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PoliticsRe: Okpebholo Absent As South-South Governors Meet In Bayelsa by Deadlytruth(m): 5:50pm On Jan 29, 2025
AuItsene:
Don't mind useless anarchists. Edo is major obstacle to them. Anywhere they hear Edo they attack.
Ugly people

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In the words of ex-prrsident Jonathan, only a tree with ripe fruits attracts missiles from passersby. The mere mention of Edo sends shocks down their spine because of the rich history and culture of the people of that state. They all wish Edo to be part of their regions in order to share the pride with them. Come to think of it, the Federal Ministry of Culture's emblem has three symbols out of which two are chosen from Edo artworks and the remaining one chosen to represent all the other 35 states. Who won't wish to identify with such a people?
PoliticsRe: Okpebholo Absent As South-South Governors Meet In Bayelsa by Deadlytruth(m): 5:43pm On Jan 29, 2025
MASTAkiLLAh:
APC must always scatter any united front they come across. Okpebholor, why na huh
Is Cross River State governor who attended not of the APC?
PoliticsRe: Okpebholo Absent As South-South Governors Meet In Bayelsa by Deadlytruth(m): 5:39pm On Jan 29, 2025
ehikwe22:
How can Edo be South West when most parts of Delta, some parts of Rivers and Bayelsa have Edo heritage? Apart from Ijaw, Edoid groups are the majority. Even the Yoruboid and Igboid groups in Delta and Rivers have connections with Edo.
Don't mind the uninformed idiots saying that Edo should be in the SW. They clearly see Delta State with tribes like Itsekiri and Olukumis accepting their Yoruba ancestry and speaking dialects of Yoruba but don't term it a SW state but see Edo as SW even though there is actually no tribe in Edo that speaks a dialect of Yoruba or even shares any cultural similarities with Yorubas.
I have always said it that the reason these folks tag Edo a supposed SW state is the disappointment that plagues their envious souls each time Edo State people vote APC to govern the state. All these talks of Edo being a SW state ceazed completely when Obaseki defected to their beloved PDP.
InvestmentRe: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by Deadlytruth(m): 9:30am On Jan 29, 2025
emmaodet:
Is even doing a physical business any better? it is not as easy too.
I know how much have lost in farming - maize, groundnut etc, vegetable oil production factory i closed down 2 years ago (mechanical issues and power frustration etc) and so many more.
I just feel more comfortable and relaxed with bonds, treasury bills, mutual funds and stocks.
I can monitor it from anywhere in the world unlike physical biz where managers will be eating your money and doing virtually nothing
Same mindset with me. I have an aversion for physical business especially in the Nigerian environment. Since I entered the stock market in 2003 and realized that it is a business which requires only intellectual energy, physical businesses stopped appealing to me.
PoliticsRe: Kemi Olunloyo: The Last Kid To See Akintola Alive January 15th 1966 (pics) by Deadlytruth(m): 4:17am On Jan 29, 2025
franchasofficia:
Yes we Igbos did condemned the coup and even wished Dr Nnamdi Azikiwe was killed to assuage the North but unfortunately that did not happen.


Also Northerners carried out bigger revenge through the counter coup which was justified cos it was a military affair and they ought to have stopped their military coup madness there but they continued and started to massacre Igbos in that heartwrenching 1966 Northern pogrom in which Igbo civilians living in the North were being massacred in cold blood in all parts of Northern Nigeria and were even spearheaded by Middlebelt people today.


The pogrom was the imminent cause of the civil war. If the Northern military guys had stopped at the counter coup which removed Aguiyi Ironsi and death of hundreds of Igbo soldiers in just two nights, there wouldn't have been civil war. So Igbos paid more than enough price but still they must be blamed for what ordinary Igbos had no hand in but even after those first coup and the counter coup, Nigeria still witnessed several coups spearheaded by Hausa-Fulanis and Middlebelt guys but Nigerians never for once blamed Hausa-Fulanis and started mass killing of Hausa-Fulanis because their soldiers carried out a coup.



