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Politics / Re: Niger State Governor And Deputy In Certificate Scandal by demmisab85: 2:01am On Jan 14, 2019
This is getting interesting grin

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Romance / Re: If Your Boyfriend Moves To USA Without Green Card, Just Move On by demmisab85: 12:24am On Dec 20, 2018
Yes, that's for real, thanks for the write up.
I personally asked my GF in Nigeria to move on when i moved to the US on F1 student visa for my MBA., am maintaining my status and never stopped my program.

Initially, i thought i could sustain the distant relationship, but after like 4months, I just have to get real with her. It was painful for us both, but it was a great relief on me afterwards.

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Religion / Re: Everyone In Mosque Has Been Praying In Wrong Direction For 37 Years - Imam by demmisab85: 1:16am On Oct 20, 2018
The greatest problem of islam is the quranic doctrine itself. There are so many rules to follow. Islam is more of ideologhy than been a religion. My simple question about direction of praying is that: In which direction do you pray if you’re at the North Pole?
Religion / Re: Largest Muslim Group In England Wants Franklin Graham Banned From Preaching..... by demmisab85: 1:00am On Oct 20, 2018
Hypocrisy of the highest order.

Afterall, Mohammed himself is the chairman of hate speech in religion history. He cursed Christians and Jewish people in the quran and hate them with passion.
Travel / Re: What Will You Miss If You Leave Nigeria? by demmisab85: 1:00am On Sep 27, 2018
Nice thread.
I miss my late night hang out in a bar that has its tables and chairs just at the corner of the main road (because inside is filled up) without the fear that a car running into your midst. The bar plays loud music enough for those that are half a mile away to hear. Drinking multiple bottles of Heineken with cow head pepper soup and driving back home late at speed of 110miles/hr without any fear of a cop behind you. I really miss those moments. grin

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Politics / Re: ‘Shame On You’ – Femi Fani-Kayode Slams Omisore For Declaring Support For APC by demmisab85: 8:28pm On Sep 26, 2018
Hmmmmm....Omisoooreeee!

Personal ambition over general Interest.

Adeleke, i wish you all the best tomorrow.
If it's yours, no one will take it, but if otherwise, your time will definitely come, you have done your bit.

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Politics / Re: Tinubu’s Hand, Osun Central — All The Factors That Will Decide Osun Gov Election by demmisab85: 10:33pm On Sep 21, 2018
The election is just at hand.
Some people will cry on Monday. grin
Foreign Affairs / Re: Naa'imur Zakariyah Rahman Jailed For Trying To Assassinate Theresa May by demmisab85: 7:32pm On Aug 31, 2018
ollah2:



i like your sensational replies, however it doesn't hold water. It was 2011 that Trump because president of USA right? Does that change the fact thet Christian terrorist intended killing Trump and Obama? Is USA not part of the world anymore?

You are shifting goal post now when you are saw how your fellow Christian terrorists are committing terrorism up and down, since you asked for more. Here is another one

You see how china is demolishing hundreds of churches because of their terrorist acts.



This one that you are searching for Christian's terrorist attacks like a needle inside the river., looking for them one by one on google....lol

Just read this brother
https://www.thereligionofpeace.com/attacks/attacks.aspx?Yr=Last30

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Foreign Affairs / Re: Naa'imur Zakariyah Rahman Jailed For Trying To Assassinate Theresa May by demmisab85: 7:26pm On Aug 31, 2018
drlateef:






Where is your evidence that they committed crimes in the name of Islam? So, anytime a Muslim commits crimes, it's in the name of Islam? If any criminal shouts Allahu Akbar, then it's in name of Islam? Who cannot shout that phrase Allahu Akbar. Even you can shout that while commiting crime so as to paint it as an Islamic terrorist. Drug addicts, criminals can shout that. It's easy to shout. Many criminals carrying fake Nigerian passports commit crimes abroad. Does that mean they are Nigerians? Even if they are Nigerian, does that mean all Nigerians are criminals or that they were commuting crime in the name of all Nigerians? What infantile thinking is that? As everywhere in the world, catholic priests are commiting pedophilia and sexual assaults on minors, shall we call all Catholics as paedophiles and sex pests? Think before you talk.


