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Ukraine F-16 destroyed during Russian attack, BBC told

One of the F-16 fighter jets sent from Nato allies to Ukraine has been destroyed, a Ukrainian military source has told the BBC.

The aircraft went down amid a barrage of Russian missiles on Monday, killing pilot Oleksiy Mes, Ukraine's military said. It marks the first loss of its kind since the planes were delivered earlier this month.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cd0532n9pdko

Kingsnairaland:
No man that can not break under torture even Samson broke

Who wants to torture him? Is he a criminal?

WritterNg:
⚡Few years ago, when Russian intelligence asked Pavel Durov for Telegram's encryption keys, he sent this letter along with a pair of metal keys.

Now, the smartass is going to hand over the real encryption keys of the social media app to the CIA, NSA, Mossad and NATO spy agencies.

E b lyk say una no know Pavel he won't hand over shishi.

Ska333ko:
🇫🇷⚡️- BREAKING: Pavel Durov, the founder and CEO of Telegram, has been arrested in France.

They should leave our Pavel alone. He is doing a good job.

This couple finished Trump

FoolishBoy419:
Let's be honest. Morally, this is wrong. But I would do the same if I were a Palestinian. This is nothing compared to the terrorism they've been facing at the hands of this genocidal state.

There is nothing morally wrong when it comes to paying back Israel. Israel has done worse. This is no where near what Israel had been doing from day 1.

Kremlingrad:
The so called invisible mother Russia is not that invisible anyway
Instead of waiting to die, why not launch out and die trying. Ukraine have scored a point that
Mother Russia is just a bully and a weakling.
Russia may eventually win but
Ukraine have given them a scare for life.

The werey go soon they threatened nuclear weapon, any small attack like this
Werey Putin go dey threaten nuclear weapon like say, na only am get am.
UKRAINE DON PROVE SAY NEEDLE SMALL BUT IF THE SMALL NEEDLE SHOOK YOU
You go see blood.

© gigabyte13

If the invasion of Kursk is about scoring a point for Ukraine in Zelensky's mind and his dull supporters then they are all clowns together. How on earth do you think you can occupy a country as big as Russia even the almighty Nazi Germany with 3 millions troops failed. For whatever reason he tried this he should be called a clown for it but I know the West pushed him into doing this that should tell you the West itself is confused and has no concrete strategy as to how to stab Russia in the heart.

I can't even call it an invasion it should be termed a suicide. Ukraine committed suicide by invading Kursk. Scoring points at this stage of the war while Russia keeps grabbing land. From the beginning of the war it has always been about scoring points for Zelensky and then come to the media and start bragging. How has his points helped the cause of the war? Zelensky is a clown for real.

Why are some ignoramuses mentioning Jews here? Religion has destroyed some people's thinking.

When it comes to tech advancement during WW1 & 2 give it to the Germans. From their highly tech advanced tanks to the U-Boats that they used to menace the Atlantic sinking many allied ships. They built the first cruise missile known as the V1 and the first ballistic missile in history the V2. They built the first and only rocket powered fighter jet in history also known as Messerschmitt Me 163. A British fighter pilot narrated his experience after the war about these German Wunderwaffe, he said he had never seen any thing like that in his life that the way the jet ooze past his plane was so fast and no allied plane could even caught up with such speed.

There was a special U-boat, U-2511 that Nazi Germany built in 1944 but it was late already. Military historians keep saying if Germany had built the Messerschmitt fighter jet and the U-boat U-2511 early Germany would have won world war 2 cause these were weapons the allied countries can not match if they were deployed.

What about the military ship Bismarck and her sister ship Tirpitz. Let me stop here. During WW2 Germany built many weapons and megastructures that were way ahead of their time. US and USSR were rushing to get hold of German scientists and their research papers during the last days of the war. They were running to reach Kaiser Wilhelm Institute cause they believed it has many scientific papers that could help them.

WrriterNg:
⚡New Zealand's justice minister signs order to extradite Kim Dotcom to the United States — Guardian

WTF

Zelensky is happy for his recent "Operation Barbarossa" stunt . Hitler tried it and failed. This guy just keeps allowing the West to push him harder.

dvkot:
You are 100% right i think putin miscalculated on how far the west is willing to go, so he played too careful.

You are right president Putin never knew the west would go this far. Anyway the support they keep giving Ukraine is out of desperation and fear of losing to Russia they can't just afford to lose this war. I read somewhere that Ukraine might receive F-35 jets in the future.

motayoayinde:
When Hamas carried out a successful ambush, killing many of them in Gaza just 2 days ago, I knew they'd rush to the nearest refugee camp.

E shock me. Israeli airforce jets bombed a school where people were taking refuge killing 100 people. Israel has violated all international laws you can ever think off. Israel needs to be taught a hard lesson.

motayoayinde:
The killing of Haniyeh reflects Iran's carelessness about its internal security. Yes.
Iran needs to bite more than it barks. Yes.

