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RomanceRe: My Mumu Younger Bro Use 5m To Open Business For A Girl by DemonSlayer: 2:29pm On Apr 23, 2025
I'm more interested in how he made the 5M? Did he sell an ancestral land, was the money inherited? I wonder how idiots make money wallahi, I'm genuinely curious.
RomanceRe: My Late Girlfriend Still Visits Me And I'm Losing My Mind by DemonSlayer: 2:06pm On Apr 23, 2025
Your girlfriend sounds like she was a helpful person while alive. May her soul rest in peace.

Someone is cleaning your house and doing your laundry free of charge and you're disturbed? I’d be thankful. I don’t believe in ghosts, but if they were real and some were friendly, I wouldn't worry about their activities—especially if they were benefiting me.
PoliticsRe: The Flawed Logic Of Targeting Dreadlocks In The Name Of Security by DemonSlayer: 1:54pm On Apr 23, 2025
This is unconstitutional. I wish someone can bait and sue this governor to teach him a lesson.
CrimeRe: Police Arrests 40-year Old Woman Over Rape Of 12-year Old Pupil In Bauchi by DemonSlayer: 1:45pm On Apr 23, 2025
Sunshine34:
Many guys pay for this, imagine on a platter of gold and you go report grin angry grin angry
Do you realize this thread is about the molestation of a 12 year old boy?
CultureRe: Nigerian Traditional Weddings Are Culture, Not Themes For Foreigners (Opinion) by DemonSlayer: 1:41pm On Apr 23, 2025
Rest. Sit your goddamn ass down. All this wokeys will not allow us rest.
CrimeRe: 4 Cyber Fraudsters, Including A Nigerian, Arrested In India For Bank Money Theft by DemonSlayer: 1:37pm On Apr 23, 2025
Beerfraud

Precious why are you doing this? I'm genuinely curious.
Foreign AffairsRe: Countries With The Highest IQ Levels In 2025 (photos) by DemonSlayer: 5:57pm On Apr 22, 2025
Where's Nigeria? Lies!!
FamilyRe: Why I Want To Separate From My Wife by DemonSlayer: 1:56pm On Apr 22, 2025
CodeTemplarr:
Hmmm. We need to develop a marriage video game and have couples play for days at a time to test waters and solidify their perspective.
Let's work on this idea bro! Totally down for it!
FamilyRe: Why I Want To Separate From My Wife by DemonSlayer: 1:44pm On Apr 22, 2025
busariabeyx24:
Why I Want to Separate from My Wife

Our relationship has become emotionally unsustainable for me, and after long periods of silence, inner conflict, and attempts to make things work, I have come to the difficult conclusion that separation is the healthiest path forward—for both of us. There are several deeply rooted issues that have contributed to this decision, and I believe it’s important to lay them out clearly.

1. Lack of Intimacy and Weaponization of Sex
Intimacy has all but vanished in our relationship. What’s more painful is that she uses sex as a tool—to control, punish, or manipulate. This has left me feeling undesired, unwanted, and emotionally abandoned. Intimacy is not just physical, it's also about connection, vulnerability, and shared closeness—and we have none of that left.

2. Emotional Abandonment and Loneliness
While she often chooses to go out and spend hours with her friends, I’m left alone in the house, feeling isolated and neglected. Even when we’re in the same space, we’re disconnected. Her priorities have shifted away from our relationship and family, and I feel like a ghost in my own home.

3. Neglect of Parental Responsibilities
Despite being a trained teacher, she makes no effort to support the children academically. Their homework, school needs, and learning challenges fall entirely on me, even though I’m also the primary provider. It hurts to watch our children miss out on guidance that she’s perfectly capable of giving.

4. Communication Breakdown
We barely talk. When we do, it's either transactional or tense. There's no emotional sharing, no joint planning, no meaningful conversation. We exist like two strangers under the same roof.

5. Disregard for My Input and Support
Time and again, I’ve offered her advice that could have helped her avoid unnecessary stress or mistakes, but she disregards me—only to later face the exact consequences I warned about. It feels like my voice has no value in her life.

6. Encouraging Poor Habits in the Kids
She not only neglects the kids’ school work, but she also encourages them to go to the next neighborhood to play or hang out—at times when they should be studying or resting. It undermines my efforts to instill discipline and focus in our children.