I wouldn't go far with you, what would you say of what happened in the last 2weeks in Saudi Arabia that sentence a 29years old woman to death to beheaded, The hindu woman in Indonesia that complained of noice of mosque call to prayer that was sentence to 18months in prison or the radical islamics protest in pakistan that a man in Holand wanted to unveil the image of Mohammed. Are all these islamic resistances in the name Hindu or jews ?
Just tell me.
Foreign Affairs / Re: Naa'imur Zakariyah Rahman Jailed For Trying To Assassinate Theresa May by demmisab85: 7:03pm On Aug 31, 2018
drlateef:




I think you have lost your senses. He is on his own. He does not represent Islam but himself alone. Many people with Christian names have been commiting atrocities since time immemorial, Christianity has not been called to account. There are numerous examples of you want me to mention. Presently in US, a lot of gun crimes are perpetrated by Christians, KKK believes that Bible teaches them to kill blacks. What about the Burundi massacres, the Lord Resistance Army, the Bible holding murderer in Norway, the criminal that killed a Muslim woman in court in presence of judge, he claimed to do in name of Jesus. I cannot stop naming them. In UK, a Christian killed MP Joe Cox because of her love for humanity, many Christians have been caught an BNP members and English Defence League. They were caught with bombs and other weapons and wanting to kill innocent Muslims. A Muslim surgeon was knifed in the neck last year in Manchester. The surgeon was among those who treated bomb victims in Manchester. The culprit was a Christian. He has just been sentenced to 5 years imprisonment. The surgeon forgave him. All the atrocities committed by Christians are not regarded as Christian terrorists. The media gives them a blackout. And the criminals are regarded as mentally deranged. No terrorism is mentioned. Over 3000catholic priests have been caught molesting children in Europe. Everywhere the Pope goes, he is greeted by protesters for child abuse by the Catholic clergy. A cardinal in America was well known for molesting children, even the current Pope was aware but he remained silent. The current Pope is being asked to resign on that basis, but Christianity is not being vilified. No media house in Nigeria even mentions that. What hypocrisy?

Come home to Nigeria, in Pain state, a pastor dressed like Boko Haram members and bombed his church during night vigil, hoping to implicate Boko Haram. In Benue state, some of the so called herdsmen are indigines of Venue and Christians. Many Boko Haram commanders caught were people of South East origin, of course they are Christians. They were paid to commit atrocities. In plateau state, many Muslim's travelling in bus were stopped and massacred by Christian Biroms who were avenging killings by herdsmen. But they killed innocent muslims. So many instances of churches being bombed by Christians in order to pain Muslims in bad name in the north. If press refuses to report them, if impostors go unpunished and unreported, there is God who is watching everyone and everything. The innocent shall be vindicated and the culprits punished by God either in this world or hereafter or both.

Dr lateef, i like your arguments even though most of its lack facts and basis. But do me a favour, read the list of killings and condemenation of people by Muslims in the name of islam just in 30days alone.

https://www.thereligionofpeace.com/attacks/attacks.aspx?Yr=Last30

Salaam.
Foreign Affairs / Re: Naa'imur Zakariyah Rahman Jailed For Trying To Assassinate Theresa May by demmisab85: 6:42pm On Aug 31, 2018
ollah2:


These are two Chrisitian terrorists,what do you have today say about this ?



