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[quote author=chris_ibu link=topic=126221.msg3061274#msg3061274 date=1226237006]It may just be a scandal. I've heard lots of rumours pertaining this same Pastor Chris. But the end shall surely justify the mean!!![/quote]The ends justify the means!!!!! that quote has nothing to do with christianity's doomday prophesies.

Are there any angels with yoruba, igbo, hausa, bini, itsekiri, ashanti, swahili names, angels with any african names? Do all the angels of your god have jewish names?

I'm yet to hear y'all speak about ANGEL NNAMDI, ANGEL GBENGA, ANGEL MOBUTU, ANGEL ADEFEMI or even female angels.

Jakumo:
Dios keep your itinerary secret, your dress casual, your accent local, and the world will turn.

Thanks for the advice. But if you are going somewhere that you haven't been in almost 10 years, you would love to see the people you used to be around. I just want to have a good time and chill with friends and fam without having to watch what I say or do at all times.

Jakumo:
While some of the Nigerians resident in the United States do visit Nigeria now and then to touch base with their ancestral homes, any romantic notions of remaining in Nigeria are promptly quelled by any of the following occurrences.

1. Attack by armed robbers on the way from Lagos airport and before the travellers reach their destination.

2. Three hour delay by policemen on the way from Lagos airport, during which all baggage is taken apart and searched for cash and valuables, which are likely to be confiscated by the long arm of the law in exchange for free passage into the hands of the next gang of policemen.

3. Arriving into a dwelling that has not been supplied with grid electricity for several years, and where the newly refurbished Aba-made Indian generator breaks down in perfect timing with the arrival of the homecoming guest.

4. Attack by armed robbers at the residence of the new arrival, followed by a leisurely rape and robbery of all victims found therein, even as the escapees try to summon the police by phone, only to find that the phone is dead, or that even when it works, to be informed by the police that there is either no fuel for the only working patrol vehicle, or that the officer holding the armory keys has returned to his hometown for the New Yam Festival.

5. Surviving or evading the police and armed robber welcoming committee, only to be confronted daily by scores of people sitting patiently outside the new arrival's house, and all claiming to be relatives of the newly arrived "Dollar Man", and all with well rehearsed sob stories of woes that can only be cured with a wad of hard currency.

6. Getting stopped for three hours on what should be a fifteen-minute car ride, because the road is filled with craters big enough to conceal a battle tank, and during that gridlock, to be robbed at knife or gunpoint by roving robbery gangs who specialize in fleecing the occupants of trapped cars.

That's sad, it can't be that bad. I plan on visiting but I just can't get excited about it. Back home I can be anywhere at anytime of the night or day and not worry about nothing but getting a speeding ticket for driving like a nascar driver . "2nd class citizens" lol, those must be illegal immigrants.

goldengoal:
I think that most of you guys are just plain being foolish. What is your problem with a man of God, called and anointed by God, a man that has been mightily and greatly used by God to preach the gospel all over the world and save hundreds of thousand of souls bying a private jet to facilitate the work of ministry.

If Jesus's ministry were to have been in this age, I am VERY sure Jesus would have had over 12 private jets.
It is so unfortunate that many of you guys do not understand God's prosperity plan for HIS people in this end time.

He says through prosperity shall my cities(and i dare say children) be spread abroad.

So if a man of God is doing the work that God sent him and he is doing it dutifully, why shouldn't God bless him with a private jet.

[b]You haven't seen anything yet. Some of us are coming, we are on the way! In our own time,we shall be talking about tens of private jets, not just one.[/b]So if you don't know what to say just shut up and stop judging a man of God .

Lmfao
The brainwashing is  definitely thorough. Does the "man of god" even have a real job or is he going to use your 10% and "sowing in the word" money to acquire the jet

davidylan:
The problem is you want to tell us what we think when you really have no clue.
I don't believe the world is only 6000 years old and there is biblical proof for that . . . oh but don't let facts get in the way of your preconcieved ideas.

As regards my "pointless comments" . . . i happen to think they make a lot of sense because it is very important to disabuse this false notion that being an athiest is synonymous with being a "great thinker" and scientist.

Your questions? Why shld i tackle them? they are simply pointless . . . if you don't believe in God why bother with His book?
You can always read Harry Potter.

You keep dodging, just say you can't explain the bs stories. Harry potter is the same as the bible. Fantastic fairy tales.

davidylan:
and you think we don't know?

y'all think think the bible is the beginning,the middle and the end. And enough with your pointless comments, tackle the questions i posed like the tower of babel fairy tale.

