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Politics › Re: I Goofed, Businessday Misled Me - GEJ by Demdem(op): 8:49am On Oct 03, 2012
karl max: HOw CAN THE PRESIDENCY RELEASE A PRESS STATEMENT AND NO NIGERIAN PRESS OR ELECTRONIC MEDIA CARRIED THE NEwS?.IS IT THAT SOME NAIRALANDERS ARE SO GULLIBLE OR IS IT JUST HATE? UNA GO SOON KILL UNA SELF FOR GEJ MATTER.
My friend shut up. U are not making sense.

https://www.nairaland.com/1064129/presidency-probes-alleged-lie-jonathan
Politics › Re: I Goofed, Businessday Misled Me - GEJ by Demdem(op): 8:34am On Oct 03, 2012
sunical: The President was right. See facts here

https://www.nairaland.com/1063925/president-jonathan-right-transparency-international

http://www.wikicolumn.com/news/was-nigerian-president-right-on-his-transparency-international-claim-42
Whats the meaning of this? do u know better than the Retardeen himself. He has accepted his mistake. Accept it and deal with it. Stop this hogwash.
Politics › Re: I Goofed, Businessday Misled Me - GEJ by Demdem(op): 8:28am On Oct 03, 2012
Elueme: Talk is cheap, keep talking till, your saliva runs dry. First, this topic is mischievous, it is a very big lie the way it is presented sensationally and very misleading. Secondly, the presidency never said that Nigeria is 2nd to America in the ratings of countries with improved corruption indices however, what the president said and which was based on a pure fact was that Nigeria is ranked second to the US amonged countries who have reinvigorated efforts at reducing the corruption menace( it's left for TI to tell if that effort is improving in the fight or not). He ( GEJ) went further to state ( during the interdenominational thanksgiving service) that the country awaits a new rating from transparency international to see if this will reflect on the country's position. These words are sharp contrast to what political jobbers in the opposition are preaching.. These jobbers thinking that most Nigerians won't think had twisted the president's statement to mean that GEJ said that Nigeria is 2nd to the U S in the fight against corruption .. These are different statement aparts and it will take good understanding of English language to decipher.
Will u STFU? what is misleading in the topic?
Did GEJ not accept his goof? Did he not claim that Businessday mislead him?
U are talking crap.
Politics › Re: I Goofed, Businessday Misled Me - GEJ by Demdem(op): 8:24am On Oct 03, 2012
[b]THE Transparency International has expressed worry over the scope and speed of corruption in Nigeria this year, saying it is beyond what it has ever dealt with.

This was revealed in an open letter to President Goodluck Jonathan by Fitch and Associates in The Hague, The Netherlands, on behalf of Transparency International.

In the letter, part of which was given to Nigerian Tribune by Save Nigeria Group (SNG), the Transparency International said the scam in Nigeria at present is quite heartbreaking.

It reads: “The problem, Your Excellency, has to do with the rate and scale of scams and corruption probes coming out of Nigeria in 2012.

The scope and speed of corruption in your country this year is beyond anything our client has ever dealt with. When the pension scam broke out, the three specialists working on Nigeria complained about overwork and threatened a law suit against Transparency

International because they had to work 23 hours a day from Monday to Sunday just to cope with the figures coming out of that scam.”

