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Trash as usual

Oooops:
I may have a different concept of how I pay tithe and I wanna know if I'm wrong....

I get my Salary say 50k...
I then calculate and remove my basic needs for that month (feeding and transportation) say 20k,

Then the remaining cash I remove one tenth from it for my tithe...
Is this practicable? is it acceptable? Bible scholars kindly assist because I wanna be sure I'm/have been doing the right thing...
Thanks

Pay to who? for what?

It does this as well.

Donshemzy1234:
its debate time my people! Has person's everywhere been using HIJAB to oppress or it is a form of libration.
Note: we are not discussing whether using HIJAB is good or bad. just want us to discuss if people has been using it to oppress each other or if it is a form of libration.

Oppression of the mind

If you give to a 'needy', you've given to God as instructed in your religious text. If you give to the church, you give to the course of a proprietary religious movement (known or unknown).

acenazt:
Yes they are just admirable. Organized and coordinated.
They conduct their meetings without disturbing anyone. Unlike some lousy ministries where they scream and shout like insane people. And keep you awake all night

I suspect they practice or apply 'Robert's Rules of Order' in their gatherings.

Interesting.
Let me look through these.

winner01:
Relax. Try to be coherent.

You probably lack basic understanding and empathy

rawgame:
It is scientifically proven that we live in a universe of cause and effects(because the universe is not without the dimension of time) so the universe cannot be eternal. But without the dimension of time there will be no cause and effect. Therefore God has not need of being created but created time(see my initial post below) dimension so that cause and effect would exist for us.

However, God created time, cause and effect would never apply to his existence. So, God is eternal and the universe is clearly not



CC: SirWere Weah96 Desepiero dblackninja

To be frank, you're seriously speculating.

Scholar8200:
Thanks a lot.

Don't thank me, think with your brain.
Don't rely on thoughts of dead Jews.

Scholar8200:
Nice question:
1. In the beginning, God created the Heaven and the Earth, and man;
2. After the flood, man tried to establish a one world govt(Genesis 10:9,10., before the great dispersion);
3. God dispersed man and every body went separate ways each with a version of the error that underlay point 2
4. Others, in trying to ignore God, created idols but it was clear what was involved (eg baal being shaped like a phallus etc)
4b The people in 2 and 4 are the roots of the genealogical tree that has branched into various gods and idols.
5. While various groups followed either the error in 2 or the ones invented in 4, there were some like Enoch, Job, Abraham that still held on to the true God of 1.
6. Of those that did so, God embarked on fulfilling His promise of a Deliverer. And all over the World, there are that recognised and hold on to the Deliverer promised!
7. Since the personality behind the errors of 2 & 4 saw that the promises he tried to prostitute were being fulfilled, he embarked on an underhanded upgrade of the lies he sold to man. For example, at the time of Genesis 11/12, the best he could steal was that somebody was the woman whose Seed will destroy the serpent. After Christ, they quickly upgraded their stories to anachronistically include parts of the life of Jesus which they did not have before. (This is why they tried to infiltrate the Church in the early years, books like the Gospel of Barnabas is a similar effort along this line)

Now, if there was no God, and you claim man invented God (the One in point 1)? Then what template informed their decision? Why would they invent idols and to achieve what purpose or with which model in mind? And why do we have disparities in commands if man invented the God concept? If evolution populated the world, whence the diversity in language? For example animals, lions do not roar in Africa but grunt in India? Goats do not grunt in Nigeria but miaow in China?

If like someone said, it was biodiversity that took very slow steps, okay, why did it leave the animals behind and single out man?

Trash

same here. 340.7 was my rate

Meanwhile

Outside all the News about Saraki recently, I have always seen him as a fraud.

lordnicklaus:
Good question bro!! It actually is a fulfillment of what Jesus said
"Because iniquity shall rule, the love of a multitude will grow cold" - Matthew 24:12

In fact Peter the Apostle had predicted the future decadence in Christianity when he said:

"But there existed false prophets among the people even as there will exist false teachers among you, who will secretly adopt destructive heresies even denying the Lord who bought them, bringing on themselves, a quick demise.
And many will follow their destructive ways, because of them, the way of the truth will be insulted" - 2nd Peter 2:1-2

This is exactly what is happening bro!!! But members of the early church spread their message in a peaceful way yet we Christians today spread our message by the gun and by a sword our doctrines are made known.

I personally, do not force my ideas down anyone's throat. But to say there is no God simply because of the faults of His so-called devotees is too extreme for me. I also do not shun science simply because most of its practitioners and or enthusiasts do not believe in an all powerful creator. In fact when one considers facts and non-superstitious faith, they are two sides of the same coin.
Homosexuals are just being accepted as part of the society. Christianity on the other hand wasn't forced on people, they were just given a good reason to accept it. But today, it has become a do or die affair.

Lmao This isn't far from you.

kevoh:
Old but nice thread. Only about two or three people who commented so far really understood the purpose of Seun's thread. Anyone can come up with a belief but what makes yours out of the thousands out there and beyond any doubt the true one? It's that simple.

You really spoke my mind.
Seun is painting a picture.

Death is final.

At least till there's a scientific breakthrough with transfer of human consciousness. If at all it's possible.

KingEbukaNaija:
The dirt was used to mould man by an eternal intelligent being , a supernatural one . Yours claims that dirt just had life and developed on its own to form man . Which is more rational bikonu ?

Maybe you need to know what I believe in before you conclude on that.

By the way, why have this so called supernatural and eternal one disappeared and left y'all to his description by stories of ancient men in your religious text. Is he dead?

KingEbukaNaija:
Microbes transforming into human beings with different genders . Yours is worse than a folklore . And being obdurate about magical gibberish masquers red as science is deleterious to a sound mind .

...and soil transforming into a human being sounds logical to your educated mind?

smh. pot calling kettle black.

lol. . . wtf

johnydon22:
the bible, quran, veda, enuma elish religious codecs are not the proofs whose authenticity needs to be debunked.

these in fact are the claims.

I use these religious texts in my work 'Songs of the world' there are just piece of human enquiry so deserves as much respect.

The only problem is when one tries to make them a literal absolute truth knowing fully well how limited these ancient men were.

The theist or deist won't debate without citing a religious text as proof or reference. So what's the point, it's more or less their proof.

I get your point perfectly well anyway.

johnydon22:
It's an inconclusive argument always has been..

If one says 'God created the universe' to fill the gap of ignorance on universal causality then God here becomes the subject.

who created God?

if then you say God is 'eternal' in order to save a step and cut the enquiry at that point.

then what was the need in the first place of invoking God for the universe, we could have simply then saved that step and said the 'universe is eternal' and the case it closed.

this is a speculative argument because the premise being dragged is somewhere nobody really knows yet.

thats the plain truth, no one knows and the problem here is the inability for people to agree I don't know rather than aiming to fill that gap of ignorance with 'gut feelings'

Well said. The argument remains inconclusive. Meanwhile, we could argue and debunk the authenticity of a human proof (Bible) of the existence of a God and the origin of all things.

Both theists and atheists, to some extent are biased and close-minded in their opinions about Gods existence.

The 2nd big question is "what existed before anything else existed and how did it come to existence?"

Diamondqueen:
Do you think her size is too skinny? Would you date this size?

I'd fuc.k this size. Nothing more.

Bunch of trash!

yet pesin mama dey contest.

by the way, are those jobless assho!es paid to campaign for them?

Trump is the man for the job.