₦airaland Forum

hillsate: GEJ fell short of calling Amanpour and indeed dept of state, USA liars on his interview with Amanpour.
You do not insinuate these guys as liars without they shoving the truth to your face.
GEJ bought wahala by even calling the dept of state as an interest group.
They will so humiliate GEJ for trying to mar the image of USA. Next time he hears Amanpour, he'll think twice before granting interview if he has no truth to say.

adconline: What a display of idiocy?! Always blaming foreigners but Nigerians

manny4life: So now, I'm debating an example? Seriously? You alluded to the fact that "all evidence points to them not as Igbo", yet you say I'm debating examples. The dissatisfaction the Igbos have with him is VERY CLEAR, even I, I clearly stated my own beef as well, BUT my reply wasn't on the general scheme of dissatisfaction, but on your unfair allusions and reservation...

I'm glad you say it's an indicator, YET, YOU DID NOT ANSWER MY QUESTION - WHAT MAKES ONE IGBO, HOW DO YOU DEFINE IGBO?

State your indicators please, it will be fair to state your opinions and grievance so I can see. You're right, it will NEVER happen, so unless you've fairly said what the beef is to regards to your "positioning indicators", they're mere fallacies, redundant accusations in thin air.

Those who took bribe to sell their brothers are Igbos, and I get it. However, doesn't that overrule your point? Aren't there those who helped their brothers though they dined and laughed with the opposites, aren't they Igbos? Like seriously, what is your point? Shouldn't a leader be more of a character driven(humility, aggressive, strength, outspoken, kind, vocal, etc)?

Yes, it holds no shred of validity, and no I won't borrow a leaf from Ogugua88 and keep quiet. I will speak out when issues like this arise because I've been a victim of circumstance as well. Up until recently, I started being vocal - I do not believe in ONE NIGERIA BECAUSE WE LACK THAT UNION. If we can't even embrace ourselves as Igbos, how much more in one nation? And you're hear talking about Nigeria, are you kidding me?

Nonetheless, I will NOT cut the nose to spite the face - I cannot dislike my brother because he wants to embrace Nigeria (a nation at the brink of collapse). We have different ideologies and principles, we may not agree with one another, but we should learn to respect each others views and most importantly - our differences when they arise.

Dude, I CANNOT change your mentality, if you're grossed by the fact that Odumchi and Ogugua88 are representing us, then your beef is understandable but saying that you have evidence pointing to them that they are not Igbo is plainly ridic. A lot of people who dislike Obama because he's the president, it's fine, but making the argument that Obama wasn't born here is just ridiculous and stupid. Hope you get my drift. Same applies here.

jp philips: young man it does, let me suppose you are a sadist or perhaps a direct beneficiary of the said malfeasance,

do you know how much this country receives in aids and grants from these same people you think its not their business?

take this as an example, how can USAID give Nigeria $2b to fight malaria, yet Nigeria makes $2b in less than a week in oil sales alone.

what this great minds are trying to say is this;

they need a strategy of accountability for developing economies who still have viable sources of income, because if that is achieved they will spend less in giving them aids and grants.

the western world want to save their money and they know they can achieve that by helping developing economies fight corruption.

it is sardonic that the average Nigerian does not really understand how much they have lost in the hands of corruption, needless to point that bigotry and other social ills have blinded them completely from the obvious truth.

Now i don't want the G8 to stop there,

i want a situation where all the world creditors will blacklist Nigeria from accessing international grants and loans, This ban will be gradually lifted as soon as a responsible government is accountable as to how he spends his own money.

you cant ask the white man to help you with money when you use yours to dance "Azonto" in the market square, it is ridiculous and the G8 is now ready to deal with it.

the sour end of that road is that we pile up so much debt that even generations unborn cannot offset them. imagine where your debt is bigger than your so called foreign reserve, that is why our economy is not progressive.

