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Originakalokalo:
Ok. I forgot to tell you that the message is not For people like you. I am not on nairaland to convince anyone....it is meant for the Christians to be able to stand.

When you breath your last breath, you will become immortal... Then whatever happens then is your cross to carry.

The chance of anyone dying young this days is very high....because of evil on Earth.

You don't know if you will grow older or not. tick tock your time/my time is ticking.

God bless you

winner01:
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there some that have been won to Christ before. it is an evil spirit control them, and like every other evil spirit,it can be bind and loose. there is nothing God cannot do. The Lord Jesus Christ said all power in heaven and on earth has been given to Him(matt28:18). we serve the one that have the power. I believe they can still be converted

hopefulLandlord:
Sorry I won't meet you in person but I can give you my digits, we can talk privately but physical meeting? No!

ok. we talk then

geoworldedu:
Joseph was not aware that the Holy Spirit has fornicated with his fiancee. But why? Can't the Holy Spirit go for someone not already engaged? Maybe the nigga din't know Mary's engaged sha.

not everything you joke with

hopefulLandlord:
Is there anything you would say to me face to face that its impossible here?

Is this god and holy spirit of yours not everywhere again? why do we need to meet then?

God is everywhere no doubt. but I just want us to meet and talk. maybe lunch or something

hopefulLandlord:
If people like Oyedepo who uses security in his church while preaching divine protection to his sheeples, Adeboye who preaches that anyone who doesn't give 10% to him would not make heaven, Oyakhilome who has turned to god of men in CE, Thief B Joshua who sent prayer water to Sierra Leone as cure for Ebola and saw a female POTUS are all heading to heaven then I'd gladly chose hell where I'd meet Christopher Hitchens, Rich Dawkins, Darwin, George Eastman, Stephen Hawkins, Alan Turing, Daniel Dennet, Peter Singer etc

Even if the pastors I listed don't make heaven I don't want heaven either. I don't want to be in the presence of a megalomaniacal god who demands praise and worship forever

so can we meet

hopefulLandlord:
What if you "hold on to the the words of the bible" by faith and find out the Koran was actually true after you die? you'd end up in hell with the Hindus, atheists, deists etc so you do have something to lose.......

I pray you don't hopefully become a landlord here on earth, but also in heaven. I wish we could see one on one and talk, not to debate like you want. I am convinced that if we see, Jesus will touch your heart.

I just believe arsenal great things this season. arsenal Wenger long lost the winner mentality, but Emery that Always want to win. we can see with what he did with sevilla. there was too much on him at page, that was why he failed. but now with no pressure on him, I think he will deliver. am not an arsenal fan though

subtlemee:
The world is really coming to an end...soon we all will start to be forced to convert and if you refuse you won't bank,sell,buy or get access to health care

before then, I will in heaven enjoying with my Lord

Zane2point4:
Thats eeh you said my mind hillsong actually make me repent each time i listen to there song, is there another gospel artist that sings just like them?

yea, they are. Don't forget Don meon. then Kari jobe is another good Christian artist. try and download her song. She has good voice. then bethel music. they are good as well.

Glory be to God. I promise you I will be remembering you in my prays. To all Muslims, come to Christ. He loves you

ollah2:
I don't understand the bolded

I read in one post where you said Christians are enemies of Muslims. it is in there quran. so if it is in there quran, why would you say they are the same book?

MuttleyLaff:
The bible, in Romans 12:5 and 1 Corinthians 15:21
lets us know that, it's through one man, that sin (i.e. missing the mark way of life)
and ultimately inherited faults etcetera entered the world through

The bible, in Genesis 4:7, gives an insight in to sin's modus operandi
According to Genesis 4:7, apparently
"sin is crouching at the door.
Its desire is for us, but we must rule over it"

No wonder, in light of Genesis 4:7 above, the bible in 1 John 1:8, says:
"If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us".

God, in Genesis 4:7, told Cain about sin,
God warned him, in the verse, that, sin, is lying so close to the ground near him
and leaning forward slightly, in a ready position, to launch an attack and have him
It is always this "lying low, taking position and waiting to spring" same way, that sin operates or works
Cain's parents, Adam & Eve, before him, were at the receiving end of sin and how it operates and works.

¹⁴But every man is tempted, when he is drawn away of his own lust, and enticed.
^15aThen when lust hath conceived, it bringeth forth sin:
and sin, when it is finished, bringeth forth death.
- James 1:14-15

Now from James 1:14-15 above, the answer to question:Why Is There Still Sin In The World? becomes clearly visible & understood
as it confirms 1 John 1:8's position when saying:
"If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us".