7. Lack of Respect for My Hustle
She shows no interest or concern in how I make money, the pressure I’m under, or the sacrifices I make to keep the family going. There’s no appreciation, no empathy, just entitlement and expectation. I feel invisible, like a machine that’s supposed to produce without rest or recognition.

8. Misplaced Priorities
Her life seems to revolve around eating, watching TV, and spending hours gossiping with friends. There’s little to no effort toward improving our household, our relationship, or our children’s future. That kind of passivity is damaging, not just for our marriage but for our family as a whole.

9. Manipulation by Friends
She allows her so-called friends to influence how she treats me, even to the point of disrespect. Rather than defending or standing by me as a partner, she lets their words shape her actions against me. This betrayal by proxy is incredibly painful.

10. Ongoing Emotional Disregard
As I write this, she has been outside gossiping with a friend for over three hours—leaving me inside, emotionally abandoned once again. This isn’t an isolated event; it’s a pattern. I’ve begged for her time, attention, and partnership, but she chooses others over and over again.
Thanks for sharing.

How did it get here? Were there telltale signs from the beginning? It'll be very insightful for some of us.
Foreign AffairsRe: Trump's Homeland Secretary, Kristi Noem’s Purse Stolen In DC by DemonSlayer: 8:15am On Apr 22, 2025
Why is she holding the rifle like that? Trying to look tough but ended up looking like a doll posing.
TravelRe: Truck's Brakes Fail, Kills 5, Injures Others During Easter Celebration In Gombe by DemonSlayer: 8:12am On Apr 22, 2025
Parrot69:
I thought Gombe is a Muslim state? shocked
Announcing ignorance is unnecessary in this day and age. You thought? What do you think now?
TravelRe: Truck's Brakes Fail, Kills 5, Injures Others During Easter Celebration In Gombe by DemonSlayer: 8:11am On Apr 22, 2025
This is becoming routine. Just 4 months ago, the same thing happened during Christmas celebration in the same state—a vehicle carrying grains ploughed into a Christian rally. Can't they even change the format?

RIP to the deceased and quick recovery to the injured..
Christianity EtcRe: Pope Francis Is Dead - Vatican by DemonSlayer: 9:05am On Apr 21, 2025
RIP
PoliticsRe: China Turns To Nigeria, Other Emerging Economies As US Markets Freeze by DemonSlayer:
This is risky fa.

We already import more goods from China than from any other country in the world. We import about 9 to 10 times the value of what we export to China. Our trade relationship is lopsided. Which is the exact situation that has exacerbated the recent US-China trade war in the first place, trade deficit—US importing more than it exports to China. With the US market freezing for China and the increased attention Nigeria will continue to receive from China, our own trade deficit with them is likely to grow exponentially now. Their goal would be to close the $500B gap the American market has created, and to do so they'll try to max out their trade with all other partners. Maybe they'll aim to double the $20B they've with us in the next few years, we being a country of 200M people. More industries and businesses that previously had the US as their main market will turn look for alternatives.

Our local industries in the same market are unlikely to be able to compete favorably with their Chinese counterparts due to higher manufacturing costs here. What will happen is that the markets will become even more saturated with Chinese products, outpacing local competition and eventually pushing them out. With that, we return to the age of importing everything from China — including toothpicks and pencils (if we’re not still there already). Factories shut down, people lose jobs, unemployment spikes, followed by all the economic implications that come with it.

Will our government protect us like the US is trying to protect local production? Unlikely. China will offer more loans, which creates more resources for our theifing leadership to steal, so nobody will complain.
Christianity EtcRe: Did Jesus Really Have To Die Tho? by DemonSlayer(op): 10:08pm On Apr 19, 2025
Kobojunkie:
1. Nope!

2. Again, the answer is an emphatic No! Jesus Christ of Israel's claim, as recorded in Israelites-only Scripture, is that only individuals born from their mother's womb of the bloodline of Jacob require this supposed atonement of sins and could help obtain it by way of the Covenant, which is the Kingdom of God. The same Jesus Christ of Israel went to state that those who were not born of that bloodline had no capacity to handle that which is Holy... His Covenant.. and hence warned His followers to avoid them where it concerns the details of the Covenant. This all directly conflicts with the religious narratives, all of which mostly insist that all humans require atonement and all qualify for Jesus Christ of Israel's death. undecided
Hmmm, this is deep oo. Which one is Israelites-only Scripture? Do you mean the Old Testament or something else? I'm familiar with Jesus' mission to the House of Israel, but I'm also aware that he didn't strictly limit his ministry to this group. He was hanging out with all sorts of people to the point where the Pharisees were accusing him of associating with the gentiles. I actually have a problem with this notion of God playing favourites. I feel it's Jewish propaganda.


