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[quote author=Sisi_Kill]Again you are an AZZ!!!

Even if some folks have turned it to something else in the past, does that mean she will? How do you summarily dismiss someone's worthy efforts just because others. . .people she is not associated with, did it wrong. Only a BORN FOOOOL thinks like that and I shudder at the very though that people like you are out there walking among regular folks.

Again I ask. . .Do you think the helpless are going to say, don't come and help us because in the past others have come and nothing came out of it? In your wildest reta.rded imagination. . .do you see a situation where a sick person, who is near death, asking if credit has been given to everyone who helped him before he takes what is being offered?!!

Only an Eejit like you will think "getting credit" is the the most important aspect of helping others.[/quote]There is no doubt an AZZ is better you. The Ogugwu88 whom seem to celebrate has opinionated that Anambra State is teeming with kidnappers. I hope she needs to think more about being a victim of kidnapping in Anambra State than wasting time on her goofy medical mission. Maybe the medical mission she is thinking about should benefit kidnappers.

I never insinuated people should not help destitute people as you would onlookers to believe. However, you do not have to denigrate the people whom you wish to help by bearing idiotic opinions about them. Only moronic numskull treats everything under the sphere of mankind with loaded emotions and sentiments. Based on what Ogugwu88 had said about Anambra State and acts of kidnapping, I shall advise her to stay away from Anambra State and Alaigbo.

On patriotic note, she can channel her wonderful efforts on medical mission to states such as Kaduna, Zamfara, Kogi and Taraba States in Nigeria instead of Anambra State. By the way, only douche bags such as you are consumed with the thought of “getting credit”, olodo.

texazzpete: So this bitter old f00l is still alive?
YOU are a disgrace to your tribe. Bitter, crusty old m0r0ns like you are only a millstone around the neck of Ndigbo. All you thrive on is spreading your m0r0nic gospel of hatred and despair.

If you do not know anyone who has followed through with a project as noble as what Ogugua is planning to do, does that mean she MUST be a sham too? Tell me again who is working to bring down Igbo people.

Better she spends time on the Romance section with lighthearted banter than to be like you...a sad, mean little man who will not rest until his fellow Igbos are funneled through his vision of hatred and despair.

The world has turned and left you behind, old f00l.

It is prudent you shut up your mouth, old fool. Honestly, I do not care what rotten opinion Oguguw88 bears. However, I implore her not to develop sick stomach on the opinions other people may have about her. Are you not moronically idiotic to get twisted because people had opinion about Oguguw88? Yet it is fine with you if she had opinion regardless how awkward such opinion appears.

Anybody who had an opinion that Alaigbo is jam-packed with heartless kidnappers should not harbor plans to embark on medical mission to such a place. Oguguw88 can not eat her cake and have it. I hope she will not be kidnapped on her way to deliver her imaginary medical mission. Maybe her intended medical mission to Alaigbo is for kidnappers, olodo. What a bast.ard.

I do not give a ratazz about her nonsensical Eze Nwanyi NL but have issues with her arrogation of Nigeria’s social decadence such kidnapping as Igbo affairs. Of course, a jackass such as you would be gladden that Igbo image is publically tarnished by lazy hole such as Ogugwu88.

[quote author=Sisi_Kill]You are such an azz for this post. I have never been so pissed off from something I read online. So because she is seeking donation for the medical mission she wants to embark on, it is not a worthy endearvour? If she does not use her own blood and sweat to fund this mission, then it does not count? Do you have any sense at all?!!

Tell me do you think the people who are gonna be helped give a rats azz where the money is coming from? Do you think someone who is suffering from HIV/AIDS will turn down medicine because it didn't come from the pocket of the people helping them?!! Do you think a mother whose child is at the point of death will pause long enough to ask where the money is coming from?

People like you are the reason our country is in the shitty state it is. You sit in the comfort of your freaking home, with your healthy, well fed children and deny others a small measure of that comfort because you have it your head that you know in what manner help should reach them.

Maybe if you spent more time at the romance section, there is a small chance you might be half as intelligent as the young woman you so arrogantly dismiss. On second thoughts, I wouldn't hold my breath. . .it is obvious your level of idiocy has gone past the point of no return.

Stooopid Azz.[/quote]The post above shows you are a celebrated dunce. There was no place in my post that remotely suggested that such mission should not be funded through donations but had qualms with few individuals who had eyes on political patronages in Nigeria beside the main ideas that spurred the medical mission.

A medical mission should be patriotic and humanistic endeavor however some folks have turned it into something else. An organization in USA organized such mission with strict instructions of how to go about it in Nigeria. However, the people who led the mission turned it into political\social fanfare with the governor of their state in-tow. They did not only abandon the strict instruction given to them on how to distribute the medicines and equipment, the so-called medical missionaries channeled the efforts to their individual clans.

I do not give a ratazz if one person uses his\her money or medicine and apparatus he\she single-handily collected from donors to embark on medical mission to his\her clan or flaunt such occasion as political or social gatherings in Nigeria. However, I have issue when such medical mission was as a result of collective effort only for few individuals to turn it into a personal and political show in Nigeria.

I had been involved with the so-called medical missions and know how good intentions were misdirected by few missionary teams. It is prudent to ignore your outburst laden with idiotic sentiments and emotions as demonstrated in your post. The only sign of stupidity is you.

shymexx: If being Igbo is about living in denial - then, Ogugua88 should be impeached...

However, if being Igbo is about being a realist and telling it as it is - then, Ogugua88 should be allowed to continue as the Ezenwanyi of alaigbo on NL...

The choice is yours, Igbo people!

Please shut up your putrid mouth for once. The issue under discussion is not about denial but measured sense of prudence from loudmouthed jackasses such as you. There is no doubt a kidnapper exists in your family but you hardly pronounce it here.

[quote author=~Bluetooth]This is the problem with you village ibos.simply because this lady pointed out the bitter truth to you,ya'll now see her as anti/ibo.Is osisikanku not an iboman ? i only wish this lady can denounce her iboness entirely maybe ya'll will be happy by then.[/quote]You are beyond morally pathetic. I do not blame a dirty swine such as you but egghead such as Ogugua88.

I guess Adeniola Lanre is Igbo or OPC aka Kidnappers Incorporated is an Igbo organization. Even though Yoruba are loudmouthed bunch, they tend to know when and how to open their mouths. It is very hard to read the names of Yoruba suspects with respect to kidnapping incidences in Yoruba land from newspapers based in Yoruba land.

