Mrfeel:

I don't know what nnamdi KANU said about oba of Benin but what ever he said he must have heard it from the people, oba of Benin has oppressed through out history, go to TikTok you will find, Edo people, ESAN people isoko people etc insulting the OBA of Benin everyday

No genuine Esan, Isoko or Edo person insults the Oba of Benin. How can an Edo person insult his own monarch? Does that make sense? Those you refered to here are Igbo impostors. Onyearegbulem's attempt to diminish Oba stool stands as an evidence that only the Igbos are known for insulting Edo traditional institution.

Mrfeel:


Oh inspired by nnamdi KANU right, good then there is no complains igbos insults Benin people with their oba , Benin insult igbos back 50/50 , oba of Benin is an ordinary man to igbos

Good that you have implicitly agreed that Nnamdi Kanu's attacks on the Oba of Benin were unprovoked.

Mrfeel:

You are finding it difficult to understand cause English is your problem, read again to understand

You are confused

MadamVanessa:


Uploading video on my YouTube channel and transfering the link here will be a whole lot of work.i would've uploaded a video how this Ajibola who claimed Igbo because he can speak Igbo insulted and denigrating the Oba of Benin on X and on TikTok. Someone screen recorded the whole thing.


I am not saying that Igbos are good or flawless, they have their own problems and short comings too. But if you want to be reasonable and not being biased, you'll agree that before Igbos starts insulting and throwing tantrums online, know that you must have step on their toes. I have checked what Oba of Benin did to Igbos that would warrant the Igbos to throw insults on him but nothing. Even the most dûmbest person will know that this is a game just to set the Edo people against the Igbos, because lately the two have been going one on one. So it's now a pain in the ass of Igbo haters.

Per the bolded, how did Edo State people's 40% vote for Buhari in 2015 election amount to stepping on the toes of Igbos to warrant all the insults and venom which nearly all Igbo monickers on nairaland showered on Edo State people and this same Oba of Benin for eight good years? You think we have forgotten?

aswani:


That's not true, the difference is a lot, Benin are a majority in Edo state and are relinquishing the governorship out of a spirit of fairness.

If Benin were greedy, they have the numbers to keep being governor for ever and ever.

You seen to be oblivious of the fact that Edo South (Bini land) is the most cosmopolitan of the three senatorial districts in Edo State hence there are far more Esans and Afemais in Bini land than there are Binis in these other parts of Edo State. If you put the population of Esans and Afemais together it dwarts that of Binis completely.

babasolution:


OGORI language is not in anyway a dialect of Yoruba,its not even a yoruboid language, it's a stand alone language ( you can Google it), its a full fledged language called oko not related to Yoruba at all.Many modern ogorians like to say it's a dialect of Yoruba to foist on themselves Yoruba identity because they realise we probably have no tribal relations.the claim that ogori is ancestrally from ile-ife is speculative and is probably false.


So here is the thing.
Ogori is a very very ancient tribe and the real origin and background of ogori is in reality largely unknown ,lost or shrouded in secrecy.

But going by some history books written by indigenes one mentioned that OGORI origin started from ile-ife, then they went to Benin,then as far as idomaland then returned after many years through ajaokuta, atte,ikpeshi- then through okpe,entering owo in yorubaland and ikpesi- akoko( yorubaland) before finally going on to settling were they are today.I posit than ile-ife claim is just to give ogori a beginning, but they might actually in reality have started migrating from the jukun/ idomoid area.

The other claims ogori is akokogbangiri,native to its immediate environs(that is part of the aboriginal Akoko-edo groups).

From the above summaries,my conclusions being a native is that the first OGORIs( because ogori has an older clan which are acclaimed as the host group) are actually aboriginal,an autochonos group indigenous to Akoko-edo, igbirra zone,and were among the first ancient settlers there,along with the uneme (before the main stock of igbirra and Benin migrants), then they were later joined by migrating stock from the east (probably a somewhat igbirra/jukunoid stock- though ogorians deny any relationship with the igbirra) ,before the arrivals of Benin migrants to the zone.

It will interest you to note that,many of the okpameri towns actually have aboriginal roots from ogori,eg somorika/ semolika and onumu are originally from ogori before they were joined by Benin stock,bekuma( otase and ubelen) are also originally ogori clans,lampese also has ogori groups( akusumeme),ogori clans are also present in ososo( the ani,which is recognised in ososo has the oldest clan),they are also in makeke and ojah( these one migrated to ojah,they aren't aborigines),ekpe are also aboriginally part of OGORI

Well, I have read through all your responses. While I might still need more clarifications on the origins of Ogori as a people, I would also like to be educated on the Magongo connection with Ogori in the sense of who exactly Magongo people are and where they migrated from. Are they Ebiras or that they share ancestry with Ogori people?

