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Why can't he vote for Sowore he voted for in 2023?

shoodboi2:
The title is misleading. He is not a Tinubu supporter and never said he supports him. He only said he will vote for Tinubu if the party of the person he's arguing with selects Obi as their flag bearer.

Not a very thoughtful statement though because it can be easily mistranslated as it was in this case. But the title is misleading.

If Benin kingdom were strategic, they would have held unto Lagos in a way to this day

omoredia:
When we weigh the historical evidence (oral tradition + documented history + linguistics), the Benin/Edo origin of “Eko” as a “war camp” is considered stronger than the Awori/Yoruba “camp/settlement” version.

Here’s why:


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1. Early Control of Lagos (15th–16th century)

Historical records show that the Benin Kingdom expanded westward during the reign of Oba Orhogbua (mid-1500s).

Benin warriors established a military outpost on Lagos Island to control trade routes and collect tribute.

The Oba of Benin appointed a military administrator (called an “Eletu Odibo”) to govern the area.

This aligns with the interpretation of Eko as a “war camp” in Edo.



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2. Oral History & Naming

Lagos oral tradition (especially from Benin sources) consistently states that the Oba of Benin named the settlement Eko when it became a military camp.

The Yoruba Awori were already living there, but the name “Eko” was imposed through conquest and administration, making it a political name, not just a descriptive one.



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3. Linguistic Strength

In Edo (Bini), Eko indeed directly translates to “camp” or “encampment,” often military in sense.

In Yoruba, ẹ̀kọ́ has meanings like to gather, to learn, or to be trained (also the word for pap/fermented maize meal). But the usage of Eko to mean “settlement” is less direct and less common.

This makes the Edo origin linguistically tighter.



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4. European Accounts

Early Portuguese records from the 15th–16th centuries confirm that the Benin Kingdom was administering Lagos (Eko) before colonial Lagos emerged.

They describe Lagos Island as a tributary state of Benin, not Awori, in terms of political control.



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Conclusion

✅ The Benin (Edo) origin of Eko as “war camp” is better supported by historical, political, and linguistic evidence.
⚖️ The Awori/Yoruba origin reflects the fact that they were the indigenous settlers, but their explanation of Eko as “settlement” is more cultural than historical.

So, historically: “Eko” = war camp (Benin Edo origin).
Culturally: Yoruba still claim it as “our settlement.”.

So anybody that is not Benin and to a lesser extent Awori has no historical or cultural claim to Lagos.

Look at the rubber stamp!
They approved humongous loans for Tinubu while standing on his mandate then come now to whine us.

This current NASS is irresponsible!

Mention any major infrastructure in Lagos that wasn't built with Nigerian resources and that was built before 1914?

Ttalk:
Lagos has been a developed city before the creation of Nigeria.

You are discussing Lagos state today because of its glory, when are you going to remember your village abi your place doesn't worth mentioning

You'll think you're following the right path but you'll learn in due course. A woman is being oppressed in a gathering well dominated by men yet you're joining the men to oppress her? What goes around comes around

janeedema:
I'm sorry I don't share your sentiments. So feel free to call me names.

However, I am a wise woman and would rather allow logic than emotions define me.

We don't fight a rot because it stops favoring us. That's not true activism.

So when I see a woman who is truly fighting for change, she won't need to go to AriseTV before my voice will raise solidly behind her.

Thanks for stopping by.

If PDP do not expel Wike come November convention, Obi will not come to revive the PDP. Their choice!

You read his insightful post but think emotional tribalistic response coupled with delusions of grandeur is what ought to be your strategic countermeasure?

Truth is nothing can stop the slipping of Lagos from the hands of tribal Yorubas because the development that you seek for Lagos means it becomes attractive for all esp when the resources for this development does not come from within

Ttalk:
Hausa is now the linqua franca in Agege? We don hear, we will make the correction in due course, Tinubu is the one delaying our actions, we won't allowed you to contaminate our peace because you are incapable of creating peaceful atmosphere in your region.

FG / President don't issue C of O, even C of O can be revoked at any given time. All lands in Nigeria is under the control of the state government. The indigenous people of the Lagos have been pushed to the wall and the soul and spirits of our forefather have cursed anyone who benefit from Lagos but want it's downfall.
So shall it be

Lagos is strategic because of the ports

Ezewuzie01:
Lagos should watch it. The speed with which Abuja is growing, Lagos may take the passenger's seat in a decade or two.