You see, you always make refrences to the US in all your arguments as if US is sole Christianity or you think it has only been the US that has been the victim of tertor attack by radical muslims. The paged you screen short says 2011. But from 2011 till date you need to see the amount of terrors radical islamists uncleached in Europe alone, and don't talk about Indonesia as well and other parts of the world. That's why China is coming hard on muslims in her country demolishing hundreds of mosque. We are not enemies, you are not a terroist being a muslim but i believe we see things done by radical

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Foreign Affairs / Re: Naa'imur Zakariyah Rahman Jailed For Trying To Assassinate Theresa May by demmisab85: 6:33pm On Aug 31, 2018
ollah2:


These are two Chrisitian terrorists,what do you have today say about this ?



They are ordinary US citizens, Christians did not asked the court to jail them or killed them for attempeted murder on the president,. Non muslim won't tell you someone deserve to be imprison or death penalty for blasphy their religion, It could only be in ISLAM.
Foreign Affairs / Re: Naa'imur Zakariyah Rahman Jailed For Trying To Assassinate Theresa May by demmisab85: 5:49pm On Aug 31, 2018
The problem with Islam is that the good ones cannot restrain the bad ones and the bad ones feel they are a good representative of Mohammed.
Over the years some groups of Muslims feel the religion needs reformation to be able to cope with this 21st century.
Is not saying Islam as a religion is radical, but you have to come to the fact that Islam is not tolerant in anyway, despite the fact of its slogan for “peaceful religion"
Have had religion arguments with some couple of Muslims but their reactions and Constance are always unpleasant. An average Muslims might get upset if you question their faith, say something negative of the prophet Mohammed or you condemn the Quran.
In Islamic populated countries, its Islam first before Democracy, alots of things you could say or do that would amount to blasphemy in Islam.
This week alone a mass radical protest of Muslims in Pakistan just because someone in Europe wanted to unveil the picture of Mohammed. Get man got death threats and possible terror attack on his country.
Two weeks ago, a woman was sentence to 18months imprisonment just because she complained that a mosque should lower their speakers during call for prayers.
Last week Saudi Arabia gave a death penalty for a female human activist to be beheaded
If am not practicing your religion why must I be affected by your laws?
I think Muslims all over the world should look into this and make their religion tolerant to non-Muslims.

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Politics / Re: Osun 2018: Buhari, APC South West Stakeholders Meet In Aso Rock by demmisab85: 10:34pm On Aug 30, 2018
BuhariM:
I can bet my life that APC will win Osun State Election

Be mindful of what you bet your life on. This is out of your control and influence. Besides its just politics

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Politics / Re: Osun 2018: Buhari, APC South West Stakeholders Meet In Aso Rock by demmisab85: 10:33pm On Aug 30, 2018
Be mindful of what you bet your life on. This is out of your control and influence. Besides its just politics.

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Politics / Re: Adeosun’s alleged certificate forgery not a corruption matter – Presidency by demmisab85: 7:07pm On Aug 28, 2018
APC is the worst version of PDP.
It thrives on impunity, sentiment, deceit, witch hunting, tyranny, filled with radical members and supporters are are afraid of power sliding from them.
Honestly, i supported Buhari in 2015 hoping good things will come out, but its all crap government, and radical APC supporters won't accept that fact.

Bhuari himself is not a public speaking man, he has never done any press conference in addressing most national issues that are call for concerns. he prefers visiting backward arab nations, that was why he dragged Nigeria to Islamic organisation, most Arab nations are backward, they don't practise democracy, rather they believe in islamic laws... No wonder Trump called him "Lifeless"

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Foreign Affairs / Re: Califonia Hits $2.7T GDP And Overtakes Britain As Fifth Largest Economy by demmisab85: 9:26am On Aug 28, 2018
Yes, California has all the potentials to be in that position, all the famous US companies have their headquarters here in California, you can name them.
Apple, Facebook, Youtube, Twitter, HP, Dell, Tesla, Oracle, Google, Intel, Microsoft and many lots more, Los Angeles is the arena for Hollywood, San Francisco is High Tech City and the most ecpensive to live in the world. They have under water turnel train, everything is electrical here even public buses and some Cabs that's why is the number one future city. The most expensive city in the world. California is the most expensive state to live in US but has highest wages as well. That's why Nigerians are not so much in Cali unlike the East coast. I love it here in Cali especially. San Francisco Bay Area.

