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Christianity Etc › Re: Shocking Origin Of Christmas by dederocs(op): 4:57pm On Dec 14, 2012

hmmmn....

Christianity Etc › Shocking Origin Of Christmas by dederocs(op): 4:52pm On Dec 14, 2012

Popular myth puts his birth on December 25th in the year 1 C.E.
The New Testament gives no date or year for Jesus’ birth. The earliest gospel – St. Mark’s, written about 65 CE – begins with the baptism of an adult Jesus. This suggests that the earliest Christians lacked interest in or knowledge of Jesus’ birthdate.

The year of Jesus birth was determined by Dionysius Exiguus, a Scythian monk, “abbot of a Roman monastery. His calculation went as follows:

In the Roman,pre-Christian era, years were counted from ab urbe condita (“the founding of the City” [Rome]). Thus 1 AUC signifies the year Rome was founded, 5 AUC signifies the 5th year of Rome’s reign, etc.

Dionysius received a tradition that the Roman emperor Augustus reigned 43 years, and was followed by the emperor Tiberius.

Luke 3:1,23 indicates that when Jesus turned 30 years old, it was the 15th year of Tiberius reign.

If Jesus was 30 years old in Tiberius’ reign, then he lived 15 years under Augustus (placing Jesus birth in Augustus’ 28th year of reign).

Augustus took power in 727 AUC. Therefore, Dionysius put Jesus birth in 754 AUC.

However, Luke 1:5 places Jesus’ birth in the days of Herod, and Herod died in 750 AUC – four years before the year in which Dionysius places Jesus birth.

Joseph A. Fitzmyer – Professor Emeritus of Biblical Studies at the Catholic University of America, member of the Pontifical Biblical Commission, and former president of the Catholic Biblical Association – writing in the Catholic Church’s official commentary on the New Testament[1], writes about the date of Jesus’ birth, “Though the year [of Jesus birth is not reckoned with certainty, the birth did not occur in AD 1. The Christian era, supposed to have its starting point in the year of Jesus birth, is based on a miscalculation introduced ca. 533 by Dionysius Exiguus.”

The DePascha Computus, an anonymous document believed to have been written in North Africa around 243 CE, placed Jesus birth on March 28. Clement, a bishop of Alexandria (d. ca. 215 CE), thought Jesus was born on November 18. Based on historical records, Fitzmyer guesses that Jesus birth occurred on September 11, 3 BCE.

How Did Christmas Come to Be Celebrated on December 25...BEFORE WE START THE SHOPPING AND CAROL NIGHTS,LETS PONDER THIS...

[b]Roman pagans first introduced the holiday of Saturnalia, a week long period of lawlessness celebrated between December 17-25. During this period, Roman courts were closed, and Roman law dictated that no one could be punished for damaging property or injuring people during the weeklong celebration. The festival began when Roman authorities chose “an enemy of the Roman people” to represent the “Lord of Misrule.” Each Roman community selected a victim whom they forced to indulge in food and other physical pleasures throughout the week. At the festival’s conclusion, December 25th, Roman authorities believed they were destroying the forces of darkness by brutally murdering this innocent man or woman.

The ancient Greek writer poet and historian Lucian (in his dialogue entitled Saturnalia) describes the festival’s observance in his time. In addition to human sacrifice, he mentions these customs: widespread intoxication; going from house to house while singing naked; rape and other sexual license; and consuming human-shaped biscuits (still produced in some English and most German bakeries during the Christmas season).

In the 4th century CE, Christianity imported the Saturnalia festival hoping to take the pagan masses in with it. Christian leaders succeeded in converting to Christianity large numbers of pagans by promising them that they could continue to celebrate the Saturnalia as Christians.[2]

The problem was that there was nothing intrinsically Christian about Saturnalia. To remedy this, these Christian leaders named Saturnalia’s concluding day, December 25th, to be Jesus’ birthday.

Christians had little success, however, refining the practices of Saturnalia. As Stephen Nissenbaum, professor history at the University of Massachussetts, Amherst, writes, “In return for ensuring massive observance of the anniversary of the Savior’s birth by assigning it to this resonant date, the Church for its part tacitly agreed to allow the holiday to be celebrated more or less the way it had always been.” The earliest Christmas holidays were celebrated by drinking, sexual indulgence, singing naked in the streets (a precursor of modern caroling), etc.