3. thinking emoticon ➜🤔
Good thing I asked! I thought it's an exasperated, condescending sigh, like "just I can't with these deluded morons, high on their religious gobbledegook!" grin Thinking is good.

4. The existence of mainstream Christianity in Nigeria is a perception, though not a reality. You only need to directly interact with some of the members from the many different Christian organizations to realize that they do not consider themselves the same. The competition between the various sects is palpable in some communities. Within the same organization/denomination(complete overarching interpretation of scriptures), you are bound to find several other mini-denominations with their own additional ideas regarding the core interpretations fed to them from the religion's overlord higher up on the organizational hierarchy. RCCG and Deeper Life are two particular organizations/denominations that I am aware operate in this manner. Mainstream Christianity does not exist in Nigeria as far as I know. undecided
You're right to a very large extent. I've actually lived that experience since I've done a fair amount of exploring different denominations. I still maintain that while there's a lot of disagreement about several fringe doctrines, for the most part, the majority of denominations in Nigeria, at the most fundamental level, agree that Jesus died to grant believers eternal life.

4. It sounds extreme, but if you reason it clearly, you will find it isn't.
⚉ Can a book written in plaintext — not alien language or by aliens — really have over 46,000 different interpretations?
⚉ Does any book written by human authors in human language for the direct consumption of humans, no formal education required, require interpreting?
⚉ If the contextual content of a book— author's message — points to logic A, but the reader's particular forced interpretation points away from logic A, do we conclude that the author was wrong and the reader is instead correct? undecided
Very solid points, I've grappled with these myself but 99% gobbledegook is still too wild! While they've evolved over time, the abrahimic religions share the same root, the Israelite Scripture.

The God of the Book took on the title God of Israel alone, declaring Israel His only inheritance in the land of men — Humans. Jesus Christ of Israel came declaring His Father, YHWH, God of Israel, sent Him only to the Lost Sheep of Israel(He never went on this declaration). All of the prophets of Israel before and after Jesus Christ of Israel were Israelites. But somehow Religion of Christianity(Islam as well) would have us believe that right after the Roman war against the Jews which lead to complete decimation of Jerusalem, the exile of the Jewish Population from much of the Roman Empire, and the destruction of the nation of Judah by the Romans during the first Century AD, the Romans — non-Israelites — took over the reigns and became the chosen people of this very same God of Israel and His Son, Jesus Christ of Israel. huh
5. Pointing out the bullsheet that is the religion of Christianity(Islam included). grin[/quote]If Christianity, Islam, etc are full of it (BS), what's the alternative?
Christianity EtcRe: Did Jesus Really Have To Die Tho? by DemonSlayer(op): 9:40pm On Apr 19, 2025
Truthseeker10:
In the above scriptures that you've quote
1)what part of human burn in hell fire?
2)where will people burn forever, hell fire or lake of fire?
What do you mean what part?

Hell fire? Lake of fire? What's the difference, why are we splitting hairs? Fire na fire.
Christianity EtcRe: Did Jesus Really Have To Die Tho? by DemonSlayer(op): 9:01pm On Apr 19, 2025
Truthseeker10:
Does the Bible teach that God will burn people forever in Hell?
Matthew 13
49 So shall it be at the end of the world: the angels shall come forth, and sever the wicked from among the just,

50 And shall cast them into the furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth.
Matthew 25
31 When the Son of man shall come in his glory, and all the holy angels with him, then shall he sit upon the throne of his glory:

32 And before him shall be gathered all nations: and he shall separate them one from another, as a shepherd divideth his sheep from the goats:

33 And he shall set the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on the left.

34 Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand, Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world:

41 Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:
Mark 9:43
And if thy hand offend thee, cut it off: it is better for thee to enter into life maimed, than having two hands to go into hell, into the fire that never shall be quenched:
Revelation 20:15
And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.
Christianity EtcRe: Did Jesus Really Have To Die Tho? by DemonSlayer(op): 8:56pm On Apr 19, 2025
Thankgod89:
You're right, it wasn’t murder or theft in the usual sense. It was disobedience. But not just breaking a random rule, it was a rupture in relationship. God gave humans everything, life, freedom, purpose, joy and one boundary to honor His authority and trust. Eating the fruit wasn’t about snacking; it was about saying, “I want to decide what’s right and wrong without You.” It was a declaration of independence from the very Source of life.