Sapasenator:


Just listen to your frustrated self, do you sound normal in the head? No.

Outside of tiny Edo State, I ask again, who be Oba of Benin?

You wouldn't be asking this question if you had watched the 2016 coronation of this present Oba of Benin. Countries like US, Canada, UK, Germany, Australia, etc sent in representatives. Specifically, one of the representatives apologized the fact that his country shared part of the loot from the palace in the British invasion of 1897.

viccy12:


You are easily manipulated because you are weak, unintelligent and tribalistic. People like you will be used to spill innocent blood because you are just pathetically d...*umb

If you were smart you would know that Reno has baiting many ethnic group into hating the Igbo to ruin Peter Obi chances. Go through Reno page and see what he is using people like you to achieve....continue, ode!

Seems you have forgotten that from 2015 to 2022 the same Reno Omokri did countless write ups trying to bait all other tribes in Nigeria against Yorubas and Hausafulanis just because his preferred candidate Jonathan lost the election in 2015 and that those baitings endeared him to Igbos so much that they practically hero worshipped him. But now that he feels that the failure of his preferred candidate Atiku in the last election was caused by the division of PDP votes by Peter Obi and his Igbo brothers who gave him bloc SE votes, he turned his weapon of ethnic profiling away from Yorubas and Hausafulanis towards Igbos but Igbos are now sad towards him. What goes around comes around.

IamANigerianMan:

How did you know it was Igbo that did, oba involved himself in politics, if you don't want insult stay away from politics.

Did Oba involve himself in Igbo politics? Has the Oba ever intervened in politics outside Edo State or are you saying he has no right to play any role in the politics of his own state? Are you to dictate to him how he should interact with his people? Edo State is different from your state. We rever the traditional institution and we therefore don't find it abnormal when a traditional ruler gets involved in politics because we know that these traditional rulers existed and headed our government before the Western world came and imposed this present political order on us.

Mrfeel:


Like I said Reno omokri is not the only one, there are many Benin people insulting igbos everyday on TikTok calling them their slaves, there is one on TikTok called wounded civilian a Benin man

Wounded Civilian's verbiage against Igbos was remotely inspired by Nnamdi Kanu's unprovoked insults on the Oba of Benin for years without any Igbo figure cautioning him.

jimetagambo:

According to this line of thought, then they should face Reno Omokri. Why insult the oba of Benin?

Reno is not even Benin but Itsekiri. You can also insult the Olu of Warri. Wetin concern Reno and Oba of Benin?

You think those people are that logical in their thinking?

kedeojo:
That serve you Benin right
You keep supporting those disrespectful bigot. They say Benin is the headquarters of Obidient movement and they don't respect the head of their host. We in Edo north knows their antics. Obidient movement in Edo north was so low cos we know their evil agenda. They no born Dem well to insult Otaru of Auchi cos the people will so chase igbos from their place and nothing will happen.

I was shocked beyond words when, beginning from 2022, Benin people started gathering themselves into the streets and announcing that Edo State was on fire for Peter Obi and that Edo State is the headquarters of Obidient movement, blah blah blah blah.....
It was then it dawned on me that people have very short memory.

Mrfeel:

What led to the insult is people like Reno omokri claiming igbos in present day delta and Edo were their slaves

So is the Oba of Benin the same person as Reno Omokri to warrant a reprisal verbal attack on him? I am finding it difficult to understand your defense line.

babasolution:


The same issues OGORI is facing,many of fellow modern ogorians think they have Yoruba roots because of their Yoruba surnames,but it's only a recent phenomenon, OGORI are actually the aborigines of the Akoko-edo, igbirra zone

Well, I have been hearing that Ogori people are ancestrally from Ile Ife and that what they speak is a dialect of Yoruba. But now that you are saying otherwise, then you could have superior facts as a native. So could you please expatiate further? Which of the Akoko-Edo ethnicities is Ogori. Are they Okpameri, Uneme or Igarra or any other one which is none of these three?

greenandy:


Ask your dad. You might not have been born before 2006 when Obasanjo govt's National Political Reforms Conference took place. The conference was abandoned towards the end because the SW and North delegates refused the small increase in percentage for derivation for oil producing areas.

I am actually older than you. If anything, Obasanjo scuttled all attempts to hold such a conference. Obasanjo is a one Nigerianist hence believes in the status quo and that was why the North preferred him in 1999. His conference was a parallel one aimed at removing steam from the one which the civil society was trying to convene. Go back and do your research very well.

Arosam:


Thank you for the re-education. I am from Ugboshi-Afe. People often see my adopted Yoruba surname and assume I'm Yoruba, even though I speak Okpameri fluently since I was born and raised at home. Some Afojas and those who aspire to be Yoruba mistakenly believe that our native Okpameri language(Edoid), which has never been lost or extinct, originated from Ile-Ife.

