16 Therefore let no one pass judgment on you in questions of food and drink or with regard to a festival or a new moon or a sabbath.
Colossians 2:16

Christmas is our festival to celebrate Christ, don't pass judgement on us

Hail Mary full of grace the lord is with you
Ethiopian orthodox venerate Mary

Rome has spoken
The case is closed
This is the faith of the Church
This is the faith of the fathers
Anathema to those who do otherwise

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U ll try to teach someone but they prefer ignorance.
Oya perish in ur ignorance

Ochoiho:


One day you'll know what Satan has done to you and the entire Catholic Church. I hope that time come before it is too late

Satan and his Cohorts like u have always tried to trample the Catholic church. But the gates of hell will never prevail
Repent and Reject Satan and all his evil antics or u ll burn in hell

Ochoiho:


This your bogus claim wouldn't take you anywhere. Please think about eternity and give your life to christ

My life belongs to Christ. Stop being an agent of the devil, swallow your pride and return to the mother Church

Catholic church is the mother church
The one true church of Christ
Proof is its 2000yr history
She birthed the Canon of the Christian Bible
U r a Christian because of her
She is the true bride if Christ
The gates of hell ll never prevail over her

Ochoiho:


Am so sorry for you people. Solomon included an image of a cherubim in the temple according to the pattern for the sanctuary as shown to Moses by God on the mountain
Acts 7:44 Our fathers had the tabernacle of the testimony with them in the wilderness. It was constructed exactly as God had directed Moses, according to the pattern he had seen.
Exodus 37:6-8"He made the atonement cover of pure gold—two and a half cubits long and a cubit and a half wide. 7 Then he made two cherubim out of hammered gold at the ends of the cover. 8 He made one cherub on one end and the second cherub on the other; at the two ends he made them of one piece with the cover'.
God gave the above specification for building His Sanctuary, Moses and Solomon followed this specific instruction to include the image of the Cherubim above the Mercy Seat. Apart from that of the Cherubim, which other Image did Solomon included in the Temple? Can you also show me where the children of Israel where seen 'honouring' the Image of the Cherubim included in the Temple.
Is it that you people lack basic understanding or the church only look out for what to hold unto to commit this terrible Idolatry sin before God?

You that is reading this, there is still opportunity for you to repent. Please think about this with an open mind, come out of Catholic before its too late for you. Dont said its my church, all church belong to Jesus but Catholic belongs to the Devil.

Satan is playing ping pong with ur brain

We ll continue to honor her. If u call it idolatry its ur own headache not ours

saintmark88:


Now he is not only a heretic, he has put himself in the place of God to Judge by calling me an idol worshipper. Iam not surprised even Jesus was called names, pple like him will have called Jesus a drunk, a glutton, a false teacher because he is no better than the pharisees who tink they know but they know nothing.

I asked him to show me were in the Bible it is said that the holy spirit lives in us wen we sin, he cannot, he quoted something that doesn't relate to his point, asking me to cool down and allow it to be ministered to me, Show me were u saw that the holy spirit lives in us wen we sin...oga!!!.....if u cannot, u r a ignorant fellow like I said bfre.

C who's talking about pride, I asked u to prove ur statement, u still have not been able to.......who's too proud to accept that there's nowhere in the bible that says the holy spirit still abides in us wen he sin.....accept u made that up

My brother don't mind him, he has grandiose delusion

solite3:
if Mary was saved by the merit of her son it means Mary was a sinner just like any other sinner, it means Mary had merit then why do you catholic give her the merits that is not hers

Jesus was conceived by the power of the holy Spirit not the natural conception, Mary had no hand or role in it.

Luke 1:28 And the angel came in unto her, and said, Hail, thou that art highly favoured, the Lord is with thee: blessed art thou among women.

Mary's favour was that she gave birth to the messiah not because she merit it but because God just chose to.
Mary had no special quality that made God chose her, she was just like any other woman.
She was not holy neither was she righteous but God just chose her, now that is called favour.
But that didn't qualify her for heaven except she become born again she could not see the kingdom of God.

IF MARY COULD NOT SAVE HERSELF WHY DO YOU THINK SHE CAN SAVE ANYONE.

She co operated with God by accepting to bear Jesus despite the troubles the pregnancy will bring her.
She also suffered with Jesus as The Prophet Simeon prophesied

34 and Simeon blessed them and said to Mary his mother, "Behold, this child is set for the fall and rising of many in Israel, and for a sign that is spoken against
Luke 2:34

35 (and a sword will pierce through your own soul also), that thoughts out of many hearts may be revealed."
Luke 2:35

A sword will Pierce through your own soul ALSO. Meaning she ll suffer with her son even though its his death that will save the world.
Nobody has claimed Mary is divine . its only ur wrong judgement
And Yes God saved Mary from sinning. She was Sinless
reason why she sayed my soul rejoice in God my Saviour( past tense)

analize701:

Where is my lie?