The Reverend Increase Mather of Boston observed in 1687 that “the early Christians who first observed the Nativity on December 25 did not do so thinking that Christ was born in that Month, but because the Heathens’ Saturnalia was at that time kept in Rome, and they were willing to have those Pagan Holidays metamorphosed into Christian ones.”[3] Because of its known pagan origin, Christmas was banned by the Puritans and its observance was illegal in Massachusetts between 1659 and 1681.[4] However, Christmas was and still is celebrated by most Christians.

Some of the most depraved customs of the Saturnalia carnival were intentionally revived by the Catholic Church in 1466 when Pope Paul II, for the amusement of his Roman citizens, forced Jews to race naked through the streets of the city. An eyewitness account reports, “Before they were to run, the Jews were richly fed, so as to make the race more difficult for them and at the same time more amusing for spectators. They ran… amid Rome’s taunting shrieks and peals of laughter, while the Holy Father stood upon a richly ornamented balcony and laughed heartily.”[5]

As part of the Saturnalia carnival throughout the 18th and 19th centuries CE, rabbis of the ghetto in Rome were forced to wear clownish outfits and march through the city streets to the jeers of the crowd, pelted by a variety of missiles. When the Jewish community of Rome sent a petition in1836 to Pope Gregory XVI begging him to stop the annual Saturnalia abuse of the Jewish community, he responded, “It is not opportune to make any innovation.”[6] On December 25, 1881, Christian leaders whipped the Polish masses into Antisemitic frenzies that led to riots across the country. In Warsaw 12 Jews were brutally murdered, huge numbers maimed, and many Jewish women were raped. Two million rubles worth of property was destroyed.

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III. [color=#000000] The Origins of Christmas Customs[/color]

A. The Origin of Christmas Tree
Just as early Christians recruited Roman pagans by associating Christmas with the Saturnalia, so too worshippers of the Asheira cult and its offshoots were recruited by the Church sanctioning “Christmas Trees”.[7] Pagans had long worshipped trees in the forest, or brought them into their homes and decorated them, and this observance was adopted and painted with a Christian veneer by the Church.

B.[color=#000000] The Origin of Mistletoe[/color]
Norse mythology recounts how the god Balder was killed using a mistletoe arrow by his rival god Hoder while fighting for the female Nanna. Druid rituals use mistletoe to poison their human sacrificial victim.[8] The Christian custom of “kissing under the mistletoe” is a later synthesis of the sexual license of Saturnalia with the Druidic sacrificial cult.

PLEASE LET US ALWAYS KNOW WHAT WE DO,NOT JUST FOLLOW TRADITIONS WE WERE BORN INTO,UNLESS OF COURSE WE ENJOY IT...happy merry sartunalia..ooops- christmas i meant to say wink

Islam › Re: Things Your Muslim Wife Wont Tell You by dederocs(m): 3:06pm On Dec 14, 2012

abdulkayus: Hmmmm, i can c alot of bigots here. For God sake, dis thread was posted on Islam section and d OP intention is direct to muslims. If u feel annoy, y nt create anoda thread for xtains women, no 1 stop u. Hahhhh, oma se oooo.

PLS POST IT ONLY ON MUSLIM SECTION.WE ARE NOT INTERESTED TO KNOW ABOUT MUSLIM CULTURES HERE.PLEASE DO NOT BRING SUCH TO THE MAIN THREAD AGAIN.

Islam › Re: Things Your Muslim Wife Wont Tell You by dederocs(m): 3:02pm On Dec 14, 2012

i think most muslim women are fustrated and confused with their lives...go to perverlicious.com and see Arab women fucking like crazy-forget all these head they are covering,they just want some freedoms,but they are locked up in the cage of their religion.very boring life.

Islam › Re: Things Your Muslim Wife Wont Tell You by dederocs(m): 2:59pm On Dec 14, 2012

I WONDER WHY SUCH MEANINGLESS THREADS GET TO THE FRONT PAGE...WASTE OF TIME.

Crime › Re: Corper Loses Eye To Police Brutality by dederocs(m): 1:07pm On Dec 14, 2012

Cutejay: Police and swinging into action na wa o,they should be hasty in their investigations before the young man looses his sight completely. Besides what with some guys and ash*wo eh? Mtcheeew

The same thing with girls dat Bleep older men for money and favours.

Romance › Re: How Do You Like To Be Kissed? by dederocs(m): 12:29pm On Dec 14, 2012

[quote author=Ileke-IdI]ewwww,

Naija men cant kiss, Olorun.