Northerners and Yorubas never rose up against Middlebelt civilians to massacre them because Dimka carried out a coup that killed Muritala Mohammed and neither did they do same when Major Gideon Okar carried out his own coup that also led to the death of many soldiers but Nzeogwu from today Delta state known as Niger Delta plus other Igbo soldiers, and some Yoruba soldiers, Middlebelt soliders carried a coup based on their volition, Hausa-Fulanis and Yorubas turned around to tag it Igbo coup just because they were already envious of Igbos and looking for opportunity to destroy Igbos at all cost, of which the coup presented them with that barbaric opportunity but still after decades that Igbos lost virtually all they had in a preceding civil war, got politically marginalized by a gangup of Hausa-Fulanis and Yorubas since the end of the war in 1970 to date, some senseless, inhumane, unscrupulous people from Yoruba tribe still have the conscience to be blaming Igbos for whatever happened in 1966 instead issuing apology to Igbos and seeking for complete reconciliation and full reintegration of Igbos into Nigeria's federal politics to foster real peace, togetherness, love and unity.




Both Kemi and Reno Omockery will never die well, they will end in shame and their generation will reap the reward of their inhumane act and wickedness towards Igbos.


Personally, I still believe that Middlebelt people are reaping the fruit of their unjustified actions against Igbos between 1966 to 1970 in which they allowed Hausa-Fulanis to deceive them and used them to massacre innocent civilian Igbos living peacefully in their region because of what happened among the military. It ought to teach other Nigerians a lesson but they refused to learn and I strongly believe that nature will definitely teach those that are stubborn to learn from that their own hard lessons.



Lastly, I want you all to note that majority of Igbos did condemned the coup, what I am saying is that Igbo civilians were never consulted by the young Igbo officers that decided to go on a commando job to topple the first civilian government for whatever reasons best known to them. It was purely on their own volition, they didn't go to Igbo people's community townhall meetings or Ogbakor Ndigbo or Ohanaeze Ndigbo to seek for Igbo peoples approval before carrying out the coup? So why blame the whole Igbos for the action of few young military officers even after you revenge and killed the Igbo head of state and hundreds of Igbo military officers which was more than enough revenge to serve as a warning, why involve innocent Igbo civilians by starting a pogrom to wipe out all Igbos?



That is the issue. Nobody, to the best of my knowledge, most Igbos I know then and now never supported the coup yet they are blamed and killed and being persecuted and blamed till today, does that make sense to you guys?


That the Igbo soldiers that carried out the coup decided in their own heart to spare the Igbo officers and politicians is still their case which they later paid for via the counter coup that removed and killed the Igbo head of state and other top Igbo military officers.


Even Ojukwu never supported the coup as he never liked Major Kaduna Nzeogwu and also worked with Ironsi to ensure the coup was foiled.
Your defense line seems to revolve around the claim that the larger Igbo civilian population didn't support the coup. But records have it that after the coup, Igbos living in the North were seen openly taunting their Hausa Fulani neighbours over the death of Ahmadu Bello and other key Northern figures. You may deny this anyway but more importantly, as long as silence is consent, the failure or refusal of Ohaneze Ndigbo or any other Igbo sociocultural body to publicly issue a statement distancing the Igbo race from the actions of the coupists who were mostly Igbos helped in fuelling the perception that it was an Igbo coup amidst other reasons like:
1. No Igbo politician was killed despite the alleged corrupt government having them in a quite high percentage.
2. Azikiwe the overall Igbo leader was questionably out of the country when the coup happened despite him supposedly being on the coupists hit list
3. Aguiyi Ironsi, another top Igbo man on the hit list survived 'miraculously' and even became the chief beneficiary of the coup.


If you assume you are not an Igbo man and then reconsider these points as a non-Igbo man, you can't but be compelled to view it as an Igbo coup.

