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dblackninja:
Do you know what is gene mutation? Do you know what causes dna codes to re-write & change? Answer the questions in the 2nd paragraph & find out for yourself if dna emanated from that alleged designer.

This thread will not be derailed. Please, answer the riddle or look the other side.

Thank you.

dblackninja:
I wanted to give you a detailed answer but looking at the fact that you're a copycat and probably know nothing about science, I will just ask you this:

Is the designer you're talking about also the designer of gene mutations (permanent alteration in the DNA sequence that makes up a gene). How & why does it occur? Is he/it/she there to guide these changes in codes that forms a totally different dna segment?

If yes what can you say about this designer-- An experimental designer or a bad designer??

Brother, please answer the riddle. Leave story

Hello, Atheist Friends. Good day. In my search for truth, I found this riddle by Perry Marshall. Can you solve it?

1) DNA is not merely a molecule with a pattern; it is a code, a language, and an information storage mechanism.

2) All codes are created by a conscious mind; there is no natural process known to science that creates coded information.

3) Therefore DNA was designed by a mind. If you can provide an empirical example of a code or language that occurs naturally, you’ve toppled my proof. All you need is one.

Thank you.

Cc: Seun, donffd.

You can try to solve this one

donnffd:
Dude, you havent actually read anything about Evolution by Natural selection, because if you have, you would not sprout such things like "a frog suddenly turned into a snake" and the painful part of it is that you dont want to learn about it because you have already made up your mind.

So i guess more grace to your elbows, but i do advice you, when you are in an intellectual gathering, don't say what you just said, because 99% of the people there would just laugh at you.

Just like I'm laughing at your credulity?

How atheists and skeptics and infidels dig into the Bible in search of non-existent loopholes:

Hahn,

Your ignorance of the Bible and its teachings is contagious. I know you don't know what "theocracy" means. Even in secular states, criminals are executed for certain crimes.

Anyway, please show me where the Bible allows humans to take life of their own freewill.

Evolutionist, Dr. Lyall Watson:

“The fossils that decorate our family tree are so scarce that there are still more scientists than specimens. The remarkable fact is that all of the physical evidence we have for human evolution can still be placed, with room to spare, inside a single coffin!”

Seun,

You said scientists have a good record of saying the truth.(LOL) In 2007, fishermen caught a very rare creature known as a Coelacanth. Evolutionists originally told us that this “living fossil” had gone extinct 70 million years ago. It turns out that they were only off by 70 million years. See the link here: [url]news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/6925784.stm[/url]

Perhaps, the most famous fossil in the history of the theory of evolution, "Piltdown Man", turned out to be a giant hoax. See the link: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piltdown_Man

Chai! LOL I laugh at the way "scientists" deceive these gullible atheists.

Cc: donffd

Said one evolutionist:

“Even with DNA sequence data, we have no direct access to the processes of evolution, so objective reconstruction of the vanished past can be achieved only by creative imagination.”

Is this not hypocrisy?

Seun, donffd and other atheists, please click on this link: [url]creation.mobi/evolution-ancient-pagan-idea[/url] to see the connection between evolution and ancient paganism.

Evolutionist, Steven J. Gould of Harvard University:

“Every paleontologist knows that most species don’t change. That’s bothersome….brings terrible distress. ….They may get a little bigger or bumpier but they remain the same species and that’s not due to imperfection and gaps but stasis. And yet this remarkable stasis has generally been ignored as no data. If they don’t change, its not evolution so you don’t talk about it.”

Another classic from Richard Dawkins, a major prophet of evolution:

“It is as though they [fossils] were just planted there, without any evolutionary history. Needless to say this appearance of sudden planting has delighted creationists. Both schools of thought (Punctuationists and Gradualists) despise so-called scientific creationists equally, and both agree that the major gaps are real, that they are true imperfections in the fossil record. The only alternative explanation of the sudden appearance of so many complex animal types in the Cambrian era is divine creation and both reject this alternative.”

Nobody has ever observed macroevolution take place in the laboratory or in nature. In other words, nobody has ever observed one kind of creature turn into another kind of creature. The entire theory of evolution is based on blind faith.