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Crime / Re: Two Nigerian Housemaids Killed By Their Bosses In Saudi Arabia. Photos by demmisab85: 9:17pm On Aug 26, 2018

Saudi is a very horrible country to leave. I wonder why Nigerians are still going there for survival.

Saudi Arabia, which has one of the highest execution rates in the world, a 29-year-old female activist accused of encouraging demonstrations was just sentence to death by beheading.

Most executions in Saudi Arabia are by beheading, a method used to kill 48 people over a four-month period this year.

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Politics / Re: In Sallah Message, Buhari Urges Nigerians To Embrace Peace & Rise Above Division by demmisab85: 10:00pm On Aug 20, 2018
The same message all the time. I tire oooo
And there has been no peace and there's great division in his in government.
Travel / Re: Wow! Newly Renovated Abuja Airport With Rooms For The Physically Challenged(pics by demmisab85: 6:05am On Aug 19, 2018
Good news though.
But Lagos International Airport is one of the busiest airports in Africa, ranking 5th. However, one of the worst airports in Africa ranking 5th as well, besides, FG makes more revenue in Lagos airport far than Abuja. Not much has been done about the airport in terms of good facilities, the uncompleted extension terminal project has been there for years now before the Abuja project was even awareded at all, still the project is going in very slow pace. FG should try to hasten up the completion of Lagos airport asap, beacuse more foreigners and flights come through Lagos airport than Abuja.

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Nairaland / General / Top 10 Most Read Books In The World : The Holy Bible Is The 1st by demmisab85: 5:55am On Aug 18, 2018
All of us love to read a good book, but could you name the 10 most read books in the world? Over the last half century hundreds of thousands of books have been produced, but only a select few have become the most read books in the world. Here you will discover some of the greatest pieces of literary work by highly talented authors.
The most read book in the world is the Bible.

Writer James Chapman created a list of the most read books in the world based on the number of copies each book sold over the last 50 years.

He found that the Bible far outsold any other book, with a whopping 3.9 billion copies sold over the last 50 years. "Quotations from the Works of Mao Tse-tung" came in second with 820 million copies sold, and "Harry Potter" came in third with 400 million copies sold.

Top 10 Most Read Books in The World
1) The Bible – 3.9 Billion Copies
2) Quotations from the Works of Mao Tse-tung – 820 Million Copies
3) Harry Potter – 400 Million Copies
4) Lord of the Rings – 103 Million Copies
5) The Alchemist – 65 Million Copies
6) The Da Vinci Code – 57 Million Copies
7) Twilight – The Saga – 43 Million Copies
cool Gone With the Wind – 33 Million Copies
9) Think and Grow Rich – 30 Million Copies
10) Diary of Anne Frank – 27 Million Copies

Crime / Re: Parmata Abdulkarim Misari Regains Freedom After Being Kidnapped. Photos by demmisab85: 1:51am On Aug 18, 2018
IbnAbdullah1:



Hahahahahahahah...
When people like think 'yes! I I have finally got him' he horribly forgets that if this is what the Qur'aan commands us to do without CONTEXTUAL UNDERSTANDING of these verses it means the world would have been in smoke a thousand year ago when Muslims had the authority to do so.

All those verse where revealed in different battles fought by Muslims against the Arab Idalotors and trangressior at different times.
There is what you call sabaab nuzool in understood. the Qur'aan which means the reason behind the revelation if a verse otherwise you make a mockery of yourself thinking that the Qur'aan commands u s to shed people's blood like blood thirsty carnivores.
Alla these were for reasons to war against oppressors hence the call for the Muslims to be brave and fight and not run away like cowards.