Let's use a role reversal scenario. Assume that during the immediate past Buhari administration a group of four Yoruba and one Igbo soldiers staged a coup killing Buhari the president, Amaechi the minister of transport, Elrufai a strong Buhari loyalist, Malami the Attorney General, Hope Uzodinma for being an Igbo governor licking the arses of Buhari a Fulani man, and then the likes of Osinbajo and Tinubu who practically brought to power that very Buhari government the coup was staged to remove were far away in the US on some purported holiday, is there any argument and apologetics that can convince you that such a coup had no Yoruba agenda underneath it?
PoliticsRe: Kemi Olunloyo: The Last Kid To See Akintola Alive January 15th 1966 (pics) by Deadlytruth(m): 3:40am On Jan 29, 2025
Winnin009:
Bro, your write-up try but contradictions plenty.

The ibos weren't responsible for the coup but you further agreed that it was mostly them that carried it out.

Now who were those leaders that the young ibo coupists are trying to save the nation from? Same ibos you already said were holding most political positions...

So, the young coupists, mostly ibos, orchestrated a coup against a government where their tribesmen hold most key positions...

Bro, no how weh you wan package this thing; the ibos flopped in epic proportions during the post colonial into military era with that coup.

I'm just glad you admitted by yourself that the coupists were mostly ibos trying to overthrow a largely ibo government.
You nailed it. The monicker you quoted wrote a lot of self contradictions in that comment of his but thought he was making a sensible point. Let me buttress your point further as follows: According to him, Igbo soldiers staged a coup to clear the corruption in an Igbo dominated government but ended up killing people from other tribes and none from the Igbo tribe which majorly ran that corrupt government. Isn't that supposed to be the more reason the coup was actually an Igbo coup? What an interesting irony!
InvestmentRe: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by Deadlytruth(m): 2:02pm On Jan 28, 2025
Harvestock01:
More like "Catchment Area"🤣
Exactly
InvestmentRe: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by Deadlytruth(m):
KarlTom:
Not really 'enlightenment'.

Many have decided to abstain from any form of security after getting their fingers burnt in 08/09 and we cannot really blame them... wink
I my own opinion, a person truly enlightened on investment would not run away from it just because of a temporary bad experience. Come to think of it; is there really any economic endeavour in life that gives profits all the time without losses at some point at all? Nearly all of us oldies here got burnt in 2008 but we didn't run away because we had a truly enlightened objective of coming to the market which was to create sustainable wealth. Most of those who rushed in and rushed out between 2008 and 2009 came with the mindset that stock investment was a kind of lottery but got disappointed when the events of 2008 proved them wrong.
InvestmentRe: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by Deadlytruth(m): 1:49pm On Jan 28, 2025
emmanuelewumi:
Nigeria Stock Exchange was established in the early 60s all the listed company were foreign owned at least 99% of the shares were owned by foreigners.


My mentor late Akintunde Asalu in his book "my life of stock" said he bought his first stock in 1963 because he wanted to prove his Economics teacher at Kings College wrong. The teacher said Nigerians will continue to be poor unless they own shares in the big businesses making money in Nigeria.

Asalu was able to retire in 1972 at the age of 37, by the time he died in 2007 his stock portfolio was about N500 million, not bad for someone who never held a political appointment nor was a successful business man.


The first set of Nigerians to buy shares were corporate executives, Asalu worked with Unilever and RT Briscoe

When Nigeria Brewery, Nestle, Guinness etc had public offers, Nigerians didn't show interest except for the informed few.

In 1976, Obasanjo introduced the indigenization policy which made it compulsory for Nigerian citizens or Nigerian government to own between 40% to 60% of the shares of listed companies.


That was how Nigerians, state government and FGN owned shares in all the companies on the stock exchange from Manufacturers to banks, petroleum marketing.

Unfortunately it was Nigerians from a certain part of the country that were able to harness this opportunity.


