's book and Obasanjo's book on nzeogwu. Ifeajuna was helped to the border by Christopher Okigbo, who was his friend from his days in University of Ibadan Okpara never assisted Ifeajuna to escape to Ghana.
Go back and read the Gamji account thoroughly to see when Okpara assisted Ifeajuna out to Ghana.
The fact that you expected a public authorization from the sponsors of a coup (a top secretive plot) to the executors indicts your intelligence and strips your argument of any credibility

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Politics / Re: How Brig. Zakari Maimalari Was Killed By His Chief Of Staff, Ifeajuna (Jan 1966) by Deadlytruth(m): 3:21pm On Dec 09, 2023
gidgiddy:


That guy is a funny individual. Every few months he will create a thread and say it was Ironsi that abolished the Regions with decree 34, a civil service decree. When shown irrefutable evidence that Gowon abolished all 4 Regions and created 12 states, with Decree 14, he will start talking about a broadcast Ironsi is purported to have made

When shown decree 15 where Gowon removed resource by removing section 141 and 164 of the constitution, down to the amount he would pay the 12 states he created, the person will start talking nonsense

Craze dey worry some people grin grin grin grin
Until you explain in clear and direct terms what Ironsi meant in the bolded parts of his broadcast, you will remain dishonest, escapist and revisionist in the eyes of every objective truth seeker about how Nigeria was derailed from the glorious path it set foot on at independence. But why are you finding it difficult to just address this simple question for the past ten years?

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Politics / Re: How Brig. Zakari Maimalari Was Killed By His Chief Of Staff, Ifeajuna (Jan 1966) by Deadlytruth(m): 3:16pm On Dec 09, 2023
Irony1:


😆 🤣 😂 ohhh you are character, your desperation to spread lies is not making you think properly. Someone who was a quartermaster general of the army and a close friend of Maimalari of which if he was spared would have rallied troop to crush the coup hence Col Arthur Unegbe and other battalion commander were marked for death, even Ojukwu was marked to be taken out by Nzeogwu so that they would have control over 5th battalion Kano.
So so so was to have happened, this person was to be killed, etc are all conjectures. We are establishing our evidence on what ended up happening and not what was to have happened.
Evidences are not built on what could or might have happened but what actually happened. So save these stories for your gullible readers.

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Politics / Re: How Brig. Zakari Maimalari Was Killed By His Chief Of Staff, Ifeajuna (Jan 1966) by Deadlytruth(m): 3:00pm On Dec 09, 2023
Irony1:


Oga I am still on you, you cannot escape this one. Show us here the authorisation statement from igbos ordering Nzeogwu and ifeajuna to kill. Also what tribe was Col Arthur Unegbe from?

You are simply dumb. So you expected a people planning a coup, which is naturally a very secretive plot, to have publicly issued an authorization to those billed to execute it? When I say you attended a bush school I know what I am saying.
Colonel Unegbe was not in the hit list prepared by the coupists so his killing or otherwise does not amount to anything in meaning. There was a hit list composed of Igbos, Yorubas, Hausas and some Niger Deltan. Unegbe's name was not among. In the execution, all the Igbos in the hit list were spared but their counterparts from other tribes were killed. There were also individuals from other tribes who were not in the hit list but killed accidentally like with Unegbe so bringing in Unegbe is meaningless. Focus on the hit list and tell us how come no Igbo in the hit list received a bullet.

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Politics / Re: How Brig. Zakari Maimalari Was Killed By His Chief Of Staff, Ifeajuna (Jan 1966) by Deadlytruth(m): 2:52pm On Dec 09, 2023
Irony1:


grin grin grin it is so obvious that you have lost it. When was Ohaneze founded? Was it after the civil war or before the civil war? Even saying that Nzeogwu and co were in eastern prisons was a lie. Anuforo was in Benin prisons, so you see where your lie has been busted. I say it again you are so desperate to push the agenda and you are frustrated that it is not working. Oga show me the authorisation given to Nzeogwu and Ifeajuna to kill. This is simple just show us
Did I say Ohaneze as a group? So as an Igbo person you don't even understand your language? My use of Ohaneze is in the sense of Igbo generality back then not in that of what is now know officially as Ohaneze Ndigbo. What you had then was Igbo State Union (ISU) with Zik as president of it. Did Zik on behalf of ISU condemn Nzeogwu and co? Rather he was tipped off and he ran away. If it was not an Igbo agenda, then how come when Ifeajuna got to Enugu in the evening of that day and on sighting Opara whose name was on the hit list, went inside the Premier's lodge with him to have a discussion after which Michael Opara assisted him to escape to Ghana? Why didn't he stop over in Benin to kill Dennis Osadebe but drove past? From which prison was Nzeogwu released after which he went for espionage and got killed?

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Politics / Re: How Brig. Zakari Maimalari Was Killed By His Chief Of Staff, Ifeajuna (Jan 1966) by Deadlytruth(m): 2:45pm On Dec 09, 2023
gragz8701:


Nice one. You argue with fact and objectivity. You're among the few that know the story very well.

Notice that they are currently all over the Internet rewriting history and mis-educating the young generation to suit their narrative and agenda.
Exactly. They always dance around questions. For good ten years now I have been asking them to explain what Ironsi meant with the bolded lines in his May 29 broadcast but no way! They keep forming new stories around Gowon as if I am asking them to explain Gowon's broadcast.

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Politics / Re: How Brig. Zakari Maimalari Was Killed By His Chief Of Staff, Ifeajuna (Jan 1966) by Deadlytruth(m): 2:34pm On Dec 09, 2023
Irony1:


Ethnic agenda is different from personal agenda, now I want you to tell me if truly it was ethnic agenda where is the authorisation given to Ifeajuna and Nzeogwu to carry out the killings. You are just everywhere and not making any sense

If it was not an ethnic agenda, then why didn't Ohaneze issue any statement disowning it? This is basic common sense. Why did Ironsi, a fellow Igbo officer, refuse to court-martial them, but even protected them in Eastern prisons while their salaries were still being paid amidst promotions in rank. You mean Igbos viewed all these as wrong but chose to keep silent? On the contrary, silence is consent.

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Politics / Re: How Brig. Zakari Maimalari Was Killed By His Chief Of Staff, Ifeajuna (Jan 1966) by Deadlytruth(m): 2:25pm On Dec 09, 2023
Irony1:


Oga did they authorise the killings it is very simple, just show us the authorisation statement. You are not smart walahi.

You obviously attended a bush school where you were not taught deductive evidence.

Nzeogwu himself made it clear in his interview with Ejindu that Ifeajuna and the other three majors had an ethnic agenda up their sleeves. I don't expect you to know this because you don't read. Go and read the interview of Nwaobosi granted shortly before he died recently and there you will see the authorization.

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Politics / Re: How Brig. Zakari Maimalari Was Killed By His Chief Of Staff, Ifeajuna (Jan 1966) by Deadlytruth(m): 2:21pm On Dec 09, 2023
Irony1:


Oga do you really know what ethnic cleansing is? Dude you are frustrated because all your replies have been with insults directed at me. You are really desperate and frustrated. Go and get a job and a life, stop being bitter and filled with inferiority complex.
Check your dictionary and see whether what Nzeogwu and Ifeajuna did was any different from the definition of ethnic cleansing. If it was not ethnic cleansing then why are you labouring so hard to separate the larger Igbo population from it?

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Politics / Re: How Brig. Zakari Maimalari Was Killed By His Chief Of Staff, Ifeajuna (Jan 1966) by Deadlytruth(m): 2:19pm On Dec 09, 2023
Irony1:


I asked you first. Be courageous enough to show us where igbos authorized Ifeajuna and Nzeogwu to kill.

Simple common sense. You don't celebrate an evil you didn't authorize or at least sponsored. Igbos in the North celebrated in public the killings of Ahmadu Bello and innocent high ranking Northern and Yoruba officers. What greater evidence do you need that the coup was Igbo in conspiracy and execution?