Obasanjo paid off the paris club debt with $12b in raw cash, now imagine what that whooping sum could have achieved in this economy. the Govt that succeeded obasanjo did not wait 6 months to incur 2 times the Paris club debt, can you imagine that?

on a lighter note, please G8 as a personal favor to me, launch a covert operation that will disintegrate the PDP just like the soviet USSR, that will significantly reduce the level of corruption in Nigeria,

for the biggest political party in Africa to dip hands in a country's foreign reserve to pursue an election agenda, is not just a slap to the Nigerian people but also an affront to our sensibilities.
surely, Nigeria has a lot of economic terrorists and the United Nations security council should as matter of urgency invoke a near PATRIOT ACT for the annihilation of these goons that lead Nigeria

so help me God

miiraaj: Is there any sense in this post?

Wendyslim: . Na your papa mate you dey tell make he shut up. Hmmmmmm I pity you oooooo even if na him pick am person no dey change abi you no no say change is constant?

Dede1: It is a borderline lunacy for anybody to insinuate that Africans invented anything worthy of mention. Where are the traces of such imagery inventions by Africans? Flood water does not percolate anyhow. The idea of African invention is a feel-happy crap borne out of idiocy.

davidylan: This is quite a daft response. Of course if i drove my car to work i do not claim to have flown or walked... but neither does the car claim to have gotten their by itself nor have i seen a donkey having a say in whether corn or wheat is the crop of choice on the farm ploughed. African Americans were the slave labor... but the true brains and those deserving of most of the credit are the white Europeans... look at Haiti.



To say America would not have existed without African Americans is the real horse manure here. Lets be honest with ourselves...



That is a dishonest play on words. Again blacks were simply the slaves who simply did what massa told them to do.



Again i repeat... Haiti hasnt been colonised in over 50yrs... why cant they get their shit together still while countries like the Dominican republic are doing ok? Nah... just blame the white man for the black man's failures.



Big fool... the Dominican republic shares a large border with Haiti and its GDP per capita is at least 8-9 times more than that of Haiti. Next excuse?

Rossikk: Don't mind these worthless, self-hating slaves.

If I started a thread praising ancient Roman ingenuity, you'd be shocked how they'd all suddenly love history and contribute fulsomely to the thread.

davidylan: yeah the USA was built by african/slave labor but do we also credit the ox or donkey for being the one who is responsible for a bountiful harvest? Blacks in the US take credit for something that really isnt theirs... the whites concieved of the mordern day american society, designed it and then used the black man as free labor to achieve his goals. its a shame that you consider this a thing to be proud of. the same blacks went to Haiti and have turned it into a complete disgrace.

Oh and with respect to Haiti, are we back to blaming Europeans for the failure of blacks to build a society?

Rossikk: ^^^ It's obvious you have a very low IQ to insist that listing African historical accomplishments (which you ignorantly and stupidly label ''dubious'' despite the fulsome evidence supplied), somehow implies an unwillingness to face the present or future. I would understand your 'point' if the entire Nairaland forum was filled with history threads. But it isn't. So what you really ARE saying, is Africans should IGNORE and NOT DISCUSS their history AT ALL.

The question is: WHY NOT?

I tend to think it's your inferiority complex that makes this topic so deeply unsettling to you and your ilk. Your mind is programmed to see Africans as non-achievers, and these facts from history directly fly in the face of your brainwashed, self-loathing state, hence your instinctive opposition. You have my sympathies. What I'd advise is this: If this topic is not to your taste, or you reckon you cannot handle it, you know where the door is.

new maonza: I think China has really been Good to Africa cos If not for them,,,, Africa would have been behind by 20years,I see the Chinese as very good Business-Men, the WEST wanted to Punish Africa for their sins and China came to the Rescue offering us Protection and Cheap Goods for just Our Mineral resources that are useless to us Africans "until needed by the west".
Itz High time Black Africans should learn from this window of opportunity that China has offered us and become self sufficient cos when they get a cheaper option to Africa............Only God Knows