What El Rufai did in 2003 was to democratise ownership of the privatized businesses by making sure the shares were bought by all Nigerians
Thanks for the details. Meaning Elrufai introduced federal character to investment.
InvestmentRe: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by Deadlytruth(m): 11:46am On Jan 28, 2025
emmanuelewumi:
Nahco did not do private placement oooo. Nshco was owned by federal government of Nigeria. The company was privatized and the public offer was sold to Nigerians based on state of origin.

Bureau of Public Enterprise headed by Nasir El Rufai believed previous privatization was cornered by the South Westerners
Okay, just seeing the bolded. But then, given the fact that the country's commercial capital is located in the SW, it is natural for SW to be ahead of the rest of the other regions in terms of financial education. No rocket science there at all.
InvestmentRe: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by Deadlytruth(m): 11:40am On Jan 28, 2025
emmanuelewumi:
Nahco did not do private placement oooo. Nshco was owned by federal government of Nigeria. The company was privatized and the public offer was sold to Nigerians based on state of origin.

Bureau of Public Enterprise headed by Nasir El Rufai believed previous privatization was cornered by the South Westerners
Okay. Thanks for the correction. I think the fact that it was sold to people on state of origin basis that made it appear as a private placement back then. I just recall that not really everyone interested in buying actually got to buy. But my question is, why make it a state of origin thing? Care giving more details?
InvestmentRe: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by Deadlytruth(m): 11:36am On Jan 28, 2025
essentialone:
A lot of staffs working in Stockbroking Firms, do not have any single shares, in any company.
That is why it is said some people remain thirsty while swimming in an ocean.
I once taught in a school and the commerce teacher had to invite me to help her out when she and those in the commercial classes got to Stock Exchange as topic for the week.
InvestmentRe: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by Deadlytruth(m): 11:28am On Jan 28, 2025
emmanuelewumi:
The marketing gimmick used then was that the Private placement shares par value was N5.00 and the par value when they will be listed would be 50k.

With this those who bought 1 million units at private placement would have 10 million units when listed.


So people sold solid and quality stocks to take speculative positions in the private placements offers.
One major precedent that made private placements hot cake then was the NAHCO story. Recall that in 2003/4 NAHCO did its private placement at N5 per share with very low OS, and soon afterwards got listed and within two months or so of listing, it rose from the quoted price of N5 to N70+ meaning a 1300% gain in such a short time. That created the perception that private placement is the easiest way to financial breakthrough.
PoliticsRe: Oyo Which Some People Call 'Brown Roof' Has Been Their Benevolent - Omokri by Deadlytruth(m): 9:36pm On Jan 27, 2025
Emilo:
The only thing saving Nigeria from all out war is that these various tribes have no access to guns. The level of hatred is deep rooted. No guns available is the only difference between Nigeria and DRC Congo/Rwanda situation.

Instead of us to find ways to build our nation and chase these corrupt politicians we are here arguing of VAT and resources going to the pockets of same politicians.

Chukwuma Nzeogu, Fela and their comrades had more balls than the present Nigeria youth!
If anything, Chukwuma Nzeogwu and co sowed the seeds of the inter-ethnic hatred you lamented above. In the name of ridding the country of the politicians they adjudged to be corrupt without any concrete evidence, they did an ethnic cleansing and set the country on fire. Let's be honest with ourselves, if the coup had never happened and those "corrupt" politicians like Ahmadu Bello, Awolowo, Okpara and Dennis Osadebey had continued with their "corrupt" style of governance, do you think Nigeria would have been this messed up today?
PoliticsRe: What The Six Geopolitical Zones Contributed To The VAT Pool And Received In 2024 by Deadlytruth(m): 9:44am On Jan 26, 2025
greenermodels:
within yourself, you should know that lack of political will/deliberate actions is what is holding back other ports in Nigeria (including other ports in the southwest and the northern Baro Port in Niger state) Lagos residents are suffocating under the over concentration of port activities in the state,the only people benefitting from the revenue are the political class,a president from Ogun, Delta,Edo,Always Ibom, Rivers etc would make it a priority to make ports in his home state or region operational. The colonial masters had ports in every part of Nigeria, there's nothing special about Lagos ports.
Per the bolded, What stopped Obasanjo from making a port in Ogun waterside? What stopped Jonathan from opening a new port in Bayelsa or at least upgrading the ones in Onne and PH to compete with that of Lagos?
PoliticsRe: Who Foiled The January 15, 1966 Coup? by Deadlytruth(m): 5:13pm On Jan 25, 2025
OkCornel:
At the bolded, do you have any intelligence report indicting Ironsi as a coup plotter? Or is this just your opinion?

