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Their brother Peter Obi always quotes China as an example for Nigeria to learn from in building an economy. Now the China people themselves have come to show us the practicals of what Peter Obi has been saying, but Peter Obi's brothers are the ones angry about it and saying China must go, and Peter Obi himself is keeping quiet and not doing anything about his China friends being driven out of Nigeria. No be Juju be that one?

arantess:
its not by writing long drivel sentences.

how is the living standard of the common man?

many businesses have closed, prices of goods and services skyrocketed because of your anti people policies that you claim is the best.

All genuine corrective measures about any system or human endeavors usually cause disruptions that have frightening and uncomfortable negative effects at the beginning but over time the dust settles gradually and results only begin to show and in most cases long after the pioneer of those measures is gone from office.

DoTheNeedful:
There is nothing about Obi's past that makes him more competent than other politicians in Nigeria.

The only reason I might vote for him is because he represents a tribe that has been marginalized at the national level. I also believe that an Igbo presidency could help heal some wounds we have in Nigeria. Other than that, Obi is just riding on vibes.

He talks so much about moving us from consumption to production and boosting domestic economy. Yet, he stashed million of dollars in tax havens. His personal wealth he kept in the Caribbean tax havens could employ hundreds of Nigerians if the money stayed within Nigeria.

His supporters claim Tinubu cornered Lagos. Obi tried the same in Anambra. The difference between him and Tinubu is that Tinubu "succeeded" in godfatherism but Obi "failed".

He also talks so much about saving money in Anambra. I don't view that positively as many of his supporters do. Most wealthy nations in the world have large debts. The reason is that they invest a lot in infrastructure which in turn would boost their economies. Can Obi tell the world that Anambra had the best hospitals or there were no schools with leaking roofs at the time he saved millions of dollars belonging to the state? Prosperous societies are usually not fiscally conservative as Obi has demonstrated.

Per the bolded; without prejudice to the fact that the seeds of the marginalization in question were sown by the victims we are now sympathetic to, the introduction of rotational presidency by the PDP in 1999 was not put in place to address past marginalization but to create a balance of some sort going forward. Even if we argue that Igbos have still been marginalized since 1999 till date as per presidency, we will only be reasonable if we put the blame squarely on the PDP which the Igbos religiously supported and made huge political sacrifices for without it ever considering an Igbo man or woman for the presidential or running mate ticket throughout its 16 year hold on power only for it to start looking the way of Igbos in their power retake plans after being kicked out of Aso Rock. In essence, it was not Nigeria as a whole that marginalized Igbos since 1999 but the PDP did so to them even though they sacrificed and made enemies for themselves in pursuit of loyalty to the PDP.

vick00:
In your next life, you would mind your business. I have same issues here. I'm 27 and my family has been pressuring me too much about marriage. Theh kept saying my mates have 2 to 3 children already. All I have to do now is print this news and paste it in front of my house. Action speaks louder than voice.

Don't mind them. By the time you, on account of their pressure, just jump into marriage and end up with the wrong person, they are still the ones that will accuse you of rushing into marriage and will deny completely that they mounted any pressure on you.

brain54:
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To kpai person just dey hungry am before. He just need small excuse.


Pikin dey cry because him mama go market, what would an orphan child now do?🤷



When will you get married he kpai neighbor, what would he have done if he was married and that neighbor slept with his wife?

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While I am not justifying the man's decision to murder his neighbor, you obviously missed reading the part of the report which says his neighbour was asking him in a taunting manner why he was not yet married at 45. Why can't people learn to mind their business? In most cases these who criticize others for a particular issue in their lives are themselves not really better off about that very issue. I used to know a woman who would criticize a particular neighbour of hers for not converting from Roman Catholicism to their so-called Pentecostal Churches. But ironically the Pentecostalist woman herself was having an over 30 year old spiritual affliction caused by her stealing from the shrine of an idol and refusing to do restitution despite having read about the need for restitution repeatedly in the Bible. So in most cases people are just shameless and repulsive hypocrites. '

Gatekeeping is not actually a Nigeria -only thing. In official English, it is called intellectual property protection or industrial secret. No one has been able to unravel the secret formula which coca-cola uses to produce coke. Would you call that gatekeeping? It is a normal thing and there are laws enacted to protect intellectual property in certain advanced countries. Moreover, when you reveal an economic secret to some persons in the name of trying to lift them out of poverty, once they are actually out of the poverty and thereafter you try to correct them or even caution them on certain tendencies, they would use that wealth to fight you so hard that you begin to regret ever pitying them and helping them out of poverty. I had the experience personally. Some will even seek to ruin you so that they will end up becoming your boss.
Pastor Tunde Bakare once preached that one of the greatest mistakes in life is to make a lot of costly sacrifices in pursuit of a secret formula to prosperity and financial freedom and when you finally succeeded you share it with a person who never identified with you while you were suffering, making sacrifices and doing self denials towards that discovery.