obadiah777: YOU DONT GET IT. THIS IS NOT ABOUT THE OIL YOU OWN. THIS IS ABOUT HOW YOUR COUNTRY ACQUIRES ITS WEALTH BY LIVING OFF OTHER COUNTRIES. THIS IS HOW IT WORKS. IN THE 70S UNDER NIXON, OPEC NATIONS WERE COERCED INTO ACCEPTING THE DOLLAR AS PAYMENT METHOD FOR THEIR OIL. SO EVERY NATION THAT WANTS OIL HAS TO COME TO AMERICA FOR DOLLARS. SO YOUR COUNTRY PRINTS THE DOLLARS OUT OF THIN AIR AND GIVES TO THESE NATIONS. AND THESE NATIONS GIVE YOUR COUNTRY THE EQUIVALENT IN GOODS. THIS IS WHY YOUR COUNTRY IS AWASH WITH ALL THE WORLDS GOODS. AND THEN THE NATIONS TAKE THE MONEY TO OPEC NATIONS FOR OIL. THEN THE OPEC NATIONS RETURN THE MONEY TO AMERICA FOR INTEREST TREASURY BONDS. SO BASICALLY AMERICA RECEIVED ALL THE WORLDS GOODS AND STILL ENDED UP WITH THEIR MONEY BACK. ALL THEY GAVE UP WAS SOME PIECE OF PAPER CALLED INTEREST TREASURY BONDS. AND THIS IS WHY YOU ARE 16 TRILLION IN DEBT. YOU HAVE BEEN FEEDING OFF THE NATIONS WHILE GIVING NOTHING BACK. THIS IS WHY YOU ARE LIVING LAVISH ON OTHER PEOPLES MONEY. NOW THIS FREE LIVING IS ONLY SUSTAINABLE SO LONG AS OPEC NATIONS ACCEPT THE DOLLARS. HOWEVER GHADDAFI AND SADAM TRIED TO STOP THE GRAVY TRAIN BY SAYING THEY WANT TO USE EUROS NOW. WE KNOW WHAT HAPPENED TO THEM. AND IRAN IS DOING THE SAME. HOWEVER IRAN IS NOT LIBYA OR IRAQ. IRAN HAS STRONG ALLIES. SO BASICALLY THIS IS NOT ABOUT THE OIL IN YOUR BACKYARD OR THE NON-EXISTENT GOLD YOU THINK YOU HAVE BECAUSE I HEARD THE GOLD HAS DISAPPEARED. THIS IS ABOUT YOUR STANDARD OF LIVING. YOU HAVE TO ENFORCE IT WITH WAR. WITHOUT WHICH YOU ARE FINISHED. AND TO ADD TO THE QUAGMIRE IS THAT YOU HAVE SHIFTED YOUR MANUFACTURING BASE OUT OF THE COUNTRY SO YOU HAVE NO GOODS TO BARTER. SO IF IRAN IS NOT TAKEN OUT, YOUR COUNTRY MAY END UP IN FAMINE, SCARCITY OF GOODS, HYPERINFLATION, FOOD RIOTS, FEMA, MARTIAL LAW, PEOPLE EATING THEIR OWN BABIES ETC ETC LOL. ITS COMING. YOU HAVE TO NUKE IRAN OR YOU WILL END UP IN FAMINE.

manny4life: Well, given that Obama delivered on

1. Killing Osama Bin Laden,

2. Crumbling the Al-queada network (almost all their leaders are done with),

3. Delivered on the Libya and Gadahhi crisis,

4. Delivered on Iran (tough sanctions by the day that Iran was pushed and threatened to block the strait/seaway),

5. Delivered on NK (their economy is literally crying for help, but I give it to them, they're still moving ahead though in hunger). Even when they launched their missile last march, rumors had it was shot down even before it before I could "HEY"... haha

If he had delivered all these when he actually said he will deliver, then I trust his words.

Princess1982: None of the countries who have nukes legally under the UN treaty has used them since 1945 all the countries that feel they should have them or have them wants to wipe America out now America has its flaws I can admit that but have we not aided other countries in their time of need? Haiti's for example we sent billions of dollars in Aid when the earthquake hit, we have been the worlds military and piggy bank for years. There was a time when our military presence alone brung hope to a nation ruled by dictators that there will be a better tomorrow like when the Nazi's were in Germany there was hopeful wispers among people that the American's are coming now Im not trying to be boastful like we are better then every other nation but we are usually the first to step up when our foreign brothers and sisters are in need.