Sin will continue and always be in this world,
as long as, giving in to desire(s), to do something, especially something wrong or unwise exists

Genesis 4:7, says the desire(s) is contrary to you, but you must rule over it.
as in, the desire(s), want to dominate you, but you must master, overcome or subdue it."

Sin, when the fullness of time had come, will cease to exist
Until then, sin is still in the world, it lives in and around all of us,
waiting in the wings, to be birthed, after lustful desire has conceived

What is sin?
It is an unattractive or unsatisfactory feature, in every person's character.
Sin, from God's point of view and a Jewish concept, is missing the mark
Sin is doing something, especially something wrong, that cant be permitted or that's unwise to the point of not meeting up with God's standard

It also, is deviating from not, doing each of the 3 righteousness Rights rites, at the same time.
i.e. Do the Right thing, done at the Right time, without stopped being at/on God's Right side

So put to death the sinful, earthly things lurking within you.
Have nothing to do with sexual immorality, impurity, lust, and evil desires.
Don't be greedy, for a greedy person is an idolater, worshiping the things of this world.
- Colossians 3:5

How is lust formed, that gives birth to sin?
Colossians 3:5, corroborates 1 John 1:8, in that we have sin living in us.
Implying, when one goes along with thoughts that come up in the mind to do something, especially something that's wrong or unwise
then one will find themselves, consumed by the desire, as a result of giving in to whatever the lurking temptation was, that's within us.
Whenever these thoughts and strong desires are conceived but not checked,
they lead to committing an uncharacteristic error
Carrying out the uncharacteristic error & the state or condition of being wrong in conduct or judgement, is what gives birth to sin(s)

How does one stop the birth of sin,
how can one see self, dead to sin, through Christ Jesus
and live above every sin that reigns over one.?

"Those who belong to Christ Jesus have nailed the passions
and desires of their sinful nature to his cross and crucified them there."
- Galatians 5:24

Well, we know that James 1:15b said:
"sin, when it is finished, bringeth forth death"
If what is good for the goose, is equally good for the gander.
then what Colossians 3:5 and Galatians 5:24 above,
are advising as a good antidote to James 1:15b, is that, kill sin, before sin kills you
Kill because what doesn't kill you, will likely try again

"For if you live according to your human nature, you are going to die;
but if by the Spirit, you put to death your sinful actions, you will live.
- Romans 8:13

"Let me explain further.
Live your life as your spiritual nature directs you.
Then you will never follow through on what your corrupt nature wants"
- Galatians 5:16

Apart from Romans 8:13 plus Galatians 5:16 above and Galatians 5:24 further above, Galatians 5:16 warns:
"Don't let sin keep ruling your lives.
You are ruled by God's undeserved grace and not by the Law."

sin is simply disobeying

bloodofthelamb:
Dead to sin but alive unto righteousness through Christ. Hallelujah!

thank you brother. You see, I have been struggling with sin for some time now, it is not until the Holy Spirit showed from Colossians 3:3-4, that Christ is my life. And since then I have win the victory over sin. so we are dead to sin and we live in the flesh through Christ that is our life. thank you brother

ollah2:
Why can't the Biible be tagged with the Quran?
What makes the Bible different from the Quran?

they are two different book. it is one book that you should hate the people that believe in the other book. you said it yourself this morning. so do you want to tell me that they are the same book

theoldpretender:
Then why did Jesus say the follwing

He who must be great in the Kingdom of God must be a servant of all (Matthew 20 vs 26, Mark 9 vs 35).

Part ofour calling as sons involves us learning to serve...because it teaches us humility, and also makes us by extension more Christlike.

As exemplified by Jesus washing the feet of his disciples. Imagine that God, the creator, washing the feet of his creation (a job that would have been performed by a servant).

Being a servant does not lessen our sonship...it enhances it and makes us more of a light to the world.

you've said it all. part of our calling is to serve, but that doesn't make us servants. notice it

anataala:
The First miracle of Jesus in The Holy Quran



The Bible says the first miracle of Jesus, occurred when he was over thirty years old. In John 2:1-10, this miracle when Jesus turned water into wine in a wedding. Jesus made this potent wine that the men have "well drunk." This was not grape juice. It was the same wine that, according to the Bible, enabled the daughters of Lot to seduce their father, Genesis 19:32-33. It was the same wine that the Christian is advised to avoid in Ephesians 5:18 "And be not drunk with wine." The Quran does not mention this alleged miracle to Jesus.

On the other hand, in Islam, Jesus′ first miracle occurred when he was a baby. He spoke as an infant. He talked to defend his mother from any devious judgment from her people. Now ask yourself, which version of the first miracle would you choose for Jesus? The Islamic version or the Biblical version? The Christian could read in the Quran everything he wanted to know about Jesus, but in the most noble, elevated and sublime language. A Christian or a Muslim, when reading the above story in the Quran, could not help being moved by it. I personally saw Muslim adults crying in humility when reading or listening to this miraculous story of the birth of Jesus.

