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But even if that farewell meeting had included the celebration of Christ’s suffering and death, it would not lend any credence to Sunday observance. We have seen from Acts 2 that bread was broken daily, and nowhere is the Lord’s Supper linked to any particular day. It is surely obvious to anyone that the Troas meeting was not a regular weekly worship service. The importance of that all-night session appears in the miraculous raising of the young man Eutychus, and in the fact that Paul would never see them again before his death. The particular time frame—all Saturday night—has no spiritual significance whatsoever. Luke, the careful historian, does not even record any of the content of Paul’s marathon sermon, although he faithfully documents the miracle of the resurrected youth. Apparently, it was the way Eutychus dropped out of church, and not the day on which it happened that Luke is seeking to establish.

They had stayed with the ship as it sailed around the peninsula on Saturday night, after the Sabbath was over.

That long journey on foot by Paul the next day would have been very inappropriate on any kind of holy day. Some have equated the breaking of bread with the communion service, but such a view cannot be supported from the Scriptures. Luke assures us that those early Christians broke bread daily. “And they, continuing daily with one accord in the temple, and breaking bread from house to house, did eat their meat with gladness and
singleness of heart” (Acts 2:46).

The Bible cannot confirm the contention that Paul celebrated the Lord’s Supper with the believers in the upper room. The wording seems to indicate that it was a common meal they shared together. “When he therefore was come up again, and had broken bread, and eaten…” (Acts 20:11). Here we find that eating was associated with the breaking of bread. It is unlikely that the communion meal would be referred to in this manner.

Incidentally, Paul’s missionary companions, including Luke, who chronicled the highlights of the carefully scheduled voyage, manned this boat. It is very significant that they would not go out to sea until the Sabbath was over on Saturday night. Toiling at the oars and sails would have been no more proper for a holy day than Paul’s twenty-mile walk across the isthmus on Sunday morning. Neither Paul nor his fellow travelers would have indulged in those secular activities on God’s holy Sabbath.

[size=14]Why Eutychus Dropped Out of Church[/size]

The New English Bible actually states that the meeting was held on Saturday night. The chief focus of the story seems to be upon the raising of Eutychus from the dead after he fell out the window. The dauntless Paul, after ministering on Sabbath and all night Saturday night, walked twenty miles on Sunday morning to join his companions in Assos.

In Nehemiah, we are given another description of the beginning of Sabbath. “And it came to pass, that when the gates of Jerusalem began to be dark before the sabbath, I commanded that the gates should be shut, and charged that they should not be opened till after the sabbath” (Nehemiah 13:19). This definitely places the first moments of the Sabbath at sunset, when it is beginning to be dark.

Now we are ready to apply this sound Bible principle to the first-day meeting of Paul in Troas. The night setting would require that it be held on Saturday night. The Sabbath ended at sundown, and the first day of the week began. Paul, who had stayed a full seven days so that he could be with the people over the Sabbath, decided not to leave with the ship on Saturday night. Instead, he fellowshipped all night long with the believers and then walked twenty miles across the peninsula on Sunday morning to join the boat at Assos.

In other words, the evening always comes first in the day.

This explains why the Sabbath is described in these words, “It shall be unto you a sabbath of rest, ... from even unto even, shall ye celebrate
your sabbath” (Leviticus 23:32). But when does the evening begin according to the Bible? “And at
even, when the sun did set, they brought unto
him all that were diseased, and them that were possessed with devils” (Mark 1:32). Since the Pharisees taught that it was wrong to heal on the Sabbath, the people waited until the Sabbath was over before bringing their sick to Jesus. Therefore, they brought them “at even, when the sun did set.” Moses wrote, “Thou shalt sacrifice the passover at even, at the going down of the sun” (Deuteronomy 16:6).

And we went before to ship, and
sailed unto Assos, there intending to take in Paul: for so had he appointed, minding himself to go afoot” (Acts 20:6–13). There are some very unusual things about this all-night meeting in Troas. First, it had to be a solemn, poignant occasion for the speaker and congregation, as well. In verse 25 Paul declared, “And now, behold, I know that ye all, among whom I have gone preaching the kingdom of God, shall see my face no more.” It is obvious that this farewell meeting was held on the dark part of the first day of the week. There were lights in the room, and Paul preached until midnight. It is important to understand the Jewish way of reckoning time.

Days were not counted according to the pagan Roman method, from midnight to midnight. In the Bible, the day begins at evening. Genesis describes all the days of creation week in the same way—“The evening and the morning were the first day … the evening and the morning were the second day,” etc.

