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afam4eva: Let's ignore the moronic dingbats

Bros, you got it perfectly okay.

I say happy birthday to Chinua Achebe, one of the greatest men of my world. Achebe is an institution and intellectual powerhouse.

On my honor as Igbo chap, I regard every inch of Alaigbo as Pride of Igbo land. I do not know the subjective nature of the word- East as it appears on the thread.

PhysicsQED: The point I am making is that contrary to what you might assume, not everyone who has mentioned atrocities committed by the federal troops or by the Biafrans has adopted this particular criterion of yours - specifying the name of the unit and commander - as something necessary to establish that murders were committed against civilians.

Furthermore, what is the "test of scrutiny"? What is the test, who is administering it, and what is required to establish beyond a doubt that something happened? I don't even see how merely naming a commander of a unit and a unit's name proves that something happened or that this commander or unit actually did something - the testimony of those affected by their actions seems to be what is really important - yet you use this as some kind of guideline to establish that certain atrocities were real, while other atrocities (including those by federal troops) are just mere claims from people and the people mentioning them should simply "shut up." An eyewitness account which describes people being pointed out to federal troops for executions or which describes Biafran atrocities without specifying the unit or the commander's name is of far more value as far as corroborating a story than someone just mentioning the name of a town or city, the unit that was in that city, and the commander's name.




So basically if a man was the manager of a plantation, and Biafran soldiers killed him during the occupation while looting and suddenly after the invasion his child is fatherless, the son should, 40 years later, exhume the body from its grave (assuming they even found the body and buried it 40 years ago), subject it to a full autopsy (basically, mutilate the body) to try to recover bullet fragments, take these bullet fragments to some weapons expert to try and have them identified, and after somehow establishing that the bullets would have been in use circa 1967 by Biafran soldiers, try and track down Biafran soldiers (if they are still alive) of the exact unit that was in that area to see if they would admit to it?

Is that totally impossible scenario your idea of obtaining "evidence"? Or what is your idea of "evidence"? Is saying "This Biafran unit was in this or that area during this particular time that this atrocity happened and the name of the commander of the unit is such and such, therefore atrocities were committed by that unit. . ." what you consider "evidence"?




No, not every unit would be uniquely distinguishable to civilians. The uniforms of the soldiers in that war on both sides from available pictures did not at all look as if they all had unique insignia on each uniform indicating their unit because even with close up, full pictures of some of these soldiers (Biafran and Nigerian), I certainly can't see any unique insignia on the uniforms of most ordinary soldiers that would easily distinguish one group from another.

Also, in case you somehow haven't grasped this, only the Biafrans were acutely aware of exactly where each specific unit of their army was in the Midwest during the occupation - they did not publish a list for distribution to the civilian population informing them of what area each unit would be in, the name of the commander of that unit and on what days they would be where because that would be an absurd thing to do.



This is easily one of the most ridiculous things I've read on this forum, but I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and analyze it as though it were an even remotely reasonable claim worth discussing in detail.

This image below is of Biafran officer's rank insignia:

https://www.philip-effiong.com/biafrapips.jpg

(The image is from Philip Effiong Jr.'s website where he identifies them as such, so if you have any issue with what they are said to be, then take it up with him.)

a) Are you claiming that every soldier was wearing an insigne such as the ones above (or a simpler one, not made out of metal, but out of cloth, like the one Rolf Steiner wore) on their uniform?

b) Are you actually trying to tell me that a non-Biafran civilian would have had any idea what the insignia of certain soldiers meant as far as names of individual units? I doubt they would even have understood what any insignia meant as far as rank, not to talk of insignia for specific units.

c) Do you actually think that insignia indicate the exact unit involved to someone who is a civilian and has not been told beforehand what the insignia are meant to indicate?

d) Assuming that each unit of soldiers was distinguishable by some very unique insignia, and not looking like many of the soldiers in those civil war pictures where no unique insignia are clearly visible on the majority of them, who is supposed to know what the insignia of a particular unit are or what name they correspond to, and assuming such information was actually visible, what civilian would even have time to note such information while fearing or fleeing for their life?

