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Truthseeker10:
Who is a messenger?

Kindly show me where I said that Jesus was not a son of God.

then what is your point

guobe:
Thanks

sorry for d lost. God will help the person

Truthseeker10:
John 17:3.

King James Bible
And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.

ok........ The fact that God the heavenly Father sent to the Lord Jesus Christ to earth, does that make the Lord Jesus Christ a messenger. If a boss in a place of work send a subordinate a message, does that mean that subordinate is a messenger to that boss. God sent his son Jesus Christ to earth doesn't mean that the Lord Jesus Christ is a messenger. You should know more that this. Dont read the Bible with a bias mindset. So if your father send you a message, you are on longer a son to your father, you are now a messenger to him. This is very simple to understand

Truthseeker10:
So do you agree that we must have the knowledge of the Father and his messenger Jesus Christ?

the Lord Jesus Christ is not the messenger of God. He is the son of God. No matter how hard you guys are trying to hid this truth, it would not be hidden because our salvation is in the fact that the Lord Jesus Christ, the son of God came this world and died for our sins and on the third day, he resurrected from the dead. That is our salvation. That is what make us free from the shackles of sin and the devil. And there is no other way to be truly save

doffman:
Good
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My only problem is that, that god is powerless and useless .

How can a God be nailed by a common men.

And you expect that same powerless god to safe you ? 🤣

Abegi , who do this to you ?🤣

that is what you don't understand. Jesus is not powerless. He is a God but he came to the world to die for our sins. The only way the Lord Jesus Christ can fully pay for the sins you and I as human being commit is if He as God would come and become a human being like us and be nailed to the cross and on the 3 day He resurrected from the grave. That process is what save us. It may sound foolish to you but we are proud of it.

Truthseeker10:
Do you agree with the diagram in the screenshot below in explaining the Trinity?

all this diagram na sakamaje. Jesus is God period

immaculatesense:
1. That Jesus is god based on his divinity and existence and also the confirmation of Thomas in John 20:28-29
John 20:28-29
[28]“My Lord and my God!” Thomas exclaimed.
[29]Then Jesus told him, “You believe because you have seen me. Blessed are those who believe without seeing me.”

2. That the Father is greater than the son (Jesus). This is also confirm by Jesus himself severally and accept that the Father is his god as clearly stated in John 14:28 and John 20:17.

3. That the son (Jesus) is subject to the Father and the Father is not subject to the son as clearly stated in 1 Corinthians 15:27-28.
1 Corinthians 15:27-28
[27]For the Scriptures say, “God has put all things under his authority.” (Of course, when it says “all things are under his authority,” that does not include God himself, who gave Christ his authority.)
[28]Then, when all things are under his authority, the Son will put himself under God’s authority, so that God, who gave his Son authority over all things, will be utterly supreme over everything everywhere.

I DO NOT THINK YOU DISAGREE WITH ANY OF MY THREE POINTS ABOVE.
THANKS.

good viewpoint. But all this your English and blabbing, is confusing your viewpoint

Truthseeker10:
Is Jesus the Almighty God?

Jesus is God

immaculatesense:
Sir, what level sir? Please, read all my write up on it and you will understand my viewpoint is well evident in the scriptures.

share your viewpoint, let me under you

Nnamdipapa:
If you say " God doesn't like looking at what they are doing because His eyes are too pure!" does it mean God is not aware and have no knowlege of such people?

Your Bible interpretation of that passage is debatable and subject to your personal interpretations. I can confidently say over 99% of Pentecostal Christians disagreeing with you.

thank you brother. Even somebody that may not fully believe in God still have problem believing you jw. You see how devish and deceitful you guys are

MaxInDHouse:
All powerful YES but all-knowing and all-present is not biblical!

all knowing and all present is not biblical. I just don't want to engage with you but you keep spilling out nonsense.

AbuTwins:
God gave Adam a woman and God gave David many women!

No be same God?

is it God that gave David the many women he married. It was God that made David went to the top of a building and sighted bethseba, Uriah's and make him impregnate her and kill Uriah abi. You see as you dey think.

gohf:
it's strange how because of this "gift" Adam was punished for listening to her

some times you confuse yourself

MaxInDHouse:
Are you ready to talk or you still want to hide in your cave?