This exactly is the problem with Nigeria. Should the decision to support a candidate be based on whether that candidate acknowledges and thanks his supporters or based on the candidate's ideology and campaign manifesto? The same primordial sentiments which attracted support for Obasanjo, Yaradua, Jonathan and Buhari is still at play till today in the mind of the average Nigerian.

1. Is there South -South in the cardinal points?

Answer: The regions are not geographical but geopolitical . Moreover, those who ask this rhetorical question were themselves once named East Central State from 1967 to 1976 and they gladly so identified themselves without asking the government which created it to show them East Central in the cardinal points.

2. Why should there be South South when there is no North -North
Answer: South-South means the most Southern region in the South and of a truth, the areas now called South South is more Southern than either the South East and South West. But among the three regions of the North, none can really be said to be the most Northern.

3. The South South was created to divide us.
Answer: Edo and Delta states now in the South South region were never part of the Old Eastern Region or part of the East Central Region. So how could a people get separated from you when they were never together with you in the first instance?
Then the greatest irony is that the same people implicitly suggesting that the South South and their region should be together as one region thus leading to the existence of only two regions in the South against three in the North are the same people asking for the creation of a sixth state in their region for the sake of balance. Will the existence of two regions in the South and three in the North amount to a balance?

Bendeco02:
Normally the whole South South tribes, majority like Peter Obi.

That's if the votes will be allowed to count.

If election is to be done free and fair, Tinubu will not even contest because that will be a waste of resources. APC would have changed their presidential candidate.

You seem to have forgotten that in the 2023 election, Bayelsa State that has the highest Ijaw population in Nigeria was swept clean by Atiku and Obi had meaningless number of votes there.

frankson1:
Make una form una own party if it's easy. You can't call the shots in the party another man invested in and laboured for.

You are advising first class party hijackers to form their own party?

Politicstoday:
not only that, he should learn from Obaseki

Federal might was on Obaseki's side back then but the opposite is the case with Fubara now. So Obaseki's survival back then was not by his own personal power or smartness.

Afolue:
got it

I thought as much.

Afolue:
😂😂😂🤣🤣😅

Abi o ri, Omo ibo le le yi
Meaning: You no see am, this is an Omo ibo

But this name of yours, Afolue, sounds familiar. Are you from Enwan town?

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Afolue:
😂😂😂🤣🤣😅

Abi o ri, Omo ibo le le yi
Meaning: You no see am, this is an Omo ibo

Afolue:
yea, that’s true. I have experienced this many times when growing up in the west. Other southerners are Omo ibo. No one can take that word away from any average Yoruba person’s mouth. Most especially when one’s intonation doesn’t match when speaking (their) Yoruba language with them. You will be immediately be referred as Omo ibo ni 🤣

Another stereotype which some unexposed Yorubas, especially those from Ogun and Oyo States, have is the perception that if you are fair in complexion and are frequently dressed in shirts and trousers with shoes, then you must be an Omo Ibo.

Osariemen12:
Many of them ignorantly refer to us as Yoruba.

An ignorant and uneducated Yoruba person is more likely to regard you as Omo Ibo than see you as a Yoruba. Those of them who argue that Edo people are Yorubas do so not out of genuine ignorance of the uniqueness of Edo but due to political expansionism quest. And such are very few. The average uneducated Yoruba person believes that if you are not Yoruba or Hausa, then you are automatically an Igbo person.

gidgiddy:
I dont know what you people think Igbos gained from a military dictator like Abacha. But the reality that cannot be washed away is that you people supported former military dictators like Obasanjo and Buhari to become democratically elected Presidents of Nigeria

You mean the Yorubas in whose SW region Obasanjo could not win a single state supported Obasanjo to become civilian president? Are you even really sure you live in Nigeria? If anything, it was you Igbos that gave bloc votes to Obasanjo both in 1999 and 2003.

Valthegreat:
What baffles me is how most black world do not treat our leadership choices like our investment choices.
In this forum there are so many people who know very well that this family their leadership style is the more you look the less you see and as such will not invest in their business or only do so on the basis of luck but at the same time they support Tinubu to take Nigeria to eldorado. E.g Oga Emma will not touch Oando even with a long spoon because of the personality or family running it but at the same time he is pro Tinubu to lead Nigeria to the promised land. Can an apple fall far from its tree?