Is an ordinary laborer, mechanic, farmer, etc. supposed to know what one insigne corresponds to in terms of the name of the unit? In your view, was every person suddenly some kind of intelligence operative just because their land had been invaded?

e) Since you claim a non-Biafran civilian with no familiarity with Biafran army organization and insignia should have been able to identify the unit that Biafran soldiers belonged to, then as an expert, with much more time available to you, and many more resources and connections at your disposal, identify the unit that these Biafran soldiers were in, post-haste:

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/ca/BiafranSoldiersInAsaba.jpg

And each of these men?:

https://www.philip-effiong.com/Biafrans.jpg

https://www.philip-effiong.com/BiafranSoldiers.jpg

[img]http://beegeagle.files./2010/07/v6k9ol.jpg[/img]

https://news.bbc.co.uk/olmedia/1605000/images/_1608188_military300.jpg


Your claim is that if you were an ordinary civilian and any of these men in the photographs above were around you, you would be able to tell the exact unit that they're from because of some supposedly visible unique unit insignia. Since that's what you're saying then prove it. Say what units these men are from and give some support or proof that they are from the units you say they are from. This is a very simple request. If you can't point out the unit-identifying insignia that you claim every soldier wore and identify the units that each and every one of these Biafran soldiers are in, then I don't think you have a point.



Who said the killings all took place in the night? What are you talking about? Stop looking for excuses. It's amazing that you could think of calling me a "denial artist" when you can pull this scenario out of your hat in search of an avenue through which to construct a denial.

One of the reasons I navigate to this forum is to punch holes on bags of innuendos which have been planted on Nigerian society by the denial artists with regard to Nigeria\Biafra civil war. I would not have wasted my time glancing through the fictitious nonsense about Biafran soldiers massacring civilians in mdwestern region if the shameless postulators had alerted us they formed such opinion from doctored pictures instead of eye witness accounts.

It is rather unfortunate PhysicsQED could not grasp the idea why military units are divided into units and wore insignia of major military branch. From your post, I doubt you understood the difference between certain military insignia and appearance of rank. Even from the doctored photographs in the the above post anybody with eye problem can discern the soldiers wore arm badges of Biafra’s raising sun. Once the fact is established the soldiers were indeed Biafrans, it is easy to determine the unit operating in certain area of the war zone through intelligent gathering. It has been more than forty years the war ended yet the wishful thinkers mainly the denial artists have failed to come up with iota of plausible evidence to back up their idiotic accusation that Biafran soldiers massacred civilians in midwestern region.

I did not know that Nigerians who fought against Biafra were dumbazz eggheads who tend to wait for Biafra to publish the position of its fighting units in order for them to determine which unit committed an atrocity. I guess Nigerian army went to the airwave to inform the world that certain units of 3MCDO or 2nd Division or 1st Division will engage Biafran units on particular time and place. What a moronic conjecture. Biafra had intelligent units which shadowed every move of the vandals. It is safe to say that Biafra’s eye witness narrators were more intelligent than Nigerians who tend to sleep walk. Biafran civilians and authorities did not go to God in order to discern that elements from 3MCDO committed atrocity in Ogba\Egbama, or elements from 2nd Division of Nigerian army committed atrocity in Asaba and Obosi.

Again, if those of you who tend to fan innuendos and falsehood about the massacre of civilians in midwestern region by Biafran soldiers can not provide an iota of evidence, I suggest you shut the hell up. It is idiotic for anybody to wake up in the morning and attribute such heinous crime to Biafran soldiers without a tiny form of evidence.

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Nigeria is neither a developing nor 3rd world country but 5th world country.

PhysicsQED: Dede1, I was talking about all military atrocities committed in the Midwest during the war. That you've decided to limit the atrocities under discussion to only those that took place under certain circumstances is your own choice. Not everyone has to accept that choice. And just to make sure I'm reading this right, are you admitting that "materials" were also a significant motivation for atrocities committed? If we agree on this, then maybe you'll understand that the murders committed in the course of looting are also considered atrocities and you'll stop this nonsense you've been promoting about no Biafran atrocities happening in the Midwest.

Also, are you sure you're comprehending what I said? You seem to think, simply because people are able to identify the units and commanders for some of the places where atrocities occurred, that every atrocity committed can just have a commander's name and unit attached to it easily as if the soldiers were all walking around with huge signs on their foreheads which indicated their name, unit and their unit's leader for civilian populations to use to identify them. Over a year ago, when, in the course of an argument, I was being informed about what federal troops did in Igbodo and other towns, I wasn't told the exact names of the units or those in command of those units and it didn't even seem relevant. Are you actually claiming that someone would need to supply those names and units before their account of what happened would be accepted?