Ọmọ i don't have time for delusional religionists so if you don't have anything tangible to offer please keep off!

the guy that open the post in his little sense was just comparing but you have start with your devish view

immaculatesense:
Yes, I do, since they are 'divine' that makes them 'god' (elohim). According to Psalm 82:1
‭Psalms 82:1 NIV‬
[1] God (elohim-) presides in the great assembly; he renders judgment among the “gods” (elohim):

I interprete this passage as "the Father (elohim) god presides in the great assembly, he renders judgement among the angels (refer to by the psalmist as gods (elohim) just like in Psalms 8:5. I believe this is somehow relatable with Job 1:6 and Job 2:1. I believe in both passages, the scriptures refers to the heavenly assembly or court as an assembly of angels or heavenly beings who have been sent by the Father to lead and guide the affairs of men. They give report and account to the Father on how they manage the affairs of men. I think along the line, the issue of idolatry has it stem from men's encounters with this heavenly beings overtime. So, yes. Angels were referred to across scriptures as 'elohim' which means god.

you own come serious oooo. We have been battling with maxi and his brothers but this your own is on a whole new level

cornelboy:
Just a comparison.
Read well

just a comparison and you have made people pick point to it. Look at what maxi said.
We should becareful with what compare

MaxInDHouse:
Pharaoh made Joseph ruler over all his household and the entire land of Egypt {Genesis 41:39-41} just as God made Jesus ruler over all His belongings {1Corinthans 15:25} it is written in the prophecies long before Jesus' birth {Psalms 105:21} but Joseph is still in subjection to Pharaoh {Genesis 41:40} and Jesus is still in subjection to God! 1Corinthans 15:27

Pharʹaoh further said to Joseph: “I am Pharʹaoh, but without your authorization, no man may do a single thing in all the land of Egypt.” Genesis 41:44

Compare to:

“I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me" John 14:6

YES! Just as nobody could do anything in the land of Egypt without authorization from Joseph no man can see everlasting life without approval from Jesus! Matthew 10:32-33

so you are equating Joseph as the same to Jesus

I am a human being because I was giving birth by a human being. So the Lord Jesus Christ as the the son of God makes him God also. Every trait in God is in the Lord Jesus also. The Lord Jesus Christ said I and father are one. You can't be son of God and not be like God. Jesus is God

buchidinho:
let me shock you!!!

based on the question asked ,the truth is Sin is the only thing that takes one to hell.
if you believe in Jesus you will definitely obey his commandments ,which is to abstain from sin.
that said , if you leave a rightous life without believing in Jesus, u will definitely make heaven.
why do I say ,I'm saying so because before Christ existence they were rightous people who had died before Christ coming .when they died Christ went to the dead and released them into paradise

sir there is no way you will LEAVE A RIGHTEOUS LIFE WITHOUT BELIEVING IN JESUS. Many of us don't know what the Lord Jesus Christ did by dying on the cross and resurrecting on the 3 day. Jesus dying and resurrecting on the 3 day means we have been exchanged with the Lord Jesus Christ. Jesus took our place as a sinner while we became the righteousness of God through Him. 2 cor 5:21 "for he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him". So how can we live a righteous life with believing in Jesus. It is not possible sir

cutecommend:
It is very important I help you this morning so that you won't be living in false confidence while moving on the wrong path.

The truth is that if anyone dies now with any sin, they are going straight to hell; whether they are sinners or believers. But if you accept Jesus Christ and repent before dying or before rapture, you will make heaven. Someone's last state before they die or before rapture, determines their going to heaven. And going to heaven requires no sin in you at your last state on earth.

It is only Jesus Christ that takes one to heaven. If you are morally upright without sin and yet do not accept Jesus Christ as your Lord and personal Saviour, you cannot make heaven. And if you are a Christian and you do not ask for pardon on any known or unknown sin before you die or before rapture, you cannot make heaven.

The purpose of God implanting sanctification and holiness in people is to make them live lives without sin.

While there is heaven for Christians who will die in the great tribulation for refusing to comply with the anti-christ: this is after rapture, I tell you this truth: SIN TAKES A MAN TO HELL.

It is a beautiful Sunday. Please pray quickly, accept Jesus today and repent from all sins. Also attend a Bible-believing church.

if you believe in the Lord Jesus Christ, you will do away from sin. The Lord Jesus Christ said In the book of John, that he that loveth me keepeth my commandments. So if you truly love and believe in the Lord Jesus Christ, you will hate sin

doffman:
🤣
Is your god nailed on the wood with 10 inches nail ?