I need evidence, not sentiments and personal opinions.
Are you suggesting that a Grand Commander of a country's military institution who got intelligence report about a mutiny in the offing by his subordinates shouldn't have immediately taken decisive action to preempt the mutiny but wait till the mutiny actually happened before taking action? What then is the essence of an intelligence report?
PoliticsRe: Who Foiled The January 15, 1966 Coup? by Deadlytruth(m): 5:08pm On Jan 25, 2025
OkCornel:
Can Ironsi just wake up and order a change of military formation across the country without checks and balances in place?
When he set out to "foil" the coup, did he order any change of formation in the military? When he ordered troops to go fight Isaac Adaka Boro and arrest him, did he first change any formation in the military across the country?
PoliticsRe: Who Foiled The January 15, 1966 Coup? by Deadlytruth(m): 3:33pm On Jan 25, 2025
OkCornel:
Did the intelligence report mention the names of the coup plotters?

Was Ironsi identified as part of the coup plotters in the intelligence report?
What mattered most was that any military officer regardless of rank knows that a coup plot is always meant to topple the government and distabilize the country and possibly come with bloodshed of innocent people. So Ironsi didn't need to know the names of the coup plotters from his intelligence report before deploying troops to the residences of those at the top power echelons for protection. So the troubling question remains: what exactly stopped Ironsi from beefing up security around the prime minister, the Senate president, the president and the four regional premiers immediately he received that intelligence report despite knowing fully well that those occupying those offices must be the prime targets of any attempt by anyone or group, be they civilians or soldiers, to topple the government of the day? Why warn the civilian prime minister and civilian regional premiers about a coup about to happen? What exactly was he expecting them to do about it better than he himself the overall GOC of the very coupists (whether he knew them or not) would have done to protect the civilians in power? Think about this with an open mind and you will realize that Ironsi wasn't very clean as far as the whole coup thing was concerned.
PoliticsRe: Who Foiled The January 15, 1966 Coup? by Deadlytruth(m):
OkCornel:
Item 1: Simply tribalism. That’s the only way I can rationalise it.

He wasn’t part of the coup plotters. He warned Inua Wada, Tafawa Balewa and other top politicians of an impending coup, yet those in power did not act on the intelligence report.

Everyone has their share of the January 1966 mess.
But he himself who received the intelligence report and was at the same time the chief security officer of the entire country was the one supposed to act. Why warning the politicians about an intelligence report about which he, as number one security officer of the country, was supposed to deploy his men all around the residences of those very politicians immediately he got the intelligence report? Why wait till the boys struck before suddenly realizing that he was the chief security officer of the country hence the need to rise up and "stop" the boys? His reactiveness as against his supposed proactiveness earlier on indicates some level of indulgence with the coup plotters. Moreover, the intelligence report was about a pending act of lawlessness by boys who were members of the very institution he was heading, so why expect the politicians to be the ones to take an action which he himself was more supposed to take?
PoliticsRe: Who Foiled The January 15, 1966 Coup? by Deadlytruth(m):
OkCornel:
For the records.