As for the rest of your comment, it doesn't seem to directly address what I posted nor do I see how commenting on misleading claims or bizarre reasoning about the Biafran atrocities amounts to defending the federal troops' atrocities or other atrocities. Are you going to address the points I raised or not? If you are actually claiming that the only atrocities that happened during the war are those for which a commander and unit can be named, then come out and say so and stop beating around the bush. If that is really what you're claiming then there's not really a point in trying to discuss things any further.

Anybody whose statement can not stand the test of scrutiny should shut up. It is a display of idiocy to accuse Biafra army of atrocity when the accuser can not even proffer an iota of evidence to support such nonsensical conjecture. It is not just for fun that military is divided into units with distinguishable insignia to match. In addition, war zones are also divided into sectors for a very good reason.

I guess you are the only individual on earth who does not know that soldiers wear insignia of their unit and even trucks and other military equipments are marked accordingly. This is the reason the so-called eye witness account does not need to include the name of the soldiers. If the massacre took place in the night, it is foolhardy for any person to conclude Biafran soldiers were responsible.

PhysicsQED: After the federal recapture of the Midwest, killings occurred in more places than just at Asaba. Are you actually claiming that unless those that massacred Mid-west Igbos in places other than Asaba are identified by the name of the unit and its highest ranking officer, that the killings didn't actually happen? This is just terrible reasoning any way you look at it.

I don't know how people can think every soldier in every war who commits an atrocity can be identified by civilians. That's a completely ridiculous claim and point of view. Anyway, the vast majority of people, whether Igbo or non-Igbo, are not callous enough to dismiss and just reject the testimony of people from some Delta Igbo areas who come forward today with their accounts of what happened back then without such information, so the lack of identification of commanding officers and units never seems to matter. But in the case of non-Igbo Midwesterners, certain people on the internet and in real life seem unable to come to grips with reality and start imagining that they can just dismiss what happened by dismissing the source or claiming that those who were attacked or killed should have kept a directory or index of the names and units of the Biafran soldiers around them.

By the way, on the Midwest, it is naive to assume that Nigerian Midwesterners were the only ones who witnessed the Biafran atrocities that occurred. In the case of the Biafran atrocities in the Midwest, we have at least one confirmation from a foreigner of one of the atrocities (there were others still besides the one that this foreigner mentions), yet people still want to delude themselves about what really happened. Anyway, when brainwashed people are confronted with the truth, it will probably just be dismissed as being part of some anti-Biafran conspiracy no matter where it's coming from.

The above post is a brazen attempt by denial artist to sit truthful historical fact on its head. We are discussing the massacre perpetrated by frustrated units of soldiers who had incurred losses in term of human and materials in their failed bid to accomplish a task and turn their frustration and weapons on civilian whom they blamed for their cowardice and inadequacies. The Asaba, Ogba\Egbema and Obosi stood as glaring examples of such display of cowardice and inadequacies by armed units of Nigerian armed forces.

The incidences that took place in Sapele, Warri, Benin City and Agbo were born out of ethnic hatred and blind rage carried out by Non-Igbo peeps to placate their northern masters of Hausa, Fulani, Kanuri, Tiv, Nupe, etc. In Warri and Sapele, it must be recall that members of 8th battalion stood watch and encouraged the non-Igbo in those cities to lynch the defenseless Igbo. The history repeated itself at Benin City and Agbo as elements from 4th Brigade of 2nd Division under Captain Yara Adua encourage non-Igbo to lynch Igbo peeps.

The massacre in Asaba was carried out by the units from the 8th brigade of 2nd division of Nigerian armed forces under the command of Lt Col Francis Ayisida. The Ogba\Egbema massacre was perpetrated by units from 15th Brigade of 3MCDO of Nigerian armed forces under the command of Major Olu Makanjuola. The killing of 300 church worshippers at Obosi was carried by units from 4th and 6th brigades of 2nd division under the command of Lt Col Murtala Mohammed. This incident happened when 11th division of Biafaran army was in hot pursuit of Murtala Mohammed and his men after the Abagana debacle.