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Politics / Re: How Brig. Zakari Maimalari Was Killed By His Chief Of Staff, Ifeajuna (Jan 1966) by Deadlytruth(m): 2:16pm On Dec 09, 2023
Irony1:


Oga go back and read our comments you will see where you started this insults. Philip Asiodu's comment mean nothing and it doesn't clarify anything, it just shows how desperate you are and incompetent in making your point. My point is clear and that is what frustrates you.
My guy just an advice to you, let it go, learn from the boys that instigated the Rwandan genocide and how they were dealt with, because what you are doing is similar to what they did and they were either executed or jailed for life.
Go and get a meaningful job and be useful to your family.

You are an ignoramus. Have you ever heard the philosophy that: Don't start a fight you cannot finish? Those who instigated and initiated genocide and ethnic cleansing in post independence Nigeria were you Igbos and you were dealt with accordingly. That is all.

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Politics / Re: How Brig. Zakari Maimalari Was Killed By His Chief Of Staff, Ifeajuna (Jan 1966) by Deadlytruth(m): 2:14pm On Dec 09, 2023
Irony1:


Show us where igbos authorised Nzeogwu and Ifeajuna to kill. This is a very simple task and you are busy trying to form smart.

Show us ISU's official statement distancing themselves from Nzeogwu and co.

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Politics / Re: How Brig. Zakari Maimalari Was Killed By His Chief Of Staff, Ifeajuna (Jan 1966) by Deadlytruth(m): 1:53pm On Dec 09, 2023
Irony1:


Please show me where igbos authorised Nzeogwu and Ifeajuna to kill. And I ask you again doesn't this justify the killing of thousands of innocent people? Guy this comment of yours was what nailed one of the perpetrators of the Rwandan genocide, so be very careful because your identity can easily be revealed and you can arrested. Watch the nonsense you say so that you don't languish in jail
If you Igbos didn't authorize Nzeogwu and ifeajuna to carry out those mindless and senseless killings of innocent army officers and politicians, then why did those of you resident in the North then jump into the streets in celebration of the coup instead of issuing an official statement distancing yourselves from it and disowning Nzeogwu and ifeajuna? Show me any official statement from Igbo State Union back then condemning Nzeogwu and ifeajuna for the coup and senseless bloodshed. If you Igbos had no conspiracy in the killings, what stopped Ironsi for six good months from simply arraigning those five majors before a military tribunal and sentencing them to death for mutiny and delving into politics against the professional ethics of the military? You fool no one.

Your question as to whether the killing of northern leaders by Nzeogwu and co justify the revenge killings of thousands of Igbo civilians show clearly that you have no knowledge of the philosophy of warfare which is that as long as the person you attacked did not dictate to you the extent of your aggression, then you too have no right to dictate to him the extent to which he may choose to retaliate.
When Osama Bin Laden killed over 3,000 innocent souls through the WTC bombing, did America retaliate by killing exactly 3,000 people in the Afghanistan and Iraq which housed Osama Bin Laden?
When Hamas recently launched an unprovoked attack on Israel and killed over 1000 innocent Israelites, did Israel limit its retaliation to only Hamas members or just 1000 innocent Palestinian civilians?
Likewise you can't expect Northern soldiers to have limited their retaliation back then to what you wish. In war, there are no laws so the question of what is justifiable or unjustifiable does not exist. Were Nzeogwu's and co's cold blooded killings of Ahmadu Bello, Balewa, Mainalari, Okotie Eboh, etc justifiable? These were individuals who a lot of people held in high esteem in their respective home regions and after killing them so brazenly you expected their people to send you thank you cards? Where on earth does that happen?
I lived in the North for ten years and by their culture , if you kill a person they regard as their leader, then you have killed all of them. Nzeogwu was born and raised in the North hence knew that yet still went ahead and killed their overall leader so gruesomely. That means he was just a foolhardy idiot.
No killing of any innocent person (be he even an invalid) by anyone is justifiable. If you kill just one person, you are no less guilty than a person who killed millions.