Am happy from all the bible verses you cited, you never mentioned any barbaric deeds by Jesus christ(who is the foundation of christainity) unlike Mohammed dirty and barbaric deeds. Mohammed himself aacknoledges Jesus christ but in a way to suits himself.
Talkin about which CONTECTUAL UNDERSTANDING of my earlier mentioned verses of your quran, and you forgot that mohammed was a warlord rather than claimed prophets, he fought battles, waged wars on innocent cities, took slaves, married peoples wives (Including his adopted son's), killed followers that are not loyal to him and the list continues.... it seems you forgot somethings about your Quran.
That the Quran has no narrative, No stories, Although many characters and events are 'borrowed' from the holy Bible, it's nothing like the Bible in literary style. The Quran is (allegedly) 100% revelations from Allah. It tells no story. It preaches. It's not even compiled in chronological order but, rather, longer suwar are arranged first, then shorter suwar (roughly speaking). How do you have a narrative without a coherent timeline? You must have read a version of the Quran I've never heard of before.
Much of the Quran needs to be cross-referenced with ahadith in order to understand its context and make sense of what you’re reading. I'll be dealing withCONTECTUAL UNDERSTANDING often-cited admonitions repeated frequently by apologists for Islam:

(Q2:190) Fight in the way of Allah those who fight you but do not transgress. Indeed. Allah does not like transgressors.
These admonitions are invoked by apologists to support the claim that, despite abundant evidence to the contrary, Islam is a religion of peace and tolerance.

Sura 9 (At-Tawbah) was revealed a year after Muhammad had taken control of Mecca. It starts off as a declaration of disassociation from those pagan Meccans who had not complied with the surrender treaty. The beginning ayat of this sura are actually about announcing and justifying the establishment of the first Islamic state (in the Hijaz region of Arabia). It covers everything -- from the prior violation of treaties, to admonishing Muhammad's followers not to fear the approaching violent conflict. Sura 9 was read to the Meccans in public places to inform them that they had only a little time to get their affairs in order and seek safe shelter outside the Hijaz. If they choose to stay, they would have to convert to Islam or else be attacked and killed (or imprisoned).

Quran (9:5) - "So when the sacred months have passed away, then slay the idolaters wherever you find them, and take them captive and besiege them and lie in wait for them in every ambush, then if they repent and keep up prayer and pay the poor-rate, leave their way free to them."

In this ayah, a revelation from Allah is clearly planning future attacks to take place after the end of a 4-month truce ('the sacred months'). This is not counseling self-defense in any way, shape, or form. Period. It's giving specific orders to kill recalcitrant pagans ('idolaters') wherever they are found and to ambush, assault and imprison them. To summarize this in one sentence: “Make sure to convert or kill any recalcitrant pagans but, if they've truly converted (‘keep up prayer and pay the poor-rate[zakat]’), then leave them alone.”

Quran (8:67) - "It is not for a Prophet that he should have prisoners of war until he had made a great slaughter in the land."

What can be said about that?!? It’s just plain barbaric.

Quran (8:12) - "I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them."

This revelation comes after Muhammad moved to Medina and was gaining power. Is this a man of peace and tolerance or is this a man bent on forced conversions – despite previous revelations (in Mecca) that claim there should be no coercion in religion?

Quran (8:39) - "And fight with them until there is no more fitna and religion should be only for Allah"

‘Fitna’ is disbelief. This is yet another ayah in which power has gone to Muhammad’s head and prior injunctions for self-defense and no coercion in religion go out the window.

Quran (5:33) - "The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and His messenger and strive to make mischief in the land is only this, that they should be murdered or crucified or their hands and their feet should be cut off on opposite sides or they should be imprisoned; this shall be as a disgrace for them in this world, and in the hereafter they shall have a grievous chastisement"

This comes from one of the last suwar in the Quran. Does this sound like a representative of God to you? Waging war against Allah and His messenger is NOT actual violence and attacks (as in a real war), it’s 'making mischief in the land': disrespecting Allah, Islam, the Quran and/or Muhammad. To this day, such disrespect is all the warrant needed for violent retaliation. Charlie Hebdo, anybody?