It is unconscionable for any individual to even insinuate putting up a defense for what happened in Sapele, Warrri, Benin City and Agbo during the dark hours of Nigerian history. It is fine with me but I must attest that Ndigbo shall never forget.

Katsumoto: Your opinion of me has been dimming since we started debating; I would have thought that by now, you have no favourable opinion of me.

Funny comment about finance native medicine practice.

I suppose the non-Igbo folks in the mid-west were also lying about atrocities committed by Biafran troops? What were they trying to finance?

No, you are far from the truth as usual. Even if you tend to drop the ball occasionally, there is a bright spot about you.

To finance the robber plantation destroyed by the uncoordinated shelling of Nigerian army artillery batteries.

Katsumoto: Biafra provided names because you folks like to cry too much.

In any case, it depends on the scale of the atrocities. It is easier to identify commanders when the presence is large but difficult when the presence is low. If a lieutenant and Colonel commit war crimes, who is more likely to be identified?

Second, Nigerian commanders would have been more careless in their atrocities while Biafran atrocities would have been more concealed to avoid an uprising. Try to put everything into perspectives. But I know you are unlikely to agree anyway.

Kats, you are a very funny chap. The above conjecture is laughable. I thought you were among the few shining lights from the opposite aisle. I guess my take on the scenario went to the left field. Anyway, I shall urge you to come to terms that no such thing happened. I can dictate a panhandler from afar. Dr BJ Imkeme wanted finance to rekindle his\her native herbal healing practice and decided that bearing falsehood against Biafra is much easier than the hassle from the banks.

afam4eva: Why do you guys see everything from a tribal angle? If Zik had removed a fellow Igbo man, the healdines would have probably read "ZIK replaces removes Mr Uche" but when he removes an efik man without doing so because of the man's ethnicity, it will announced about how an Igbo man removed an efik man due to tribalism.

You keep calling Igbos whiners yet i've never seen a prominent Yoruba man make a speech without mentioning june 12 despite the fact that they were awarded with the presidency to correct what befell them. Is it not hypocrisy that you're guilty of what you accuse other of?

Please do not engage anybody in a debate over Zik and Eyo Ita political saga. The truth of the matter was Zik did not have the power to remove Prof. Eyo Ita as head of government in the defunct eastern region of Nigeria.

afam4eva: I wonder how much Dr BJ Imkeme was paid to spew this rubbish. I wonder why there's no record of brutality committed by Biafrans anywhere yet some people will keep pushing this lie. At least there's a record of the Asaba massacre and people who were somehow affected have come out to say what they know with evidence.

This is one of the cardinal reasons I continually call for disintegration of Nigeria. Only a fool can not discern folly imbedded in the crap written by one goofy Dr BJ Imkeme. Sometimes, I wonder aloud how on earth some of these dingbats parading as doctors got their degrees.

The fool in Dr. BJ Imkeme was able to remember the names of everybody and every place in his show of shame from Dr. Njoku, Rear Admiral JEA Wey, Brigadier E Ekpo, Chief Holes, Dr Graham-Douglas, Mr. Efiong Spatts, Mr. Ekpenyong, Ikot Okpot, Attan Onoyon, Enoing, Okpo to Asang. Yet the moronic dingbat that appends DR to his\her name forgot to give the names of the commanders or the battalion or brigade or division of Biafran armed forces involved in the massacre of Efik\Ibibio\Ananng in Calabar sector.

It must be recall that the two brigades which operated in the Calaber sector of the Nigeria\Biafra civil war were commanded by the two of the Biafra’s best field commanders during the era in discussion and both hailed from Calabar sector.

In contrast to this childish joke, Biafra proffered the names of brigades and the commanders who were involved with the massacres of civilians in Asaba, Ogba\Egbema and Obosi.

Abagworo: Akabo is a different village not in any way regarded as Owerri. This is just like going to a village along the bad. Portion of Benin-Lagos expressway and labeling it Lagos. It is better you use "Imo" instead of "Owerri". Otherwise one day people will take pictures from Obigbo. Okrika and Aba calling it Port Harcourt.

I do not know the extent of official territory regarded as Port Harcourt Capital Territory or developmental zone however to the best of my knowledge, Owerri has 15 miles radius. I do not see anything wrong if Obigbo shall become the greater Port Harcourt Territory. Who envisaged that Iddo, Ikorodu, Epe, Shomolu, Apapa, Eko, Lekki, Lagos Island, Badagry and even Ota shall become or enjoy the developmental spread engender by Lagos as capital territory of Nigeria.