The issue of choice of leadership in Nigeria is not necessarily about the genuine factors of nation building. Nigeria is actually not yet a nation for want of national integration, so there is yet no citizenship consensus on the parameters of good governance. Was it not in this same Nigeria that majority chose shagari over Awolowo, and some parts of the South gave Tofa more votes than MKO? Could the reason for their preference for Tofa over MKO be genuinely about the pursuit of a better Nigeria?

Democracy is a matter of freedom of choice regardless of how sensible or otherwise those choices are.

megawealth01:
The bears will be crazy when it finally arrives but not all stocks will be attacked

They will be very brutal in their field day. I have rather sold most of my holdings and waiting for counter attack at the end of the reign of the coming bears.

Joyful365:
The likes of Ellah Lakes, Presco, Aradel, Guinness, Okomu, MTN, and Access Bank will shed at least 50% from their all time highs when the time comes. Watch out and check the charts

I share your sentiment. There is a palpable possibility of price shedding in the short to medium term from now. At this point, capital appreciation in any stock beyond the current prices will only be driven by very strong improvement in fundamentals.

Agbalowomeri:
Unfortunately, more than 95% of salaries in Nigeria are so useless now including ALL of civil service.

Without corruption, I don't think a SENIOR civil servant can comfortably buy a tokunbo corolla car in 3 years. Where is uncle Tolu?

It takes uncommon grace for one to realize that there is actually no life in the civil service. The most delusional thing about the civil service is the argument that there is job security in it and that it is pensionable.

narite:
Decade after decade, stock-market speculators continue to grow rich, while the everyday average honest worker can barely afford food to eat and helplessly watches their purchasing power depreciate. A strange Prosperity!

That is why life is all about working smart rather than working hard. Salary earners work hard while investors work smart. No one gets rich through working and earning salary. An investor would start his investment journey with an amount of money less than a month pay of the salary earner but in few years thereafter, the investor's returns by way of dividends and capital appreciation will have multiplied in hundreds of folds while the salary earners pay remains stagnant and keeps losing value due to inflation.

Fiscus105:
Wike never work outside politics in his entire life and everything he and his wife achieved today is linked to PDP, yet the same man make sure he pulled down the party from room to foundation.

Meanwhile, if paraventure he dump from APC tomorrow, he will run back to PDP, the same party will still carry him and be singing Hossana behind him.

If hey talk, they say no permanent enemy but permanent interest.

You seem to have forgotten that the same Wike sacrificed his entire political being and career to keep the PDP alive for good eight years beginning from 2015 when the party lost power and nearly all the other key members like Atiku, Tambuwal, and even Jonathan etc directly or indirectly jumped ship to the APC to romance there with Buhari only for them to come back to the same PDP when election was approaching and expecting the Wike who had so much sacrificed to just sit back and watch them hijack the party again in the name of taking the 2023 presidential election ticket. Put yourself in Wilke's shoes and see if you would have acted differently.

crusufixo:
In my opinion, I think the best thing for them at this point would be to merge with ADC. This is just the best chance they have, else, they should just close shop... But mehn.... this present situation is an exact example of the saying ' Pride goes before the fall'. They had their chance, but they me**ed it up with their arrogance.

PDP merging with ADC will mean a faction of PDP merging with another faction. ADC is actually just a faction of PDP as those who currently make up ADC are nearly all migrants from the PDP.

gidgiddy:
The Regions were always a group of provinces same as a State in todays Nigeria is nothing but a group local government areas. The Eastern Region was made up of 20 provinces such as Ogoja Province, Enugu provinces, Yenagoa province etc. Group of provinces was even more accurate in describing the Regions. Below is your own evidence of how Gowon abolished the 4 Regions Nigeria had and replaced them with 12 states, using decree 14. Then decree 15 that ended resource control and and revenue sharing formula agreed at independence(section 141 and section 164 of the constitution)

Now try your best to blame Ironsi for what Gowon did, you know Gowon is a Northerner

If the regions were groups of provinces, then why did Ironsi change their names officially from regions to groups of provinces? Why not just leave their names the way he met them?