That shoit is so disgusting. It's like they're trying to spit in your mouth[/quote]MAYBE YOU ARE WITH THE WRONG GUY...SORRY, SPEAK FOR URSELF.

Romance › Re: How Do You Like To Be Kissed? by dederocs(m): 12:28pm On Dec 14, 2012

Vikin: Person like you na only mouth you get, can't do jack? No offence!

no need for dis...dont be a hater.

Romance › Re: Why Do Babes Fall So Cheaply To Guys Over The Internet /facebook by dederocs(m): 12:25pm On Dec 14, 2012

hooklover: As i write , i am watching an unfolding drama between my fiancee and 2 guys she been chatting over the internet.

She is a medical student in one of nigerian university 6ool

i do my best to make her happy and send doe to her to make here concentrate on her studies, but she has chose to throw dignity to the winds and become a call girl of sort to the highest bidder.

some time last week i just decided to log onto her face book acct to c what she was really up to after seeing he r recieve some strange calls she denied as unimportant and they were not constesting with me for he as i had engaged her, this gave me some relief, but the relief was short lived.

the first guy came from america and in her chat messages i see series of MouthAction on face book i was shocked,

i could not imagine her saying she will be sucking dick on fb i mean she ws lost erotically and this is the babe that my parents have give a go.

i could not imagin her inviting the guy to town to experience his dick in her mouth the arrangement is been planned on how they will meet in the hotel in 2 wks time take note they met of face book and have not seen each other face to face. i hope to catch them .n

Guy 2 guy who know she is engages and i have told him to stop calling her and he obliged only for my babe to go on chat and continue where he stopped and promse the next time they meet to pregnant her

and she said what she need is the flight tick to lagos for the show.

so i am worried cos if i com marry dis kind shameless doctor when i go offshore she will just dis grace me.

My plan, b4 she disgrace me i will disgrace her, i have saved all her chat messages and hope to publish it on face book so ppl go c the kind person she is.

So y all these just when i do lov to marry her,

MY BROTHER YOU ARE A REAL JEW MAN...SO MUCH FUN ON THE NET,DONT BLAME THE GUYS-BLAME UR BITCH.

Romance › Re: Should A Married Woman Wear A Short & Revealing Dress? by dederocs(m): 12:22pm On Dec 14, 2012

Davo123: Dis culture tin wil cause serious problem in d coming generations

the culture thing is a farce,hypocrites talk about it,no one respects it.

Romance › Re: Should A Married Woman Wear A Short & Revealing Dress? by dederocs(m): 12:20pm On Dec 14, 2012

Adamo84: You mean if your Neighbour has a bad smell coming from her Kitchen which is just Opposite yours, You will still say "Live and Lets Live"? I have said this over time, "Freedom is Used, Mis-used and Abused"

MIND YOUR BISUNESS,OR GO NORTH GO FIGHT BOKO HARAM...THAT SHOULD CONCERN YOU.THE ANALOGY U GAVE IS SENSELESS MUMU.

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Romance › Re: Should A Married Woman Wear A Short & Revealing Dress? by dederocs(m): 12:19pm On Dec 14, 2012

[quote author=deepwaters ]Not appropriate, but I guess its a matter of personal opinion. Single or married, I can't ever wear something like this![/quote]DEEP WATERS...hmmn,hw deep or muddy is the water wink

Romance › Re: Should A Married Woman Wear A Short & Revealing Dress? by dederocs(m): 12:16pm On Dec 14, 2012

freecocoa: Such ugly and un-fresh looking legs.

TALK TRUE,FOR YOUR LIFE YOU DON EVER Bleep GIRL WEY FRESH OR TIGHT LIKE DIS?...TALK TRUE. wink

Romance › Re: Should A Married Woman Wear A Short & Revealing Dress? by dederocs(m): 11:51am On Dec 14, 2012

tpacalipse: Is beyonce married or engaged?

YOU ARE A DUMB,JOBLESS CLOWN-IMAGINE YOUR QUESTION.PLS GO FIND WORK.

Romance › Re: Should A Married Woman Wear A Short & Revealing Dress? by dederocs(m): 11:47am On Dec 14, 2012

binger: Married woman? She needs to be flogged umpteen times precisely on her left yansh

if them burn your fada well go flag her na...stupid goat.must u look?

Romance › Re: Should A Married Woman Wear A Short & Revealing Dress? by dederocs(m): 11:45am On Dec 14, 2012

ghettodreamz: Hello No!!!