However, it is a different case when one picks up a newspaper from media house based in southeastern part of Nigeria. The out-of-control and moronic editors such as Ogugua88 will not only give the names of suspects in the case of kidnap but names of their grandparents, villages and clans.

texazzpete: You tribalistic scum are so PETTY, I swear.

This 'bunker mentality' will not serve anyone. Biafra is a dead dream, Nigeria is all you have FOR NOW.

Such petty, childish sniveling! Leave the lady alone.

This is the same lady that plans to come to Anambra state next year for a free medical expedition. This is the same lady that wants to improve her medical skills to great levels then come back and open a clinic in Anambra and Delta to provide free or low cost medical care. She will impact a lot of Igbos by her actions...Aside from your e-warfare and shouting matches on Nairaland, what have most of you lazy lot done for your tribe? What are your plans?

Such a noble spirit in one so young...and you demonize her because she fails to toe the ultra-hardline path you set for yourself. M0r0ns.

I suggest you shut up your putrid traps for once, olodo. The so-called medical mission is a calculated fraud. People involved with that practical joke will not tell you the hidden agenda behind such endeavor. I have personally challenged few of them to embark on the so-called medical mission through the sweat of their labor not collection of alms or donation of unwanted drugs and apparatus. If they were really patriotic and have no eyes on the political and social patronages in Nigeria, the doctors\nurses\etc from Anambra State should make the medical pilgrimage to Oyo State and those from Oyo State should journey to Kaduna State. Or they should endeavor to perform the so-called medical mission solely on the expenses out of their pockets.

If Anambra State is waiting for a person such as Ogugua88, who is struggling mightily with public health program because of time she spends on “Romance Section” of this forum to bring medical manna to the state, I guess Anambra State will wait for a very long time. I shall not entrust the wellbeing of my house pet in the care of a person who bears illogical opinions detrimental to oneself such as Ogugua88. After all, it takes a criminal to catch another. Since Ogugua88 knew that all the kidnappings in Nigeria are sourced by Ndigbo, it safe to say that Ogugua88 and her relatives are behind the nuisance generated by acts of kidnappings in Nigeria. Only m0r0ns such as you will utter opinions that suggest you are a moronic dingbat.

[quote author=ndu_chucks]Then why don't you people let her be I'm sure in your Abriba village, you show how much you cherish your intelligent daughters by making sure that you keep then silent and subservient. People like you will never even raise a finger to treat your women to breakfast in bed, because you are too much of a "man" to do so. dolo[/quote]You are deadly funny with the slide of treating a woman with breakfast. Do you understand the nuances which surround a titled man in Igbo land? Ndigbo love their girls to be smart but not bearing goofy opinions unbecoming of their status in the society.

[quote author=ndu_chucks]Aru o na-aya gi? The answer is an emphatic Yes.

You people are not used to being outsmarted, outreasoned, by a lady so you go off on your seseless criticisms of your Eze nwanyi. I have news for you, a female governor will probably be the governor that will bails you out of your misery.[/quote]You sure know that Ndigbo are very proud of their daughters especially when such individual tends to compete with their male counterparts in certain areas of human endeavor. I guess you have wasted an Internet bandwidth with your trolling about senseless criticism of Ogugua88 because she is smart. If there is one thing Igbo person cherishes very much, it is the essence of having smart and intelligent daughters.

It is very unfathomable behavior for properly raised Igbo peeps to insinuate that the nuisance of kidnappers in Nigeria is sourced by Ndigbo. There are kidnapper’s problems everywhere in Nigeria. In my opinion, it is one of the social decadences occupying Nigeria and can not be remotely attributed to one particular ethnic group. It is acceptable act for an individual to have opinion as long as such opinion is not detrimental to certain group of people. There is wisdom in bearing responsible opinions.

Tunjman: 1. PATRIOTISM: All Americans in front of the white house held/waved the American flag as soon as the result was announced. A guy displayed
placard with the inscription 'America is working'...The Nigerian flag would have been exchanged for either bunch of brooms or umbrella here and the inscription 'America is working' would have been 'Goodluck Shamed his enemies'

2.SPORTSMANSHIP: Mitt Romney never waited for 24 hours before accepting defeat and congratulating Barack Obama neither did the republican party declare 'observing the outcome of the election before taking possible action'...Here, the loser would have gone to the tribunal before the result is declared and even when court uphold the election of the winner, no congratulatory message will be sent across.

3.RESPONSIBLE MEDIA: Throughout the election period, US based CNN, the BBC, Aljazeera, Fox News and all other notable media around the world were all pre-occupied reporting situation across America...Our Nigerian Television Authority (NTA) would rather televise the osun oshogbo festival or the Argungu fishing festival.

Let me tell something about the good issues you have raised with the above post. I have serious socio-political issues with liberal-leaning individuals and particularly Democratic Party. If this election had gone Mitt Romney’s way, the so-called democrats would have rushed to the courts challenging certain results based on “racism”, denial of voters to cast their votes because of improper ID, minorities and “Blacks” were not allowed to vote in certain counties and slew of unfounded craps.

I distaste Democratic Party in USA because they remind me what I hated most out of Africans. Even before the election, the Senate members of Democratic Party had talked about not working with Mitt Romney if he wins the election.

Ikengawo: I'm igbo and i think these clowns are a foolish joke and should find another way to compensate their unemployment and local government mentality.
99% of igbo families aren't discussing Biafra, they talking about how they're going to earn their daily bread, and this 'movement' and it's followers are a foolish blemish to the addressing of real issues in igbo land

Would it not amount to borderline lunacy if 99% of Igbo families are discussing Biafra? Even in 1966, I do not think 2% of people from eastern region of Nigeria thought or discussed Biafra until May 29, 1967 declaration of Biafra. Sometimes Igbo peeps with their skewed wisdom are major drawback on Ndigbo and Biafra.

youngdady: I don't do insult, I reason constructively. Read my post again, comprehend and then respond.

If you call the deductions in your posts as being constructive, you have brought shame to logical reasoning. In your first silly post, you wildly wondered what would have happened to the kids born to parents whose citizenship is likely Biafra and Oduduwa Republic or Biafra and Nigeria or any combinations of Republics for that matter. But due to certain pressures, you forgot that Ghana and Nigeria are not the same country yet there are many kids whose parents are either Nigerian or Ghanaian.

In another instance, you miraculously deduced that Nigeria is not at war with Ghana or America. However, in your infinite wisdom, you constructively suggested that Biafra proponents and their Nigerian opponents want war at all cost. You must be the wise man from the east to come up with such ridiculous nonsense. Who will want to read a post laden with conjectural crap?

