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Stoplying:
It's like we are dealing with two fanatical groups here:
1. Supporters of colonialism
2. Supporters of Israeli genocide on Palestinians
3. Supporters of terrorist attacks by some Israeli soldiers on Palestinians
4. Supporters of terrorist attacks by some hsmas soldiers on civilians
5. I really don't like fanatics

Ok please how should the Palestinian people deal with the situation since those who rule the world (The West) are against them. Israel knows that the Palestinians would one day get a statehood so the goal is to grab as much land as possible before Palestine get a statehood and Hamas knows this.

Check the map of Palestine in the end they might become refugees in other countries after Israel has grabbed everything. And you want them to sit down and watch just like that.

Well. You are not a Palestinian. Put yourself in their shoes I bet you would have joined Hamas by now. If you were a Black man in the US in the 60's you would join the Black Panther. Freedom doesn't come on a platter of gold you have to fight for it, you have to be brutal. Even Black slaves in America rebelled and killed their white American oppressors and their children go and read the history of slave uprising in America.

Stoplying:
No, nothing justifies terrorism. Hamas shouldn't endorse terrorism and should denounce its members who did terrorist attacks.
Violence against the violent, not against innocent families.

Israeli forces kill innocent Palestine civilians everyday of this life and the world always move on without saying a word but when it comes to Hamas we are always quick to call them terrorists. What an unjust world.

Israel occupation forces are the terrorists here. Can't you people see? Did Hamas just start all this for fun. Don't you read news everyday how Israeli police and soldiers kill these people like chicken even when there is no war.

Stoplying:
Hamas needs to come out and condemn the guys in their side who killed civilians and bring them to justice (people say this happened, I don't know). Also any civilian hostage must be released. If Hamas doesn't do these, its leadership can be considered terrorist and should be listed as an enemy of Palestine alongside Israel.

The violence of colonialism can only be met with corresponding violence - Frantz Fanon

Anything Hamas does is justified it's like you people don't know what the Palestinian people have faced under Israeli occupation and oppression. Israeli forces kill innocent Palestine civilians everyday of this life and the world always move on without saying a word but when it comes to Hamas we are always quick to call them terrorists. What an unjust world.

Procashtips:
Palestine have more authentic Jews and Christians than the so called Israel.

This is a verified fact.

Exactly. The ones Britain brought to the area are fake Jews in fact atheists and Europeans from all walks of life were brought to Palestine from Europe by ship when Britain got Palestine as mandate after the fall of the Ottoman empire after WW1.

demmie1:
Because the romans destroyed their lands in 70AD and they scattered all over the world to europe, armenia, ethiopia, but there were small settlements remaining in the land that had no political significance until the british help them create the state of isreal in 1948AD

I have listened to an Israeli historian who said there is no historical record that established the lie that the Jews left Palestine for Europe he said that did not occur. This rethoric is just made up by Europe to establish its false claim that the fake jews they brought from Europe by ship to fulfill British colonial mandate in Palestine once left the area and are now returning to their homeland.

He said it had always been the vision of Europe to take Jerusalem and its surrounding area since the time of the The Crusades. Which is true. Anyone who knows the history of the Crusades would know that the plan to take Jerusalem and its environs started in the 11th century by the crusaders.

All the Israeli historians saying the truth about this matter have been made to leave Israel because they were receiving threats from Mossad.

WrriterNig:
⚡️Israeli bombing towards Bastra Farm in Shebaa Farms, Lebanon

Una sure say Hezbollah no go enter this thing.

mysticwarrior:
The middle has been plagued by wars since the beginning of time.

The Muslims had always been their own problem right from time since the the era of The Crusades through betrayal. It was Sharrif Hussein also known as Hussein bin Ali King of Hejaz in Saudi Arabia that helped Britain and France to put an end to Ottoman rule through out middle east through his Great Arab Revolt.

Why? The Wahhabis in Saudi Arabia detests the Ottomans because they didn't see them as true Muslims so there were wranglings between the Ottoman Empire and Saudi Arabia. Britain and France who already had colonial interest in the Middle East saw this and exploited it and approached Hussein Bin Ali to help them route the Ottomans out of Middle East. So they promised him control of greater Arab state, Syria, Palestine Lebanon and Jordan. Shariff Hussein fell for it and led a popular Revolt known as Great Arab Revolt by historians through out the Middle East and all the sunnis expelled the Ottomans.