God forbid bad thing...

Inasmuch as I like ladies(women) who take pride in their beauties, however this is just out of place.

A good married woman, MUST always dress neatly & attractively with MODESTY as her dress code.

If married woman dresses with parts of her body revealing, THEN what message is she passing to her kids?

This is indecorous dressing under the guise of fashion, abomination.
EVEN YOUR VILLAGE CHIEF DEY Bleep ALL THESE YOUNG UNIVERSITY GIRLS,YOUR GOVERNOR TOO.HYPOCRISY IS KILLING NIGERIA.WE HAVE TO KILL HYPOCRITES SORRY HYPOCRISY.

Romance › Re: Should A Married Woman Wear A Short & Revealing Dress? by dederocs(m): 11:43am On Dec 14, 2012

marvelck: RE: Good or Bad?

Please should a married woman (with a child )dress like this to an event all cos of fashion. Mbanuuu!

That was what i was trying to tell some people yesterday, when some girls wrote to disagree with my opinion. but i guess our views can not be the same.and culture differs. like a lady from yankee was trying to prove to me yesterday that there's notin wrong in what she was wearing, cos its a normal thing in america. and while trying to make her realize that our culture and the way we see things are quite different from theirs, she took offence. there are some certain things we can emulate from oyinbos, but not everything. a married woman ought to respect herself and also carry herself well in public. if single ladies are piercing their nose, ears , and wearing bum shorts up and down in public, should a married woman do the same thing? mbanuuu!

you are a big fool for posting this thread,i sure say u no get work.of all the crises-corruption,killings and all-u dey think of what a young girl choose to wear...shows how empty u re

Romance › Re: Should A Married Woman Wear A Short & Revealing Dress? by dederocs(m): 11:41am On Dec 14, 2012

Sijo01: They should cover all part of their body like Lagbaja.

all these local PEOPLE,na village una for die put.
I HATE HYPOCRITES AND LOCAL PEEPS

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Romance › Re: Should A Married Woman Wear A Short & Revealing Dress? by dederocs(m): 11:38am On Dec 14, 2012

tintingz: Why should a married woman expose her body...to who la?? After all the men she has dated during her single age and now gotten married, she still wanna dress nak.ed...SHAME ON WOMEN THAT DO SUCH :p

Even if the hubby dont complain she gat to use her nut-brain to think that she is already married to a man, she must cover up look smart so that other men wont gaze at her

See what oyibo white people as done brainwashed our african women i wonder why some married are still dressing na.ked, is it to spread ya chicken legs to the men or what?

NA JEALOUSY DEY WORRY YOU,IF THEM BURN U WELL EXPOSE THOSE UR YAM LEGS NA cheesy

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Romance › Re: Should A Married Woman Wear A Short & Revealing Dress? by dederocs(m): 11:37am On Dec 14, 2012

ceewai lebi: Nice-gown-and-nice-colour,bur-would-ve-preferred-if-d-gown-was-a-little-bit-down@d-leftcoz+of-her-fat-thigh#juzSaying#

all these poor jealous lowlife bitches,better wake up,na girl like dis go make ur husband turn u to old house maid,times have changed.and stop being an hypocrite,cos what u do is worse than a sexy girl"s dress sense.

Romance › Re: Should A Married Woman Wear A Short & Revealing Dress? by dederocs(m): 11:34am On Dec 14, 2012

IncomeTutor: she should be ready to share her "precious asset" with men
who have money and will go for anything in skirt. After all
only few women can resist the alluring effect of money.

and for that pic up there, i doubt if she can resist money.

a trial will prove me wrong!

SHEY YOUR MAMA FIT RESIST MONEY...ABI YOUR PRESIDENT FIT RESIST MONEY...DUMB PEOPLE ALWAYS SAY TRASH.