[quote author=ndu_chucks]What middleground are you looking for olodo? Your people shamelessly ganged up on a lady because of her independence of thought and you are looking for middle ground? That's the typical response to be expected of a chauvinist.[/quote]I guess it is your stream of thought on this discussion that should be regarded as chauvinistic and goofy. It is very shameful that a person with average intellect such as you would stoop so low to brand individuals who did not agree with Ogugua88 as chauvinist simply because the aforementioned poster appeared to be a lady. I wonder what would have been your plank of argument if the poster is physically impaired.

youngdady: Nigeria's not @ war with Ghana or America. Biafra proponents and their Nigerian opponents want war at all cost!

Do you not think it is an act of idiocy to resort to war simply because a group of people expresses desire to have a country they can call home? It is an act of barbarism to go to war because Biafrans or Igbo want a nation state out of Nigeria. I hope you are not as foolish as you write.

youngdady: I have a female cousin married to someone from Akwa Ibom (don't know if this qualifies as Igbo state), I have an Igbo female colleague married to a man from Ogun State. We all reside and work here in PH. My question is simple, what happens to the kids in the event Biafra comes to stay


All you internet warriors, make una take time ooooh!

A stream of thought as expressed in the above post defines the retrogressive nature of Nigeria. The country is devoid of constructive school of thoughts. The last time I check, most Nigerians are married to Ghanaians, Ugandans, Beninese, Togolese, Americans, Japanese and Cameroonians yet there is no call requesting these countries to unite with Nigeria in order to save the kids in such wedlock. If Biafra or Republic of Igbo land is created, the border of the country shall remain open and diplomatic relationship shall be encouraged. Biafrans who wish to marry from neighboring countries will be allowed to do so.

ogugua88: That's not what I'm saying at all. Something you and others never fail to remind me is that charity begins at home. You even said it in this post. My question is, why don't Igbos acknowledge that we have our own problems? I'm called an idealist for believing in peace and collaboration to move people forward. Isn't believing that the recreation of Biafra will solve the problems of Ndi Ibo idealistic as well? I understand that Igbos suffer injustices and acts of discrimination, often times violent. Many crimes taking place now are reminiscent of what transpired prior to the civil war. Boko Haram targeting Christians/Igbos is a big problem, but it's just as troubling to read news of Igbos being cruel and/or murdering other Igbos. My father was nearly kidnapped in June. Armed robbers took all his money from him and drove him a distance before releasing him. He was lucky. Imagine how my mother felt, watching her husband being taken, especially when she was still mourning the loss of her father. I know you and many others think I've never been to Nigeria, but I was there just last year. My sister was harassed by young men, whom my elder cousin and I had to fight off of her. The same way some of you complain about not being able to live freely in other parts of Nigeria is how I feel in Anambra. How Hausas can tell who is Igbo or not, by accents, pronunciations, and/or features, is how fellow Igbos can pick my family and I out, not only by my and my siblings accents, but also by our "fresh skin". The way some Igbos admonish other Igbos who reside and have businesses in the north, who should be allowed to do so freely by the way, is the same way I had to admonish my adult sister for walking with her female cousins rather than our cousins Emeka or Afam. In other words, I admonished her for "behaving too freely" in her hometown, Neni.



One's tribe is his or her identity, but I would never use it against someone and I would never discriminate against someone because of his or her region. That's how I was raised. Some of today's tribalists were raised in tribalist households. That's understandable; it happens. Considering that most of us here are adults, we should be able to tell between what is right and what is wrong. It is wrong to mock Igbos as "Igbos". It is wrong to call Yorubas "yorobbers". It is wrong to label the entire Hausa people as Islamic radicals based on the foul actions of an infamous minority. Discriminating on fellow Nigerians is pathetic. It shouldn't be tolerated by anyone. Considering that charity begins at home, I start with myself and try to be a role model. OnlyTruth once said that if Igboland is successful and prosperous, then other regions would want to emulate it. Well, if I'm tolerant, hold no biases, and stand up for what is right, hopefully another Nigerian will see that it's possible for a Nigerian to reach across the "aisle of tribes" to other Nigerians who are against anti-corruption, anti-violence, etc., and emulate my behaviors. That's my hope anyway. It doesn't matter if it's only one person who respects me or takes my philosophies to heart. Change is change and I'll gladly take it.

There was nothing wrong with that thread I created. I opened that thread after reading unpatriotic comments about whether or not people were ashamed of being Nigerians. Many of them were. It's okay to be angry if your country, state, town, etc is not moving in the right direction. However, Igbos and the rest of Nigeria have to be vocal. Considering that Nigeria is technically a democracy, we are promised under democratic rule the right to a voice. We cannot sit with folded arms or conveniently type behind laptops/computers/tablets in disdain for our government. The purpose of that thread was to shift the ball onto the court of all Nigerians. It isn't necessarily about one Nigeria. I did ask for short-term goals and long-term goals, and they could range from doing something at a school or work place to a bigger scale such as state or federal government. Again, as many of you have said, charity begins at home, so what is wrong with my thread? Can you get any closer to home than one starting with himself or herself?



I'm very much aware that there are no federal infrastructures/establishments in the east. I think I recall this issue being raised in June or so in the parliamentary office thread. It's a shame that the federal government has done nothing or close to it in that sense. We shouldn't forget, however, that we have governors, senators, representatives, etc., who are supposed to be representing us. I offered solutions such as starting grassroots organizations, educating more Igbos (particularly about an international airport in Enugu), pamphlets, meetings., etc. In summary, pro-activity. I know it's unconventional, but it's more than worth a try. I wasn't taken seriously. Instead, some other members of Eze Ndi Igbo said they had a list of email addresses of government officials and that they wanted to send emails on the matter. Anyone who believes they can send an email to our rogue officials and get serious reply is on a long thing.

I know many may disagree with me, but I believe that the best weapon is information, and that's part of the reason I opened that thread a while back. Nigerians know what to do and they know that any able-bodied person has the ability to make a change. The question is, are they doing it? Many of them are not. That thread is only four pages, meanwhile, tribal threads can reach 20 pages within a few hours. Isn't that disappointing? If we know what to do, then why aren't we doing it?



I hope I've answered your questions.

Please point of correction, Igbo do not have problem as you wish us to believe. The issue of kidnapping, armed robbery, MEND, Boko Haram, etc are Nigeria’s problems. If Ndigbo had its army, police and judiciary system, the approach in dealing with these issues, if any, would have been different from what is obtained in Nigeria.