1) Ironsi wasn’t part of the coup plotters.
2) Ironsi warned Wada and Balewa of an impending coup. Those in power did not act on that intelligence report.
3) Ironsi crushed the coup and jailed the coup plotters.
4) The Senate President and Acting President - Nwafor Orizu “voluntarily” handed over power to Aguiyi Ironsi, rather than the Zanna Dipcharima who was nominated to replace Balewa.


My only faults with Ironsi are

1) Why did he not execute the coup plotters for mutiny/treason?

2) Why did he constitute a SMC without Northerners or Westerners?

3) Why did he bring up that useless unification decree?


He wasn’t a coup plotter. He warned those in power about an impending coup and he crushed the coup.

He was also a target in the coup.

I’ve attached the screenshots for your viewing pleasure.

Cc: Danvon
The faults you listed for Ironsi above actually logically suggest that he was sympathetic to the coup plotters assuming that he wasn't actually part of it. Here is the logic:
For item 1. If he wasn't sympathetic to the coupists, he would have arraigned them before a military tribunal and executed them.
2. His constituting an SMC without Northerners and Westerners mirrored the casually pattern of the coup in the sense that the membership of that SMC was Igbocentric just as the casualty pattern of the coup was Igbocentric.

3. The Unification Decree mirrored the intention of the coupists which, according to Nzeogwu in his interview with Ejindu few months later, was to create a stronger center.


For Ironsi to have warned people in power about the coup, it means he had intelligence information from a reliable source about the impending coup long enough before the D-Day, so what held him from being proactive about launching investigation into the brewing plot in order to preempt it? Why did he chose to be reactive after the damage had been done when he had all the foreknowledge of the coup?
PoliticsRe: Who Foiled The January 15, 1966 Coup? by Deadlytruth(m): 11:42pm On Jan 18, 2025
OkCornel:
At the bolded, one can only make speculations.
Ojukwu and Ironsi foiled the coup, according to historical accounts.
The only condition by which Ojukwu and Ironsi could have been said to have truly foiled the coup is if they had returned power to the civilians after stopping Ifeajuna and co.
Normally a military coup in a democracy ends up replacing that democracy with military rule. Ironsi s intervention ended up having exactly the same result (military takeover) as Nzeogwu/Ifeajuna coup would have had. So what difference did Ironsi's intervention really make?

To claim Ironsi foiled the coup is not logical at all. For illustration purpose, assume that armed robber A robbed you of some money and ran away but on his way he met armed robber B who robbed him too of the money and ran away too. Then you the overall loser begin to applaud armed robber B for foiling armed robber A's robbery attack on you when in actual fact that armed robber B did not return the money to you after taking it from armed robber A. Does that make sense?
PoliticsRe: Who Foiled The January 15, 1966 Coup? by Deadlytruth(m): 11:25pm On Jan 18, 2025
DMerciful:
All Nigerians supported the coup at first until BBC twisted it to an Igbo coup. Again, the specific officers acted on their own, they had zero votes and are dead.
You mean Northerners woke up to hear about a coup that had killed almost all their leading politicians and military officers and were happy with it but that it later took the BBC to change their minds?
PoliticsRe: Who Foiled The January 15, 1966 Coup? by Deadlytruth(m): 10:41pm On Jan 18, 2025
mrvitalis:
So you know the aim of the coup?

What was operation wetie n it's relationship to the coup sir
Operation Wetie was a protest against the unlawful intervention of the Balewa-Zik coalition government in the purely internal affair of the Western Region. So if the coup were really of any correlation to Operation Wetie, then both Balewa and Zik should have been killed instead of Balewa being killed while Zik was allowed to escape.
PoliticsRe: Who Foiled The January 15, 1966 Coup? by Deadlytruth(m):
DMerciful:
So you can punish the Kanuri people for Abacha sins?