All of these do not (and should) mean that an overpampered IDF which requires almost the entire NATO and more countries to defend it everytime it misbehaves in spite of a huge war chest and armoury given freely, is a match for a hugely resilient, self-reliant Iran with massive stockpile of missiles and a hard-to-beat topography.

Were the Ayatollah a younger, more hotheaded person, this matter would have been long settled. He seems too fatalistic and laid-back for a country like Iran at this time. Imagine the Houthis having the power of Iran.

Even if Iran beefs up internal security to a satisfactory level Mossad will continue to carry out operations inside Iran, the spy agency has infiltrated Iran so much thanks to the Iranian dissidents who are fed up with the administration in the country and want a change so they are ready to betray their country.

I'll keep saying Mossad is not formidable it is only taking advantage of the dissension between Iranian rulers and the citizens its operations are successful because Iranian dissidents are ready to join external forces to betray their country. It happened in Cuba when Fidel Castro became their communist president and people were fleeing in droves these people later became dissidents used by the CIA to fight Cuba and even made several attempt on Castro's life. Both internal and external dissidents in Iran are working for Mossad, CIA and other western intelligence agencies.

And I strongly agree with you about the Ayatollah.

Namaster:
430,000 from Nigeria alone?

Indians are still there.

Give it 30 years and all the cultures and civilisation that the UK sailed to on their ship and OPPRESSED and DAMAGED with their presence will FLY on planes to overrun the UK.

Love this for the UK!

This is the kind of REPARATIONS people should seek instead of doing Yahoo. Go to their country and use their resources like they used yours.

Warri people will say:

First to do, e no dey pain;
Second to do, eye go red.

Use their resources keh? They are the ones still using us o. Nigerians working in the UK are serving the UK government ni o. It's like still servitude/slavery in continuation. You have to be packing shift upon shift to make ends meet. It's like a life controlled by remote. From work to house then rest for some hours then back to work again that's the cycle. The tax the govt deducts sef.

Opening their borders wide does not represent reparation at all cause most people going are spending their hard earned Naira on UK university to get student visa to study and normalize there. UK is the one benefitting.

Masterviolence:
Alamkir
dermmy
motayoayinde
Balogunodua

Did y'all remember when I said I don't rate iran some months ago?

I guess with the reality on ground, you'll have no choice but to agree with me.

Iran is avoiding an all out war with Israel allies who are moving military assets to the region to defend Israel. Israel is causing troubles because of the unconditional support and assurance it receives from the West. Iran can only use proxies to attack Israel at this time since the killing of Hamas leader inside Iran was done by Mossad agents inside Iran it wasn't a direct military attack by Israeli military that should provoke a direct military response from Iran. Leave the West out of it and Israel is nothing we all know that.

CanadaQueen:
Thanks a lot. So it's that easy? The previous ones I've done were like 50k .
I'm still in Nigeria though but I thought the o line is for only those outside the country already
Pls has anyone done it withing Nigeria and I line?

You can also do it online if you are in Nigeria you have the option to choose if you are doing it from diaspora or within Nigeria on the website.

I remember when I used to buy Titus sardine 25 naira years back. Na wah o.

CanadaQueen:
Hello house,
1. Please does anyone know how much police character report costs?

2. Do you have a genuine contact there too at Alagbon?

3. Also, how long does it take to get the police report?

It costs 30k do it yourself don't let anyone collect extra money from you. Go to the police Character report website of the Nigerian Police Force. See here https://possap.gov.ng

I did mine outside Nigeria on that website and the Nigerian Police Force mailed it to me in a Pdf format. I repeat it only costs 30k and everything will be done on that website with your debit card.

After you've done it go to alagbon for your biometric capture if you are in Lagos and if outside Lagos go to the NPF State Headquarters you reside in that's if you are still in Nigeria and if you are abroad already NPF would email a biometric form for you to thumbprint, scan and send back to them. You'll get it within 72hrs.

WriteerNg:
Did sanctions also stop them from buying advanced fighter jets, airplanes, air defense systems from Russia, China, Turkey or even Brazil?

Iran is just an unserious countries.

The sanctions on Iran are not up to one tenth of the sanctions on Russia.

China is more sanctioned than Iran.

If you say Iran is unserious then how did it manage to build a conventional military that has dissuaded US and its vassals from invading over the years. An Iran that would threaten a nuclear armed Israel today then the next thing is for US and its Western vassals to start moving assets to the region to defend Israel. The reason Israel keeps doing what it is doing is because it has support from the West.

It's like you don't know the types of sanctions EU, UN, and US have heaped on Iran over the years. I think last year or so was the sanctions banning Iran from obtaining weapons from its international partners expired even US was still looking to lobby the UN to expand the sanction. Iran does not have the sufficient money to go on shopping spree for weapons now as it can't sell its oil the way it used to which is the mainstay of its economy. The little financial resources they have are being utilized for other pressing needs like their health sector.