It is unfortunate you tend to dwell in bubble. I can say categorical your statement of Nigeria is technically a democracy is damning indictment of your so-called charity that begins at home. There is nothing wrong in a person holding an opinion. However, at times the opinions translate into idiocy.

Only drunkard would conclude Nigerians in Nigeria know what they are doing. If those who agitated for the international airport in Eungu had the same sociopolitical mindset such as you do, you would have nothing to educate Ndigbo.

[quote author=Mynd_44]The naiveness of my brethren is alarming. So you mean with a new country, the old dinosaurs will suddenly go extinct and the mammals will take over? Make no mistakes here the same people who are messing things up sill continue to fight for power.[/quote]I guess your naiveté is beyond redemption. Who knew a character such as JJ Rawlings existed in Ghana when the likes of Akufo and Kotoka were heads of state? By the way, why would you and ilk have a headache because group of criminals wanted an independent country and wish to name it Republic of Crime Incorporated?

[quote author=Mynd_44]So in your words and thoughts, with a change of national colours, currency anthem and name the atitude of millions of people will change?

Please lets really think about this well before we make mistakes we can't handle. Who will lead this new nation? The current political class in the south east? They will merely keep it in the current sorry state or make it worse.

Until we start changing our mentality by changing ourselves one by one, we won't grow no matter the nation we call ourselves[/quote]What in the hell made you think Biafra will run the same system of government Nigeria currently does? A new country brings new sociological trappings different from what the people used to know. You do not count your chickens before your eggs are hashed. People do not decide on future leader of country before the country is declared and existed. Are you insinuating that Biafra’s case should be different because Igbo and Nigeria are involved?

[quote author=Mynd_44]To me, you people are just being ignorant. Its either you know she made sense and you can't take the truth or you just wanna show how much of an ärse you are.

What is wrong with her statement?

Is it not true?

The South East in Nigeria has the highest kidnapping rate in the fûcking country and you people wanna just live in bliss like it does not happen?

Do you really think those poor people who are kidnapped and robbed daily care if biafra is set up?

What people wanna see is a better life, justice, grantee that they can be treated fairly, the promise that their sons and daughters can come home during the holidays and not get kidnapped.

Can biafra grantee these things
the Present Nigerian system does not and we as responsible human beings should be trying to make these vices things of the past and not disturb ourselves about what country we are called.

But I would not expect the OP and his/her proponents to see this point of view, they are too blinded by dumb hatred for their fellow man.

The problems in the south East is to a larger extent the fault of the governors and Local government chairmen their then the federal government. Which of those thieving moröns you call leaders have actually performed well?

How many of them has engaged in a massive employment drive to ensure that the people who engage in these crimes are employed and so they might stop?

The culture of every son of the land going home to show off his/her car at the end of the year also helps no one. It makes the poor desperate.

Lets use our head to think and sit on our ärses and not the other way around[/quote]The above post reeks of idiocy and stupidity. It will be nice if the idiotic poster supply the data which tabulated South-East with highest rate of kidnapping. By the way, what has agitation for nation state got to do with crime?

I can say without equivocation that Biafra, if allowed to materialize, would be opposite of everything known to Nigeria. You are not capable of feeding yourself talk less of deciphering what Biafra is capable. Again, such insinuation of the capabilities of the futuristic Biafra is the delight of a fool.

ogugua88: Lol.

If there is a war, will you fight? All of those clamoring for a Biafra must fight. It isn't by mouth and it certainly isn't from behind a keyboard that Biafra will be created. If you want Biafra, then leave NL and go and get it. That's my take.

Igbos want good roads, education, airports, etc., just as the OP stated. However, a recreation of Biafra will not bring those things overnight. Igboland suffers the same ills plaguing the rest of Nigeria. Unless we wipe corrupt officials from Igboland, I don't see Biafra being any different than Nigeria. Not unless we have trustworthy intellects rather than big-mouthed warriors as leaders. Yes, Boko Haram has targeted Christians, many of them being Igbos, but let us not forget that Igbos are robbing, kidnapping, and murdering fellow Igbos too.

Most of your posts come across as borderline stupidity or utterances borne out of juvenile exuberance. In today’s world, it is the inalienable rights of individuals or groups of individuals to agitate for a nation state independent of the country which they currently belonged.

Declaration of independence by any group of individuals does not equate war. It is only in a fool’s figment of imagination that agitation of nation state can be remotely regarded as a declaration of war or even attempt to overthrow a government.

I guess you have intellectual lapse when you stupidly lump together the act of kidnapping, rubbing and murdering with the agitation of nationhood.

bilms: IGBO'S DON'T CARE ABOUT ANY BIAFRA DECLARATION,THEY ONLY CARE FOR GOOD LIFE,GOOD ROADS,QUALITY EDUCATION AND JUSTICE. I read that some people in Enugu state today declared a shadow Biafra Republic lead by a U.K/Nigerian citizen,who wished to gain cheap popularity at the expense of heating up the polity and expose some Igbo's to danger while he ran away to U.k. He even declared that his Biafra would be fighting Isreal enemies and i wonder what kind of nation is that. I have after reading the declaring interracted with my Igbo friends who made it known that Igbo's don't care about any Biafra declaration,they only care for a good life,good roads,quality education,responsible leaders,job employments and justice.

You must be more than human to decipher what Ndigbo care about or not. Sometimes, precarious situation of Nigeria seem to induce hypertension on most Nigerians. If Nigeria should breakup in future, there is no amount of bad press against Ndigbo or Biafra that will prevent it.

I must say emphatically that Nigeria is a dysfunctional entity. Everyday suggests Nigeria is heading toward the area of greater disorder. I would not mind resurgence of Biafra but definitely want the Republic of Igbo land.

Anybody who does not support the Republic of Igbo land and seemed twisted out of human form on the mention of Biafra has irredeemable moral issues.

[quote author=~Bluetooth]Ibo is a name of any person,animal,place or thing.[/quote]Yoruba or Yoruba is a name of group of wild human beings, animals, places and things.

Olaolufred: I lived in East Africa for few years (Kenya,Uganda and Rwanda).
His Full name is Mwongera Kioga.
Kenyan based in USA.
He understand the disadvantage of Tribal domination and repressions as experienced in his country.
That is why he could speak better on the Nigeria situation.
Not using Alias as you thought.
Maureen, Rudolf are other reviewers.

Thanks for the input and clarification. If your input is remotely true, then the so-called mkioga must be an irredeemable and idiotic ill-formed interloper who dwelled on second-hand information without embarking on exploratory research.