The letter further stated that the Transparency International had to transfer country specialists away from zero or low corruption countries, such as New Zealand, Denmark, Finland, Sweden, Singapore, Norway, The Netherlands, Australia, Switzerland and Canada to Nigeria to ensure that the figures were well scrutinised.
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http://tribune.com.ng/index.php/front-page-news/40157-transparency-international-writes-jonathan-on-corruption-rate-as-soyinka-bakare-give-fg-2-week-ultimatum-to-prosecute-culprits
Politics › Re: I Goofed, Businessday Misled Me - GEJ by Demdem(op): 8:18am On Oct 03, 2012
onatisi: i share ur fears ,somethings is seriously wrong with that guy pr teams,too many mistakes too many times,i think he is surrounded by incompetent ppl and yet either he doesnt have the balls to fire them or he cant see their mistake or he sees nothing wrong in them making mistakes,but i am starting to kind of believe and share demdem idea ,this guy gej doesnt have an idea of governance ,i just hope we dont elect another type of him in the coming election because that will be disaterous for nigeria
I have always known this since his bayelsa days. Governance wise, the Retardeen sucks however he is a good father, husband, teacher. generally a good person.
Politics › Re: I Goofed, Businessday Misled Me - GEJ by Demdem(op): 8:15am On Oct 03, 2012
kokoA: If this is true then I wonder why Mr. President have not sent his speech writers parking.. This is really embarassing for the presidency. Now GEJ should know that his enemies isn't the opposition nor his social media critics, his enemies are those dinning with him there in aso villa. No Nigerian wants our country to fail, so it beats my imagination when people criticise the government are calle "haters" of the president. Smh! Maybe the speech was written by an CAN member to embarass the president sha. grin
This post i love kiss kiss
Politics › Re: I Goofed, Businessday Misled Me - GEJ by Demdem(op): 8:10am On Oct 03, 2012
Chubhie: "That anything published and goes unchallenged is the truth" GEJ has good intentions but the sychos and money grabbers keeps misinforming this peace loving and gentleman..... When oga presido nor be small pikin....How dem end up still feeding him lies and he keeps buying baffles me o. I dont envy the position that GEJ box himself into..... Fire all them sychos and make example outta of em.
When a person surrounds himself with advisers like Maku the silly one, Okupe the dog, Abati the Liar, Reno the "spinner" and even non portfolio advisers who are murderers like Ateke, Tompolo, Asari etc and their kind, what do u expect? He is to be blamed for his predicament.
Politics › Re: I Goofed, Businessday Misled Me - GEJ by Demdem(op): 8:05am On Oct 03, 2012
HQ: Geez, Let me get something straight.

The Presidency now get their information from the National Dalies? shocked shocked

Shocking.
From the looks of things, it seems so. very Pathetic.

gregg2: Demdem & Dayokanu are one and the same person. Stop logging in and logging out - switching user Id's.
Will u STFU and face the subject matter of this thread.
Politics › Re: I Goofed, Businessday Misled Me - GEJ by Demdem(op): 8:03am On Oct 03, 2012
taharqa: The President only clarified that the part about the TI report was misleading, not other parts of that speech. If you have any issues with it, point it out so we could debate it.
http://dailytimes.com.ng/article/52nd-independence-speech

This move by the Presidency is simply the best move: admit your mistake, express your regrets and move on. They rightly judged that it doesn't show weakness but Strength to admit( I certainly would NEVER have supported them if they did otherwise cos cant stand Distortions ). It takes courage to discountenance the pettiness of some opposition critics who would surely pounce on this admission of indiscretion to further their own political aims, and do the RIGHT thing; Leadership requires such courage at times.

I expressed my thoughts on this yesterday:
And did i add anything to this position of urs. we are basically saying the same thing. Not everything inside the Retardeen's speech on independence day was true and thats a fact. Besides this shows the kind if incapable hands all around him. I expect at least one of his numerous advisers to have been mandated to do due diligence to this speech before he decided to broadcast it to over 150Million Nigerians.
Already, i'v praised him for accepting his mistake. It takes courage however it shoudnt end there. heads must row. Whosoever is responsible for this goof should be sacked. Such has succeeded in making the President look like a fool. If u must ask me, i am suggesting Abati. He must be sacked.
Politics › Re: Let's Have Your Complaints, Suggestions & Enquiries Here by Demdem(m): 11:27pm On Oct 02, 2012
Ok mods, take this post to frontpage and let's make some money for seun. grin
https://www.nairaland.com/1064053/goofed-businessday-misled-me-gej#12405192
Politics › Re: I Goofed, Businessday Misled Me - GEJ by Demdem(op): 11:22pm On Oct 02, 2012
dayokanu: Jona you still wonder why they call you clueless Retardeen?

Retardeen and his entourage of jesters.

Where are the bootlickers defending the claims just few hours ago
Murphy t and his kind, what can u say to this? Ur attention is needed here.
Politics › Re: I Goofed, Businessday Misled Me - GEJ by Demdem(op): 11:20pm On Oct 02, 2012
dayokanu: In an attempt to salvage President Goodluck Jonathan’s integrity after a PREMIUM TIMES investigation revealed that the president lied on a claim he made in his independence anniversary broadcast to the nation, the Federal Government on Tuesday said the president‘s claim was based on “notorious facts” provided in a newspaper article.

In his Independence Day speech, Mr. Jonathan scored his administration high on many fronts, despite the widely held believe among Nigerians that its performance had been abysmal.