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Politics / Re: How Brig. Zakari Maimalari Was Killed By His Chief Of Staff, Ifeajuna (Jan 1966) by Deadlytruth(m): 1:46pm On Dec 09, 2023
Irony1:


See go back and check who started the insults as if it is not you. You called me mad then later dalled me idiot and you are saying I started the insults first.
Anyway what do I expect from a career hypocrite. Now you have shifted to Philip Asiodu, just because you have been boxed in and you cannot force this stale narrative again. Thank God for social media, as all these lies have been exposed. Once again you are a frustrated man, go and do something meaningful with your life and stop spreading tribal hate because one day you will be arrested and made to clarify all these tribalist statements.
Unfortunately for you, you can't reference any post in which I even used mad let alone directed it to you. You shameless liar! Nearly everyone on Nairaland knows that I don't insult first but that whoever insults me first will have a very bad day with my retaliation.

So this is how you dodged addressing Philip Asiodu's revelation? I have put it up there to dismantle your revisionist tales. Thank God he is an Igbo man and the report carried by an Igbo owned newspaper. You were hard hit by the revelation from him hence you had nothing to say other than ranting that I have shifted to Asiodu.

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Politics / Re: How Brig. Zakari Maimalari Was Killed By His Chief Of Staff, Ifeajuna (Jan 1966) by Deadlytruth(m): 1:39pm On Dec 09, 2023
Irony1:


Now I know you are frustrated person, I will not descend to your level of insults, because it is clear between two of us who the bigot is, and it is clearly you. Your pain is that the igbos are still moving on shoulder high despite a war and being relegated after the war. Shebi you go them to lose the war, they lost everything after the war and got only £20 is that not enough for you? You are so bitter and full of hate that you can't stand the mention of igbos, you are pained that they are not beggars, you say they should apologise, apologise for what? Did I tell Ifeajuna to kill Balewa? Did the igbos reach a consensus to tell Nzeogwu to kill? Again apologies go both ways, then the north should also apologise for the innocents they killed in the programs then it is balanced.
How can the North apologize for the killings when you Igbos who provoked them into it by killing their most revered leaders have not apologized first? And who told you those Igbos killed in the North were innocent for recording and publicly dancing to music of Nzeogwu standing on the neck of Ahmadu Bello bleating like a goat?

I can really see that you lots are moving shoulder to shoulder for languishing in Asian jails over drug trafficking and ritual killings. You are so prosperous yet your home region is like a pigsty and you therefore keep running away from it to other region. Funny. This tale of receiving 20 pounds and still rising back to prosperity is pure rubbish because those of us in the Midwest who owned accounts in the bank of Benin City robbed by the retreating Biafran soldiers were not paid back a dime by the Government till today yet Benin City has ever since then grown to become the fourth largest city in Nigeria today ahead of all the cities in the East where the people even received compensation from the government. In fact a lot of you folks ran from the East in droves to come and enjoy free Education in the Bendel State where people were not paid a Kobo for losing their savings to Biafrans like you through Ojukwu's troops looting of our banks. So shove your dirty self glorification tales up your ass.

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Politics / Re: How Brig. Zakari Maimalari Was Killed By His Chief Of Staff, Ifeajuna (Jan 1966) by Deadlytruth(m): 11:51am On Dec 09, 2023
Irony1:


I tell you I would make the same case if Ironsi were Yoruba or any other tribe. You problem is that you think I am a bigot and a miserable person like you who lack manners and discipline.
Once again I would report you to the mods so that you are banned again, then you will have discipline. Frustrated soul.


Mynd44, Obinoscopy, Seun, Dominique, NLPolicewoman, Rule 2 violation " he called me an idiot"


Here is the story in which Philip Asiodu who was an active player in the events revealed that Ojukwu confided in him that the plans of him and Ironsi was to abolish the regions within six months of taking over power and really they did.