As a result the Ottomans lost the control of Palestine and other Areas it was controlling in the middle East. Now when it came to the time that the British and French should fulfill their promises to Hussein Ben Ali they reneged and took those Ottoman territories for themselves.

It later dawned on Hussein Ben Ali he had been used by these imperialists. He spent the rest of his life regretting it. Because no matter what the Ottomans were still their Muslim brothers instead of this white imperialists that has come to occupy their lands. If he didn't fall for Britain's trick by helping her to put an end to Ottoman rule in Palestine and other Areas in middle east there would be no Israel that we have today.

The Muslims had always been their own problem since the era of The crusades. At Versailles when the League of Nations was declaring Palestine, Syria as Mandate of British and French empire respectively Hussein Bin Ali's son was shocked he went back home to solidify his grip on Syria the French sent troops to wage war against him in what is known as Battle of Maysalun. He had to flee Syria.

His father finished Middle East.

mysticwarrior:
Even though the motive behind his statement is to mock Isreal, he is right about what he said.

As in, Ayatollah Khamenei can troll and mock Chai. That man ehn. For US to have hurriedly sent strike group to the Middle East because of Israel is even an embarrassment and a mockery of Israel's "invincibility".

US knows if Hezbollah enters this war Israel would face a humiliating defeat hence the need to send a strike group to the region. Everyone now knows that Israel exists because it is being propped up by America.

tonididdy:
...but Hamas did it
And isreals acts of past and present suddenly became justifiable to the eyes of many.

Who's to blame?

Look it doesn't matter how many people choose to stay on the side of injustice and evil. Injustice is injustice and evil is evil. Oh yes many religious bigots around the world and the western world would always support Israel but it does not change the fact that evil ie evil. Having many supporters does not always make you right.

tonididdy:
The world can never ever be equal or fair as you wish.
The rich and the poor exists for a reason. If this world was one eldorado as you wish, then nobody will send heaven or 21 virgins.

Hamas should know they are no match for the IDF, what they did is a stupid unthought act, a short victory ( like they haven't being happy or had a win in years, they just had to do this) but now it's at the expense of poor Palestinians

Even if Hamas did not do this. It is still the same thing the goal of Israel from the beginning is to destroy Palestinians and take the whole land for themselves. The ethnic cleansing of the Palestine people began when Israel was created and it has progressed to this day. Many South Africans were massacred by the apartheid regime too. People will continue to resist oppression anywhere in the world regardless of the consequences it's in our nature.

You are saying at the expense of poor Palestinians as if Hamas are Nigerians. Are they not the same oppressed people Isreal is trying to write off from the face of the earth. Israel made Hamas. Israel's oppression + Killing and land grabbing = Hamas

Vl3ly:
I swear Ukraine military force strong pass this chicken force

I swear. Hamas just disgraced them and made the whole world know how powerless they are without US backing. The world won't forget this in a hurry. Even Iran is laughing hard now.

tonididdy:
Listen to me kiddo
I'm no religious fanatic.
All I know is Hamas behaved like animals and thus should be treated as one.
It's nobody fault it's not a fair war ammunitions wise ...well they should have tot of that and their people before they chose terrorism as a path.

Hamas fought the legitimate Palestine govt who were seeking a diplomacy path, Hamas never wants peace ...this is the kind of food they live for ...they will get it

Let me join your discussion with the other guy.

You wrote Hamas behaved like animals right? I think the Israelis are more animalistic cause one or more Palestinian must die at their hands everyday. It is an animal that keeps encroaching on your land illegally building settlement on them even after UN had cautioned Israel to stop.

Israel does not want peace either cause the goal is to destroy all Palestinians and grab the whole land. Cause if Israel wants peace it won't continue to grab Palestinian lands by building settlements on them. Ignoramuses are always quick to blame Hamas without seeing what is going on.

What is motivating Hamas or does Hamas just like causing trouble just for fun? If Israel halts its illegal expansion and stop killing Palestinians daily and desecrsting Al-Aqsa Mosque let's see if peace won't reign.

mysticwarrior:
I sympathize with the family of those killed by the Hamas attack, but do you also know that entire Palestinian families has been wiped out by Isreali attack as well?