U quoted me as saying
God prepared a body for us.
Show me where I said that

It is clearly stated that God prepared a body for Jesus. I never said us. Jesus was God before the incarnation. As God he can't dwell in an impure body, to protect his body God must have to protect his mother who is a seed of Adam. This God achieved throughout the immaculate conception of Mary. Mary' s ovum already saved from the sin of Adam and unstained by it was fertilized miraculously by the holy spirit thus Jesus was conceived
As it is said in scriptures' A virgin shall conceive and bear a son' notice the key word is conceive. And conception is the fertilization of an ovum. It did not just say a virgin shall bear a son. That ll be surrogacy
Thus Mary's DNA is in Christ and she is a seed of Adam which makes Christ the seed of Adam too.

analize701:

In a bit to give Mary divinity, you just missused the Scriptures.

It didn't say, a body you have prepared for us. He said 'a body you have prepared for ME'.

The question shd be, what does that mean? What body is Christ talking about? Why did He need a body to be prepared for Him?

Jesus was a Spirit, in all of the Old Testament, he was there (Altho he wasnt called Jesus), but when it was time for Him to come down here, when he needed to come into the realm of the flesh for an assignment, then YHWH prepared Him a body just like every other body, a house for the spirit.

The reason Jesus needed our kind of body is so that He can have blood to shed. Again, He needed to live on earth going through all the temptation man undergoes and overcomes, so that man won't accuse God of demanding from Man the impossible.

Mary didn't need a body to be prepared for her, because she had a body already.

So, pls when you quote Scriptures know that scriptures have rhema.

So you broke it by trying to make that scripture mean what you want.

In a bid to prove ur point u LIED that I misused the scriptures when clearly u are d guilty one

Dnaz:
5 Consequently, when Christ came into the world, He said, "Sacrifices and offerings thou hast not desired, but a body hast thou prepared for me;
Hebrews 10:5

Here it says God prepared a body for Jesus
Mary was part of that preparation.
For God cannot dwell nor inherit a sinful body

This is what I quoted there was no US its clearly Hebrew 10:5

bencr7:
Oga na she is favour no b full of grace o! I know catholics go talk say na dem give us bible, hw person go give us book where contradict their believe, practice and religion.

Queen of heaven were dey call Mary na pagan goddess (Jer 7:18), Mary were they say na ever virgin get other children (Mat 12:46-50,13:55,Luk 8:19-20,Jn 2:12,mk 6:3 diz one na even sister), Mary were dey say na intercessor but na Jesus christ be our intercessor (Heb 7:25,Rom 8:34) Mary was sinless see angel was trouble or fear (Luk 1:29-30) nw wetin bring trouble or fear to diz world know be sin.
The Mary we honor is the Mother of Jesus, we don't know Semiramis, our hearts don't think of Semiramis and God knows our hearts.
It is u who blasphem the Mother of the Lord as Semiramis that is commuting heresy and u ll answer for it before Christ on the last day. U ll tell him the link between his mother and Semiramis and why your heart conjure evils to dishonor her

In dec10 1925 Mary visited Lucia with baby jesus up in d cloud! Nw hw Jesus was born as a baby,grow up like a man,die as a grown up man, resurrected and went to heaven fully grow spirit nw become baby again and talk to lucia VERY BIG JOKE AND VERY FUNNY even small pigin go laugh for diz one. .

The Mary we honor is the Mother of Jesus, we don't know Semiramis, our hearts don't think of Semiramis and God knows our hearts.
It is u who blasphem the Mother of the Lord as Semiramis that is commuting heresy and u ll answer for it before Christ on the last day. U ll tell him the link between his mother and Semiramis and why your heart conjure evils to dishonor her

bencr7:
Oga na she is favour no b full of grace o! I know catholics go talk say na dem give us bible, hw person go give us book where contradict their believe, practice and religion.

Queen of heaven were dey call Mary na pagan goddess (Jer 7:18), Mary were they say na ever virgin get other children (Mat 12:46-50,13:55,Luk 8:19-20,Jn 2:12,mk 6:3 diz one na even sister), Mary were dey say na intercessor but na Jesus christ be our intercessor (Heb 7:25,Rom 8:34) Mary was sinless see angel was trouble or fear (Luk 1:29-30) nw wetin bring trouble or fear to diz world know be sin.

In dec10 1925 Mary visited Lucia with baby jesus up in d cloud! Nw hw Jesus was born as a baby,grow up like a man,die as a grown up man, resurrected and went to heaven fully grow spirit nw become baby again and talk to lucia VERY BIG JOKE AND VERY FUNNY even small pigin go laugh for diz one. .

I wonder how u ppl try to limit Jesus, he is God , he can appear to you today in form Of a beggar, your grandfather anything. Stop this myopic claim that he ascended as an adult and cannot transform into a baby

bencr7:
Oga na she is favour no b full of grace o! I know catholics go talk say na dem give us bible, hw person go give us book where contradict their believe, practice and religion.

Queen of heaven were dey call Mary na pagan goddess (Jer 7:18), Mary were they say na ever virgin get other children (Mat 12:46-50,13:55,Luk 8:19-20,Jn 2:12,mk 6:3 diz one na even sister), Mary were dey say na intercessor but na Jesus christ be our intercessor (Heb 7:25,Rom 8:34) Mary was sinless see angel was trouble or fear (Luk 1:29-30) nw wetin bring trouble or fear to diz world know be sin.