You can't compare Iran with Russia. Russia is self reliant in the arms industry it can produce its own jet and other arms needed by its military Iran is also self reliant too but it can't produce sophisticated fighter jets like Russia.

Mille:
Genuine protestors should use their brain that they can always be infiltrated by people who have ulterior motives. A legitimate #Endsars lost its credibility when the said SARS was disbanded but still people started burning BRT buses, police stations, media houses, high court, looting and destroying private properties.

I followed the protest from the beginning. The Bangladeshi youths said they were protesting against the "Quota system". They got the attention of the government and the said "Quota" was reduced from 30% to 5%. Rather than disband after achieving their aims, they let themselves be influenced by the opposition and international groups to continue and shifted to "the president must go". The same president they voted in this year with 75% of the vote.

Now the president has gone. They are now left with their victory or loss, whichever they consider it to be. They'll look back to this day the same way Nigerians are looking back to the GEJ era. I just pity the 57 people, especially the three who received life sentences in the UAE for protesting.

Protests are always hijacked by miscreants it happens every where it happens in Europe and America so it is not new but that does not warrant a military take over. They have a constitution in place and there are contingency plans in that constitution should something like this happen I mean when a Prime Minister abdicates. And I believe that constitutional provision is not and can never be a military take cover.

Mille:
I always knew it will lead to this. Another military dictatorship loading. That was how her father and first Prime Minister of Bangladesh was killed, leading to coups and countercoups that ultimately led to a long dictatorship.

That's what happen when you protest without brains and clear directions. Congratulations to Pakistan and China for a successful coup.

Freedom is now lost in Bangladesh for a long time.

Don't blame the people. Protestors everywhere always have demands and goals. The military seizing the momentum to hijack power shows how irresponsible they are. A military that knows its constitutional responsibility won't do this.

Vic2023:
🇺🇸 The Pentagon does not have enough money for its own F-35 fighters

The total cost of the F-35 program over its entire service life will exceed $2 trillion, MWM writes, citing a new estimate from the US Government Accountability Office. The reason is the high maintenance requirements of the fighter and the cost per flight hour.

✖️ The United States will not be able to purchase as many fighters as planned due to the cost of maintaining them. In addition, the Pentagon has already invested billions in developing a new version of the F engine -35, since insufficient cooling of the current one will add another $38 billion in costs.

❗️ To make matters worse, the US has scheduled the F-35's retirement date for 2088. Thus, the fighters will be in operation for another 74 years, and replacements for them are not even being prepared yet.

Yet they are gunning for 6th generation platforms. Even their 5th gen platforms haven't seen combat yet.

BentizilL0:
Russia base bombed by Israel? 🤔
When?

I didn't even bother to reply him when I saw that.

Kingsnairaland:
The only thing Russia can give Iran is good air defense nothing more Iran has good missiles system

which have not been tested on battle I advise Iran to not strike since it was an explosive placed in the house.

Iran won't strike directly since Israel didn't launch a strike from its own soil. But it is good that US and Israel understand the threat Iran
poses. For Israel to be seeking military assistance from its Western partners and for US to hurriedly sent fighter jets and carriers to the region to defend Israel means Iran and its proxies are a big force to be reckoned with and their threat should not be taken lightly. This only exposes Israel's weakness, a country that can't defend itself without external support even from sunni Arab countries.

Iran has sophisticated multilayered air defence what Iran needs now is the modernization of its aging airforce and it needs money for that.

LordAdam16:
Much of the blame rests with Iran.
NK has a nuclear weapon.
China did everything to ensure they got one.
They also kept appearances by levying sanctions.
Now that NK have nukes, Russia and China are increasingly ignoring the sanctions

Iran has continually refused to get nukes.
Iran has continually refused to reform its conventional military.
Both China and Russia will be very pleased to supply Iran with any thing they require on decade-long loans but they're prioritizing local development of weapons.
They are running an unviable doctrine of developing everything of note in-house.
Since they had success with drones and ballistic missiles and have the most STEM graduates in the region, they believe they can crack everything. But that is wishful thinking.

China as advanced as they are do not have an homegrown alternative to the Russian S-500, American Aegis SM-3, and the Isreali Arrow 3.
India is relying on Russia for most of their air defense needs and developing homegrown systems side by side.
Iran is dithering and attempting to develop an entire multi-layer air defense system from scratch.
Russia deployed S-400 to Syria since as early as 2016. Turkey in NATO bought one. Iran has decided to buy none, only recently are they considering it. Since 2016, Russia has sent them 32 S-300 batteries, so if they put an order for the S-400, they'll be moved to the front of the queue.