Quran (2:216) - "Fighting is prescribed for you, and ye dislike it. But it is possible that ye dislike a thing which is good for you, and that ye love a thing which is bad for you. But Allah knoweth, and ye know not."

Muhammad is trying to get his followers on board with his plan to raid caravans for camels and booty. The ‘back story’ here is that Muhammad and his followers were impoverished because the possessions they left behind, in Mecca, when they moved to Medina, were confiscated by the Meccans. You can see that the men are, at least initially, reticent to risk their lives (caravans were accompanied by armed fighters, for protection from robbers). Indeed, their first few attempts to raid caravans failed, probably because of their reticence.

From all the verses i cited for you with their CONTEXTUAL UNDERSTNDING which is the basis of your arguements, it shows Mohammed was not at war at those times. he waged wars and to gain other peoples cites and have followers and extaly what the barbaric fulani herdsmen are doing and Boko Haram and ISIS. raising black flags all over the middles east and some parts of Africa and recruiting teenergers and grown up people. Where does these islamist terrorist sects drawn their believes from? They are even more knowledgeable in quaranic than common muslims clerics in the world. I dont have problems with Muslims, I Just dislike Islam Ideology which has gotten into extremist muslims head.
For your Information i was once a muslim but not anymore, am now in the light..Salam Brother.

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Crime / Re: Parmata Abdulkarim Misari Regains Freedom After Being Kidnapped. Photos by demmisab85: 9:59pm On Aug 17, 2018
IbnAbdullah1:





“Let there be no compulsion in religion. Truth has been made clear from error. Whoever rejects false worship and believes in God has grasped the most trustworthy handhold that never breaks. And God hears and knows all things.” (Quran 2:256)
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(Q2:190) Fight in the way of Allah those who fight you but do not transgress. Indeed. Allah does not like transgressors.

Quran (8:39) - "And fight with them until there is no more fitna and religion should be only for Allah"

Quran (2:216) - "Fighting is prescribed for you, and ye dislike it. But it is possible that ye dislike a thing which is good for you, and that ye love a thing which is bad for you. But Allah knoweth, and ye know not."

Quran (9:29) - "Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued."

What would islam apologist like you say of this huge contradictions in your holy holy, its encourages more of compulsion.

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Crime / Re: Parmata Abdulkarim Misari Regains Freedom After Being Kidnapped. Photos by demmisab85: 9:14pm On Aug 17, 2018
ollah2:



It's jesus that instructed Bush to destroy Iraq
It's jesus that hihary clinton and her cohorts obeyed to create Al Qeada which turned ISIS to destroy Syria. You see your jesus loves blood so much hence these destruction. It's not new tho, ain't that same way he destroyed cities and countries in the bible



Mr problem with your dullard brain is that you are out of defense, all your points are off track and very flimsy. You are a potential terrorist against human race. I just laugh, you keep comparing America with Christianity. Can you see how dull you are ?
If you take America as a Christian country, then what would you say of muslims keep coming to the US and build mosque for worship. when saudi arabia won't tolerate a christian building in their country, i see alot of them here in the US living life they can't even dare in their so called Arab nations. Free is just wonderful. You need to go for rehab and enlightenment and free yourself from the york of warlord you serve or you remain Boko Haram and ISIS footsolider.

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Crime / Re: Parmata Abdulkarim Misari Regains Freedom After Being Kidnapped. Photos by demmisab85: 7:59pm On Aug 17, 2018
ollah2:



So the verses I attached aren't prove enough?
The previous images aren't enought too?

Keep deceiving yourself while wallowing in ignorance

Your understanding is so narrow, Islam apologist like yourself can't defend what i wrote earlier with full narrations (that is just a very small fraction of my knowledge of your shithole quran and useless hadiths). All you could do in selfless defence was to rambled and put an image from bible passages without narration. Anyway you are not in my league when It comes to religion arguments, Most of your so called dumb immans have rendered them speechless times without number. Foolish Wahalism doctrine believers.