The consequence of separating from God isn’t just punishment, it’s death, because God is life. If I unplug a lamp, it doesn’t get punished—it just goes dark. Sin is unplugging from the Source, and darkness naturally follows. It’s not about God being offended over a technicality. It’s about the human race stepping out of harmony with the Creator and everything else unraveling from there.

Could God have just forgiven them? Absolutely. But forgiveness, even for God, isn’t ignoring the reality of damage. True forgiveness costs something emotionally, relationally, even spiritually. And that cost is what Jesus eventually bore. But even in the garden, God didn’t sever ties. He went looking for them. He clothed them. He promised a future Redeemer (Genesis 3:15). Discipline came, yes but not abandonment. It was a fracture, not a final goodbye.

Now about the analogy of parenting, it’s a good one. We don’t disown toddlers for breaking plates, true. But we do teach them that choices have consequences. And if that child one day grows up and says, “I don’t want your rules, your values, or your love, I’ll live how I want,” that’s not just a broken plate. That’s a broken relationship. That’s the tragedy of sin and it’s not that God won’t forgive, it’s that people can choose to reject Him.

I believe in the Holy Bible, guided by the help of the Holy Spirit. I don’t compare my faith with Islam or any other belief system. Someone once asked you question from Hebrews 11:3:
“Through faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God, so that things which are seen were not made of things which do appear.”

From there, the conversation just kept unfolding…

Christianity isn’t filled with heavy doctrines, the message is actually clear. The problem isn’t with the faith, but with how it’s often misunderstood. As Jesus said in John 5:39:
“Search the Scriptures; for in them you think you have eternal life: and they are they which testify of Me.”
The heart of it all is Christ. If you truly seek Him through the Word, the message becomes clearer.
Makes sense. Thanks for sharing.
Christianity EtcRe: Did Jesus Really Have To Die Tho? by DemonSlayer(op): 8:43pm On Apr 19, 2025
Kobojunkie:
1. The bulk of what you claim and seem to believe comes not from The Bible but from the many doctrines compiled by the religion of Christianity, a religion whose only connection is. That is what I have been trying to get you to see here. Yes, there was a man called Jesus Christ who happened to be an Israelite(of the Jewish subset), but everything else you claimed in your OP and insist on after that is not biblical but sourced from the various interpretations that belong instead to the religion of Christianity — religious gobbledegook. undecided
It's much clearer now, thanks. I'm curious, what's the extent of the Bible that you consider "biblical"—pure, unadulterated Scripture? Aren't the so-called "religious gobbledegook" (funny choice of words there grin grin ) derived from scriptures? In this case, the atonement of sin through the death of Jesus.

2. Yes! undecided
Noted! What does " undecided " mean?

3. The framework of the Christian faith is the same as arguing from a religious standpoint. This is because the doctrines that comprise the religion of Christianity— its over 46000 different denominations/interpretations included— are 99.99999% removed from the actual content of the Bible —Israelite Scripture. Many of the ideas spewed so far by those who argue from within the religion have nothing to do with the original messages intended by the authors of the individual books, let alone the YHWH of Israel or Jesus Christ of Israel, His Son. undecided
Noting the incredibly diverse interpretations and the myriads of denominations is a very good point, Kobo! Thanks for pointing that out. I probably took that for granted because it seems in Nigeria, there's a mainstream Christianity that agrees on some key doctrines, including the one we're exploring in this thread.

I'm curious, though, how did you arrive at the 99.99999% deviation of "religious gobbledegook" from the Bible? I get your point, but that's an extreme exaggeration to the point of being unreasonable.