[quote author=*556#]Chinua Achebe is a great writer, with well thought out and concise work that is well presented and easy to read. However while his writing talent is unquestioned, I really feel his views in this book are biased and will result in the increase of tribalism, hence corruption and suffering of his beloved Igbo ethnic group as well as all Nigerians. Therefore he fails in his attempt to create unity and reduce tribalism and corruption which he so loathes.

In the Chapter "The Role of the Writer in Africa", he says that a writer should align himself with the weak and powerless against the strong. This is an agreeable point. However, he tries to cast his Igbo people as the victims in Nigeria while ignoring the sufferings of other ethnic groups brought upon by the Igbos. This is not a recipe for national reconciliation.

In the Chapter "Cradle of Nigerian Nationalism", he tries to cast the Yoruba Leader, Chief Alowolo as a tribal leader who reunited his ancient Yoruba people "with a powerful glue of resuscitated ethnic pride, hence creating the "Action Group" political party that reduced the dominance of the Igbo dominated NCDC. The irony here is that Achebe sees no problem with the NCDC being Igbo dominated while he complains about the Action Group being Yoruba dominated. This double standards is not a recipe for national reconciliation.

In the same chapter, while calling Alowolo's Action group a tribal party, he says, without any misgivings, that it also galvanized support from not only the Yoruba, but also the Riverline and minority groups in the Niger delta who "dreaded the prospects of Igbo political domination". This proves two points. That the Action Party was not an exclusive Yoruba tribal party like the NCDC was becoming. Second, that the Riverline and Minority eastern Tribes "dreaded" the prospect of Igbo domination. So the Igbo's are starting to look, not like the poor victims, but a ruthless tribe that will dominate others with impunity. Again, Mr Achebe's biased, pro-igbo views will not improve unity in Nigeria.

In the chapter "The Decline", Mr Achebe says that the original idea of a "One Nigeria" at independence was pressed by Eastern (read Igbo) leaders and intellectuals, especially Nnamdi Azikiwe. This is true because the Igbo were dominating every sector in Nigeria and they saw that a unified Nigeria would benefit them. They did not care about what other tribes felt.

Initially, the the Northerners led by the Sardauna, Ahmadu Bello, resisted the idea of a "One Nigeria". Achebe tries to cast the Northerners as short sighted and not working to remove the British colonist, but their objections were based on a legitimate and true fear of dominance by the Igbo. Why would the northerners want to remove one oppressor, the British (who were actually competent and knew how to run a non-corrupt government), and bring in another oppressor, the Igbo ( who were corrupt and tribalistic)?. So Mr Achebe, your Igbo leaders should have been less greedy and less short sighted and tried to understand why the Northerners resisted a One Nigeria idea. Maybe the whole Nigerian people would be in a better position today.

Don't take my word for it. Just listen to the Sardauna in his own words here ( [...] ) explaining the legitimate fear the northerners have about the Igbo. I think the Igbo, instead of arrogantly dismissing such feelings, should have taken them into consideration and tried to live in harmony with other tribes instead of trying to dominate them.

In the chapter named "January 15, 1966 Coup", Mr Achebe shows his extremely biased attitude in favor of his Igbo tribe. This is the classic definition of a tribalist. He tries to minimize the January 15, 1966, coup as one led by "junior officers" protesting corruption, but he fails to accurately portray the tribal nature of that coup. The Sardauna , Sir Ahmadu Bello and Samuel Akintola, the greatest leaders of the North and West respectively were killed, along with numerous others from same regions, but there was no Igbo killed. Achebe says the coup was led by "junior officers most of them igbo" led by Major Chukwuma Nzeogwu from northern city of Kaduna. This is misleading. Major Nzeogwu was not a northerner. He was an Igbo born in Kaduna. Same applies to Emeka Ojukwu, Biafra's secessionist leader, an Igbo born in the North. So if he calls Nzeogwu a northerner, he should also call Ojukwu a northerner. This coup was a totally tribal affair and trying to say otherwise will not help improve the tribalism issues in Nigeria.

In the chapter "The Dark Days", Mr Achebe, having minimized the coup as "non-tribal and one led by Junior officers protesting corruption and decay", starts railing against other tribes when they took revenge, rightfully so, against the Igbos who had killed their most senior leaders. He says that in a country where tribalism is endemic, the "rumor of an Igbo Coup" began to gain acceptance. I find it unbelievable that Mr Achebe would take such a position. This January 1966 coup, WAS AN IGBO COUP, there is no doubt about it, and denying that will not further Achebe's goal of reducing tribalism in Nigeria.

In the same chapter, he says that other tribes started attacking Easterners, taking out their resentment against the Igbos who "had led the nation in every sector - politics, education, commerce and arts and had driven out the colonizing British from Nigeria". This comment brings two points to light. He tries to portray "Easterners" as one victimized group but this is not truth. As he said before, many minority Easterners "dreaded the prospect of Igbo domination", hence their joining of the Yoruba "Action Party" group.

Second point is that he tries to portray other tribes as being driven by envy at Igbo's success. Mr Achebe, remember the Igbos triggered this by launching a coup and killing people from other tribes. Second, a nation will never be united if one group dominates all the rest. This is the biggest mistake we have in Africa. One tribe tries to dominate and shut out others, the others fight back and we all end up losing, just as we see in Nigeria, and so many African nations. So Mr Achebe, please try to be far sighted and use your talent to guide your Nigerian people (all tribes) to be more unified and not celebrate the Igbos for dominating the rest, and congratulating them for being superior, or for being the "Jews of Africa" as has been said before.

Mr Achebe then describes his experience leaving Lagos. For those who don't know, Lagos is in western Nigeria, in Yoruba land and many Igbos had settled there as well as many other parts of the country. However we don't hear of other tribes settling in Igboland. This skewed migration tendencies were bound to bring problems. It is a fact that migratory tribes in Africa never assimilate with their host tribes, unlike the United States where different people integrate, learning English and adopting a common mainstream culture.

So you when people from a different tribe come to your area, they are basically "not your neighbors" but an alien people just occupying your land. When Mr Achebe says he found it "a strange and powerful experience" when his non-igbo "neighbors" whom he lived with for decades started jeering him and saying that "food will be cheaper in Lagos" when Igbos leave, he is not being genuine. I can bet that he never socialized with the locals, learned their language, or tried to integrate with their culture. Even after living in Lagos for decades, he maintained his Igbo culture and language and probably had mostly Igbo friends. Not surprising, even his "intellectual non-igbo friends" said that he should have known what was coming to him as an Igbo.