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Crime / Re: Parmata Abdulkarim Misari Regains Freedom After Being Kidnapped. Photos by demmisab85: 6:54pm On Aug 17, 2018
ollah2:


shocked shocked really?

You see how Christian god is directing Chrisitians go destroy countries. He also instructed then to fund terrorist organisations like Al Qeada which turned into ISIS. You see that Christianity is a terrorist religion and organisation.

You might be interested to know the facts that your so called Holy book whic is quran is the most violent religious books in the world. And Islam itself is a violent religion of war from its inception even MOHAMMED himself gives Jihad notions on his dying bed.

(Q2:256) There shall be no compulsion in [acceptance of] the religion.
(Q2:190) Fight in the way of Allah those who fight you but do not transgress. Indeed. Allah does not like transgressors.

Quran (9:5) - "So when the sacred months have passed away, then slay the idolaters wherever you find them, and take them captive and besiege them and lie in wait for them in every ambush, then if they repent and keep up prayer and pay the poor-rate, leave their way free to them."
This murderous ayah is PROOF of Allah commanding conversion of pagans by the sword. It should be noted here that Meccans weren't fighting Muhammad: they were merely resisting his authority and/or violating the terms of a treaty: they weren't 'getting with the program', so to speak. Attacking and killing them directly violates the Quranic injunction against fighting except in self defense. And since the goal is to convert or kill pagans, it also violates the Quranic injunction against compulsion in religion. This is an example of abrogation: a later revelation contradicting earlier ones. In essence, the clear, perfect, immutable, inerrant Quran contradicts itself: Allah changed his omniscient mind.

Now, I ask you, which is more likely:

Allah, the perfect embodiment of truth, abrogated his own clear, perfect, immutable, inerrant Quran?
Muhammad, a mere mortal man, needed the doctrine of abrogation to excuse the contradictions that accompanied his transformation of the Hijaz into the world's first Islamic state? He transformed from a persecuted prophet into a persecuting warlord and need the revelation or abrogation () that fit his new circumstances.
Common sense tells us that Muhammad conjured 'revelations' as suited his needs and ascribed them to Allah. Even Aisha teased Muhammad about the convenient timing and content of his 'revelations':

I feel that your Lord hastens in fulfilling your wishes and desires.

The remaining citations are added for good measure. Check them out if you like.

Quran (8:67) - "It is not for a Prophet that he should have prisoners of war until he had made a great slaughter in the land."

What can be said about that?!? It’s just plain barbaric.

Quran (8:12) - "I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them."

This revelation comes after Muhammad moved to Medina and was gaining power. Is this a man of peace and tolerance or is this a man bent on forced conversions – despite previous revelations (in Mecca) that claim there should be no coercion in religion?

Quran (8:39) - "And fight with them until there is no more fitna and religion should be only for Allah"

‘Fitna’ is disbelief. This is yet another ayah in which power has gone to Muhammad’s head and prior injunctions for self-defense and no coercion in religion go out the window.

Quran (5:33) - "The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and His messenger and strive to make mischief in the land is only this, that they should be murdered or crucified or their hands and their feet should be cut off on opposite sides or they should be imprisoned; this shall be as a disgrace for them in this world, and in the hereafter they shall have a grievous chastisement"

This comes from one of the last suwar in the Quran. Does this sound like a representative of God to you? Waging war against Allah and His messenger is NOT actual violence and attacks (as in a real war), it’s 'making mischief in the land': disrespecting Allah, Islam, the Quran and/or Muhammad. To this day, such disrespect is all the warrant needed for violent retaliation. Charlie Hebdo, anybody?

Quran (2:216) - "Fighting is prescribed for you, and ye dislike it. But it is possible that ye dislike a thing which is good for you, and that ye love a thing which is bad for you. But Allah knoweth, and ye know not."