Lastly, what stance are you arguing from; does it have a name?
Christianity EtcRe: Did Jesus Really Have To Die Tho? by DemonSlayer(op): 8:18pm On Apr 19, 2025
Truthseeker10:
Who do you think should determine what Justice is?
Who should?
Christianity EtcRe: Did Jesus Really Have To Die Tho? by DemonSlayer(op): 8:15pm On Apr 19, 2025
Truthseeker10:
But don't you think that you are trying to define Justice based on your own viewpoint instead of the viewpoint of the creator? Do you really think that you have the right to determine what Justice is?
Sorry, I’ll be a true Nigerian here and answer your questions with more questions—so pardon me.

Where did justice originate from? Does it have multiple “flavours”? Can we say some flavours are better suited for different situations? What exactly is Divine justice? Do different religions define its specifics differently? Who’s right, who’s wrong—and who gets to decide?
Christianity EtcRe: Did Jesus Really Have To Die Tho? by DemonSlayer(op): 8:07pm On Apr 19, 2025
Truthseeker10:
So why did you come up with that analogy as the best thing that he could have done after the disobedience?
Check above. I've updated.
Christianity EtcRe: Did Jesus Really Have To Die Tho? by DemonSlayer(op): 8:05pm On Apr 19, 2025
Truthseeker10:
Why should God even punish them at all for disobeying him according to your Analogy above? Could he not forgive them without the drama that you wrote above?
He could, and it'll still make more sense than crucifying Jesus. That's essentially what I'm saying. God can forgive without killing anyone or anything. The timeout I added was so someone won't complain that they got away with disobedience without a deterrent for future offence.
Christianity EtcRe: Did Jesus Really Have To Die Tho? by DemonSlayer(op): 8:03pm On Apr 19, 2025
Kobojunkie:
1. But none of what you stated in your OP connects back to what is in fact written in any of the books contained in the compendium called The Bible. And yes, I don't believe the religious delusion that is faith is a prerequisite for understanding, but going around spewing religious rhetoric— gobbledegook— does not equally amount to having understanding of the actual content of the book.

2. Reason can only exist where there is understanding. And the ability to reason is one thing religion, or at least subscribing to religious delusions, gradually deprives one of. If your understanding amounts to the same gobbledegook spewed by the religious(they first need their faith delusion to comprehend what is written in the book), then what makes you think your grasp of reason is different or better then theirs? undecided
I'm not sure you fully understand the angle I'm coming from, so maybe we should take a step back to broaden the context we're speaking from—just to understand each other better.

First off, I'm trying to understand the format of your replies. I'm assuming the numbered comments are meant to address the arrowed points in the quote in a top-to-bottom fashion. Please confirm if that’s the case, because it feels like some of the responses don’t quite align with the corresponding points.

Secondly, just to summarize my OP: I’m essentially expressing my issue with the idea of the necessity of Jesus’ crucifixion to atone for sin. Even though I do so within the framework of the Christian faith, I’m not personally coming from a religious standpoint, but rather assessing the doctrine itself, respectfully—that's what I'm aiming for, at least.
Christianity EtcRe: Did Jesus Really Have To Die Tho? by DemonSlayer(op): 7:39pm On Apr 19, 2025
Thankgod89:
Let me share a perspective,not to argue but to offer another lens:

You’re absolutely right in saying that God is the source of justice, love, and mercy. These aren’t qualities He’s subject to; they flow from His very nature. But that’s exactly why they can’t be compromised or played against each other. Love without justice ignores real harm. Justice without love crushes the guilty. The cross is not God at war with Himself—it’s God expressing the full depth of both justice and love, simultaneously.

Your analogy about slaughtering your own child to forgive someone is powerful, but I think it’s missing something key: Jesus wasn’t just an innocent third party. In my belief and according to the scripture (John 1:14 - "And the Word was made flesh",) Jesus is God in the flesh. He wasn’t a victim caught in the middle—He was the one choosing to step in. That changes the entire picture. It’s more like a judge stepping down from the bench to serve the sentence on behalf of the guilty. It’s radical, yes but not senseless. It’s not God needing blood to calm Himself, it’s God absorbing the cost of justice Himself, so that mercy can be real and still be righteous.

You brought up restorative justice, and I love that. That’s actually what the cross is aiming at not just pardon, but transformation. In Christ, sin isn’t just excused, it’s dealt with. Evil is named, exposed, and broken. And we’re invited not just to be forgiven, but to be made new.