In an apparent attempt to gain international goodwill, he further asserted that the global corruption watchdog, Transparency International, had endorsed his administration’s war against corruption.
“In its latest report, Transparency International noted that Nigeria is the second most improved country in the effort to curb corruption,” Mr. Jonathan had said in the broadcast.

However, in an email to PREMIUM TIMES, Transparency International said the president’s claim is untrue.
“Transparency International does not have a recent rating or report that places Nigeria as the second most improved country in the fight against corruption,” the Berlin-based organisation told this newspaper.

[size=18pt]The presidency, in a statement released this morning, said the president‘s claim was based on “notorious facts” published by Nigeria’s BusinessDay newspaper.

Presidency sources say the president’s gaffe has caused panic among his speech writers and media aides regarding who should take responsibility for the misinformation.[/size]


The panic is also reflected in the official response, posted on the official website of the Federal Ministry of Information, and signed by a person who identified himself as Reno and did not indicate any official designation.

The Reno, who signed the statement, is believed to be Reno Omokri, Mr. Jonathan’s Special Assistant on New Media.

“As is the practise worldwide, we accept the premise that whatever is published in the media and goes unchallenged is the truth,” the statement said. ”On this issue, the media published their synopsis of the most recent Transparency International report and BusinessDay, a well respected newspaper with bias for business reporting in a headline on the 12th of September 2012 with the titled (sic) “FG’s anti-corruption initiative impacts Nigeria’s global perception.”

The statement indicated that Mr. Jonathan’s advisers merely lifted an article from a newspaper without checking its accuracy and then gave it to the president to read to over 150 million Nigerians as independence anniversary day speech, televised on national television and possibly streamed on the Internet.

Reno added that since the BusinessDay report was not challenged by TI, it should be taken as a “notorious fact”.

“The President acted in good faith and his statement was based on notorious facts”.

The president’s aide then chided what he described as some “opposition leaning media houses” for casting “aspersions on the integrity of the President.”

“They lack ideas on how to move Nigeria forward and would rather snipe at the effort of the President to move the nation forward for which any patriot would do,” he said
Thanks for helping a bro out. Nigerians must learn to always crosscheck everything that comes out from the retardeens mouth.
Politics › Re: I Goofed, Businessday Misled Me - GEJ by Demdem(op): 11:13pm On Oct 02, 2012
Johndoe100: This is the kind of nonsense that I expect from sahara misreporters. I trust that fool demdem to parrot anything from those clowns.
Morron, SR only published what a presidential spokesman released to the general public. SR is in line.
Above all, the president has admitted that not all what he said during his speech was true. I salute the retardeen for this. It takes courage to accept ones fault.
Bottom line - Nigeria not yet improving, corruption wise.
Politics › Re: I Goofed, Businessday Misled Me - GEJ by Demdem(op): 11:06pm On Oct 02, 2012
Someone should kindly assist in copying out this article. Thanks.
Politics › I Goofed, Businessday Misled Me - GEJ by Demdem(op): 11:00pm On Oct 02, 2012
http://mobile.saharareporters.com/news-page/presidency-blames-jonathan%E2%80%99s-independence-day-gaffe-newspaper-article-premium-times
Politics › Re: Okupe: Critics Of Jonathan Are Silly Nigerians by Demdem(m): 9:35pm On Oct 02, 2012
Elueme: Why don't you prove your case beyond nairaland forum in a competent court? Till then, you are only making false accusations
The states concerned especially benue has gone to court. No doubt the dog okupe will soon go to jail for abandoning paid projects and eloping with the money. Am not the complainant, am just propagating this good news.
Politics › Re: Orji Uzor Kalu And The Ooni Of Ife (Pictures) by Demdem(m): 7:47pm On Oct 02, 2012
CHESSBOARD: Look at who is talking, the tribalistic warlord himself. This is just a joke and u know it.
My friend shut up. Am above that and u know it. Don't associate me with ur madness.
Politics › Re: Orji Uzor Kalu And The Ooni Of Ife (Pictures) by Demdem(m): 4:21pm On Oct 02, 2012
CHESSBOARD: When it come to Yoruba , I dey shine my eyes grin grin grin,