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Romance › Re: Should A Married Woman Wear A Short & Revealing Dress? by dederocs(m): 11:33am On Dec 14, 2012

[quote author=ceewai lebi]Is-dat-what-u-call-curvy?(We-talking-about-her-thigh-and-not-her-hip)Lord-Ve-Mercy-and-FYI-am-married-and-try-my-possible-best-2-b-fashionable-but-its-def.-not-like-dis!Well-like-dey-say,Different-strokes-4-different-folks
this girl you are criticizing is successful,while you sit down there with your ugly body talking trash...its simple jealousy,this girl is hot n beautiful.jump into the lagoon if u no like am.come to think of it,...why u go DEY LOOK ANOTHER MAN WIFE,GO PLUCK OFF UR EYES OR WEAR DARK SHADES cool

Romance › Re: Should A Married Woman Wear A Short & Revealing Dress? by dederocs(m): 11:29am On Dec 14, 2012

slap1: People forget that we have a culture that should not be eroded by civilization. I'm not complaining because she's not my wife, I'm bothered about the effects of such dressing. It sets bad example for our daughters, and it could make husbands 'salivate', which could lead to infidelity. . .which could also make the pro-civilization gals on Nairaland to open a men-are-dogs thread.

WHICH USELESS CULTURE,WHERE ALL THE OLD MEN THAT SUPPOSED TO PRESERVE THE CULTURE ARE OCCUPYING POLITICAL OFFICES,FUCKING YOUNG GIRLS,AND THE OLD CHIEFS IN THE VILLAGE SELLING TITLES FOR MONEY.BETTER WAKE UP,ALL THESE CULTURE TALK NA OFFICE.

Romance › Re: Should A Married Woman Wear A Short & Revealing Dress? by dederocs(m): 11:27am On Dec 14, 2012

marvelck: RE: Good or Bad?

Please should a married woman (with a child )dress like this to an event all cos of fashion. Mbanuuu!

That was what i was trying to tell some people yesterday, when some girls wrote to disagree with my opinion. but i guess our views can not be the same.and culture differs. like a lady from yankee was trying to prove to me yesterday that there's notin wrong in what she was wearing, cos its a normal thing in america. and while trying to make her realize that our culture and the way we see things are quite different from theirs, she took offence. there are some certain things we can emulate from oyinbos, but not everything. a married woman ought to respect herself and also carry herself well in public. if single ladies are piercing their nose, ears , and wearing bum shorts up and down in public, should a married woman do the same thing? mbanuuu!

WHAT THE Bleep IS YOUR BISUNESS,THINK ABOUT PEOPLE STEALING YOUR MONEY,NO CHOP BELLYFUL DEY POST RUBBISH.MUMU.

Politics › Re: Striking Workers Beat-up Commissioner In Plateau by dederocs(m): 11:26am On Dec 14, 2012

HNosegbe: How on earth does Okija get these funny pics/videos?

This Okija is a mad man,very dumb and a waste of space.

Politics › Re: Striking Workers Beat-up Commissioner In Plateau by dederocs(m): 11:24am On Dec 14, 2012

[quote author=Okija_juju]Rephrase that!!! Point one Nigerian politician that is a thief... (thats how you should phrase such a question)

Listen.. You talk like a child.. Its okay to say you suspect all Nigerian politicians to be thiefs.. But to come out and categorically call all of them thieves without one shred of evidence makes you out to look like an iidiot.

If you cant prove that they are thieves.. SHUT THE FHUCK UP!!!
YOU ARE A BIG FOOL,EXCEPT YOUR FATHER IS A POLITICIAN...BLIND IDIOT,SCUMS LIKE YOU MAKE THESE POLITICIANS FEEL LIKE DEMI Gods...u re a disgrace to ur family to be blind to what we all see.
Otherwise, you are also a thief.. Reason: Because I just called you one.. [/quote]

Politics › Re: Striking Workers Beat-up Commissioner In Plateau by dederocs(m): 11:21am On Dec 14, 2012

[quote author=Okija_juju]I can swear that these people above all condemned ALUU COMMUNITY for doing the same thing..
[/quote]The Aluu situation is way different from this,these guys are fighting for their rights...thier salaries.politicians are heartless criminals and saboteurs of National growth and development,they should be dealt with.nice one by the protesters.

Politics › Re: Okonjo-Iweala’s Mother Has Been Freed - SaharaReporters by dederocs(m): 11:16am On Dec 14, 2012

Born 2be Rich: After them don catch 63 suspects wetin you expect...Even the real kidnappers sef go fear na...

DONT BE EASILY FOOLED BY ALL U HEAR,POLITICS IS A GAME OF LIES AND DECIET...POLITICIANS USE MONEY TO BUY PEOPLE TO SAY WHAT PEOPLE WANT TO HEAR

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Politics › Re: Okonjo-Iweala’s Mother Has Been Freed - SaharaReporters by dederocs(m): 11:09am On Dec 14, 2012

Am sure money have exchanged hands...trust Nigerian government,always looking for an easy way out.

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