The second section of Surah Maryam, Surah 19, Ayah 16 to 40, tells the story of the birth of Jesus:

16. Relate in the Book (the story of) Mary, when she withdrew from her family to a place in the East.

17. She placed a screen (to screen herself) from them; then We sent her our angel, and he appeared before her as a man in all respects.

18. She said: "I seek refuge from thee to ((Allah)) Most Gracious: (come not near) if thou dost fear Allah."

19. He said: "Nay, I am only a messenger from thy Lord, (to announce) to thee the gift of a holy son.

20. She said: "How shall I have a son, seeing that no man has touched me, and I am not unchaste?"

21. He said: "So (it will be): Thy Lord saith, "that is easy for Me: and (We wish) to appoint him as a Sign unto men and a Mercy from Us": It is a matter (so) decreed."

22. So she conceived him, and she retired with him to a remote place.

23. And the pains of childbirth drove her to the trunk of a palm-tree: She cried (in her anguish): "Ah! would that I had died before this! would that I had been a thing forgotten and out of sight!"

24. But (a voice) cried to her from beneath the (palm-tree): "Grieve not! for thy Lord hath provided a rivulet beneath thee;

25. "And shake towards thyself the trunk of the palm-tree: It will let fall fresh ripe dates upon thee.

26. "So eat and drink and cool (thine) eye. And if thou dost see any man, say, "I have vowed a fast to ((Allah)) Most Gracious, and this day will I enter into not talk with any human being""

27. At length she brought the (babe) to her people, carrying him (in her arms). They said: "O Mary! truly an amazing thing hast thou brought!

28. "O sister of Aaron! Thy father was not a man of evil, nor thy mother a woman unchaste!"

29. But she pointed to the babe. They said: "How can we talk to one who is a child in the cradle?"

30. He said: "I am indeed a servant of Allah. He hath given me revelation and made me a prophet;

31. "And He hath made me blessed wheresoever I be, and hath enjoined on me Prayer and Charity as long as I live;

32. "(He) hath made me kind to my mother, and not overbearing or miserable;

33. "So peace is on me the day I was born, the day that I die, and the day that I shall be raised up to life (again)"!

34. Such (was) Jesus the son of Mary: (it is) a statement of truth, about which they (vainly) dispute.

35. It is not befitting to (the majesty of) Allah that He should beget a son. Glory be to Him! when He determines a matter, He only says to it, "Be", and it is.

36. Verily Allah is my Lord and your Lord: Him therefore serve ye: this is a Way that is straight.

37. But the sects differ among themselves: and woe to the unbelievers because of the (coming) Judgment of a Momentous Day!

38. How plainly will they see and hear, the Day that they will appear before Us! but the unjust today are in error manifest!

39. But warn them of the Day of Distress, when the matter will be determined: for (behold,) they are negligent and they do not believe!

40. It is We Who will inherit the earth, and all beings thereon: to Us will they all be returned.

The above verses represent the personal side of the experiences of the worshippers of Allah in relation to their familiar with the presence or environment.

you see the problem with you Muslims is that you are tagging the Holy Bible with Qur'an, that is wrong. we Christian don't believe your Quran. the Bible is different from the Quran. what you study in the Quran, is only in the Quran. it is not in the Bible. so don't tag it together

theoldpretender:
Wow...a good topic!

Well, I would respectfully disagree with the OP for 2 reasons

1. Christians are called to be servants of all, and also to be a light. And one of the ways you can do that is by being in politics.

If Wiberforce had not been a politican in 18th-19th century England, he wont have been able to lead the moves that led to slavery being abolished in British dominions. Likewise, a lot of good laws in the Western world were moved by Chirstians actively participating in politcs. You don't get that by praying in the church.

2.Jesus said that we have to be as wise as serpents. So...if we don't take part in politcs, we lose a means by which we can influence the world for good.

ALSO...

Back in the time of Jesus, most governments were not participatory democracies, but autocracies. EVEN then, Chirstians still did things that changed their world.

For example,a common practice in Rome was the throwing away of unwanted children...who were then raised as slaves. Chirstians took in some of these kids, and raised them.

PLUS

The gospel spread in many places because Christian missionaries converted the ruler, and the population followed.

You are called to be servant, not we Christian. as a Christian, I am a son to God. thank you

gabicon:
Favour is God's willingness to use his power and abilities on my behalf even when I don't deserve it. Charles Capps

Niceeeeeeeeee

PUSSYBBQGRILLS:
favour = what you don't merit

that is it. what you don't merit...

ollah2:
Pls pick a poison rather than changing directions.