How many S-400 + S-300 + Pantsir batteries can Russia deploy to Iran at a moment's notice with Russian operators to provide full coverage?

I detest the Mullahs for a reason.
When you look deep into how they run Iran, it leaves much to be desired.
China sent contractors to Gaza to help them build tunnels.
If any of them have died in this War, since Hamas forced some to stay for continued support, you would not hear about it.
They've literally gotten their hands dirty for the Resistance.
I'm not sure how much blame we can ascribe to Russia and China.

-Lord

Iran having nuclear weapons would be the begining of a dangerous nuclear arms race in the region. Saudi Arabia, UAE and some other sunni countries in the region have said they would go nuclear too should Iran posseses nuclear weapons. I believe Iran does not want that. Iran has tried conventionally to arm itself through its local arms industry kudos to them with all the sanctions.

Where Iranian military needs modernisation now is its aging and almost outdated airforce and I believe they are partnering Russia in that area but they don't have enough money to procure decent modern air platforms from Russia. I think they are trading drones and ballistic missiles for some though. Media parroted it that they procured SU35 months back.

Iran also has home built modern air defence systems that are capable. Like I said procuring Russian platforms comes at a cost too even though Russia has sophisticated cost effective weapons.

Vic2023:
📸 The Israeli Defense Minister Yoav Gallant met with his British counterpart, UK Secretary of State for Defence John Healey today.

The meeting can be summed into one stance and one demand:

🇮🇱 Israel's demand: Please help us defend ourselves against Iran and Hezbullah

🇬🇧 UK's stance: As a loyal goyim, we will do anything to help defend you. You do anything, and we will protect you from the consequences.

The West is the reason Israel keep violating international laws and creating trouble in the Middle East cause Israel knows it has an unconditional support from them.

Simeonjoe1:
Like He said I don't even give a hoot about copy this or copy that.
The problem here is calling American planes ugly when the Chinese and Russian is using similar designs!

Please tell us how you want Russia and China to design their stealth planes since you are a stealth expert. May be they should design a plane that lookss like football or wheel barrow. When Russia or China come up with what they don't expect then their technology has been copied.

Simeonjoe1:
Russia should complete their Su57 before they bring any checkmate, they've still not solve the numerous problem plaguing the jet.
They've not checkmated the F22 and F35 already they're unveiling another one.

What's the problem plaguing the SU-57 unlike the F-35 that keeps crashing into water. Always taking a dive into the sea. Japan once grounded its own F35 fleet years back due to incessant crashes. If it doesn't catch fire today it is crash landing or Sea-Diving tomorrow. How many SU-57 has crashed and caught fire?

Simeonjoe1:
It's on record that the US military accuse the Chinese of espionage and data bridge on vital military technology. F35 design is one of such data.
If you can't see the resemblance then something is wrong with your eyes.

Like an African adage: the witch cried yesterday pikin die today you come dey ask who kill pikin... Abi how them dey talk am 😂

US can keep crying cause China keeps making strides in its military aviation. One thing I understand now is when China makes something that rivals US own then American officials will start crying China carried out espionage and stole blueprint which China used to copy them.

Lies and propaganda just to make China look bad and make people think China is not innovative. If not because China was the first to distribute 5G we would have heard China copied America too. The same China is doing well in AI and Robotics we can as well say China copied US AI tech too.

obedience4:
😀😀😀😃😃😄😁😁
First of all the US b2 spirit bomber was the first bomber to incorporate the bat style wings to reduce radar cross sections, before the b2 has there be any bomber developed or in development using the B2 spirit wing design and frame??

@pics
First is the B2 spirit
Second is the Russia propose bomber
Third is the Chinese H20 prosped bomber

Even a blind man can see the silimtude between the three bombers in terms of its design

Stop being petty. The fact that America made it first and others later came up with theirs doesn't make others copycats. We can as well say America copied Russian hypersonic technology.

Simeonjoe1:
Even the Su57 is a poor design attempt rip off.
Look at the Su57 below is that the traditional sukhoi design? Sukhoi jets has a traditional lower slanty end to overhanging canopy.

Copying the US design(with bad job) then open mouth zaga say US planes no fine.

The last picture shows the traditional Sukhoi design. With its curved fuselage, compare to the Su57 that's almost flat like traditional American designs.

You are a liar. Even an aviation engineer won't say these you are saying. The fact that US was the first to produce something and others are coming up with their own doesn't make others copycats. Did you even study these jets well before coming here to type all these. If not that Russia was the first to use hypersonic weapons in combat you people would have said Russia copied US hypersonic weapons design because the nose and tail of the Khinzal, avangard, Zircon look like US design. I fear Una o.

Russia is too big to be copying US designs. Russia in its military aviation history has always come up with its own unique design. Infact sef the Russian Soyuz spaceship is an American copy 😂😂 according to you people.