FACE: Akabo is not in Owerri capital territory and I am sure that you will notice the sign that says welcome to owerri capital territory just after the bridge at Ugwu Orji,which is about 5Km from Akabo. That part of Imo is densely populated going towards Anara,Okwelle, Uruala,Ideato, Orlu and there is no clear distinction between nearby towns, therefore any visitor can be forgiven for thinking that Akabo,Atta,Ikeduru and other nearby towns are in Owerri. That is also the case going towards Mbaise-Umuahia.

That road is a federal road linking Owerri to Enugu and Okigwe and blaming Rochas will be equivalent to blaming chime for not fixing the express way from Agbani or Awgu to Enugu.

However, the road is a sorry sight, judging from that picture you posted and I agree with you that the governor should do something about it regardless of who owns the road.

I have never known it to be that bad. The last time I used that road was 2.5 years ago when I went to Mbano for a traditional wedding and although there was a heavy wedding-wrecking downpour, there was no flooding as we used that road.

I asked someone about that road today and he told me that Rochas inspected the road himself and has undertaken to fix the road even though it is a federal road, but some houses may have to go to make way for a run off drainage. So let's watch this space.

Owerri capital territory is pegged at 15 miles radius from center to outer. It means that Atta is even included in Owerri Capital Territory talk less of Akabo. The issue remains the new sectional and idiotic policies adopted by Rochas Okorocha who thought Owerri municipal is Owerri Capital Territory therefore had used such myopic yardstick to move everything from Owerri to Orlu. I am not saying that Orlu should not be remembered in a scheme of things politically but he should not have attempted the move of IMSU to Ogboko, Ideato South LGA in the pretence that Owerri has run out of space.

biafranbaby: As soon as he said ibos in the fourth paragraph, I knew exactly where he was coming from and where he was going.

It is unfortunate that blind hatred could not allow certain moronic ninnies to discern conjectures from realities. The New York Times organization contracted certain ethnic minorities in Nigeria to speak against Biafra and Ndigbo in 1967.

Valon4ego: perhaps you can elucidate further. Not sure i understand you

What was termed the first profession known to mankind? And what was the reason behind woman circumcision? Why are the majority of groups that originally stood opposition against woman circumcision mostly ladies? Did western civilization play a major part in calls to abolish woman circumcision? What about human beings need to control the action of another?

If you can piece the answers to these questions together, you shall begin to understand my plank.

Personally, I detest the idea of circumcising a woman because of its original intent.

werepeLeri: Thats how a monkey like you thinks.

From the post above, there is no doubt a monkey arrives at a better deduction than you.

sleekdot: In summary New Yorkers also hate Igbos just like Yorubas, Hausas Beroms, Ijaws, Malaysians Tivs, etc

Only a moronic dingbats will equate Biafra with Igbo and go further to expatiate their idiocy with silly examples too.

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The thread is an example of doll mind working on emptiness due to ill form of education. Even some villages in Siberia and Alaska are not ethnically homogenous talk less of a place qualified to be called a city.

If this nonsense is meant to lend support to the school of thought that more diversified a country the greater aspect of prosperity, it has failed. Anyway, the plank is dead on arrival. The most prosperous countries in the world are those formed through a dominant culture by the people of ethnic homogeneity.

After the formation stage of such countries by unique people of homogeneous identity, any form of diversity in population of the country that followed, without raising any conflict in already established way of life of people, can not be attributed as growth factor.

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There has never been anything good from The New York Times about Biafra. The media organization stopped short of sending its staffs as soldiers to fight for Nigeria. It is not a surprise New York Times allowed a goofy bit writer to conjure such a nonsensical crap.

Ngodigha: Except Fela, Soyinka, Tomakint, Gbawe and Gani Fahweimi and Okunoba and Olabukola.

As my Igbo ancestral straits would I allow me to say, Lt Col. Ayo Ariyo, Wole Soyinka and Ijabu Ode cocoa farmers assoc\Agbakoya are the greatest Yoruba person(s) that have ever walked the surface of earth.

From the above list, the only characters worthy of such compliment are Soyinka and Tomakint.