I have already given explanations on the gazzete you attached above. The ball is now in your court to show us Ironsi's gazzete so that we can juxtapose it with this Gowon s own you are always quick to upload, and then see who tampered with the revenue distribution formula with respect to the original independence constitution.
The Distributable pool account is the account which all regions pay just 20% of their revenue into as savings for future emergency and that is why, as you can see above, the revenue is paid back to them from the center. The main 50% which the regions retain has no central pool because they don't even pay it to the center at all in the first instance, and that is why you can't see anything about it in Gowon's gazzete that you uploaded above.
Until you upload that of Ironsi no genuine truth seeker will take you seriously.

gidgiddy:
Oh I see. Gowon abolished the 4 Regions, created 12 new states, changed the revenue sharing formula, thereby altering the structure of Nigeria

But you people's problem is Ironsi's decree 34 that was about the civil service? Laughter won't kill me

You have been given evidences that Ironsi abolished the regions and set up groups of provinces in their place, but you keep on pretending not to see the evidences. Well that is your cup of tea.

gidgiddy:
Oh I see. Gowon abolished the 4 Regions, created 12 new states, changed the revenue sharing formula, thereby altering the structure of Nigeria

But you people's problem is Ironsi's decree 34 that was about the civil service? Laughter won't kill me

Gowon abolished Ironsi's four groups of provinces and began to change them back to their original regional status. He was still in the process when the Aburi Summit was convened and during the summit Ojukwu proposed an extremely decentralized structure which Gowon agreed to with him. But on return to Nigeria, majority of the duly elected political leaders who were not consulted or carried along on the Aburi agreement rejected that extremely decentralized structure and rightly advised Gowon to throw it into the dustbin. So Gowon did as they advised. This angered Ojukwu who then declared war on Nigeria. To protect Nigeria from Ojukwu's war declaration, Gowon had to halt his previous attempt to change Ironsi's four groups of provinces back to the original regions, so Gowon regrouped Ironsi's provinces into twelve states and Ojukwu's failure was sealed.

lawani:
Power should not even have ended up with him for him to be trying the coupists. It should have been the Democratic government trying the coupists. The fact he became head of state just proves he was a coup plotter himself

This has been my take too. His obvious reluctance to make any attempt to bring the mutineers to book spoke volume of his own indirect involvement in the whole plot. He was just too sympathetic to the coupists.
I also perfectly agree that he should have facilitated a situation whereby the civil authority would be the one to charge the coupists to court for treasonable felony and sentenced to death by the Supreme Court.
Ironically enough the Isaac Adaka Boro mutiny which happened almost at the same period with the mutiny of the January 15 coupists saw Ironsi charging Isaac Adaka Boro to court and the Supreme Court sentenced him to death by hanging yet Ironsi could not do same for the January boys despite they mutinied before Isaac Adaka Boro. Ironsi was a vile and rabid ethnic bigot.

Believeintruth:
Oga how did igbos twart it? You want to refer to secession clause let me catch in your lies. The same founding father's all signed an agreement with the British that the boundaries of colonial Nigeria will not be touched. More than 20 representatives in Lancaster and you tell me that one man over ruled the majority? Bros let thunder not strike you dead with the kind of lies you churn out.

If there was ever a time that all founding fathers signed such an agreement, then how come in 1961 the boundaries of Nigeria were readjusted to bring Northern Cameroon into Nigeria and take away Southern Cameroon from Nigeria? Can't you see how you lie shamelessly without recourse to common sense?

Believeintruth:
Oga how did igbos twart it? You want to refer to secession clause let me catch in your lies. The same founding father's all signed an agreement with the British that the boundaries of colonial Nigeria will not be touched. More than 20 representatives in Lancaster and you tell me that one man over ruled the majority? Bros let thunder not strike you dead with the kind of lies you churn out.

If you were intelligent you would have realized that by the comment of yours above you only corroborated my argument. You said all the 20 representatives signed that agreement and the British obliged it. That means if there was just one dissenting voice that refused to sign it, then the British would have rejected the whole agreement. Thunder fire your brain for low intelligence.

Believeintruth:
Wait first this lie about Zik is fast becoming too stale. You have not stopped this lie. Let me take you back to Lancaster when the independence talks wrte made. The British set an agreement that as basis for independence, the borders of colonial Nigeria will not be touched. All parties including Awolowo and Sardana alongside Zik signed it. The British themselves ruled out the secession clause and not Zik. There were more than 20 representatives from the locals in Lancaster are you saying that only one man over ruled every other person in that secession clause?

Oga try and be smart when pushing arguments.

When, as at 1954, the political leaders from the two Southern regions (Eastern and Western Regions) were pushing for independence and the leaders from the Northern Region we're of the view that they were not yet ready for it, didn't the British overlords deny us independence? Does that mean that only Ahmadu Bello, the main Northern leader kicking against independence was stronger than all the other region's leaders put together? Never! The issue was that the British needed only one dissenting region to deny us independence and they found it in the Northern Region. Now fast-forward to 1960 when leaders of all the three regions finally agreed to have independence, didn't the British grant it? They did. So that tells you that if Azikiwe had cooperated with the leaders of the other two regions in pushing for secession clause, the British would have as well had no excuse to deny us of it.