In dec10 1925 Mary visited Lucia with baby jesus up in d cloud! Nw hw Jesus was born as a baby,grow up like a man,die as a grown up man, resurrected and went to heaven fully grow spirit nw become baby again and talk to lucia VERY BIG JOKE AND VERY FUNNY even small pigin go laugh for diz one. .

What is grace? It means Unmerited Favour so whether u say favour or grace its d same thing. She was perfected in Gods favour

ichuka:
Luke1:35
And the angel answered and said unto her, The Holy Ghost shall come upon thee, and the power of the Highest shall overshadow thee: therefore also that "HOLY"thing which shall be born of thee shall be called the Son of God.
The only "HOLY THING" in her was Christ!!!
Nothing more!!
Guys,comprehend.

Holy thing to dwell in a dirty body?
How will it remain Holy?
MARY WAS PURE AND SINLESS whether it pains u or not
U can't change it.
Stop arguing about things that are beyond you

analize701:

Wow. This is right out of context.

No everything is in context
How did God prepare a body for Jesus?

bloodofthelamb:


Christ Jesus was and is never part of the fallen seed of Adam. Christ is the second and last Adam.

Jesus the Prince of peace, is the seed and life of GOD made flesh in the womb of virgin Mary.

So Jesus is not a descendant of David?
Meaning God lied

bloodofthelamb:
The scripture says through one Man(Adam) all sinned... Through one Man offence all( including Mary) have sinned.

Mary is included because she was the seed of Adam

Jesus too is the seed of Adam

bloodofthelamb:


Why did Jesus came into the world through a virgin birth? if having a biogical Father does not mean anything.

Sin is passed down from Father to sons and daughters, and not from Mother to sons and daughters.

Stop yarning opata
Original sin is contracted from the woman


6 Behold, I was brought forth in iniquity, and in sin did my mother conceive me.
Psalms 51:6

candelahria:
Jesus got his DNA from Mary?It's stated clearly that Jesus was conceived of the Holy Spirit. Human intermingling of chromosomes has nothing to do with this. Luke 1:35.

It was Mary who Conceived Jesus of the Holy spirit
Her egg was fertilized not with a human sperm but by the holy spirit
Or do u want to believe she is not his biological mother? Fear God

candelahria:
Jesus got his DNA from Mary?It's stated clearly that Jesus was conceived of the Holy Spirit. Human intermingling of chromosomes has nothing to do with this. Luke 1:35.

His human DNA is from Mary. Period
Unless u believe he is not human which ll be heresy
How do u think, he was a descendant of David?
Or did God lie to David?

Jesse01:
whatever u believe is right who am I to judge

Thank u

Jesse01:
but one was done by a miracle while d latter was done by man

Yes just like it was a Miracle that Mary was prevented from sinning because of her important role in our salvation

Jesse01:
dis guy dis guy, Jesus birth was by miracle according to Christians (which am not) while d other was done Medical, hw are dey d xame

In both instances a penis did not enter a vagina

Jesse01:
Jesus was not convince thorough sex so dat makes him perfect.

Cristiano Ronaldo Jnr was not conceived through sex
So that makes him perfect?

Jesse01:
I have so many points, Mary is a sinner just like every other human dat walk d earth, jesus was perfect not dat Mary was sinless, but he(Jesus) came in to dis World without d Normal procedure, dat is sex which involved a man and a woman according to Ancient times, u can take dat to d bank.

So Jesus got his human nature from sinful Mary?
Jesus was conceived in a sinful body?

fellowman:
why did she need to offer an atonement according to Old Testament Law (Lev. 12:1-8 ) after giving birth to Jesus ? According to the Old Testament, it was only the mother who needed purifying after a birth because of the issue of blood. She was ritually unclean. If she had a male child, the days of her period of uncleanness was seven days, then the child was circumcised, then she remained unclean for 33 days (v. 4)--for a total of 40 days. If she bore a female child, her period of uncleanness would be 14 days plus 66 days for a total of 80 days. Notice in Leviticus 12:2 it says if she bears a male child, she shall be unclean for seven days. If Mary was sinless, how could she also be unclean?

Luke 2 vs 21-24 says


a And when the days for their purification according to the law of Moses were completed, they brought Him up to Jerusalem to present Him to the Lord

23 (as it is written in the Law of the Lord, “ a EVERY firstborn MALE THAT OPENS THE WOMB SHALL BE CALLED HOLY TO THE LORD”),

24 and to offer a sacrifice according to what was said in the Law of the Lord, “ a A PAIR OF TURTLEDOVES OR TWO YOUNG PIGEONS.”

MARY WAS A SINNER

Mary was sinless u are yarning opata
Was Jesus not purified too?
Does it mean he was a sinner?

5 Consequently, when Christ came into the world, He said, "Sacrifices and offerings thou hast not desired, but a body hast thou prepared for me;
Hebrews 10:5

Here it says God prepared a body for Jesus
Mary was part of that preparation.
For God cannot dwell nor inherit a sinful body