Pretty good article, I like the part where the xtian dude said "did he arise or did he just show up" lol

bindex:
Christains want their God to come down and show himself to the skeptics but so do moslems, they also want Allah to come down and shame all the Christains,Hindus and Jews. Hindus want their Hindu Gods to disgrace all those that do not believe in them by coming down,( I wonder where the Gods are going to come down from). The question is if there is truly a God then why did he not reveal himself to the whole of Humanity? Why did he reveal himself to ancient jews, Arabs, Chinese, Indains and Africans and called them his chosen people? Jews were the chosen ones according to the bible hence God decided to reveal himself unto them, arabs were the chosen people according to the koran infact the koran went as far as declearing arabic the language of Allah. The Indians were the chosen ones according to the hindu Gods and the circle continues.

We have moslems, hindus, buddhist and christains all claiming to have seen or encountered their God or Gods in one form or the other. This to me proves the lack of existence of all of them. The problem is that there is no universal God there has never been and there never will be. Even christains have different conception of who their God is, same with moslems, hindus, buddist etc. The fact that we are here arguing about the existence of God or Gods say alot about God or the Gods. If there really is a God we wont be here arguing about him, her or them. why are we not arguing about the existence of the wind, sun, moon or stars?

Well spoken.

davidylan:
don't you just love it when athiests come here pretending to be highly intelligent scientists who have studied so hard about life?

The way they talk you'd think all christians are high school drop outs.

We don't pretend to be highly intelligent scientists, but y'all always say "ONLY A FOOL SAYS THERE IS NO GOD".  That insult is what y'all always come up with. I'm not saying you're a fool and I'm definitely not one, all I'm saying is there is more to life and this universe than what y'all believe.

[quote author=tonye-t link=topic=208074.msg3235324#msg3235324 date=1229513003]@Dios,

i must confess that i love it when folks like you stand up think and talk rubbish simply because you feel your small mind has pondered alot about life's philosophies and man's existence.

first of all, you are too small to even be replied to by wise men, but i choose to. . . . so that my words will judge you with your vile reasoning on that great day. . . . .if u at least understand what i mean by this!

i will quote some scriptures and explain as the spirit of God grants me permission to


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whether you accept it or not, science even tells you that every thing and i repeat everything has got a BEGINNING! read your science books, now if this fact is true. . . . . early this year on CNN i can seem to trace out the article of an interview between CNN's correspondence with the world 21st century greatest scientist ever still living(an athiest). . . . . and the question went thus:-Sir, if your believe in the alpha(greek word) of beginnings then don't you think there must be some being or power that brought this galaxies, astroids, and planery and substances into existence.

his reply: first i don't believe in God, but i know from my calculations and discoveries of the universe that there [b]must be a light someone which birthed all this stuffs, now what is the light she asked and he replied: some great influence somewhere deeply beyond the farthest of stars and it still controls the earth and all existence till date

she asked further: sir, some religion called the christians believe that there God is described to in the bible as AN UNAPPROACHABLE LIGHT (1timothy 6:16) and he said if they do then i agree with them, and the rest of the discussion went on , but alot is not relevant here in this thread topic

know after hearing this i said to myself, if the world's greatest scientist who is a chronic athiest believes in the existence of a light called unapproachable and says if others believe that light is God then he does too, then only a fool will say there aint any God

@dios, your problem is this

1. your mind and brain is too small and i repeat too small to fathom the existence of the CREATOR of the UNIVERSE, ur thoughts are too small to be reckoned with about God, great men both believers and unbelievers of His existence try not to believe but all confessed openly or secretly either at the prime of their lives or dieing beds

2. God is too multi versatile, and your small mind is only trying to study HIM from one point of direction, that is the true reason for all the religion we have in the world today, because everyone is trying to explain to some group of people about their little understanding about God and thereby having followers for themselves in the name of religions and denominations. . . . . .He can choose to be light and at the same time darkness (1.Tim.6:16, 2chron.6:1) and that is why He can both kill and at the same time Save (isnt that mind puzzling)(1 samuel 2:6)

the only peculiar thing about my faith (christianity) is that you are exhorted to see God in the good perspective and as the bible says "as a man thinks in his heart so it will be" and others take advantage of the dark side and do evil: there can stop rain, raise deads, disappear and do great things like christians do, but their end will only be in hell because yes though they did stuffs through God's might but they did not accept the true light (john 1:9)whom God sent to redeem man from the darkness (john.3:16)and destructive nature of their mind(prov.28:26)

i choose to pause here for now, but to keep a word in you and that is, that when Genesis gave us details of God's creations, there was nevcer a place we saw God created MONEY, POVERTY, SICKNESS, DISEASES, DEATH, FEAR all this things emanated from Man's fall and as i wish you know: "man was made in form of a god, so he too can create, only that he created on the wrong foundations which is " the foundation of SIN"