Note where the report reads:

Emeka Ojukwu and myself were very good friends in school, Kings College, Lagos, and Oxford University. In fact when the coup happened, he wanted me to join him in Enugu and I told him that I was not a regional man. And Ojukwu told me ‘we shall abolish the regions within 6 months’.

Mind you that it was The Sun newspaper owned by an Igbo man that carried the story hence insinuation of propaganda against Igbo by other tribes will not hold water here.


https://www.google.com/amp/s/sunnewsonline.com/impunity-killing-nigeria-phillip-asiodu/%3famp

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Politics / Re: How Brig. Zakari Maimalari Was Killed By His Chief Of Staff, Ifeajuna (Jan 1966) by Deadlytruth(m): 11:41am On Dec 09, 2023
Irony1:


I tell you I would make the same case if Ironsi were Yoruba or any other tribe. You problem is that you think I am a bigot and a miserable person like you who lack manners and discipline.
Once again I would report you to the mods so that you are banned again, then you will have discipline. Frustrated soul.

Mynd44, Obinoscopy, Seun, Dominique, NLPolicewoman, Rule 2 violation " he called me an idiot"

Look at the hypocrite who started with abusive language is calling on the mods. Hahaha! If you can't take the heat of facts and logical reasoning in a debate you better stop engaging.
You don't win debates by calling people stupid, etc. Any reasonable mod who visits here and reads through the thread will discover that it was you who first used the word 'stupid' on me when you could no longer compete favourably.
Even a very rare honest Igbo man, Philip Asiodu, confessed publicly that Ojukwu confided in him that he and Ironsi's ulterior motive for taking over power illegally was to abolish the regions. I will soon bring up the link. I guess you know Ironsi and Ojukwu better than Philip Asiodu.

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Politics / Re: How Brig. Zakari Maimalari Was Killed By His Chief Of Staff, Ifeajuna (Jan 1966) by Deadlytruth(m): 11:33am On Dec 09, 2023
Irony1:


Oga it is a lie. Gowon actually removed resource control in decree 8 where he also abolished regions and in place created states. Guy go and rest your plan is dead and besides, what is your plan for bringing up something that happened more than 50 years against a people right now. Is it that your tribe are blameless? Why is it that once it comes to election time once an Igbo man comes to contest bigots like you will resurrect this same case, but at the same time you preach reconciliation and forgiveness but cannot seem to want to twist and attack igbos for 1966 when in hindsight Ironsi never abolished regions.
Who is preaching reconciliation and forgiveness as regards Igbos? Look at this comedian! What is being preached is that Igbos must apologize to the rest Nigerian ethnicities and tribes for introducing the military rule abberration, being the first to tamper with our we-the-people constitution, introducing bloodshed into an independent Nigeria through the dastardly and stupid January 1966 coup and many other things we suffer today as a result of your fathers' greed and lack political contentment. Anything short of that, it will be almost impossible for a majority of Nigerians to support Igbo presidency. You ask what has been done by the other tribes in the past fifty years about reversing Ironsi's blunder? Where were you when Obasanjo in 1978 made another Igbo man, Professor Nwabueze, the chairman of the committee charged with reviewing the fiscal policy lists in the constitutional conference of that year which would later birth the independence constitution and rather than correct the blunder Ironsi did on his advice twelve years earlier, Nwabueze further transferred an additional 50% of items from both the residual and concurrent lists to the exclusive list thus further entrenching unitary system in search of the same Azikiwe's dubious One-Nigeria only for him to, many years later again begin to mount pressure on Jonathan to convoke a confab to decentralize power and resources? That is the attitude of the average Igbo man for you? What of Obi who kept saying in his campaign that the present constitution has no fault amidst the conspiratorial silence of his fellow Igbo who ironically had been demonizing Buhari for eight years over his refusal to implement the 2014 confab report which proposed a return to the pre-Ironsi era arrangement? Hypocrites!

