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PoliticsRe: Let's Have Your Complaints, Suggestions & Enquiries Here by Demdem(m): 7:34pm On Oct 27, 2013
chieflowo: Sexkillz said moderators are at liberty to insult anyone but they should not be insulted, right?
Yes NL rules said such (however at public figures). If u have issues with such kindly leave this forum. thanks.
PoliticsRe: I Almost Wept When I Read ASUU's 2009 Agreement - Apc's Prof. Adeyeye by Demdem(m):
0monnakoda: There is nothing to tell you.You tell us where you got that from. Stop misleading people.

The FG does NOT fund state universities

The FG negotiated minimum wage with NLC does FG pay minimum wage for states huh We had the same thing with CONMESS does FG pay state doctors?
u are not making sense. i never advocated for such neither did i say such. infact i did say that the bad pill of the entire FG/ASUU agreement was the FG funding of states universities. i am totally against it. try read and understand ones position before poking ur long nose on what u ought not to.
PoliticsRe: I Almost Wept When I Read ASUU's 2009 Agreement - Apc's Prof. Adeyeye by Demdem(m): 12:59pm On Oct 27, 2013
0monnakoda: You keep harping on this point .

yes i keep harping on the truth.

There is no commitment that the money will COME FROM THE FEDERAL government . Can you read English

tell me more please
PoliticsRe: I Almost Wept When I Read ASUU's 2009 Agreement - Apc's Prof. Adeyeye by Demdem(m): 12:55pm On Oct 27, 2013
yelsew80: ^ Hope you guys see why I cant stand this particular human?
I dont expect lower animals to stand humans? My dog dare not disobey my command.
PoliticsRe: I Almost Wept When I Read ASUU's 2009 Agreement - Apc's Prof. Adeyeye by Demdem(m): 12:51pm On Oct 27, 2013
yelsew80: Can you just Get Lost? PLEASE?
and stop putting ur stupidity and foolishness in check. Chai, not possible.
This disease of urs is contagious. need to stop it from spreading to virgin minds.
PoliticsRe: I Almost Wept When I Read ASUU's 2009 Agreement - Apc's Prof. Adeyeye by Demdem(m): 12:50pm On Oct 27, 2013
yelsew80: Can you please stop being petty with your jibes? Thanks in advance
About GEJ's refusal to denounce the agreement in 2009 I believe its for the same reason he's also yet to totally denounce it now. The Americans call it "fillibustering" in parliament. Welcome to Nigeria.
grin grin grin

O yes and we here in Nigeria call it spinning. grin grin

Very soon, Jonathan will also denouce the MOU he nutured and signed. u can only fool ur gullible like grin grin
PoliticsRe: I Almost Wept When I Read ASUU's 2009 Agreement - Apc's Prof. Adeyeye by Demdem(m): 12:48pm On Oct 27, 2013
yelsew80: 1) The said allowance you're referring to is disputed so it's not yet "their" allowance. Agreed?

STFU. The earned allowance isnt disputed. The FG agreed to pay it as a result of them agreeing and signing to it. They even signed an MOU to that effect. Its only disputed in ur skewed brain. besides u are aware that the FG has paid part of it which was the 30Billion released earlier. If it was disputed, why pay part of it?

3) The issue is not about spending billions to fund education - No one would have a problem with that. The issue is funneling nearly the total education budget to tertiary education,

And who decides who gets what in a national budget? when the agreement was made, was this year budget ready? why was the details of this agreement not reflecting in this budget? why is a supplementary budget not sent to NASS to cater for this shortfall?
What is wrong if e allocate 20% of our allocation to Education at all levels? are we even up to 10%?


4) I'm fighting ASUU'S perceived greed, you're free to fight the first lady's. Start by opening a thread dedicated to it as I have and you'll be on your way, dont muddle up issues.

The same greed Jonathan agreed to and promised to nuture. Oponu.
PoliticsRe: I Almost Wept When I Read ASUU's 2009 Agreement - Apc's Prof. Adeyeye by Demdem(m): 12:21pm On Oct 27, 2013
yelsew80: Apology accepted and please accept mine also. I guess it was the frustration of having to deal once again with the perpetual foolishness of Demdemoron that got me riled up, in retrospect i shouldnt have called you names and i apologise.
wesfool, was Jonathan high on kaikai when he promised to abide by the signed agreement and even signed an MOU to that effect? This happened just last year and surely he was in control.
ur frustration will surely lead u to ur early grave. Demdem isnt to be blamed for that. Demdem continues to enjoy life grin grin
PoliticsRe: I Almost Wept When I Read ASUU's 2009 Agreement - Apc's Prof. Adeyeye by Demdem(m): 12:19pm On Oct 27, 2013
yelsew80: Apples and Oranges. Nigeria's tertiary education system has a problem that's a fact no one can deny, how does pumping money to "spoil" lecturers solve the problem?