You think the reprisals attacks were because of songs? What about the killings of the 40s and 50s of Igbos in the North? You're naive
I can bet you that Igbos saw nothing wrong with the 1940s and 1950s killings else they wouldn't have, at independence, chosen to go into an alliance which would put their killers in power. In addition the coupists didn't ever insinuate that their coup was staged in revenge for those killings of the 40s and 50s, rather they cited corruption in the corridors of power but ended up killing public office holders from other regions except theirs. Were politicians from their own region saints?
PoliticsRe: January 15, 1966: A Morning Of Murder, Mayhem And Carnage By FFK by Deadlytruth(m): 4:47pm On Jan 15, 2025
Nanalucky:
Was the story teller there when all this write up happened...how old was he....? Or he was told one sided story........we keep talking about we must come together as one to build a better country...like this?. With all this hate.... what course the coup....?. ...I am not saying I supported what happened....but in my government text book,I was told and read that the leaders were living big....someone had his clothes carried by a little boy..... where ever he was going to...... others were eating the national cake alone... corruption was in government..........the hen that laid the golden egg was given a pinch......why did Issac boro foght his 12 days fight?.... No body answered that.... what he fought for is still playing out till today...... what course the war is still playing out today...till we kill sentiments frm us...we can't get it right
These were the very unfounded allegations that inspired the ill-advised coup in the minds of the rather youthful exhuberance plagued majors. Which courts prosecuted those politicians and convicted them of such corruption? What evidence did the coupists rely on to reach the conclusion that those allegations were true? If anything, a person like Ahmadu Bello was later discovered to be using his salary in servicing a personal loan he took from a bank despite being a premier who could have simply solved his personal upkeep problems by dipping his hands into the Northern Region's funds directly.
PoliticsRe: January 15, 1966: A Morning Of Murder, Mayhem And Carnage By FFK by Deadlytruth(m): 4:37pm On Jan 15, 2025
gidgiddy:
Oh I see, Murtala Mohammed was honoured for killing over 300 people in his own coup by putting him on the N20 note, naming your busiest Airport after? Then you should have no problem with Nzeogwu. If Nzeogwu had been a Northerner, he might have been on the N10 note today
Did Murtala Muhammad kill soldiers from other parts of Nigeria and left soldiers from his own tribe untouched?
PoliticsRe: January 15, 1966: A Morning Of Murder, Mayhem And Carnage By FFK by Deadlytruth(m): 4:34pm On Jan 15, 2025
kettykin:
If their intentions was not to free Awolowo from the gulag and make him prime minister then why did they leave alive since every other political leader was killed.
According to the coupists themselves, their reason for the coup was to eliminate all the corrupt politicians in power. Now, was Awolowo part of the government to warrant the argument that he was supposed to have been targeted for killing?
PoliticsRe: January 15, 1966: A Morning Of Murder, Mayhem And Carnage By FFK by Deadlytruth(m): 2:30pm On Jan 15, 2025
kettykin:
No Igbo is crying here. What we’re witnessing is pure selective amnesia, FFK. You’ve conveniently jumped into the middle of the book, ignoring the critical beginning.

Let’s set the record straight: Awolowo was rotting in prison, serving time for treasonable felony—a lost cause in every sense of the word. Western Nigeria was under a state of emergency, chaos engulfed the region, and no one was weeping for him. Yet, here you are, fast-forwarding to a chapter where a group of military officers stepped in to restore order, conveniently skipping the blood-soaked prologue.

Even more hypocritical is your silence on Awolowo’s eventual forced suicide, a tragic culmination that elicited no national mourning. Or the thousands slaughtered during Operation Wetie, victims of unspeakable violence. Where were the tears then?