You don't have to sympathize with the families of Israelis killed by Hamas resistance fighters. Israel's forces kill Palestinians on a daily basis. It's a daily routine for Israeli troops and the systematic ethnic cleansing of the Palestinian people.

Godfather898989:
In 12hrs time you will be here crying foul. The response is going to be unpredictable. If Israel should be targeting civilians as Hamas, this war will be over in hours mark my words not days:

Will you cut the crap. Israel had always targeted civilians even on a peaceful day when there was no war. This one has exposed Israel's fake invincibility. Deal with it.

Nbote:
Isreal needed an excuse to level Gaza and take more lands

You mean Israel needed an excuse that would make her plead for urgent military assistance from US like Ukraine. An excuse that has led to 900 Israeli deaths, Israel's single greatest casualty since the holocaust. Dey play

The earlier you people admit that Israel is not "invincible" the better it becomes for you.

Only Hamas is making Israel request additional military assistance.

The idea of Israel's "invincibility" has always been a joke. Only a non-state actor with no air force, air defense system, jammers, and ballistic missile has bloodied Israel's nose. This is the Israel that wants to take on Iran and its proxies. SMH

Fejoku:
You clearly don't know the history of Palestine as a region.
There have always been Jews in Palestine right from antiquity. It is the reason why Hebrew language featured on that coin dated 1927.

Wire me my money asap.

Actually both of you are right. The ones Britain brought from Europe with ships are fake Jews that Britain used to fulfill its mandate in Palestine not the original ones in Palestine that were there right from antiquity as you wrote.

Alamkir:
The irony.... It's The same with eastern Nigeria people that want freedom but are supporting Israel. Some pple dnt think things through

That's why I don't have any iota of pity for the igbo people. You people have been marginalized in Nigeria your case is almost similar to that of the Palestinians yet you still support Israel the oppressor. Anyway they do claim they are jews too so what do I know

WriterNigg:
⚡🇮🇱 Israel has requested additional military assistance from the United States and the request is being considered, 🇺🇸 US Secretary of State Antony Blinken said.

Only Hamas is making Israel request additional military assistance. Breeze don blow we don see foul yansh.

The idea of Israel's "invincibility" has always been a joke. Only a non-state actor with no air force, air defense system, jammers, and ballistic missile has bloodied Israel's nose. This is a significant event in the 21st century. This is the Israel that wants to take on Iran and its proxies. SMH

WriterNigg:
⚡🇮🇱 Israeli Artillery and Helicopters are Pounding a number of Sites along the Border with Lebanon where Incursions by Militants are said to have occurred.

I still don't understand why Hezbollah has not unleashed its fury. Maybe it is cooking some surprises too.

ChatterHouse:
killing innocent isreali in their home is fighting for freedom?
Then you're a hypocrite

Israel has killed many more and thousands of Palestinians in their homes than Hamas. Everyday of this life Israel must kill a Palestinian. It is part of the systematic ethnic cleansing campaign Israel started since its creation in 1947.

Mossadd:
don't you think Iran will join if US intervene directly?

US won't intervene directly. If US did the whole region would go up in flames and US interest in the region would be attacked by proxies. What US did by sending a carrier group is just military posturing and to stop any direct transfer of arms from Iran to Hamas.

Appleyard:
Hamas fit the terrorist tag because it is deliberately attacking civilians. But come to think of it, who does t kill civilians these days?

The US bombed wedding parties in Afgjan, the IDF is trigger happy killing stone throwing children and women in Gaza, and Russian bombing of Aleppo hardly discriminate against terrorist and civies. So, they all have been killing civilians either way.

It's ordinary people that suffers most in wars.

Stop it. Hamas is not a terrorist organization but a resistance movement fighting occupation and oppression. One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter.

During the apartheid South Africa the African National Congress decided to setup a paramilitary group know as Umkhonto We Sizwe to defend themselves from the murderous apartheid police and military they adopted terror like tactics to carry out acts of retribution people called them terrorists but didn't reason why they were doing it and their motivation same goes to Hamas.

The African American in the US also created the Black Panthers to defend and avenge themselves. Should we call them terrorists too without asking what motivated them. Can you continue to oppress a group of people without expecting them to respond?

I know you are a Christian, so am I if you think this artificial state of Israel is the Hebrew Israel you read about in your Bible you are mistaken. Go and read and do research. If Israeli Historians are saying the land does not belong to this fake Israel that Britain created for its colonial exploitation then our spider sense should start tingling.