You are indeed welcome my brother.

greenandy:



Lies. If Obasanjo's National Political Reforms Conference was not thwarted midway by two groups of people in the conference, Nigeria 🇳🇬 would have been shinning long before now.
Buhari said he put the recommendations of Jonathan's 2014 CONFAB in the fridge.

Please when did Obasanjo ever genuinely conduct any reforms conference?

ekhai:
I THOUGHT I AM THE ONLY ONE THAT CAN STILL REMEMBER HIS TIME AS MILITARY AND CIVILIAN PRESIDENCY. THE NONSENSE IN THE ELECTORAL SYSTEM BEGAN FROM HIS ERA. WE'VE SOON FORGOTTEN HIS BOAST OF " THIS ELECTION IS A DO OR DIE AFFAIRS".

Thanks for this reminder. Do or die affair.

adams123:


Yar'Adua was the best so far with his just 2 years in office.
He reduced fuel price immediately he assumed office... He told us categorically that the election that brought him to power wasn't properly conducted...
He formed government of national unity then with opposition parties.. the man was a nice man. May his soul rest in peace

You mean a man who ordered the massacre of innocent civilians in Oporoza and signed Sharia into law despite the constitutional secularity of Nigeria was a nice man?

anonimi:


What character does Baba Iyabo have?

Is it the character of bribing sinators and legisLooters for his failed attempt to be president forever through the 3rd term project? Or the Halliburton bribes he received?

Abi it is the character that he has for making the highest suspect in the death of his Attorney General Bola Ige’s, a sinator from Agodi prison in 2003

Are you sure that he has character at all

Don't mind them. Character obviously has a new meaning to such persons

worksmart:
Obasanjo should receive the longest jail sentence.

His administration introduced our flawed constitution and failed democracy.

Most challenges we face today originated from Obasanjo's tenure.

Sensible comment

Chikel20000:
I don't know y people always call Yaraauda.....he didnt do much so I am not impressed

My brother, the this Yaradua thing remains a puzzle to me. I have tried and tried to see exactly how Yaradua was different from the rest but can't still see it. I have no doubt that if Abacha had spent only three months in Aso Rock and died, he too would have been said to be Nigeria's best and most honest president whom death and the forces against a prosperous Nigeria snatched away. Remember that Murtala Mohamed spent about six months in office and he is adjuded as as the man who would have changed Nigeria despite the evils he committed before and while in office.
I recall that when the victory of Segun Oni of Ekiti State was annulled by the Appeal Court and a rerun ordered, Yaradua went to Ekiti to campaign for him and in the process raised Segun Oni's hand and declared that he would be the first governor to spend more than eight years in office obviously in the calculation that he would win through rigging and be resworn in for two more terms in addition to the two years he had already spent in power before the court annulment. That was before the constitution was amended that such reelected governors' terms would belly the time spent before annulment of their Victories. A president who was building an expectation on a constitutional error is who some folks celebrate today as honest and well intentioned. The same Yaradua who was first to sign into law the Shariah code of conduct as Katsina governor despite the constitution declaring Nigeria a secular state. The same Yaradua ordered the second Niger Delta massacre of innocent civilians this time in Oporoza, Delta State is whom people term a saint. It is clear that the average Nigerian does not base his opinion on facts and reason once it comes to political conversations.

Lanruze:
President Olusegun Obasanjo is one of the few Nigerian Leaders who posterity will Judge fairly. He had one of the most nationalistic ideals and ran the most prosperous Government since Post '99 democratic rule.

He recruited the best talents from the diaspora which some of them where Okonjo- Iweala (PhD), Prof. Charles Soludo, Prof. Dora Akinyuli, Moses Kpako (PhD), Akinwunmi Adesina(PhD), Oby-Ezekwensili (PhD) etc.

They together ran the most prosperous Nigerian economy leaving behind a staggering $60B in the foreign reserve and clearing of the external multilateral debt of Nigeria to Zero

The major catch to Obj is that he is not a tribal and ethnic bigot an his appointments were balanced.

Once he notes a subject, I suggest rather than dispel it he should be given audience. Corruption will kill this Government if not tackled with care.

A non tribal bigot who ordered the massacre of innocent civilians in other regions on the excuse that security men on duty were murdered in those regions but when security men were also murdered in his own region, he couldn't order similar massacre of innocent civilians there. The biggest fraud in the politics of Nigeria is the ascribing of detribalization to any politician.

consize:


i swear the revisionism on this thread is crazy, Nigerians easily forget o. He should be first in line for arrest also

Well said. The problem is not only short memory but hypocrisy. Else how can a normal human being in his right senses adjudge Obasanjo as a good leader with all the killing of innocent civilians in Odi and Zakibiam, sinking of $16bn in power sector reforms which delivered more darkness, introduction of bribery to the floor of the National Assembly, and other numerous evils?

gidgiddy:


People who talk about secession clause make me laugh. The British grabbed your land by force, put it in colonial project called 'Nigeria' without your consent. Now you say there must be secession clause before anyone can leave a colonial contraption they never agreed to be part of in the first place? That's laughable

Then why did Ojukwu first seek the Eastern Region Assembly approval before declaring a war to free them from the same British contraption?