This point about Tribalism is illustrated again when Mr Achebe, fleeing to the east, arrived in Benin City in the Mid-west and he says there was a "distinct atmospheric change". There he found Igbo policemen who welcomed him as a brother, cheering him, saying "Oga, thank you". They cheered him just because he was a prominent Igbo man, even if he spent most of his life in Lagos or other regions. I bet non-igbos living in the East would never receive such treatment. So Mr Achebe should realize that tribalism goes both ways. Everyone, even the Igbos are tribalistic. So we should accept that fact and then we can start discussing how we can live together with justice for everyone.

In the Chapter "A History of Ethnic Tension and Resentment", Mr Achebe clearly illustrates that there is something about the Igbo that makes other Nigerian tribes resent them so much. He points out that in his book, "The Trouble with Nigeria", that Nigerians will "achieve consensus in no other matter than their common resentment of the Igbo". He says that while the Yoruba had a huge historical and geographical head start, the Igbo, "in one fantastic burst of energy in the 20 years between 1930 and 1950" managed to wipe out that advantage. He also illustrates from the book by J.P Clark an image of "ants filing out of the wood", how the Igbo moved out of their forest home and scattered and virtually seized the floor.

This scenario, as I said before, is a recipe for disaster in Nigeria and other African countries. When one tribe starts to invade other peoples territories and due to cultural, language and other factors, start to dominate everything there, that will definitely create resentment and conflict. The Igbo's congratulate themselves for being "superior" and "competent", and for being able to dominate other tribes in a fair competition, but they should also know they are not very smart because other tribes will resents them and drive them out, just as it happened, and they will end up losing.

If Mr. Achebe is smart and loves Nigeria, he should not be celebrating Igbo "superiority" over other tribes. He should use his talents trying to think how different tribes can work together to ensure everyone gets a fair shake so that the whole nation can utilize its talents for the good of everybody.

To his credit however, he concedes that the Igbos are prone to "hubris and overweening pride, thoughtlessness, exhibitionism and disregard for humility and quietness" which can offend others.

However, he fails again because he continues to argue that in Nigeria's context, they "get the achievers (meaning Igbos) out and replace them with less qualified individuals from the desired ethnic background to gain access to resources of the state". I have heard this argument in Kenya where I come from, but it does not hold water.

First, achieving "access to resources of the state for all tribes" is the only good and fair thing to do. There is no reason why Igbo's should to take over all jobs just because they "are more qualified" because competence is not exclusive to only one tribe. I live in the US and can tell you that you will find smart people from all backgrounds, all tribes and all races.

Mr Achebe displays his scewed and totally wrong position by saying he was "dismayed" by a 1966 publication called "The Nigerian Situation: Facts and Background", which demonstrated the complete unfairness existing in Nigeria where 45% of managers were Igbo, over 50% of the posts in Nigerian Railways, over 70% of posts in Nigeria Ports Authority and foreign service were occupied by Igbos. Remember the Igbos account for only 18% of Nigeria's total Nigerian population.

I don't know why Mr Achebe would not find such discrepancies disturbing and why he would be "dismayed" when someone reveals them. The only reason I can think of is because his Igbo people were on the benefiting end of this. This again, Mr Achebe, is not the attitude you should adopt if you want a Nigeria for everyone.

In the Chapter "The Army", Mr Achebe again tries to minimize the "Igbo Coup" led by Major Nzeogwu saying that it was actually not an "Igbo coup". He tries to deny that Major Nzeogwu was an Igbo, saying that he was born in Kaduna (north) and spoke fluent Hausa and wore northern traditional dress. That did not stop him from massacring Northern and Western leaders like Sir Ahmadu Bello. Achebe also claims that the coup was stopped by General Aguiyi-Ironsi, an Igbo. However, he continues to note that General Ironsi refused to court martial the coup plotters and transfered them East where they were eventually released by Ojukwu. So Ironsi is not as non-tribal and fair as Mr Achebe tries to portray him.

After trying to minimize the "Igbo Coup", Mr Achebe goes all the way to condemn the resulting "counter coup" by northern officers to revenge the "Igbo Coup". He says the killing of General Ironsi and Fajuyi were part of a larger and bloody coup led by the northern General Murtala Mohamed. This kind of double standard is not lost on anyone. Once again, Mr Achebe fails by trying to unfairly promote his tribe and minimize their failings while maximizing their opponents failings. This will not result in a unified Nigeria.

In the Chapter "The Pogroms", Mr Achebe again goes overboard trying to minimize the "Igbo Coup" by saying that it was an "Idealistic Coup" that proved to be a disaster for the Igbo. I find it just unbelievable that a man of Mr Achebe's intelligence would not realize that his biased views will make other tribes think of him as just another unrepentant Igbo tribalist. Here again, he fails in his stated goal of unifying Nigeria for all its people.

In the Chapter "Aburi Accord", Mr Achebe claims that majority of the Easterners had grown contemptuous of General Gowon's federal government for its failure to bring the culprits of the mass murder in the North to Justice. While this may be true, he also fails to say that his beloved Igbo General Ironsi failed to bring the "Igbo Coup" plotters to justice when he had the chance. He even transferred them to the East where they were released. This kind of double standard, again is not going to promote unity in Nigeria.

In the chapter "The Nightmare Begins", after General Ojukwu seceded Biafra from Nigeria, General Gowon responded by declaring a state of emergency and dividing the nation into 12 states based on tribe. The federal government position was that this would foster unity and stability in Nigeria. This is actually a valid point. If different tribes have control of their areas and free from domination by other tribes, this can create stability, unity, justice and eventually success. However, the Igbos, arrogantly thinking that it was their birthright to dominate other tribes, saw this as "a Machiavellian Scheme to landlock Igbos into the East Central State and isolate them from oil producing areas", areas which in truth, don't belong to them.

Mr Achebe seems sympathetic to this Igbo view although he inadvertently validates the Federal government's point by saying that the Non-Igbo minority easterners "dreaded for years - the prospect of Igbo domination". So again, Mr Achebe fails by aligning himself with the Igbo desire to dominate others, which eventually led to the destruction of Nigeria, Igbos included.

In the Chapter "The Republic of Biafra", Mr Achebe shows his support for the secessionist nation of Birafra by defining the intellectual foundation of the new nation as one "which the supreme power lay with the citizens and respected the freedoms of all mankind". However he fails to mention the plight of more that 5 million minority Easterners in Biafra who "dreaded the prospect of Igbo domination for years".