Muhammad is trying to get his followers on board with his plan to raid caravans for camels and booty. The ‘back story’ here is that Muhammad and his followers were impoverished because the possessions they left behind, in Mecca, when they moved to Medina, were confiscated by the Meccans. You can see that the men are, at least initially, reticent to risk their lives (caravans were accompanied by armed fighters, for protection from robbers). Indeed, their first few attempts to raid caravans failed, probably because of their reticence.

Also note that raiding caravans is an offensive, not defensive, operation . . . contrary to what the Quran preaches.

Quran (9:29) - "Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued."

This is one of the last revelations from Muhammad. Note that believers aren’t being told to fight in self defense. They’re being told to fight unbelievers because they don’t believe (are resisting Islam). Also notice that dhimma (which demands jizya tribute tax) had already been instituted by Muhammad

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Crime / Re: Parmata Abdulkarim Misari Regains Freedom After Being Kidnapped. Photos by demmisab85: 3:13pm On Aug 17, 2018
yusuf99:
look at this fool, pastor /idol worshipper what do you know about terrorism who are the terrorist? Israel, America, UK and France are the countries financing and supporting territories in the world. They attack Iraq because of their oil (hiding under the guise of recovering nuclear weapons) an nothing was found, then Afghanistan, Libya these are all Islamic country. What of Israel that kill dozen of Palestine everyday? I advised that even if you'll not accept Islam stop idol worship Because CHRISTIANITY=IDOL WORSHIP

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Crime / Re: Parmata Abdulkarim Misari Regains Freedom After Being Kidnapped. Photos by demmisab85: 2:48pm On Aug 17, 2018
yusuf99:
look at this fool, pastor /idol worshipper what do you know about terrorism who are the terrorist? Israel, America, UK and France are the countries financing and supporting territories in the world. They attack Iraq because of their oil (hiding under the guise of recovering nuclear weapons) an nothing was found, then Afghanistan, Libya these are all Islamic country. What of Israel that kill dozen of Palestine everyday? I advised that even if you'll not accept Islam stop idol worship Because CHRISTIANITY=IDOL WORSHIP

I know you are in serious pain right now with your reply which is very baseless.
Don't worry you shall get over it.

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Crime / Re: Parmata Abdulkarim Misari Regains Freedom After Being Kidnapped. Photos by demmisab85: 2:41pm On Aug 17, 2018
yusuf99:
Its a lie they just want paint Muslim black and draw sympathy and Thus tanish pmb govt's name. Thank god its not GEJ ERA by now CAN of worm would have persuaded jona to pump oil money to the attention seekers and their shrine. By now the pastor of that community would have dance and sing hallelujah

It's a lie that is a fake news, despites all the full info and details ?

It's a lie that the name of school is been mentioned with precise dates of events and the names of individual figures mentioned ?

It's a lie that we are just hearing this kind of barbaric news from Northern part of the country.?

Mind you, this happens all the time, have been in the north for 5 years and i can tell you what is it out there.
Don't dilute PMB with Islam issue.
I know you are Islamic apologist and PMB loyalist or a footsolider of both.

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Crime / Re: Parmata Abdulkarim Misari Regains Freedom After Being Kidnapped. Photos by demmisab85: 2:19pm On Aug 17, 2018
Am not suprised they are taking the footsteps of Mohammed their role model who also did the same, he married the wife (zainub) of his adtopted son, he married aishat at age 6 had sex with her at age 9, he took sex slaves, apostasy, a religion that spread with blood and sword and other barbaric deeds, he got fake revelations at all times just to suits his need at a particular sitiation, all those fake revelation claiming to got from so called allah for period of 24years he reigned as military warrior is now what the muslims called the Quran their holy book.
ISIS, BOKO HARAM and all Islamist tertoist are doing exctaly what Mohaamed did in the Quran and the so called Hadiths.
I blame the European Crusaders for not wiping out this barbaric ideology when they had the clear chance to do so. Now it's a plaque on the World.

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