Wesfool, this was what the senator said:

saying there is nowhere in the world where such allowances demanded are paid to lecturers.

However it has been shown now that he personally benefitted from a range of special benefits and allowances as a professor in US as against hat he claimed. Why dont u use ur brain for once



For the upteenth time I'll repeat, Jonathan had little or no role in the 2009 negotiations.

u obviously dont know. again for the upteenth time, Jonathan reviewed what gamaliel committe did and agreed with it


[s]Yaradua believed he'd assembled a team of technocrats that would bring out a fair agreement when he assembled the Onosode committee that negotiated onbehalf of the government. One can be forgiven for signing an agreement that on the surface appeared to have been so painstakingly put together even though it has turned out to be a sham! The question you and the other Jonathan indicters are yet to answer is why the Yaradua government never bothered to start the implementation.[/s]

why do u keep dodging the fact that Jonathan again agreed with the lecturers and last year signed an MOU ith them re-instating his commitment in Fulfilling the signed agreement. leave the late Yaradua alone. he is dead, lets talk about the living.
PoliticsRe: I Almost Wept When I Read ASUU's 2009 Agreement - Apc's Prof. Adeyeye by Demdem(m): 12:04pm On Oct 27, 2013
Reptyle: cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy

Dude!!! Like seriouslyhuh That was the best comeback you could musterhuh Clown!!!

Guy, you and I could have a very sane argument if you would cut back on your penchant for insults against people who don't share your opinion. It really isn't my style to engage in insults as it totally vitiates the merits of arguments. I take back my insult and apologise. But please DO NOT INSULT ME AGAIN in response to my post on this forum. I give much more than I get.

A foul mouth doesn't make you sound intelligent. Just exposes you as someone who lacks the marble to hold an argument and chooses to resort to bullying to mask their insecurities. I will not be bullied by you or any other person on this forum.

Have fun.
dont be deceived. i have been dealing with wesfool for months. i have examined him, weighed him and found him to be daft.
PoliticsRe: I Almost Wept When I Read ASUU's 2009 Agreement - Apc's Prof. Adeyeye by Demdem(m): 12:02pm On Oct 27, 2013
It pains me real bad to hear some fools cast aspersions on the well respected Gamaliel Onosode who among other well respected Nigerians represented the FG during the discussions. Surely, he did a good job except the FG funding states Universities part IMO.
PoliticsRe: I Almost Wept When I Read ASUU's 2009 Agreement - Apc's Prof. Adeyeye by Demdem(m): 11:54am On Oct 27, 2013
yelsew80: What again is your username? Ok Reptile right? What's the average size of the brain of a Reptile? No wonder! Perhaps you should consider merging your head with Demdemoron's maybe you'll finally get a brain that'll function like a human's!
Oponu, the same old method.
whenever ur skewed argument is rubbished, he goes offensive.
ode.
PoliticsRe: I Almost Wept When I Read ASUU's 2009 Agreement - Apc's Prof. Adeyeye by Demdem(m): 11:47am On Oct 27, 2013
taharqa: So you believe what a local ASUU Union leada says, abi? What do you expect him to say b4?

So which role did GEJ play in the 2009 agreement?? As Negotiator Or the guy that gave the approval?? What powers do you think a VP has in rejecting or approving an Agreement that his principal wanted signed??

In any case, you seem to have completely 'forgotten' the main issue here: that Agreement CANNOT be implemented the way it is. Just IMPOSSIBLE. So what do we do??
Yaradua is Dead and isnt available to defend himself. Jonathan signed MOU last year with the lecturers promising his commitment in ensuring that the signed agreement is implemented. was he drunk when he did that?
PoliticsRe: I Almost Wept When I Read ASUU's 2009 Agreement - Apc's Prof. Adeyeye by Demdem(m): 11:40am On Oct 27, 2013
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yelsew80: Does anyone still need further proof that this guy is a lost cause? You make it seem plausible that asylum inmates now have access to the internet, your arguments are always an insult to common sense. Tufia!
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Rants. No value whatsoever
PoliticsRe: I Almost Wept When I Read ASUU's 2009 Agreement - Apc's Prof. Adeyeye by Demdem(m): 11:39am On Oct 27, 2013
yelsew80: Ignorant people like you are worse problems to the country than the corruption ravaging our society. That agreement was supposedly negotiated over a period of weeks if not months by a committee set up by president Yaradua. He shot himself in the foot by selecting people from the academia to negotiate onbehalf of the FG and the minute an agreement was supposedly reached, vice President Jonathan had no powers to reject the agreement as Pres Yardua had committed the government to agreeing to a "negotiated" outcome. ASUU clearly took advantage of the FG'S naivety and somehow succeeded in getting the agreement signed and thats exactly why they've been insisting on the implementation of the 2009 agreement and nothing else. Airheads like you and Demdemoron should stop peddling petty lies and misinforming people.
Wesfool, it took 3 Good Years to come to an agreement. In between these time, Jonathan has the VP cum former lecturer who is expected to understand the workings of the uni system couldnt advise another intellectual (Yaradua) on the need to do the right thing.