He also mentions his admiration for president Nyerere of Tanzania who supported the new State of Biafra by standing for equality, self determination and respect for human values. The Biafra leaders would have been well served if they followed Nyerere's example. Nyerere succeeded in creating the only non-tribal country in Africa where there is no tribalism, unlike Biafra, which was founded as a result of extreme tribalism.

In the Chapter "Death of the Poet , Daddy don't let him die", Mr Achebe reveals a great irony. While he earlier described the "Igbo Coup" leader Major Nzeogwu as an "idealistic junior officer" whose thoughtless actions brought disaster to the Igbos, and while he earlier said that Major Nzeogwu was "an Igbo only by name", he now says that Nzeogwu's death in the war was a big blow to Biafra because he was a "darling and enigmatic hero who had risen from anonymity to legendary heights in a short period".

This reveals two things. That Mr Achebe was not too upset about the "Igbo Coup" itself, and the resulting massacre of people from other tribes, but was upset it eventually turned out badly for the Igbo, when other tribes took revenge. He also reveals that Major Nzeogwu, whom he earlier tried to dissociate with the Igbo on account of his being born in Kaduna (north), was actually regarded as a hero by his Igbo tribesmen. Again, Mr. Achebe reveals he is a tribalist and fails in his stated goal of uniting all Nigerians.

Mr Achebe tries to cast blame to everybody else other than the Igbo themselves. In the Chapter "The Silence of the United Nations", he bemoans how in October 1969, on the losing side, General Ojukwu desperately pleaded with the United Nations for mediation to no avail. His Opponent, General Gowon insisted on Biafra's surrender and rightly noted that "the rebel leaders had made it clear that it was a fight to the finish and no concessions will ever satisfy them". The Biafra Igbo rebels, in their "hubris, overweening pride, confidence and thoughtlessness" provoked a war and were not able to finish it. So they blame everybody else except themselves. Again, Mr Achebe fails. He is not interested in justice and truth, but in the welfare of only his Igbo people and not all Nigerians.

Nothing demonstrates the folly of tribalism better than the case of Nnamdi Azikiwe, Nigeria's first president, an Igbo. At independence, he campaigned against the British colonialists under a "One Nigeria" mantra, when it was beneficial for the Igbos because they were dominating other Nigerian tribes and taking over all resources. When things turned awry for the Igbos and they seceded, he suddenly forgot his earlier principles of "One Nigeria" and supported the new Igbo secessionist state of Biafra. However, he could not defend a challenge to his new position and had to turn back like a coward.

So in the Chapter "Azikiwe Withdraws Support for Biafra" Mr Achebe tries to blame British intellectuals in northern universities and the Nigerian Army for challenging Azikiwe to explain why he suddenly changed his lifelong beliefs of a "One Nigeria" and now supported the breaking of Nigeria. Azikiwe was unable to explain that and decided to withdraw his support for his tribesmen's new state. Again, Mr Achebe fails. He is not interested in fairness and principles to benefit all Nigerians, but will support whatever benefits the Igbo at that particular time.

The chapter named "1970 and the Fall" reveals the hypocrisy of Mr Achebe. He says that in the end, Biafra collapsed and there were thousands of children dying every day of starvation. He goes on to say that the "Notoriously incompetent Nigerian Government was not responding to those needs, and that with ill-advised Bravado, General Gowon was busy banning relief agencies that helped Biafra". I find this level of hypocrisy amazing. Where is Ojukwu in all this mess. He started the war, he was responsible for the death and starvation of millions of Biafrans. Remember Biafrans were fighting General Gowon and inflicted heavy casualties on his soldiers. So, to blame Gowon and completely forget the other responsible person, Ojukwu, is just unbelievable.

Some other points I wish to note are in the chapter named "Gowon Responds". He was asked about Igbo property being taken over by the Government of New Rivers State. Something was said to the effect that the people of that state "felt like tenants in their own state" because the Igbos owned everything there. Again I want to reiterate that there will be no united Nigeria (or other African countries) when some tribes start dominating others with impunity, and in their own territory no less.

In the Chapter "Nigeria's Painful Transitions: A Reappraisal" , Mr Achebe talks about the crime happening in his beloved, Igbo state of Anambra. He says it was encouraged by the federal government and by an unnamed former president of Nigeria, "whose attitude to this part of Nigeria, which he and some like him consider responsible for the troubles of Nigeria's Civil war".

Mr Achebe, I have news for you. This part of Nigeria IS RESPONSIBLE for the Nigerian Civil war. That is the truth and trying to deny it is folly. Again, you fail because this denial will not endear you to Nigerians of other tribes, hence will not help to create a unified Nigeria.

In one of your last chapters "State Resuscitation and Recovery" you ask how Nigeria can be salvaged and "bring all the human and material resources to bear on its development", how to end "organized ethnic bigotry" and "corruption". I am encouraged that you are thinking in this direction.

I am no expert in nation development and reconciliation, but I can tell you that TRIBALISM, like the one exhibited by the Igbo, is one of the main causes of our backwardness in Africa.

We have to deal with tribalism, ensure that no ethnic group moves to other ethnic group areas and try to dominate their resources. I believe the formation of states based on tribal lines will help. Or at least grouping together tribes that are in friendly terms and can live together in harmony. Then every tribe will control the resources in their state and ensure justice and welfare for their people and remove the danger of domination by other supposedly "more competent" tribes.

In conclusion, Mr Achebe is a great author, with superior talent. But he is also biased and is a tribalist. Here he fails like a majority of our other brilliant, (or not-so-brilliant) Africans leaders and intellectuals.

http://www.amazon.com/There-Was-Country-Personal-History/product-reviews/1594204829[/quote]When a so-called reviewer of books uses alias such as “mkioga” instead of real name which will expose the true identity of the person behind the moniker, I attribute nothing significant to such endeavor.

In the above nonsensical drivel, the writer come across as a fool who either believe in the word-dominated or phrase such as attempting to dominate. It is very clear the goofy writer needs to do much work so as to be able to differentiate NCDC from NCNC. I really do not fathom what gave the lapper the impetus to suggest the NCNC was Igbo-dominated political party when all the ministerial appointments based on the electoral victories of the party were dominated by Yoruba.

Again, mkioga made a fool out of him\herself by alluding that British were competent administrators. Yet he\she audaciously suggested Igbo dominated everything in the era in discussion. If Ndigbo dominated everything in Nigeria by then, it must be that either the British were partial in their dealings with would-be Nigerians or the Ndigbo were more qualified than others to do the work the “competent British” wanted them to perform.