The full context reveals that it was a night meeting. “And we sailed away from Philippi after the days of unleavened bread, and came unto them to Troas in five days; where we abode seven days. In addition, upon the first day of the week, when the disciples came together to break bread, Paul preached unto them, ready to depart on the morrow; and continued his speech until midnight. And there were many lights in the upper chamber, where they were gathered together. And there sat in a window a certain young man named Eutychus, being fallen into a deep sleep: … and fell down from the third loft, and was taken up dead. And Paul went down, and fell on him, and embracing him said, Trouble not yourselves; for his life is in him. When he therefore was come up again, and had broken bread, and eaten, and talked a long while, even till break of day, so he departed. And they brought the young man alive, and were not a little comforted. And we went before to ship, and sailed unto Assos, there intending to

In Luke’s history of the early church, he describes the dramatic farewell meeting, which Paul had with the believers in Troas. Those who grasp for any tiny excuse to justify their disobedience of God’s commandments have grievously distorted this account in the book of Acts. Because it is the only record in the New Testament of a religious meeting being held on the first day of the week, we should examine it with special care and interest.

If there is no sin where there is no law, it follows then that there was a Law which Lucifer broke in Heaven.

And that was the 10 Commandments!

The first command enjoins us to not have any other god before Jehovah. Lucifer exalted himself in his heart above GOD.

The 10 command enjoins us to not covet anything that belongs to our neighbor. Lucifer coveted Christ's position.

"Sin the transgression of the law." 1 Jn. 3:4.

Dear brothers and sisters, if you continue transgressing GOD's law even when it has been shown to you that it is eternal and cannot be done away with, you really aren't doing GOD's will!

I believe it is logical to believe in reality. Reality has been defined to include everything that is and has been, whether or not it is observable or comprehensible.

Based on these premises, I assert that belief in a conscious Watchman who looks over every of our activities is logically not out of place.

MrPRevailer:
Thank God for your conversion. May I correct an impression.
Your no.2 Concerning Homosexual. God is clear that such persons practising these are abominable and wicked and shall never inherit the kingdom of God. Except they repent of course.

The bible is also clear that no sinner shall inherit the kingdom of God. Rev 21:8.

All what you said is true. However, GOD does not hate homosexuals. He died for them too. He loves them and He is willing to help them overcome their sinful lifestyle.

GoodMuyis:
Dont Worry DoctorAlien the prediction on signature will come to pass for some of them, if they are still alive

I sincerely hope that all of them will be in the first group.

SalomonKane:
Dude, are you chemically imbalance or are you just trying to sound so fucking_ dumb?

Haven't I answered this puerile question of yours? When I asked you a question, did you answer?

Instead you chose to revel in blatantly exclaiming "I'm an atheist" as if that answers the question I asked.

Argumentum ad hominem.

Bro, bye.

SalomonKane:
Give me one reason why God should destroy the ones you don't like?.

Hian!

Aren't you arguing for the OP again?

GOD should intervene and stop unreasonable men from raping children, right?

Why should He not intervene and stop you the next time you're about to fornicate or go to night club?

SalomonKane:
And have you answered my question?

This here is a hypocritical christian, who wear the garment of christianity just to feel among and sin.

Thank you for showing yourself.

Give me one reason why GOD should prevent only the things you consider sin.

SalomonKane:
God shouldn't intervene because to me, fornication isn't a sin!. Understand? I fuck_ willingly and joyfully.

Beside, I don't look up to a sky daddy to do for me what I can do for myself.

This is a typical atheist, in whom there is no guile.

Thank you for cracking me up.

SalomonKane:
If God didn't intervene when Kabiru Sokoto bombed churches in the north, do you expect him to intervene when a father rapes a 2 year old girl?

It's either you didn't get my question or you're carefully trying to shift the goalpost.

Why should GOD not intervene the next time you're about to fornicate or do anything He hates, but intervene when an unreasonable man is about to rape a child?

SalomonKane:
He doesn't need to intervene, rather he should intervene whenever the people who claim to follow him owe their workers 6 months salary and Bleep their female staff just because they can.

If GOD should not intervene the next time you're about to fornicate, why should He intervene when a rapist is about to rape a child?

SalomonKane:
This allegory is one of the many reasons why I abandoned my Christian path. I still fail to understand why an all powerful God will do absolutely nothing when bad things happen to people.

Should GOD also intervene and stop you the next time you're about to fornicate, look at a woman lustfully, or do that thing that you know that the Bible condemns?

otem4eartum:
Now you're realising that satan(yahweh) has really held this world backward. However, Satan(Yahweh) or God, none of them is responsible for longevity of lives. Check that fact, any day, anytime.

Satan is Lucifer, please.

If you don't agree, don't mention me again.

otem4eartum:
You can consider 40 years of age as old age for all I care, and I will still give you names of people (very serious Christians) who died below that age.