[quote author=gidgiddy post=131320200]

You have to bear in mind that the same USSR supported Nigeria, particularly with war planes. Why would USSR offer support to Ojukwu, only to later support Nigeria?

It is what it is. My father fought as a Bifran Soldier for three years. As far as they were concerned, it was a fight for freedom. It may not have worked out the way they wanted but time has since proved Ojukwu and my father right. Nigeria has only gone from bad to worse to fire. Ojukwu foresaw that Nigeria would never work, and he was right[ /quote]

Ojukwu did not really foresee that Nigeria would never work. He only later realized that fact as an afterthought when Ironsi was overthrown and killed. Those who genuinely foresaw that Nigeria would never work were Tafawa Balewa, Awolowo, Ahmadu Bello and Anthony Enahoro and they therefore asked for secession clause at different times far before independence. Ojukwu and Zik on the other hand were busy chanting one-Nigeria and arguing that the unity of Nigeria was perpetual and nonnegotiable.

gidgiddy:


Well I suggest you Google decree 34 and read it rather than reading third party comments. We had 4 Region's that were controlling their resources before Ironsi, and we had 4 Region's that were controlling their resources throughout Ironsi's regime. The only thing the Region's did not have was democracy, it was military rule. The decree 34 you talk about was about the civil service, nothing more. It was Gowon that came after Ironsi, dissolved all 4 Region's and created 12 states with decree 14, then abolished resource control with Decree 15, its all on page .

But has been happening since the last 60 years? Did those who have been ruling since Ironsi give you Region's? Did they give you resource control? Did they give you secession clause? No, the made Nigeria as Unitary as they could, divided the country into 36 states and shouted 'one Nigeria' all over the place

Today, Nigeria is world's poverty capital and 8th most insecure country on earth, far worse than Ironsi's time. Stop talking about Ironsi, nobody who came after him managed to do better, they only did far worse

This your defense line in the bolded is philosophically faulty because it ignores the law of cause and effect.
In a scenario whereby two or three parties solemnly agreed to a deal and one of the parties later breached the deal, you can't blame either of the other two for not honouring the agreement thereafter. It is like a husband and wife who had a joint account and they both agreed not to make withdrawal from it until after two years yet six months into the agreement the husband went to make withdrawal secretly from it, but later the wife got to know and in response went to withdraw her own quota of the savings completely only for the husband to start blaming the wife for the failure of the savings plan. If you were the wife would you agree to being responsible for the failure of the savings plan?

hmohammed:


I remember the SS and SE regions didnt protest against Jonathans government in 2012. Who is the bigger hypocrite??

Thanks for this reminder. Nigerians are hypocrites who point a finger at others while four dirtier ones point back at them

Okoroawusa:

Listen to yourself...

You no wan fvck toto. Wetin naked woman come dey do on top your bed?

Chai! Savage!

iykechas2002:
All this is for the ikwerres to be flavoured by this government and to dissociate themselves from Biafra.

Where in the world 🌎 is the word
South-South? Why is there no North-North or East-East?

Dumb ass professor and elders

Geopolitical regions are not named according to compass directions. There is no compass direction as North Central but that is a geopolitical region's name in Nigeria. The present South East was once called East Central. Please show me East Central in the cardinal points.

Odingo1:

Have you seen any Igbo dragging Ikwerre people for anything. Is Ikwerre people that is always making the noise every year in their gatherings.

Who cares whether they are Igbos or not. The language they are speaking and their names gave them out as Igbos in Nigeria unless if they can start answering Bini names and start speaking Bini language instead of Igbo language they are speaking now.

Is just like Okun person in Kogi denying his not a Yoruba. Although he can claim to be Okun man but his name and language he speaks gave him out as a Yoruba. That is the situation of Ikwerre people.

The same scenario is playing out with Igbos claiming to originate from Israel but on arrival in their present location they didn't only forget their Jewish language and culture but their skin changed from white to black. At least Ikwerre people's skin colour has not changed from that of their claimed Bini ancestors unlike Igbos.

Kay17:


You mean the same people that didn't develop their states with grit and determination?

We seem to forget that the regions barely lasted four years following independence. It was the corruption and institutional decay that led to the intervention of the military in the first place.

We can simply watch and see.

Did the military end up not institutionalizing the very corruption they claimed made them intervene? Did the investigations that followed the overthrow of the first Republic really end up revealing any massive corruption which the military alleged was ongoing?