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Politics / Re: How Brig. Zakari Maimalari Was Killed By His Chief Of Staff, Ifeajuna (Jan 1966) by Deadlytruth(m): 11:19am On Dec 09, 2023
Irony1:


Oga it is a lie. Gowon actually removed resource control in decree 8 where he also abolished regions and in place created states. Guy go and rest your plan is dead and besides, what is your plan for bringing up something that happened more than 50 years against a people right now. Is it that your tribe are blameless? Why is it that once it comes to election time once an Igbo man comes to contest bigots like you will resurrect this same case, but at the same time you preach reconciliation and forgiveness but cannot seem to want to twist and attack igbos for 1966 when in hindsight Ironsi never abolished regions.
The idiot had returned to rant in defense of the blunder of his brother. Pray tell me if you would have been of the opinion today that Ironsi didn't destroy federalism if it had been a Yoruba, Hausa or even an Edo man that did exactly what Ironsi did?

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Politics / Re: How Brig. Zakari Maimalari Was Killed By His Chief Of Staff, Ifeajuna (Jan 1966) by Deadlytruth(m): 3:42am On Dec 09, 2023
Irony1:


You are mad for saying this nonsense. Ironsi I repeat did not abolish the regions it was Gowon that did, if you don't like it go and drink sniper or look for better ways to kick yourself. Thanks God for social media some lies are now being challenged, even if he was Yoruba or Igbo it will not change what I am just saying right now to you. I can argue this all year with you and my stand will not change Gowon abolished regions and not Ironsi... ... QED
You are an idiot and a victim of moronic plague for starting an exchange of insults you can't sustain. I said it here from the beginning that it is easier for the eye of a Carmel to pass through the eye of a needle than for an average Igbo person to remain disciplined enough to participate in a debate without resorting to abusive language especially when he begins to lose the debate. Aren't I vindicated now? Idiot defending a blunder because it was committed by his brother! Shameless ethnic bigot!
My only pain now is that the mods will not see it now that it was you who started with abusive language but will come and just suspend one arbitrarily.

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Politics / Re: How Brig. Zakari Maimalari Was Killed By His Chief Of Staff, Ifeajuna (Jan 1966) by Deadlytruth(m): 3:38am On Dec 09, 2023
nku5:


Ironsi abolished regionalism but had regional governors and retained resource control as he met it. Gowon is you people's god for making Awo his PA despite him abolishing the regions, creating states and ending resource control. Propaganda and tribalism has eaten away at you people's logical reasoning.
We have been down this road before. You uploaded Gowon's gazette without being able to point out exactly where he declared resource control dead and powers centralized unlike Ironsi 's in which it was clearly stated that the regions were abolished and the civil service unified. Gowon's state creation was a step of refederalization and a return of power to the federating units.

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Politics / Re: How Brig. Zakari Maimalari Was Killed By His Chief Of Staff, Ifeajuna (Jan 1966) by Deadlytruth(m): 2:51pm On Dec 08, 2023
gidgiddy:


You guys are funny. You have Gowons decree 14 and 15 in black and white to show you that it was Gowon that abolished the 4 Regions and took away resource control, but gou want to rely on a broadcast as your own evidence. Well, a broadcast cannot be used to abolish Regions, it can only be done by decree. Show us any decree Ironsi promulgated that abolished Regions like Gowons decree 14 and 15

Even when the evidence is there, someone is talking about broadcast
You fool no one. Which line in the image you posted above says anything about resource control? Why not share Ironsi's own too and let us see if you are not hiding something

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Politics / Re: How Brig. Zakari Maimalari Was Killed By His Chief Of Staff, Ifeajuna (Jan 1966) by Deadlytruth(m): 1:36pm On Dec 08, 2023
gidgiddy:


You guys like to talk nonsense and lies about Ironsi, spreading the falsehood that he was the one who destroyed the Regionalism and federalism even though all 4 Regions existed and enjoyed resource control under Ironsi

You people even took Decree 34, a simple civil service decree, and turned it on its head just to implicate Ironsi

The thing you people never understood is that this is the age of social media where lies and falsehoods are easily debunked.