And now, you dare shed crocodile tears when soldiers tear each other apart but turn mute when the same horrors are inflicted on innocent civilians? Spare us the double standards. This is not selective memory—it’s deliberate hypocrisy.
Did Awolowo ever beg anyone to unlawfully intervene in his travails and free him at the expense of so much of innocent blood? Even the Yorubas who owned Awolowo and were therefore most pained about his imprisonment didn't ever think of taking up arms to kill innocent civilians and innocent high ranking army officers. So why on earth should any other ethnicity think they loved Awolowo more than his own people even to such an extent of shedding innocent blood here and there in the name of trying to free him which they still ended up failing to do? If those Igbo officers truly so loved Awolowo, then they shouldn't have minded killing even their own innocent politicians and army officers all in a bid to free him.
Please fabricate another excuse for the coup. This Awolowo centered excuse does not make common sense at all.
PoliticsRe: January 15, 1966: A Morning Of Murder, Mayhem And Carnage By FFK by Deadlytruth(m): 2:19pm On Jan 15, 2025
kettykin:
A fascinating story, but let’s dig deeper. What truly triggered this coup? Wasn’t its original intention to free Awolowo from prison and install him as prime minister? If so, why has history been distorted to present only one side of the story?

As usual, the one sides story seeks but to scapegoat the igbos. No one talks about another group of igbos led by Aguiyi Ironsi and Odumegwu Ojukwu that stepped in to restore government.
How come they stepped in to restore government yet their stepping in put in place a military junta as against the democratic government that was in place? What then is the meaning of restoration?
PoliticsRe: Throwback Photos From The Burial Of Aguiyi Ironsi In 1966 by Deadlytruth(m): 12:38pm On Jan 05, 2025
gidgiddy:
Igbo is one out of office over 200 tribes. You mean the rest of you wanted to recreate the white man's imposition and one tribe out of 200 stopped you? grin grin grin

It's like the same old garbage people keep spewing that it was one man called Zik that decided what will be in the Nigerian constitution and what will not be. One man

You guys can believe what you want to believe, but history has already taught us that the British colonial contraption called Nigeria has never worked
You can keep pretending not to understand imperialism politics which you have been lectured on severally here.
When an imperial power wants to impose a self serving but unpopular policy on their subject colonies, all they need is just one dissenting voice among the other subjects resisting it. . It is not a thing of force to warrant wondering how Zik and Igbos alone could achieve it when almost over 200 other tribes wanted it. Rather it is a matter of imperialistic British overlords seeking a moral justification for imposing a perpetual union on Nigeria, and this moral justification is in the context that the people are not unanimous in their rejection of it. When all the three regions wanted independence unanimously, didn't the colonial overlords grant it? But when the North was still undecided about it amidst the acceptance of the two other regions, did they grant it? A big NO. Therefore if Zik and Igbos had agreed with the rest Nigerians on secession clause, the white man would have lacked the moral justification to criminalize it. I hope you get it now and will not again come up tomorrow with this line of how Zik and Igbos alone could successfully prevent the other 200 tribes from having their way.
PoliticsRe: Denying Igbo Presidency Over Secession Attempts Is Unfair – Obasanjo by Deadlytruth(m): 12:28pm On Jan 05, 2025
Brendaniel:
So what is the solution ?
Two options:

1. Nigeria should split through a motion in the National Assembly

2. Nigeria should return to the Independence constitution by which each region is genuinely autonomous but this time the states as presently constituted will take the place of the regions.
PoliticsRe: Throwback Photos From The Burial Of Aguiyi Ironsi In 1966 by Deadlytruth(m):
gidgiddy:
The British came from Europe to West Africa to create Nigeria. Now it is those that they made Nigerians that are fighting civil war, killing themselves in the millions, shouting that Nigerian unity is for forever, just to uphold an mere colonial creation of the white man from Europe

It's a tragedy, it also shows that black Africans are still too backward to realise that they should be creating their own countries, not fighting and killing each other over the one the white man came from Europe to create for them.
But when we wanted to recreate our own countries away from the whiteman's imposition, you Igbos who thwarted it in defference to me same white man are now the ones hypocritically pontificating on the need to resist the white man. You seem not to know how much hypocrisy pains and how natural it is for people to inconvenience themselves to prove a point to hypocrites.

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