As for original sin, that’s a heavy doctrine. But it’s not about God punishing people for something they didn’t do; it’s about acknowledging that we’re born into a broken system. We all experience and contribute to a world shaped by generations of pride, injustice, and pain. The doctrine says, “This is not how things were meant to be.” And the good news is that God doesn’t leave us in it. Through Christ, He offers a new start, a new nature, and a new family.

Finally, your question about the “wages of sin is death” is fair. But it’s not about God punishing every offense with equal fury, it’s about separation from the source of life. Sin, by nature, disconnects us from God. [/b]And death is just the name for that disconnect. But the story doesn’t end there. “[b]The wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord” (Romans 6:23).
Cool stuff, especially the last paragraph.

I get that wrongdoing has consequences and often causes harm that demands restitution. But here’s the thing: from the very beginning of the story, the so-called “Original Sin” was disobedience. People ate a fruit they were forbidden to eat. They didn’t kill anyone—not even an animal. They didn’t lie to put anyone in danger. They didn’t commit theft or arson. They literally did not harm a soul in any physical sense. The punishment? Death.

My understanding of what you said is that justice is needed to account for harm done. So, who exactly did they harm? God? Can God be harmed? Themselves? So they needed to be k!lled (spiritually) for harming themselves? That’s justice?

Consider this alternative narrative: God strolls in during the evening and discovers (even though He already knew before He even created them) what the humans have done. He calls them out, does a bit of a shakedown to help them understand the seriousness of disobedience. He gives them a chance to say sorry—they do. Then He says, “You know what? I forgive you, but I’m still going to punish you so the lesson sinks in. You’re grounded for a month. No tending to the garden, no playing with cheetahs and hyenas, no roaming. You’ll stay around the Tree of Life for a month to reflect on what you’ve done.” The humans and their Maker are reconciled. They serve their punishment and learn their lesson.

We don’t kick our toddlers out of the house for breaking a plate. Why should the very Embodiment of Love sever ties with His most precious creations over a first-time offense—when “I forgive you; go and sin no more” could have been sufficient?

Christianity is filled with heavy doctrines. Frankly, some of it feels very convoluted, so much acrobatics to make things comprehensive. I appreciate how Islam doesn't need all that; Original Sin, Crucifixion, etc, as far as justice, mercy and salvation goes.
Christianity EtcRe: Did Jesus Really Have To Die Tho? by DemonSlayer(op): 7:02pm On Apr 19, 2025
Kobojunkie:
1. All those are false tales fed to you by your religious overlords. None of that is found anywhere in the book of Israelite Scriptures, which you pretend to quote. undecided
Please enlighten me. Which is this "book of Israelite Scriptures"? I'm not sure I'm familiar with this book, not to mention pretending to quote it. Also, who are these "religious overlords"?

2. Would you rather He, Jesus Christ of Israel, lived forever? huh
I'd rather he lived a full life and died in peace of old age. I wish he had written a book or a couple of them to pass on his own ideas directly, rather than all the hearsay accounts we have.

3. Nonsense! Easter is a pagan holiday for people to relax, and maybe hang out with friends and family. It has absolutely nothing to do with the person of Jesus Christ of Israel as it has no direct or indirect connection to him except for the ideas fed you by your religious overlords. undecided
I get you, and I actually tend to agree about the origin of Easter. For whatever historical reasons, it has come to have a strong connection with Jesus for the majority of people who celebrate it, and I speak from this context.
Christianity EtcRe: Did Jesus Really Have To Die Tho? by DemonSlayer(op): 6:48pm On Apr 19, 2025
MightySparrow:
You once had faith but now an apostate, what really is your point?

Heb.11.3 - Through faith we understand that ..........

You must have faith to understand or any other reasonable thinking is useless here.
I get you, even if I don't agree that faith is a prerequisite for understanding. There are many books and many stories, we have the freedom to disagree with the ideas they present, it's often never enough to quote one book to shut up dissenting views.