In another stanza, the author indicated that “NCDC” was almost dominated by Igbo but failed to indicate the major premise of branding a political party tribal is rooted in the formation of such organization and progenitors of such political party. Action Group rose from the gathering of Egbe Omo Oduduwa while NPC rose from the Quadriiyya\Tijaniyya Islamic sects and Pilgrim association situated in their respective regions. In the other hand, NCNC originated from Lagos in Yoruba land and most of the principal stakeholders were Yoruba not Igbo. Yet, mkioga seemed foolish enough not to indicate the factors which compelled him\her to brand a party as Igbo dominated or dominating in the silly review.

The joker in mkioga can not eat his\her cake and have it. In one instance, mkioga branded the British as competent administrators and in another instance the joker seemed to accuse Ndigbo about the facts raised by the publication named “The Nigerian Situation: Facts and Background”. I shall remind the mkioga that Nigeria civil service was setup by the same people he\she referred as competent and there is doubt in my mind that British adopted the most stringent meritocracy when filing up positions wthiin Nigerian Railways or Nigerian Posts Authority.

I shall not get into splitting of hair with mkioga in the case of Nyerere of Tanzania and Biafran leaders. If Biafra had the same opportunity given to Tanzania to live as independent country, then the issue of emulation of Nyerere’s exemplary leadership should have come into this discussion. But given the fact that mikoga is a deluded drunk, it will be wasteful endeavor to strike intellectual cord with such a jackass in this subject matter.

I stopped reading the above crap when the writer in his\her infinite wisdom declared Ojukwu jumpstarted Nigeria\Biafra war. If this writer is not a moronic numbskull, he\she must be a basement fool. Ojukwu was not involved with January 15, 1966 coup in Nigeria. Unlike Gowon, Ojukwu had not been directly or indirectly linked to July 29, 1966 coup in Nigeria. Even in loosely adherence to military parlance, unlike Gowon again Ojukwu did not usurp the position of C-in-C in Nigeria. Unlike Gowon, Ojukwu was not the COAS in Nigeria when defenseless civilians from southern Nigeria were massacred in northern region by the armed Mohammedans and Nigerian soldiers who hailed from northern region of Nigeria.

Anyway, it is not uncommon to find that author of above junk belongs to school of thought which believed that act of suing for independence is equivalent to declaration of war.

[quote author=ndu_chucks]Not naming Rear Admiral Allison Madueke in the article takes nothing away from it but adds to the accuracy of the conclusions reached by the article's author.[/quote]It does take away something from the article especially when it referred Vice-Admiral Dele Joseph Ezeoba as the first Igbo Chief of Naval Staff. In future, average Nigerians will argue that President Jonathan also appointed first Igbo CONS. I have read such rubbish on this forum.

pazienza: Many igbos dede1 inclusive believe that Ojukwu made many mistakes in biafra war, even though we don't criticize or demonize Ojukwu,because we know that everything he did,he did with good intentions for ndiigbo.

On the yoruba issue,that's my personal opinion,and dede1 or anyother body don't necessary have to agree with it. Ojukwu labelled yorubas friends,when in the actual sense,they were our enemy,he trusted awolowo and aluko. The capture of lagos was our only realistic chance of winning that war, ojukwu threw that chance away,when he handed that mission to banjo.

Bros, you have penned masterstroke with the above post. There is no weapon that can defeat element of surprise in any military conflict. Both sides were loaded with WWII vintage weapons and more on the Nigerian side. Biafra lost the opportunity to alter the direction of the war due to what I termed as the worst blunder ever committed in annals of warfare.

Katsumoto: Shuwa was a divisional commander; were you expecting him to be present with all his units at the same time?

What matters is that his unit commanders refer and report matters to him..

I suggest you refer your statement to nku5 who arrogated such a baseless crap to Shuwa. One of the soldiers who identified the body of Major Nzeogwu was Lt John Shelleng who commanded 22nd battalion. Again, Major Nzeogwu was killed during a firefight when his Biafran built APC was blasted by 106mm recoilless gun operated by unit of soldiers under the command of Captain Wushishi.

Katsumoto: You are being obtuse as usual.

First, you killed your argument by stating that the premise of your argument is a rumour.

Second, your 'rumour' has it that Nzeogwus car was blasted but it isn't clear who fired at him because former oderly could be anyone.

Third, even with your rumour, there is no definitive stance that Nzeogwu died.

I referred to the statement as rumor because Nigerians were not capable of gathering intelligence during the war. Therefore any story that emanates from Nigeria is regarded as rumor. Yes, Shuwa was the commander of Area 1 at the beginning of war and later arrowhead of 1st Division. The writer of the jaundiced post wanted to create a wrong image of Shuwa. Even the Brigade commander such as Lt Col Sule Apollo who was the direct commander to Captain Mohammed Inua Wushishi whose 21st battalion actually killed Major Nzeogwu could have done want the poster attribute to Shuwa who was chilling in Makurdi.

[quote author=Negro_Ntns]_chucks,

I wish to speak on behalf of Igbos on this topic.

It is an insult to tell a bona fide member of the nation that the rights of belonging taken away from them has been paid back with consolation appointments in federal bureaus.

This open up a dialogue on rights of congression and assembly. What paercentage of the country is owned by each constituting group or ethnic bloc? What index of measurement or social factor (historicals included) should guide the apportionement of the proprietary rights....is it population, land mass, manpower and productivity, the treaties and agreements with Britain, natural resources?

What gives entitlement to some and denies it to others in an assembly of people such as ours?

Who determines the orderliness and social organizing for the society and where is the source stream of the creed and morals by which the standards are cut?

Plenty of questions to ask.....[/quote]Sometimes, you drip with abundant stupidity. It is clear your psychotic head was not in order when you conjured the following nonsensical statement –“It is an insult to tell a bona fide member of the nation that the rights of belonging taken away from them has been paid back with consolation appointments in federal bureaus.”.

Ndigbo and easterners decided to leave the contraption called Nigeria when their inalienable right to basic freedom was breached in certain parts of the country. In the process, they fought to check the idiotic aggression of some Nigerians. There was no time their right to belong to cesspit called Nigeria was ever taken away from them.


Rather what transpired in Nigeria since the end of the war remained that people who found themselves on the victorious side along with Britain and USSR became scared of the unknown.

naptu2: Admiral Allison Madueke?

You are spot on, dude. He was a former CONS. Some “copy and paste” addicts may quote this article as a source.

Balkan: Figure this out. My community shear boundry with Umuhu Atta,Ngugo,Ogada Atta, Umuoziri and Inyshi. Find out the community lol

You must be from Umudim.