Wesfool, again who do u expect the FG to choose to represent them? the bamangar Tukurs of this world or the Ahmadu Ali's? career politicians right? In ur daft state, govt should employ herbalist to negotiate on their behalf with the doctors. U sound so sttupid really.
PoliticsRe: I Almost Wept When I Read ASUU's 2009 Agreement - Apc's Prof. Adeyeye by Demdem(m): 11:32am On Oct 27, 2013
icon8: Talking about what is good for the goose... Prof Adeyeye should also tell us where in the world parliamentarians are paid the huge allowances he earns as a senator of the Federal Republic of Nigeria, or forever remain silent! He who comes to equity must come with clean hands. I also wept when I read our senators' wage bill!
Excellent Question
PoliticsRe: I Almost Wept When I Read ASUU's 2009 Agreement - Apc's Prof. Adeyeye by Demdem(m): 11:30am On Oct 27, 2013
Reptyle: Seems even Mr. president and Mr Senate President were all parties to the 2009 agreement and also played a key role in its review last year.

http://thenationonlineng.net/new/ASUU-jonathan-party-pact/

Strange to see all these key players feigning ignorance of the content of that agreement barely 5 years after agreeing to it. Perhaps GEJ did not know at the time that the onus to implement it would fall on him at the time.

Poetic justice grin cheesy grin
U dey mind these fools? They are just deceiving themselves.
PoliticsRe: I Almost Wept When I Read ASUU's 2009 Agreement - Apc's Prof. Adeyeye by Demdem(m):
taharqa: Why do you feel the need to always write you comments in BOLD whenever you want to write here? Why do you always feel the need to SHOUT?? Do you somehow believe that makes the fooolishness you usually spew more Sexy and maybe even a little bit Reasonable?? Cos it doesn't. It only enhances it.

By the way, GEJ was NEVER a part of the Negotiating team that drew out that 2009 Agreement Nor was the one that approved it. I know you can possibly sleep without GEJ Nor properly function without him, but keep him out of this your RAT this morning....
Fool, so in ur daft state writing in bold simply means shouting right? U are so dumb. Anyay, how i choose to write is none of ur business and adds no value to the topic of discussion here. before u found ursef in this community, have always been writing like that and ur stupidity wont stop me from such.

Fool, wasnt Jonathan the VP? wasnt he a former lecturer that was supposed to advise the sick yaradua? Admit it, Jonathan was just a waste throughout this period as he was in bayelsa as Gov.

Again, what about the MOU signed last year with ASUU? Jonathan wasnt in charge right.

Tahat, u are running mad ooo.
PoliticsRe: I Almost Wept When I Read ASUU's 2009 Agreement - Apc's Prof. Adeyeye by Demdem(m): 11:22am On Oct 27, 2013
We all keep referring to agreement signed in 2009, what about the MOU signed last year with the lecturers before they called off their strike?
Why is no one referring to such. That MOU recognizes the existence of the agreement and Govt readiness to implement it. Jonathan signed this.
PoliticsRe: I Almost Wept When I Read ASUU's 2009 Agreement - Apc's Prof. Adeyeye by Demdem(m): 11:18am On Oct 27, 2013
yelsew80: Since the first day you came crying into this world you've never made sense! Your arguments in totality are always an insult to literacy, even the most significance of the most basic arguments somehow manages to dodge your fish brain, Demdemoron go get help!
Wesfool, that u arent smart enough to understand what u qouted isnt the fault of anyone. A mad man never admits he is mad. ur case is irredemeably pathetic. U are eternally doom.
PoliticsRe: I Almost Wept When I Read ASUU's 2009 Agreement - Apc's Prof. Adeyeye by Demdem(m): 11:12am On Oct 27, 2013
gregg2: All the members of FG delegation to that negotiation team should be investigated.
lets even agree that the negotiating team did a terrible job, what about the presidency that signed it? What about the Presidency that signed the MOU with ASUU last year when they went on strike and called off after the MOU? doesnt this suggest to u that these lots are fools.
PoliticsRe: I Almost Wept When I Read ASUU's 2009 Agreement - Apc's Prof. Adeyeye by Demdem(m): 11:03am On Oct 27, 2013
kasiem: why did gowon fail aburi agreement and u guys are praising him for that?
the failure led to a war and eventually the weaker link got dealt with.
The failure of implementing this agreement has currently led to a stalemate. Time will tell who will bulged first.
PoliticsRe: I Almost Wept When I Read ASUU's 2009 Agreement - Apc's Prof. Adeyeye by Demdem(m): 11:01am On Oct 27, 2013
[b]If not for Foolish and miserable leaders of which Jonathan was a chief player when the agreement was signed we wouldn't be where we are today.