So much for claiming that they deal with facts and not faith.

Cc: Seun, donffd.

More quotes from Charles Darwin, the founder of your religion:

“Lastly, looking not to any one time, but to all time, if my theory be true, numberless intermediate varieties, linking closely together all the species of the same group, must assuredly have existed. But, as by this theory, innumerable transitional forms must have existed, why do we not find them embedded in countless numbers in the crust of the earth?”

donffd,

Now let's be honest: which makes more sense to you? That a frog suddenly turned into a snake or that an intelligent Creator designed both creatures? GOD created, and I would tell you from the top of my head.

Don't tell me fishes turned into amphibians and amphibians turned into reptiles and all that, and then conclude by telling me "it makes sense." It makes absolutely no sense.

In trying to prove evolution, scientists have come up with many "most-similars" to humans. When it comes to DNA, banana is the most similar to man. When it comes to another criterion, another thing becomes the most similar to man. Aren't they confused?

"Scientists" have to keep publishing new lies, you know, so that faith in their senseless religion called "Evolution" won't die.

You can as well educate yourself on that link I gave to your colleague, Seun.

Ubenedictus:
I actually checked the source some are non existent, the others were qouted out of context, many werent said by pope. and in all the right document written by pope, the pope always calls Jesus redeemer, saviour and GOD and always note that he is only a representative.

Okay. Continue.

Seun, please educate yourself here, and stop telling me "scientists said..."
www.nairaland.com/3340702/how-evolution-flunked-science-test

Seun,

Charles Darwin, the founder of your religion, Evolution, confessed that "the belief (note the emphasis on belief) in natural selection (evolution) must at present be grounded entirely on general considerations. ... When we descend to details,we can prove that no one species has changed ... nor can we prove that the supposed changes are beneficial, which is the groundwork of the theory."

Seun,

For the records, I'm not a catholic and I don't believe the catholic church is a Christian organization: it's a pagan one actually. I'm not an Anglican, either.

I'm a Bible-believing Christian. Don't bring the activities of the catholic church into this. Even the Bible knows the earth is spherical, but the Catholic church chose to teach otherwise.

Seun,

The scientific community has a good track record of telling the truth.

Really? The same scientific community that said Natural Selection drives evolution, only to be proved wrong? Evolution itself is a scam. Ask any scientist to comprehensively prove evolution to you and watch him begin to stammer.

Scientists who question evolution aren't considered real because their theory isn't based on reality.

Really? Hahaha Please who determines real and unreal scientists? You? Don't be ridiculous. Is the theory of evolution based on reality? Prove it.

adoyi8:
like it or not Mark Zuckerberg is an atheist (the militant atheist co-founder of wikipedia did not ascribe that to him against his will). He doesnt need to go about bashing religion but his open admittance of atheism has already done a lot of damages to religion. A theist that has ever had a brain should think, if it takes your God and my tithe to succeed, how comes Mark is successful as an atheist? if Oyedepo's claim that he was able to acquire his wealth by the help of his God, does that not mean that his God is smaller than Mark Zuckerberg's (who is way richer than him). People like Mark has done damage to religion by proving that you dont God to succeed, in fact you dont need God at all.

Hahahahahaha I laugh at the ignorance displayed in this quote.

Brother, Satan can give wealth too, okay? Money is not the end. Money is not our goal in Christianity. The devilish and demonic love of money is the root of all the evil you see today.

Ubenedictus:
DOCTORALIEN i still havent seen a single pope who claim to be God, all u presented are jumbled up quotes of ALLEGDED writtings that talk about the pope.

Did you bother to check the sources provided after the quotes? Or you simply blindly stated the above?

Seun,

The link you provided, with the post in it is very funny. The link is supposedly talking about the "failed" prophecies of Jesus.

I laugh at the ignorance and credulity you displayed by bringing up that post. You do not know Bible prophecies, neither does the site owner. I don't blame you, anyway. Reading the Bible with a prejudiced mind makes it look as if there are contradictions in the Bible. Jesus correctly predicted the destruction of Jerusalem, but also interwoven into that prophecy is the last day events - I mean things happening right now around you.