BE CAREFUL the way you think, lest God might give your innocent mind to reprobation (Romans.1:28) and that is if He hasnt already[/quote]Bla Bla Bla, think outside the box for a minute .That genesis story is ridiculous, god created a man, then he created a woman and supposedly we all descended from these two. Ok, when your god sent cain on exile and put a mark on him so no one who saw would kill him, who was he talking abou?. If we all descended from adam and eve, what people is the bible refering to? And that story actually sound like the evolution of man, you know, man walks around naked and gathers fruits, then he realised he was naked and got himself some animal skins, then starts farming so on and so forth.  

You call me small minded because I  think life is more complex than what the bible tells you. So I guess you're smart because you believe in the most ridiculous story ever told. How about the story of Noah, if he had three sons and we are all supposed to be their descendants, how do you explain our different complexions and physical features. The tower of babel is another funny one, so god just did some abacadabra and made everyone start speaking different languages because they were trying to build a tower to reach the skies and see heaven. I've been on planes and there is no pearly gates up there . The bible was just a jewish attempt to explain the mysteries of the world with the limited knowledge they had.
And that's the whole truth.

dizzywezzy:
yes, he can defend d title but he doesn't have 2 so he doesn't want 2. Jst imagine, if some nigerian start 2 say george bush is not d president of america or vice versa do u think he will come down all d way 2 nigeria jst 2 prove himself when everybody know d truth? it will b a waste of time

Common now, that's a weak arguement. Everybody with a TV knows george boy is the US. president, we are talking about a being that created the universe according to your jewish folklores.  How do you know he/it doesnt want to defend the title, if i was the creator I won't stand by and watch people suffer and deceived all in my name. If I was the creator Africa won't be in shambles. If I was the creator I wouldn't have allowed people to be enslaved and let the slave masters use my book as their moral justification.
YOUR GOD DOESN'T EXIST

Monicaa:
Abeg Dios take am easy, Biko. I'm not judging anyone but have u 4 once sat down 2 think, wait a minute Who made me n if u believe the science shit, who made those things?? I've been in situations like the break up with my boyfriend that i felt so sad that I would doubt if God was really there n hearing me but man! I've never stopped believing that there is God.

I've thought about life, the when, the hows, the whos, the whats, the whys and everything else. i think about these stuff constantly. I have no idea about my conception, or how anything came to be but one thing I'm sure of is that the answer to my questions are not in the bible or quran.
The history of this world is far too long and complex to be broken down in 6000years or so like your religions claim. What irks me the most is that Africans take these two religions and live and die by the words in the bible/quran. Why would a just god choose isreal as his chosen people? I don't want to go on and on about other things that I think about so i'll just leave you with that question.

The crazy story about three wise men following a star. Stars don't move!!!! jesus in a manger it's far too cold in the middle east for that to be possibe. The bible was written years after these things were supposed to have happened. The big part about Africa was the destruction the jewish "god" meted on the Egyptians because the Pharoah of Egypt didn't want to free "his people".

I don't how this world came to be but your god didn't have sh*t to do with it.

But you can always defend the title!!!

Sisi Jinx:
@ Topic
You are supposed to pay your tithes before your mortgage or car loans or school loans or any other loans you need to pay. A lot of people had the same problem, thank Goodness our own pastor had the good sense to bring in a Christian financial expert to help us understand the Principles of Tithing i.e the Hows, Whats and Whens now the problem is slowly becoming a thing of the past.[/size][color=#990000][/color]
Sure, some people are on the verge of losing their homes because they are behind on their payments and their cars are on the repossession list but as long as the church gets their 10%, all is well!

Blessed be the Church with wise pastors.[size=8pt]

Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooowwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww
I'm speechless!!!!!!!!!

Monicaa:
Oh goodness! I didn't expect atheists to respond to this supporting that God doesn't exist, I believe there is God, It's scary that there are actually people esp Nigerians doubting the existence of God n bold n confident about it.