Anybody from the so-called south-south who attempts to deny his\her Igbo ancestral identity did so under the pressure of inferior mentality, trying to impress distracters, due to the outcome of Nigeria\Biafra civil war, in order to be accepted by deceitful enemies and inherent laziness.

Human beings suddenly became deluded, injected academia into human nature and turned life on earth into a thing of vanity. Act of sex became a very locative business and people demanded equal amount of ecstasy.

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It is because of nuts such as you who think a person of African ancestry is “black”. No human being is either black or white.

From Ozodi Osuji’s writing flair, I concluded there is Yoruba in him. They always try to come across as legitimate undertakers but full of bull crap.

Balkan: The birth Ozodi was so controversial that the middle name THOMAS was given by the mother Titi bc every body in the family was doubting the paternity of Ozodi.

Their real family name is Nwosuji.

Does he know his real family name?

Ngodigha: WHILE YOUR HAWOLOWO WAS BUSY WITH YOUR PEOPLE HERE, FOOL

No wonder Yoruba seem to be deadly sacred whenever the need to disintegrate Nigeria is mentioned. The kids in this picture appeared already malnourished in the time of peace. What would happen if southwestern Nigeria is under military siege for a month?

Balkan: It's the truth my brother we are from the same village.
Just verify this. De Osuji has an Igbo wife. Titi has another child a girl both Ozodi and Chika are living in the US. Madan Titi is late, she was buried in Osun state.

Igbo people said that when a diety becomes so stubbon and proud, you show him the tree he was calved out from.

I learnt Thomas Osuji has been declared persona non grata at the village level. I do not know if the declaration made him permanent sojourner in Portland, Oregon. It is unfortunate that a person without a wife or family chose northwestern USA as place of abode.

[quote author=One_Naira]I don't know much about the man but I have read one of his article and one thing that stood out to me in the article was where he mentioned we call ourselves Igbo but they call us Fake Igbos. Now reading this your statement that he used to be pro-igbo. It explains alot. Someone from SE probably said something that hit harder than a punch on a stomach.[/quote]Bros, if someone who had enough to drink calls a person “fake Igbo” and the addressee starts acting like a fake, the addresser saw the sign of fake on the addressee. I am Igbo and there is no amount of name-calling such as “fake Igbo” will spur me to behave like a fake or deny my ancestral identity.

In fact, I do not blame anybody but the contraption called Nigeria. Nigeria must be disintegrated for real nation states to be formed.

agbotaen: 1. is igbo an ethnic group? if the ansewer is yes then anioma too can become an ethnic group if we say so , as igbo was crafted with the help of europeans ,just like yoruba and others including my beloved ika ethnic group , and i know this will hurt many igbos .
2. ika people dont have identity crisis it is igbos that are suffering from hallucination of thinking ika is igbo , and may be your people want to build a new empire , when benin empire has even falling .and sokoto caliphate is no more.
please wake up , even during the time of benin empire , it was ika people that were batlling them in most cases .
3. you are making a vague claim , which ika obi is a member of ohazneze ndigbo ? please mention his name and kingdom in ika ? and it shows you are just an igbo man from accross the river niger ,and you are not from delta , because if you are you will know that ndokwa people dont have obi , what they have is okpala-uku,so get that .
4. please igbo people were are you people from ?
igbos claim they are from nri
2. they claim they are from igbo ukwu
3. igbos also claim they are from isreal ,
as an all knowing race ,who can tell ika people where they come from , please where are you from

People of Ika are from Edo. They were runaway slaves who escaped the death swords of ritual practitioners. They were very lucky to have sneaked under the radar of Ishan.

Baby mama: How many of you commenting has read the said book?
No wonder oyibo people say if one wants to hide info from a black man,put it in a book
What a pity
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I have a copy and read it from hardcover to hardcover.

shymexx: However, he created the code of conduct for the ministry, and he was the brain behind the propaganda that earned them the biggest propaganda machine ever, at that time in history...

Achebe-ism = propaganda - hence, why he's a world acclaimed fictional writer...

The worse propaganda noticed during and after Nigeria\Biafra war came from Yoruba land. In fact, some of the propagandas were childish and laughable. For example, the crap that surrounds Francis Fajuiyi wanting and begging the July 29, 1966 coup participants to die with Ironsi. What a joke.