Yes or no ? 🤣

YES my God was nailed to the cross. Do you have any problem with that

doffman:
Pagan that is already in pain is complaining .


You will copy and paste tire ennn .


Pagan , Oya take your daily drug :

Who take you serious , a pagan that claimed Jesus is his GOD and he was even proud that he was nailed on the cross 😀 :

“My God that was nailed is alive till eternity”

Said by Antlislaam 🎤

After extensive drilling , the chief pagan of Nairaland aka Antilslam also confess further . I quote :

“Should we not change the topic? Is Jesus Christ not my God?

Jesus Christ Of Nazareth is my God, he is the son of most high God, the word of God that came in flesh to save all mankind and move us closer to the father”

Said by Antlislaam 🎤

A pagan cannot be taken serious

with what he said and your Messiah that came and gather follower and at the end of his life, he said he doesn't know where he is going. Which should be taken seriously? Which should we serve?

AntilsIam:
BLACK STONE WORSHIPPER and LICKER, CONDEMNED SLAVE, where is your messenger Muhammad the manufacturer of slaves and business tycoon on slavery business that was poisoned to death like a s!lly rat?

guy you get bad mouth oooo. See finishing

StillDtruth:
Hebrews 1: 4

Being made so much better than the angels, as he hath by inheritance obtained a more excellent name than they.

don't let Max and cohort disturb you, the Lord Jesus Christ can never be a angel. The Lord Jesus Christ is God in the Trinity. So let him continue deceiving himself

JagabanBorgu:
"a debt free nation" is actually a misplaced priority, there are so many things that makes a country functional and being debt free is not close to the top.

so you are saying for Nigeria to be functional we must must be in debt abi

Thanks for this write up. God bless you. I like the part where you said the hardship in Nigeria isn't worth disobeying Christ/ God for.

tctrills:
Lool. You are celebrating the words of men? This is what makes you sleep at night?
If that's the competition then the pastors with more followers are the best. They have more people testifying of them than you would ever have.
You have become the very thing you condemn.
John 13.44
For you love human praise more than you love God.

no wonder he is calling me for a debate. He thinks arguing on nl, is what makes him a better Christian

MaxInDHouse:
Millions throughout the world are won by the preaching and teaching of JWs do you think i was a churchgoer before they won my heart with their teaching?

Obviously you think i want to win you when it should have been the other way around as i was a Muslim before but now you're scared of debating with me on what is written in the Bible.

So with this post of yours it's evident that Jehovah's Witnesses are winning as none of you can present his church with a unique doctrine that's useful in making real disciples like Jehovah's Witnesses are doing! Matthew 28:19-20

I don't care about the millions of people, I care about myself. I care for my soul not to get lost. So millions of people can be brainwashed by your occult teachings, that is s not my business. My business is that my soul is saved. And I will by the grace of God try also to share the gospel and win others on the part of darkness and occultist group like your jw.

The only way you can be save is when you believe in the name of Jesus. Until you know that the Lord Jesus Christ who is the son of God came to this world in the flesh, die in the cross on the flesh and resurrected from the death in the flesh, that is only when you can be save. If you like short change it. If you like believe the gimmick of the world, it is only when you believe in the name of Jesus that you can be save.
Don't make it too late. Believe now and open your heart for Jesus. Confess him into your life and He will come into your life and give you eternal life.

MaxInDHouse:
Thanks for letting others see the strong scriptural backing Jehovah's Witnesses have for believing that Jesus is the same Archangel Michael.

May you have peace!

say anything you want. You have not win me and you cannot win anybody

MaxInDHouse:
The same question has been raised in another thread after the strong scriptural explanation from Jehovah's Witnesses this is what delkuf has to say:



This is evidence that he is not interested in the truth all he wants to do is contradict whatever is presented against his preferred idol.

am not interested in your lies and deceit from the pit of hell. You go explain tire

MaxInDHouse:
Is that what the Bible told you or religion?

If someone is called the firstborn in the family does it separate himself from other children born into that family? Colossians 1:15-16

If Jesus is the firstborn of creation it simply means he is part of creation!

you go explain tire