@Dios, who's ass r u going 2 kick out? I hope it aint Baba God n as 4d others even Seun hope u guys have a change of heart through the warming touch of God.

Yea, your god, the god of the jews!!!

And if he did come down, i'ma knock his a$$ out. then go mike tyson on him and bite his ear off( the whole thing)

lol, bigmodo is not in that picture. Bigmodo is crazy. Bigmodo is fake,bigmodo is a jacka$$.
Bigmodo,bigmodo,bigmodo, that's a funny name

DeepZone:
Churches pay their staff nowadays and those that do not receive salary do theirs as a voluntary service while doing something else to bring bacon home. The bible clearly states that pastors should feed fat from sacrifices made unto God just like Ifa priests feed fat from sacrifices made to the shrine.That was a different time. See the depicted pictures of Luke, mattew etc. They wore expensive robes made with baumwolle and moccasin shoes . Andrew was described as a handsome man and I can see a vivid picture where he was walking the red carpet in Jerusalem dressed in Mink. [/color]Besides, there may be other things they bought back in the days for their personal pleasure. A pastor should be a prototype of abundant life and not tattered and wretched for our God is not wretched.

I'm sure you are at least of average intelligence but I can't understand why you would write or think like this!!!!!
First you demonize the yoruba culture then turn around and use it to justify the gluttony of your "men of god".
The depicted pictures of Luke,matthew and andrew are pictures of romans not middle eastern people that your bible is supposed to be about. You said they wore expensive robes made of baumwolle( I don't even know what that is) and moccasin shoes. Native Americans wore mocassins, people from the middle east didn't. You can see a "VIVID PICTURE WHERE HE WAS WALKING THE RED CARPET IN JERUSALEM DRESSED IN MINK[i][/i][color=#990000]" 

You must surely be smoking that good weed or tripping on E' to be able to write all these crazy things. I'm going to stop now because I'm sure there's no way you will come back with a sensible rebuttal

Where is he going to come down from? The clouds? Space? Another planet? Another galaxy?

Nigerians freeing their minds and thinking thoroughly about life is what you consider scary? What's scary is you and your blind faith in something that erased your history and gave you book full of jewish folklores in return.

$7000 for a 1996 car with over 130,000 miles? Are you for real?

Since joseph didn't have sex with mary, mary must be the descendant of david.
Joseph was a gullible fellow, his virgin wife came up pregnant and he didn't raise an eyebrow. If they were married, why was she still a virgin? Did she get f**ked by the the holy spirit before they got married?
Its december, I'm in iraq right now, ain't no way any sane person will give birth in a manger at this time of the year. It gets cold over here for real.

bigmodo:
With a pistol i will show all of you fools offering joke instead ideas the definition of pain, and if you suffer it, then know you would never ever get wet whenever it rains.

LOL, I don't agree with some of the things you said but you're right about arabs/jews.

SirJohn:
They might as well believe in superman, batman, ironman, x-men, voltron and superted
Loads of crap

Let's form VOLTRON!!!!!!!

davidylan:
No problem, i'm used to being insulted by faceless cowards and goons like u . . . nothing new.

Good that you admit your error which was what i pointed out before your usual tirade of immature verbiage.

As regards the "question" . . . please pose it to muslims. History, jewish literature and archeology correctly records abraham's father as Terah.

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My people are well versed in jewish history but completely ignorant about theirs.

;DA bunch of adults arguing about mermaids being real!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Are you people crazy?

After this can someone please tell me if santa is real, the tooth fairy?, unicorns?

Are you people serious? The first black man elected to the most powerful job in the world who can readily trace his roots to Kenya and all you people can do is quote some crazy jew who wrote a fairy tale about 7 headed dragons just so you can name Obama the"ANTI CHRIST".

The worst thing that ever happened to black people is colonization. They took everything and gave y'all the bible, instead of removing the religious cloak placed over your heads so you can see the light and go back to the way the Ancients used to do things with some little tweaks, all y'all do is clutch your bible/quran to your chest and carry on about devils, anti-christs and such!!

WAKE UP ALREADY.

lol, good one.

Ukraine.
Y'all live in an english speaking country and some people will actually relocate to ukraine to study!!!!!!!! Do they teach in english over there and why would anybody want to move to eastern europe anyway?

No he's not. I am.
Smile4Ken!!! no I'm crying4ken.
lol