It seems that for you, anything against Christianity is true. LOL. Study to show yourself approved. I'll help you, to the best of my ability, with any thing you don't understand in the Bible.

Seun:
Many people don't have the time to study evolution in depth. For such people, it makes sense to simply accept it because scientists accept it.

Who are scientists? People who can't lie? Evolution looks more like a cooked-up fairytale than a science theory.

Maybe it's about time you started reading for yourself and stopped believing "scientists." To swallow everything they feed you hook, line and sinker is simply being credulous.

It may interest you to know that scientists are seriously divided over evolution. So, who are you those you call "scientists"?

raphieMontella:
funny! Heard of game theory?

Yes. What does it have to contribute to the topic?

adoyi8:
Anyways I agree that Christians can see obvious truths and still bend them. My point is that your God tells his people to Kill so people can kill because they are christians. Atheism doesnt tell people to kill other people.

So this is your honest interpretation of the Bible? Where does GOD tell Christians to kill? Chai! No wonder you're an atheist. Why won't you be an atheist when you can't even read correct and plausible meaning into statements?

How atheists read the Bible just to find non-existent loopholes:

adoyi8:
Thanks for the correction

according to the bible the curse Elisha placed on them caused the bears to devour them so he is responsible for their death

You don't know the content of the curse. The Bible doesn't say, "And Elisha said, "let two she-bears come out and devour you.'" He may have said "may you never be useful in life."(I'm assuming).

GOD commanded respect for elders and parents because treating them with disrespect can attract curses and destruction.

GOD simply punished the lads by means of the two female bears.

adoyi8:
This is from 2 kings 2:23 "Then he went up from there to Bethel; and as he was going up by the way, young lads came out from the city and mocked him and said to him, "Go up, you baldhead; go up, you baldhead!" 24 When he looked behind him and saw them, he cursed them in the name of the LORD. Then two female bears came out of the woods and tore up forty-two lads of their number. "

in the verses above God didnt command Elijah to kill the Children. Elijah did it of his own free will and then God Endorsed it

I really don't know if prejudice didn't allow you to notice it was Elisha and not Elijah.

Anyways, Elisha did not kill the children. Elisha cursed the children. We don't know the content of the curse.

GOD simply visited punishment on those young lads. They broke the 5th commandment which says "Honour your father and your mother..." This same honour goes to elders, the least of which is not a prophet of GOD.

adoyi8:
well you asked me to show you where the bible endorse killings because you believed it was impossible but i did, wont you at least commend me for opening your eyes to some things you never knew were in the bible?

Yes, I believed it was impossible and you have proved that it is impossible to find a place in the Bible where GOD permitted humans to take life of their own freewill.

I commend your ignorance of Bible teachings. It's very very astonishing.

adoyi8:
read first samuel chapter 15 verse 2
"This is what the Lord Almighty says: ‘I will punish the Amalekites for what they did to Israel when they waylaid them as they came up from Egypt. 3 Now go, attack the Amalekites and totally destroy[a] all that belongs to them. Do not spare them; put to death men and women, children and infants, cattle and sheep, camels and donkeys." is this enough?

Yes. It's enough proof that GOD alone has the authority to take life, and by any means He wants: whether by humans or by His own hand.

He is the sole Sovereign of the whole universe. He gave life. He takes it. He created me. He created you.

It is of His mercies that you're still alive.

chiddyok:
Read your old testament properly.

This what I got from reading my old testament properly: "Thou shalt not kill." Exod. 20:13.

Can you point out where the Bible negates this command?

adoyi8:
The Bible also has a good record of people that kill and accords respect to them. The bible endorses killing but atheism doesnt. The only connection i have with anybody that calls himself an atheist is the fact that we dont believe in God. any crime he commits and the punishment he receives for it is his own cup of tea. why do you leave out other Good atheists like Alan Turing etc he spent their lives serving humanity

Show us where the Bible endorses killing.