Gowon was the person who abolished all 4 Regions and replaced them with 12 unitary states, using decree 14, then removed resource control with decree 15

If Ironsi had already abolished Regions and taken away resource control, would Gowon need to come and do it again? Of course not, shows Ironsi did nothing other than military rule.

So you guys can keep lying against Ironsi because he was an Igbo man, but Gowons decree 14 and 15 below, will always tell people the truth
See how dishonest you can be? You are quick to upload Gowons decrees gazette. But you didn't think it is also appropriate to upload Ironsi's own so that an unbiased reader can know both sides of the story and from an informed position judge who between Gowon and Ironsi introduced unitary system and first tampered with the regional system.

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Politics / Re: How Brig. Zakari Maimalari Was Killed By His Chief Of Staff, Ifeajuna (Jan 1966) by Deadlytruth(m): 1:33pm On Dec 08, 2023
gidgiddy:


You guys like to talk nonsense and lies about Ironsi, spreading the falsehood that he was the one who destroyed the Regionalism and federalism even though all 4 Regions existed and enjoyed resource control under Ironsi

You people even took Decree 34, a simple civil service decree, and turned it on its head just to implicate Ironsi

The thing you people never understood is that this is the age of social media where lies and falsehoods are easily debunked.

Gowon was the person who abolished all 4 Regions and replaced them with 12 unitary states, using decree 14, then removed resource control with decree 15

If Ironsi had already abolished Regions and taken away resource control, would Gowon need to come and do it again? Of course not, shows Ironsi did nothing other than military rule.

So you guys can keep lying against Ironsi because he was an Igbo man, but Gowons decree 14 and 15 below, will always tell people the truth
We have been down this road before. The questions you continue to dodge are what did Ironsi mean by 'the following in his may 27 1966 broadcast:

1. The regions are abolished and Nigeria broken down to provinces
2. Nigeria ceases to be what is known as a federation
3. Civil servants of the former regions are now to see themselves as serving the country and not their regions
4. All governors of the groups of provinces are to report to the center henceforth.
5. This arrangement is without prejudice to the new constitution to be drafted.

Item five is the clearest evidence that Ironsi had a deliberate intention to drive Nigeria further in the unitary direction and permanently.

Now tell us what Ironsi meant with all these unequivocal declarations?

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Politics / Re: Biafra Madness, Stay Away From Us!! by Deadlytruth(m): 1:10pm On Dec 08, 2023
Mbanda:
Do yorubas have common boundaries with Igbos? I guess the answer is NO!
Do yorubas have anything in common with the Igbos? NO!
Do yorubas have the same value system with the Igbo? NO!
Do yorubas love Igbos? NO!

These are the reason why Igbos can never champion anything positive with the yorubas.
But surprisingly, the Itsekiris whom Biafra agitators like you suggest that the referendum will cover are basically Yorubas and they don't deny their Yoruba ancestry and don't have any known common boundary with Igbos. Likewise, most non-Igbo tribes of the SS share no common boundaries with Igbos nor do dey have same value system as Igbos. In fact where I come from in the SS is such that our value system orientation gives us a culture shock whenever we experience Igbos display their value system on first hand basis. To be more specific, during my NYSC years in the North, I did my primary assignment in the same place as one fellow corper from Akwa Ibom State and an Ibibio. We shared the same apartment. There were these two Igbo female fellow corpers whom both of us were just casual friends with due to proximity of residences. One day I went to market to buy a shirt and on getting back home I met these two Igbo girls on a visit to us and once I showed them the shirt, both of them expressed surprise that I went to market to buy only one shirt at a time Christmas was approaching and all corpers were preparing to travel home. When I asked them what was wrong about that, they laughed at me and explained that they have each bought fourteen different dresses for the two weeks they would be spending at home because in Igbo land the tradition is that as a diasporan on a visit back home, you wear a new dress each day till you return to base and that if you repeat a particular dress while at home you would be perceived as not doing well where you are. I was shocked at that kind of value system and that immediately killed the feelings of love I had begun to develop for one of them. Then I explained that in my own place no one cares what you wear or how rich or poor you have become but only care that you came back home alive and in good health to see them and that's all. The Ibibio guy said exactly same about his people. And that is the general value system in majority of SS ethnic groups. So what value system similarities are you talking about between SS people and Igbos?