#peace

Appleyard:
That is exactly what I'm still trying to wrap my head around. It doesn't make sense to me.

Well. The Palestinians can't die in silence even if they didn't carry out this attack Israel would still continue to kill them systematically the way it has been doing. Hardly a day goes by without you hearing that Palestinians died at the hand of Israeli troops carrying out raids in the occupied territories. Israel should stop its illegal building of settlements on Palestinian lands. Whatever Israel make out of this war is still the same thing they had been doing from the beginning which is the destruction of the Palestine people so that they can grab the whole land.

It does not make sense to you because you are in Nigeria and you are free but if you were a Palestinian you would understand what it means to live under bondage and oppression.

@Chatterhouse only retards would view this crisis from a religious perspective, only idiots would pick a side based on their religious dogma. You people think this war is about Christianity and Islam. I wish you people knew the history of Palestine and how this artificial and colonial state called Israel was created by Britain and France to some extent.

Hamas is not fighting a religious war. Hamas is a resistance movement fighting Israeli occupation and ill treatment of Palestine. The Palestinians are one of the most oppressed people on earth in fact they are endangered specie. They have to fight for their liberation.

seunny4lif:
Israeli officials have asked the United States for help in replenishing interceptor missiles for the Iron Dome missile defense system and other ammunition. This includes ammo for small arms as well as cooperation in intelligence gathering, the Washington Post reports.

Imagine. Israel is nothing without US. So Hamas could make them run out of interceptor missiles. What would happen if Iran engages them. See their life outside. Israel is just a US satellite state that can't survive without US aid.

BentizilL0:
Israel should face Hamas first...
Israel is now the 2nd best army in Israel...

Without any foreign support, Israel cannot win any battle against Hezbollah... 2006 will be a child play...

I'm loving where this is going... My only disappointment is that Russia will not intervene against Israel because of the brotherly relationship, this would've been the perfect opportunity to seal the West fate...

This is the Israel that is always willing to start a confrontation with Iran only Hama is dealing a devastating blow on Israel like this. If Iran decides to activate all proxies in the region what would be the fate of the artificial state called Israel?

Hezbollah will give them the same treatment the Taliban gave them in Afghanistan.

Pierocash:
See them, terrorist celebrating an unprovoked attack on Israeli forces and killing even innocent civilians.

Don't worry , a week from now, you terrorists will know how far. Isreali is the only cure for you terrorists, you guys have been suffering defeat from isreal on yearly basis, this time won't be different. They keep provoking war they always can't withstand. Senseless f. ools

"Unprovoked attack on Israel" ?

Only God knows how you people reason at times.

dvkot:
we all know they can never take back their territories with this tactics.. And as always hamas will just regroup in some few years and repeat the same thing

You are right to some extent. The muslim countries that should be standing for Palestine are playing politics with the issue looking after their own selfish interest. They have been playing politics with it since Israel was created. Now they are aligning with Israel the likes of Saudi Arabia, Jordan, Qatar, UAE, Bahrain, Kuwait are all US puppets you won't see them take any action or condemn Israel.

Iran is the only Muslim country in the Middle East that stand by Palestine and Turkey to some extent.

dvkot:
the big question is WHAT WAS THE PLAN? .
Even is iran provided intelligence, what do they want to get out of this? Hamas knows Israel will hit back harder so why do it anyway?

It doesn't matter how Israel hit. Israel's tactic is what military strategists calls Shock and Awe . This is not the first time Israel has used such tactics yet Hamas have never been deterred. Look you can't continue to oppress a group of people and make life hell on earth for them without expecting any retribution from them.

It's good Hamas packed a big punch this time Israel knows what to expect next time from Hamas and I think this would make Israel change its ways.

WriteerNig:
⚡🇺🇸 U.S. Secretary of State, Antony Blinken had Confirmed that Americans have been Killed by Hamas Attacks in Israel over the last 48 Hours and that there are still a number of Americans who are Missing that were possibly Kidnapped by Terrorist into the Gaza Strip.

Whenever Israel carry out its barbarity by killing innocent Palestinians or build illegal settlements on Palestinian land US and its allies would keep quiet but when Hamas carries out its own act of retribution they call them "terrorists" nonsense.