Its just a matter of time, Lagos would be too expensive for the indigenes and they'll move out. Lagos as a cosmopolitan city will eventually belong to the rich from all nationalities

aswani:
The idiocy is crying over and over again because Ndi Yoruba are changing street names in Ala Yoruba.

Not long ago, Lagos state was sending non Yoruba people tó Abuja, Lagos State State house in Alausa had non Yoruba elected officials.

Now, there is no such variance and openness, yet you are talking about them asserting ownership., they already have.

You that you are buying their property, left right and centre, where is your dominance or how soon will it manifest into numbers, votes and a return to non Yorùbá's in Alausa and Abuja on behalf of Lagos state?

Rest, Lagos State is still Yorubaland.

When we said lets separate Nigeria to Biafra Republic, Oduduwa Republic, Niger Delta Republic, Arewa Republic and Middle Belt Republic, you refused insisting on one Nigeria.

Don't you know what one Nigeria means?

MaziObinnaokija:
this is why i like Hausa pipu..Dem don't ho to anoda person land and drag am.They are so proud of their states. Some of them bears the names of their local government area.E.g,in Kebbi,people bears Koko Besse,yauri,Argugun,Sakaba,suru,Zuru etc..


Must go and constitute nuisance in anoda person land ? IPOBIDIENTS RONU

What is the business of Ekiti, Isun, Oyo, Ondo and Ogun with Lagos Colony?

How much did these Yoruba states spend to develop Lagos?

Evelyn88:
Continue hiding under a Yoruba name. But, this is me being genuinely curious, why the hate towards your fathers' land?
Why do you guys despise the Southeast this much?

Lagos was built with Nigerian resources and as such Lagos belongs to all Nigerians equally

Evelyn88:
Who in Nigeria dares to call Kano a no-man’s-land? Who would ever stand in Anambra or Enugu and say the land belongs to everyone? The answer is clear, nobody. Because the owners would never tolerate it. Yet, when it comes to Lagos, some feel bold enough to erase history and downplay Yoruba identity.

Let it be known: Lagos is Yoruba land. It was founded, nurtured, and grown by the Yoruba people long before it became the bustling economic hub of Nigeria. Hospitality does not mean dispossession. Tolerance is not weakness.

Now, let’s ask a simple question: who abandons his father’s building, only to start boasting that he is developing another man’s house? Is that wisdom, or confusion? If truly you are builders, why not build your ancestral homeland into the pride of Africa? Why not pour that self-acclaimed “development mindset” into the land of your fathers, where your roots, history, and heritage are buried?

Instead, some prefer to scatter across the country, shouting about how they are the ones “developing Lagos.” But the irony is bitter: no man abandons his father’s land and then claims ownership of another man’s. If your land cannot hold your dreams, then perhaps the real question should be directed at your leaders, why have they failed to make your home habitable?

The truth is simple. If Lagos were truly a no-man’s-land, nobody would fight so hard to lay claim to it. People only scramble for what belongs to someone. Lagos belongs to the Yoruba. Others may live, trade, and prosper here, as guests, as residents, as fellow Nigerians, but never as landlords rewriting history.

It is time for the Southeast to rise to its responsibility. Make your homeland attractive. Build your own cities. Develop your own states. Show the same energy in Aba, Onitsha, and Enugu that you claim in Lagos. That way, your children will not have to roam other people’s lands to prove their worth.

Hospitality is not inheritance. Lagos is Yoruba land, welcoming, yes, but never ownerless.

Action and reaction are equal and opposite

DomPerignon:
Ibos attacking other peoples culinary diets?

When we quote Basden for them now they will be crying.

A major nationality should not wait for minorities before they can speak!

osuofia2:
Why must it be an Igbo person replying Reno. There are over 600 ethnic group in Nigeria but it's just an Igbo person that replied Reno.

Tilumbu came to steal, k1ll and destroy.

Even if you give Tilumbu 30yrs, nothing will work said by Tilumbu's aide

Stop being mischievous, nobody said any politician is a saint. We only say Obi is better than the rest.