If guess it’s easier to use reason to dismantle the flaws in other points of view, but when it comes to our own, faith tends to step in as a shield for the incomprehensible. In fact, through faith, you can believe anything—often at the expense of reason—leaving room for gullibility to take root.
Christianity EtcRe: Did Jesus Really Have To Die Tho? by DemonSlayer(op): 6:32pm On Apr 19, 2025
Thankgod89:
The cross isn’t about God’s inability to forgive—it’s about the fullness of His justice and love meeting in one powerful moment. If God simply wiped away humanity’s sin without addressing the real weight of evil, He would be a merciful God, but not a just one. On the other hand, if He chose to prove His justice without showing compassion, He would be just, but not loving. The cross is where both justice and love collide perfectly—where God says, “I love you enough to take the hit Myself.
John 3:16 - For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
I get what you’re trying to say, and I understand that for many people, the cross represents something deeply meaningful, I'm not trying to be offensive, please don't be offended. But honestly, I think it still doesn’t hold up when you zoom out.

So the cross is supposed to be where God's justice and love meet—but why do they even have to be in conflict in the first place? Why would God need to “satisfy” His own justice to Himself? If you wronged me, and instead of forgiving you or talking it through, I slaughtered my own child to make peace with you, I’d be deemed psychotic. But when God does it, it’s somehow considered beautiful? Other religions, e.g Islam, embrace a God who is merciful and just—without contradiction. It makes more sense.

God is the creator of all things—including love, mercy, and justice. These qualities flow from Him. If He needs blood to forgive disobedience, that’s not justice—it’s a choice. And a disturbing one at that. Imagine your child breaks a rule you created (one you knew they’d break), and for justice to be “satisfied,” someone needs to die. But because you love her, you kill yourself instead to appease your own standard of justice. Be honest—doesn’t that sound absurd?

The idea that “sin must be paid for” paints a picture of a God who is bound by a system of rules, rather than One who defines them. Why not choose restorative justice instead of punitive justice? To err is human, to forgive is divine, no?

And what about “the wages of sin is death”? Imagine if every citizen who broke a traffic law was sentenced to death by hanging—right alongside those guilty of r@pe or murd€r. A single, unbending punishment, regardless of the offense. That’s not justice—that’s tyranny.

And let’s not even get started on the idea of original sin—the notion that guilt is inherited, that we are born deserving punishment for something we didn’t do. What kind of justice system is that?
Christianity EtcDid Jesus Really Have To Die Tho? by DemonSlayer(op): 8:43am On Apr 19, 2025
I realize, as with every other comment that questions faith, this thread might rub some people the wrong way. But I remember this being an issue that undermined my faith when I still had it. Do you realize that God can forgive whoever He wants, whenever He wants, without needing to slaughter goats or crucify anyone—and it would be totally fine? He could simply delete the entire record of sins, and no one could say sh!t about it. Like, delete the database and completely format the hard drive—and that move would still be completely valid.

If Stephen could forgive his stoners, God can forgive Satan. And not even the vilest sin—not even Hitler’s genocide—is deserving of eternal suffering. A couple million lifetimes, maybe—one for each soul lost—but an eternity? That’s too extreme for any sin that could possibly be committed.

And don’t even get me started on the idea of a genuinely good person—someone who actually puts in the effort to be decent and live right—burning in hell forever simply for not believing the right story. That will never make sense to me.

All said, I really like Jesus, I think he was a cool fella and I absolutely dig his vibe and it's just sad that he was murdered by the state out of jealousy of a handful of religious leaders. I think the main Easter message is for people to interrogate the influence of authority, particularly religious authority.
CrimeRe: Priestess, Worshippers Abducted By Gunmen While Performing Rituals In Enugu by DemonSlayer: 8:24am On Apr 19, 2025
grin grin grin grin grin

I'm not supposed to laugh but this is hilarious AF! In a way it wouldn't be if it were a Pastor or Imam and their congregation. Probably because as a culture we've ascribe a sort of potency to traditional religion that it really doesn't have.

I pray for their well-being and safe return.
PoliticsRe: Chinese Seen Giving Policemen Money In Viral Video Apologises, Denies Bribe by DemonSlayer: 6:22am On Apr 18, 2025
Can anyone who understands Chinese confirm the translation? I don't trust this people one bit. The werey said they didn't know it was against the culture in Nigeria, as if it was going to look alright in China or anywhere else.

That said, Nigerians have been able to pass the right message this time. You can't come and gather a whole battalion of olokpa and make a video of gleefully dashing them 5k.

I kinda enjoy the pressure Nigerians can apply as "netizens".

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