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Investment / Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by Deadlytruth(m): 11:46am On Dec 08, 2023
MrEja:


japaul mgt no serious, all these years, what dividend have they given there investors? no dividends, no capital appreciation..
Has multiverse management given any dividend too? I am at loss as to your claim that Japaul has not recorded capital appreciation all these years. Only if you know it has delivered over 1500% capital appreciation from early last year to this time. Anyway Japaul is for traders and not for investors to warrant looking out for its management's seriousness or otherwise.

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Politics / Re: How Brig. Zakari Maimalari Was Killed By His Chief Of Staff, Ifeajuna (Jan 1966) by Deadlytruth(m): 11:34am On Dec 08, 2023
Irony1:


Oga we can do this all day, but your plans have failed woefully. Gowon and not Ironsi is to blame for removing the regions. Abeg stop this stupidity and run along. You are talking of naked truth, Naked truth has been staring at you, and you refused to comprehend. Dude just rest you cannot win this one.
You are the stupid one for defending Ironsi just because he is a fellow Igbo like you. Your likes would have been arguing today that Ironsi's action was tantamount to destroying true federalism and regional system had Ironsi been a Yoruba man or an Edo man or even an Ijaw man.

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Politics / Re: Biafra Madness, Stay Away From Us!! by Deadlytruth(m): 11:30am On Dec 08, 2023
Mbanda:
That is the reason why, IP0B is much interested in referendum.
Referendum is the only thing that can represent the choice of a commoner in SS. And that is the only way we will know, if yorubas are actually the ones claiming "we niger delta" in all the social media platforms.
Why this focus on Niger Delta alone regarding this referendum? Are there not even some Yorubas who wish they could be part of Biafra and have publicly spoken in defense of Biafra and Kanu? Why not also argue that the referendum should be extended to Yorubas and indeed every part of Nigeria as there resides among other regions at least some Biafra sympathizers and supporters even more than the Niger Delta?

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Politics / Re: Biafra Madness, Stay Away From Us!! by Deadlytruth(m): 7:44pm On Dec 06, 2023
Mbanda:
North central is not the issue at hand. The name biafra is in the caption of this thread and that is where SS comes in, not north central. If you want me to comment on the issue of north central, you have to open a thread for that.
The most important consideration in the composition of any group is the freewill choice of the proposed members. Pakistan was once part of India but with time they exercised their freewill to separate from India. Likewise some states in the US today weren't originally part of the union but later they exercised their freewill to join the union. Back in the days, the present Edo and Delta States together with the western parts of the present Bayelsa State were all part of the Western Region but they later exercised their freewill to separate from it. Therefore the fact that some states of the present SS were once together in the SE Region doesn't automatically deny them the freewill and freedom of choice to choose another political group they may now love to belong. They have repeatedly made themselves clear that they are not interested in Biafra and that they were never collectively interested in it.

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Education / Re: The Cruelty Of Most School Owners by Deadlytruth(m): 11:40am On Dec 06, 2023
Your most viable options are:
1. As a person who can teach Mathematics, Further Mathematics and Physics, you are a very hot cake and even though private schools managements in Nigeria are generally mean, there are still few out there that are reasonable enough to appreciate you for these subjects and never play with your occupational welfare. So look out for another school. But it is important that when you are in the process of searching for another school, you don't present yourself as desperately looking for that job as that is usually the foundation of the disdain and ill treatment you will later get from the management.

2. Find a way to be self employed. Going by my own personal experience, I can boldly say that your residing in Lagos is already an advantage in regard to this because Lagos is practically the only city in Nigeria where your skills sell fast especially if you are excellent in those skills.

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