As for El Rufai, if he is working against our enemies, then we can work together, doesn't mean we cloak him with sainthood

John4B:
How this man became saint overnight surprises me. Politicians, trust them at ur own peril.

They should take Sowore to court if what Sowore said is false

Watianoengineer:
Very good. People disrespect President Tinubu too much just because of his leniency.

Monarchy of criminality!
What a shame!

Complete the remaining words

I have nothing to say.

Let people who have something to say complete the number of words

Niger state is the size of SW

sreamsense:
I laughed in 3D! First, you agreed Oyo is of the same size as the five south east; you never raised argument or raise data to counter it. Good of you for accepting that fact.

Now, your major problem is now on conflict of thought, you compared yourself with small size Lagos, but you all five states put together never have riches of Lagos or close to it. Oyo is not directly or indirectly feeding small Lagos, but Oyo is indirectly feeding your entire five states in term of remittance from her own excess profits to balance your own deficits. You don't even need to drag abroad to this, not to expose your weaknesses; it is not by size, yes; we agree only for the small states that are richer than the big one in question.

You better go and check the population census of Oyo state in case you forgot, Oyo is always number 3 in term of population before Kaduna. Oyo is not responsible for ipob/ESN that drive people away from Alaigbo for your low population, hope you know?

Who is his father? Stop beating around the bush

wowcatty:
We know president Tinubu’s father and mother to be 100% Yoruba that qualifies him as an authentic son of Yoruba. President Tinubu comes from unmessed with, unfooled around blood.

Then tell us who was his father, where their family house is, his state of origin, his primary and secondary school? The full name of bola..is it Abimbola or Bolaji or what cos bola is not a stand-alone name

wowcatty:
I don’t know why I have to answer this everyday.
Yes, Tinubu is Yoruba, his ancestry is clear.

Is Tinubu Yoruba? Do you know his ancestry?

wowcatty:
Why is it that at any given time at least 3 or 4 out of 6 governors of Yorubaland are not Yoruba?
I know it’s by design, but how is it ok with us?
Whose idea is it that Yoruba states will not have governors that are born of Yoruba and raised Yoruba?

So what is Tinubu doing with the money since he is not defending the naira because he is borrowing more than past leaders combined

Goodvibes007:
Past leaders from 1999 spent a total of $388 Billion defending the Naira. Reno is absolutely right.

The devil in this case is Amoda Sangodele

TheBillyonaire:
Can we stop blaming the Devil for Nigeria's challenges ?

Even the Devil is too kind compared to Nigeria's political office holders.

El Rufai had it coming.
When Northern elders were warning you regarding Tinubu, you questioned their 'eldership' but now the chicken is coming home to roost.
Even though you knew about his certificate forgery and also aware he never won the election. El Rufai had it coming alright

For someone that never won the presidential election but was rigged in by shutting down IREV!

What a fraud!

Provide evidence where he said he will not contest in 2015 and stop hiding

femi4:
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There should be 100% state resource control with zero allocation from the center, lets see who will asked for state creation afterwards

malali:
What exactly is the criteria for demanding statehood?

If someone insists that Ibadan should be made a state, shouldn’t he face the public in a proper press conference to explain why?

Look at America:
• Texas is so massive you can drive 24 hours across it and still be in the same state.
• Some U.S. states even stretch across multiple time zones.

Yet, they’re not breaking themselves up into little fragments every time someone feels entitled.

Meanwhile, here, every small local government with three roundabouts wants to crown itself a “state.” For what? Prestige? More political appointments? Access to federal allocation?

This constant agitation for micro-states is unserious. Real states are built around economic viability, infrastructure, and governance capacity, not just sentiment.

Until someone can define the hard criteria, population size, GDP output, landmass, resources, this noise about turning every LGA into a state is nothing but a distraction.

You guys always attack the people fighting on your behalf.

Why are you defending the thieving lawmakers?

atobs4real:
I want to ask
Is baba OBJ the one who introduced it or while in office, did the law makers enjoy such in his time of ruling?

Nobody has provided this evidence

femi4:
Move on...you first betrayed pdp when you refused to honour your agreement of doing only one term. You successfully divided pdp