Even if I consider 5 years of age old as old age, there were innocent people who died below that age.

GOD blesses people with old age. Good people also get their lives cut short, because we live in a sin-cursed, Satan-held world. Jesus told us that we will have tribulation in this world. We are happy to follow Jesus, even if it means yielding our lives.

otemanuduno:
Here are the stages of life... Childhood, teen, adulthood and old age. The longest of them is old age. If you reach the old age, then you have lived a long life.
Therefore, long life is living up to old age.

I'm expecting you to ask what is old age too

For what it's worth, 40 years of age can be considered old age.

So, how many years of age is the minimum, world standard of old age?

otemanuduno:
[s]So in other word, all those who died young did not honour their father and mother? I have seen tens of people who died prematurely, yet they honoured their fathers and mother. Try defend that.

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You aren't that good at constructing a strawman. Answer the question I asked you: what is long life?

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This reminds me of the quote of Faulkin millions of years ago when he was closely watched and asked again to perform miracles as he claimed he could do. Faulkin made this statement, same way Dionysus(Zeusus) the son of Zeus did in his own time.

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Sorry, we are not talking fairytales here.

otemanuduno:
Here is where your god(Satan) promised his worshippers long life. Psalm 91:16
With long life I will satisfy him and show him my salvation."
2. Refer to the apostles.
What are the conditions, Pls?
But since the arrival of camera phones, why hasn't yahweh(Satan) grown the leg of an amputee?
Wealth is deceitful? How does that sound in your ears?

What is long life?

"Honour your father and your mother, that it may be well with thee in the land which the Lord thy GOD giveth thee." Promises come with conditions, okay? You cannot live in disobedience to GOD and expect Him to shower His blessings abundantly on you.

It's not as if you would repent if you saw an amputee healed. "An evil and adulterous generation seeketh after a sign; and there shall no sign be given to it, but the sign of the prophet Jonas" Matt. 12:39

"Take heed, and beware of covetousness, for a man's life consisteth not in the abundance of things which he possesseth." Luk 12:15

If you ask a typical atheist, "what is evil?" They'll begin "suffering, hunger, pain, rape, murder, hiv/aids, diseases, global warming."

Yet the atheist will never agree that homosexuality, lesbianism, fornication, defamation of GOD, masturbation, alcohol consumption, smoking, and use of filthy words are all evil.

It becomes very clear that when the atheist says "GOD shouldn't allow evil", he means GOD should remove all the things that cause him pain but leave him to continue in rebellion against Him.

Perfect logic.

NZAGHA:
Following

The food don done...

(Pidgin english shaa.)

Cc: Seun

Praise tha LORD!

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[size=14]Here’s My View on Religion That Might Surprise You[/size]

So after you read this article, you might be surprised to learn that I actually do think that religion is evil.

I’ve established in point number one above, that Christianity is not a religion, but a relationship with God.

With that in mind, I believe that any religion that keeps you away from coming into a relationship with the true and living God is evil. That’s because [size=14]"The best thing that can ever happen to you is to become a child of GOD by putting your faith in Jesus"[/size]

Anything that stands in your way of your relationship with God is in my opinion, evil.

All religions that preach that there is some other way to heaven other than through Jesus, is wrong.

So that’s my two cents, or actually more than just two, about this whole topic of religion being evil, and Christianity being evil.

God, in His mercy, gave these nations many chances to repent. When they didn’t, God executed His judgment on them by using the nation of Israel to destroy them.

If there were as few as ten people who weren’t guilty of practicing such terrible things, then God would have probably spared the entire nation.

Just read the story of Lot, and how God would have spared the entire city from destruction if Abraham found as few as ten people who were innocent.

Furthermore, we know that the Bible says this about God:

[size=16]He is the Rock, His work is perfect; For all His ways are justice, A God of truth and without injustice; Righteous and upright is He. -Deuteronomy 32:4[/size]

I could talk about this last point in a
separate blog post of it’s own, but I
decided to keep it short. Any questions, please feel to post them in the comments.

5. God isn’t into Genocide

Some people have a problem with the God of the Bible because they say that He ordered genocide.

If you’re not familiar with what genocide is, it’s the killing of a large group of people, especially those of a particular ethnic group or nation.

Atheists use this objection to say that God is a murderer because He ordered the killing of innocent women, children, and animals in the Bible.

The Bible does record that God ordered the killing of the Ammonites, the Hittites, the Amorites, and several other nations.

But here is what people fail to see when it comes to this objection:

None of these people were innocent. In fact, they were excessively wicked.

Imagine mothers who burned their own children in order to sacrifice them as offerings to fake idols. What does such a mother deserve?

This is just one thing on a list of hideous crimes that these wicked nations committed.