And let me tell you, thats is not his worth but you ppls way of life .... misers, tongue
Tribal Bigotry will lead no one nowhere.
Politics › Re: Nigeria Ranked 2nd To US In The Fight Against Corruption- Transparency Intl. by Demdem(m): 4:03pm On Oct 02, 2012
bubadaniel13: they bring all sorts of false statistics to make people feel bad abt the govt,we have a choice to subscribe to their lies...GEJ is not a liar, I don't we will ever get a gentle President like him,I wish we can all support him he will certainly deliver...
Well Gej himself thought otherwise because he trust them, no wonder he qouted them and brag about their report.
Politics › Re: Nigeria Ranked 2nd To US In The Fight Against Corruption- Transparency Intl. by Demdem(m): 3:36pm On Oct 02, 2012
bubadaniel13: how transparent is TI?should we continue to allow outsiders to rate us as they wish,I don't subscribe to imperialists judgements.
Excellent. then why are they the basis of Retardeen's boast. Jonathan qouted them to rate his admin high in relation to US. Probably our President doesnt know what he is talking about also
Politics › Re: Nigeria Ranked 2nd To US In The Fight Against Corruption- Transparency Intl. by Demdem(m): 3:21pm On Oct 02, 2012
^^^

No one is asking that it should be wiped out in one year. what we all are requesting is gradual reduction. It cant even be eradicated. However what we have seen so far in this administartion (from 2010 till date) as attested to by Transparency International itself is the opposite. Transparency international said things are getting worse. That expalains why peeps like me believe the Retardeen isnt doing enough if at all he is doing anything except to talk and boast about it. No action. If it improved during OBJ's time why shouldnt it improve now?
Politics › Re: Orji Uzor Kalu And The Ooni Of Ife (Pictures) by Demdem(m): 3:12pm On Oct 02, 2012
CHESSBOARD: Stingy Yoruba man, see the kind of food he gave Orji Uzor Kalu, Bread and stew cheesy grin grin grin
Probably that is his worth in the eyes of the King. By the way, what led u to see such?
Politics › Re: Orji Uzor Kalu And The Ooni Of Ife (Pictures) by Demdem(m): 3:10pm On Oct 02, 2012
But the same Kalu was stoned and booed on getting to the University
Politics › Re: Ikoyi-lekki Link Bridge To Be Commissioned By November by Demdem(m): 2:57pm On Oct 02, 2012
Thank God it has no resemblance to what Odili built for us here in PH.

Politics › Re: Nigeria Ranked 2nd To US In The Fight Against Corruption- Transparency Intl. by Demdem(m): 2:31pm On Oct 02, 2012
[quote author=Frank-C]Let me assume for a moment that you are an anti corruption crusader who does not give a damn (at least all of us have something we don't give a damn about) any political party, please, let us pay a visit to Lagos, the nearest approximation of Nigeria in composition. Did Fashola declare his assets publicly? And while at it, please, tell how much Gov Fashola's feeding budget for 2012 is. You may also find out whose job it is to remove immunity clause. Tell us who represents you at HoR and who your Senator is and how you have made your case to them to push for a bill to remove immunity clause.

[b]U chose to pick whatever of my words and dwell on such. Anyway, its allowed. I said, the retardeen should lead by example. Because its not required constitutionally doesnt mean it isnt needful in a wretched society like ours. He reluctantly declared years ago because his boss made him do so and the perception within the populace then was a good and encouraging development. what has happened between then and now. let the head lead by example and its a matter of time, it will tickle down. Dont ask me about Fashola because i know whatever he may be doing or allocating, it will definately be less than the FG. If GEJ decides to eat approx a 20Million naira of food ion a financial year, i will like to see the governor that will eat more than that that the populace wont attack. I attack the head because that is where the Bulk of the rot comes from.

Again, i said the retardeen should work on removing the clause. The same way he tried unsuccessfully for his tenure elongation being his first bill to NASS after elections, let him also do the same. Even if he did not succeed in this good cause, it will be on record that he tried. The question is what has he done so far about it? what lobbying has he done in making sure this good initiative is implemented.

Besides his party men are the bulk of the peeps in NASS. he is the leader of the party? what has he done to actualise this has a party policy. asking me who my rep or senator is hogwash because if i give u a name, how can u confirmed such?
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Transparency is the first and most important tool in the fight against corruption. If you want to know how to fight corruption with institutions, please tell us what Yar'adua and OBJ feeding budget is like. OBJ's methods failed because the battle was very personalized.

We know now because the PIB bill initiated by Abike Dabiri from the opposition is in play. The bill suffered for years and thank God Abike was tenacious about it. Kudos to the retardeen for making sure he passed it into law but it was not initiated either by him or even the killer party. Obj methods didnt fail because we have culprits in jail to show for it. Fine they may be his enemies but the question is are those ones crucified guilty or not? when OBJ left, it was the turn of OBJ's friends who were once untouchables like Fani-kayode etc. its wrong for u to say that it failed even when TI itself acknowledged that things did improve then.