Initially you said God is God and Jesus is his son

Now you are saying God is God but God also made Jesus God because of his humility.

Which is which sir?

you didn't get it. yes Jesus is the son of God. and because He came to earth and died for our sins, without acting with pride or disobeyed God, God now made Him a God and Christ. for to better understand this, let say you have a company and your son is the MD of the company. You now told your son that if he could work and make the company grow to a certain level, you will make him the general overseer of the company both may be here in Nigeria and abroad. And your son attain that height, and you made him the general overseer. DOES that make him not your son any more? You only placed him in a better position. so the fact that God made Jesus doesn't mean He is not His Son. God only placed Jesus in a position that no one can reach. thank you

[quote author=TheUbermensch post=69604666]Lmao.

It's nidderings like you that give Christianity a bad image of a religion of thoughtless souls. What's next? You won't work again because God provides? Or you won't sleep with your wife again because God gives children? How about not taking drugs next time you're ill because God heals?

Evidently you don't know how muc hates fools. Don't be one in an effort to misinterprete his words. [/quot . I never didn't say I wont work or marry. what I meant was that I wouldn't put my trust in a man, because it will fail. with all the promises of buhari, how many has he fulfill. answer me. give 50 years and continue to believe that he will give 5k to the old folks. that the price of oil will come down or any of his change slogan, nothing will happen. let remain there for life, nothing will happen. YOU continue believing on him to better your situation, but me I will trust only in God. thank you. And please don't insult me

ollah2:
So God is God while Jesus is a son which make him an assistant God.

What does Jesus is lord means?

I never said Jesus is an assistant God. please let learn like matured people. now Jesus is Lord means, the Lord Jesus is also God. In acts 2: 36 says God has made Jesus Lord and Christ. that means due to the humility and obedience of Jesus by dying on the cross for us, God made Him God like Himself and Christ.

TheUbermensch:
Very well then.

I'd mark your username. And remind you anytime you blame Buhari for not taking security matters seriously.

thank you for this. I met someone recently, and our discussion led to decide that in Nigeria, it is only God that can save us. so I have decided that I may not cast my vote in next year election. we put out trust in this people and they have fail us, so it is time to put our trust in God. so am not believing in the change of any man, only the change of God

ollah2:
I need answers to some questions


Who is God?
Who is Jesus?

God is Gid. The supreme being. The creator of heaven and earth. and every thing you see. And the Lord Jesus Christ His is son. came to earth to die for our sins. and through His death we can receive the eternal life of God, and live above sin

TheUbermensch:
So you'd rather your neighbour kills you when you have a chance to defend or protect yourself than actually protect yourself?

Lol. Since God's protection is sufficient why do you sleep with your door closed? Why do you clamour for the president to engage the security forces to go after killer herdsmen? Isn't it a sin to kill? Won't the soldiers have committed a sin by killing the terrorist herdsmen for killing priests in Benue?

Maybe Buhari has exactly like your mindset. Why act when God's protection is enough!?

it would be stupid of me to leave my door open. you dont try or test God. But for me, God's protection is enough for me.

Dottore:
Now u see why we have problems in this country. Lip service everywhere

am not lip servicing any thing. You don't it. When the Spirit of Christ rule your will is no longer your will, but the will of Christ. That is the position am in now. I was writing an exam recently, and there was lot of malpractices which I was involved in, but the Spirit of Christ came into my heart, I stopped writing that exam with four papers left. I don't care if I fail that exam. my brother, when you allow God in your life, you will be doing somethings that naturally you can't do

TheUbermensch:
Until they kill you and your loved ones.

God saves but it's your duty to protect yourself before he does.

I won't give anybody any chance. As long as I perceive you to be an enemy, be you Muslim, Christian or whatever, I'd finish you off before you get a chance to come at me.

so it your duty to protect yourself. if God should remove His of protection on life, do you have the power to secure your life for one minute. please mind you say. there is power in the tongue

cappinjerry:
Why do you pray for your enemies to die when you can kill them. Just save your god the stress and do it yourself. Anuofia

very funny post. though I don't like the killing part, but is funny

JesusSonOfGod:
Thanks a lot. God bless you and increase our knowledge in Him.

Amen

RexTramadol1:
I'm on the 50th floor, they are on the last floor....... Their hands can't move close to my head.

thank you very much. that was why I said I don't have enemies

Dottore:
Would u still pray for your enemies when you watch them behead close members of your family, burn your house and shop then as a friendly part on the back the amputate one of your hand and your leg. Just asking?

yes I will pray for them. the first litmus test for us as Christian, is to forgive. many of us will never experience God in a certain level, until we learn how forgive no matter what is at stake.