As beautiful as the agreement is i have always been uncomfortable with FG funding States universities (that is my only issue with the agreement). I wont Blame ASUU because as a Union, the interest of its members and constituencies comes first.
In our individual lives, when we negotiate, we make sure we position and present ourselves on a positive footing to get the best and that ASUU simply did and should be praised for doing a good job. They caught the killer party by the balls.

Having said this, an agreement is an agreement. The idea that its not implementable is pure rubbish. As long as our govt continue to have enough resources for frivolities like food, cars, gates, foreign trips, presidential jets, NASS expenses, executive recklessness running into billions yearly, only the extremely foolish will believe such crap.
UNICEF recommends 26% of a country's budget to education, as it is today we are not even close to half of that. For me, 20% to education should be the starting point.

Here to me is the way foward from this stalemate.

1) Considering the fact that our govt has to live to his words and responsible, Jonathan should immediately implement the full details of the agreement since day 1 when it was signed till Oct 31st 2013. The govt is bound to abide by its signed agreement. u dont change the goal post when the play is ongoing.

2) ASUU should immediately call off the strike as soon as (1) is done.

3) Jonathan should immediately call for re-negotiation of the FG/ASUU agreement to reflect current global practices and country's capabilities.

(3) should never be implemented before (2) because it will cause a very bad precedence and (2) should never be considered before (1) because the FG will term his citizens has fools. they all should follow sequentially as i have proposed.

Hopefully by the time we get to (3) Jonathan will ensure that far more smarter peeps than him will be employed to negotiate on behalf of the FG. ASUU will always have good representations no doubt.[/b]
PoliticsRe: N32m Ransom Paid For Oronto Douglas’ Sister — MEND by Demdem(m): 10:30am On Oct 27, 2013
In otherwords, Jonathan through his aide has made MEND richer by 32 Mila. Wonderful
PoliticsRe: Stella Oduah In Israel (Pictures) by Demdem(m): 10:24am On Oct 27, 2013
Shame no gree her commot that black thing on her face.
PoliticsRe: News Breaking!! Ngige Emerged Winner Of Anambra Gubernatorial Debate Today! by Demdem(m): 6:10am On Oct 27, 2013
gramci: oga dummydummy no look face, take those pills. They are effective
Gramdaft, what pills do ur miserable kind take?
PoliticsRe: News Breaking!! Ngige Emerged Winner Of Anambra Gubernatorial Debate Today! by Demdem(m): 5:00pm On Oct 26, 2013
emmalexabl: Shouldn't you be confined to a mental asylum huh
For stating the obvious truth. i think u are running mad.
PoliticsRe: News Breaking!! Ngige Emerged Winner Of Anambra Gubernatorial Debate Today! by Demdem(m): 9:38pm On Oct 25, 2013
It's not unexpected. He is the best among the miserable lot.
PoliticsRe: New Tax Law: Lagos To Lose N6.25bn Monthly by Demdem(m): 9:13pm On Oct 25, 2013
amarilo: what are you waiting for? Abi no court dey close to ya.

The FG just made a pronoucement. Will like to see what the FG will do if the states especially lagos doesn't abide. Will they seize their allocations againhuh
I don't think anything has change for LASG, its business as usual.
PoliticsRe: New Tax Law: Lagos To Lose N6.25bn Monthly by Demdem(m): 6:40pm On Oct 25, 2013
Nigeria being a federation, does the FG (executives) have the power to dictate to the federating states how best they should go about in securing their internal generated funds? I don't think so.
What does the constitution says about state IRS?
If a state IRS decides to contracts it out to highly skilled professionals, what is FG business in that?
I think we need the courts proclamation here.
FG don't have the powers to enact laws
PoliticsRe: Amaechi Postpones Summit In Honour Of Patience Jonathan's Mother by Demdem(m): 5:57pm On Oct 25, 2013
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deletrue: You scored up to seventy per cent of the truth but Amaechi, in addition, also eyed the VP post as planned and agreed with Obasanjo thereby leading to the anti-party activities involving Amaechi.
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Crap.
PoliticsRe: Amaechi Postpones Summit In Honour Of Patience Jonathan's Mother by Demdem(m): 5:55pm On Oct 25, 2013
OdionOdion: . Gov Ameachi invited the G 7 and the APC lunatics to fight his bossom brother GEJ,you shouldn't be twisting the facts because the roles of Gov Ameachi and NGF is still very fresh to forget
And what is wrong with NGF? What wrong did the chairman, Amaechi commit?

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