Structures need to be being put in place to make corruption unattractive. We have not obviously done enough in the fight against corruption, just like all aspect of our national life but to claim that corruption is higher now is simply not true. Rather, we know more about what formerly happens behind the curtains now and this is what i see as the real anti-corruption war, driven by the common man like Demdem and Frank-c and not from the Presidential Villa only that Demdem chose to battle the guys that put him incharge of this battle.

Well, there is no fixed way in fighting it and different peeps with different opinions. Some will tell u structures, some will tell u transparency, some will say killer squad etc however i strongly believe in leading by example. Let Aso-Rock lead by example in deed, in action and projects under utmost disclipline and its a matter i believe the populace will catch the cold.
Even when corruption was minimal in Nigeria during Buhari/idiagbon time, it fever started from the top and not below
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Politics › Re: Nigeria Ranked 2nd To US In The Fight Against Corruption- Transparency Intl. by Demdem(m): 1:36pm On Oct 02, 2012
Murphy T: wot were they praising? or were they praising the sucess of para olympians smiley
Oga, u are just going in circles. have stated what they were praising several times. here is it again:

The survey on global corruption perceptions for 2011 versus 2001 showed that the third best improvement in the world was in Nigeria, with its score improving by 1.5 points. In the scoring, Nigeria follows the United States of America, which scored 2 points, while Bangladesh scored the highest by 2.3 points.

http://www.businessdayonline.com/NG/index.php/news/76-hot-topic/44406-fgs-anti-corruption-initiative-impacts-nigerias-global-perception

Read that as many times as possible hope u saw this:
"perceptions for 2011 versus 2001"
Politics › Re: Nigeria Ranked 2nd To US In The Fight Against Corruption- Transparency Intl. by Demdem(m): 1:28pm On Oct 02, 2012
Murphy T: chere were advise grin grin grin
abegii, speak English and let me understand grin grin
Politics › Re: Nigeria Ranked 2nd To US In The Fight Against Corruption- Transparency Intl. by Demdem(m): 1:27pm On Oct 02, 2012
Camilia247: YOU ARE SO WRONG, de commended Nig's effort in sept.
was there a timeframe there or not? (the years they referenced)
Politics › Re: Nigeria Ranked 2nd To US In The Fight Against Corruption- Transparency Intl. by Demdem(m): 1:26pm On Oct 02, 2012
Murphy T: when u quote me, plz dnt tamper with my words,

i didnt tamper with ur words. i only stressed an important point. by the way those words i wrote had a different font colour. i did nothing wrong. its within forum rules

i hav respect for pple, and i wudnt just called somebody a retardeen, let alone the president...

i also respect people but for the Retardeen, i dont. at least for now. u arent the Retardeen but my president. i cant help it if u dont like it. Other leaders are also called names here on NL so the retardeen shouldnt be an exception. by the way, its within forum rules.

the kudos was given in sept 14th precisely, after the complained in may.

The kudos also came with a timeframe. the specifically told us what they are praising
Politics › Re: Nigeria Ranked 2nd To US In The Fight Against Corruption- Transparency Intl. by Demdem(m): 1:19pm On Oct 02, 2012
bubadaniel13: Oga Demdem pls what's the way forward?
The first thing is for the Retardeen to make up his mind by leading by example. telling me on live TV that he doesnt give a damn does not suggest that he truly wants to fight corruption. work towards eliminating the immunity clause. By the way, someone that consumes approximately a billion naira worth of food in a financial year in the midst of abject poverty and spent millions daily on newspapers etc can never fight corruption truthfully.

When this is done and the retardeen still needs more advise, am at his service. Nigeria will be great again.
Politics › Re: Nigeria Ranked 2nd To US In The Fight Against Corruption- Transparency Intl. by Demdem(m): 1:15pm On Oct 02, 2012
Camilia247: I am so optimistic of not just dis fact but abt nig getting beta. The same way TI complained bitterly, the same way d praised d effort made to fight corruption, so letz wait and c wot de have under their sleeves
definately Nigeria will get better but as regards corruption, its getting worse under this govt. That is a fact. Btw 2010 and now, its getting worse. The praise is for the past decade. TI appreciated the efforts put in place by OBJ/Ribadu to fight corruption. The only thing coming from TI for this govt as regards corruption is condemnation.

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