Christianity Etc › Re: Every Religious People Pls Answer This Question by DoctorAlien(m): 7:20pm On Oct 02, 2016 |
D34lw4p: according to that verse(Psalm 139:16), every thing happening around the world has been pre-planned by him. He created everyone and has planned what each of them will do in life, since it's his will there's no way they can go against it because he claimed he is the All-Knowing and The Most Powerful. Who are we to hold responsible for Evil when you god also said he created "evil"? That is not what Psa. 139:16 is saying. The world as it is right now, disfigured and marred by sin and rebellion, is not going the way GOD planned it. To find out GOD's original plan, go to Genesis 1 and 2. GOD doesn't plan what people will do in life. GOD did not plan for Stalin to murder millions of people. GOD has given man instructions on how to live. He can choose to obey GOD, he can choose to disobey. But each comes with a consequence. Psa. 139 as a whole is talking about how GOD knows man in and out, thoroughly, even more than man knows himself. GOD is omniscient. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Every Religious People Pls Answer This Question by DoctorAlien(m): 7:15pm On Oct 02, 2016 |
johnydon22: Blackmail/Abuse is no less disturbing and nonsensical even if your mother/father plays it.
Doesn't matter who does it Blackmail is still blackmail...
Besides doesn't it seem a bit weird that a whole creator of a vast cosmos relates to almost inexistent humans in such a childish way?
Shouldn't an omniscient entity know a less disturbing, monsterous, evil way to do that? I'm sorry but nobody is tryna blackmail you. No. GOD loves us so much. We can't fully understand how much He loves us. Some people reject His love anyway. But living in the presence of sin is enough torture for those who love GOD. That is why GOD will delete sin and sinners from existence so that those who love Him will finally live in peace. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Every Religious People Pls Answer This Question by DoctorAlien(m): 7:11pm On Oct 02, 2016 |
D34lw4p: very good! Did you understand the meaning of that verse? Yes. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Every Religious People Pls Answer This Question by DoctorAlien(m): 7:10pm On Oct 02, 2016 |
Lennycool:
and the bolded sounds like something a loving father would do? Kill the bad child? A father may disown a child if he continues in unrepentant rebellion. For GOD to continue to tolerate sin and sinners forever, it means that creation will continue to sigh and groan under the burden of sin forever. That is unacceptable |
Christianity Etc › Re: Every Religious People Pls Answer This Question by DoctorAlien(m): 7:07pm On Oct 02, 2016 |
D34lw4p: Pls quote from Psalm 139:16. Thanks. "Thine eyes did see my substance, yet being unperfect; and in thy book all my members were written, which in continuance were fashioned, when as yet there was none of them." Psa. 139:6. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Every Religious People Pls Answer This Question by DoctorAlien(m): 6:57pm On Oct 02, 2016 |
Demigods666: Ahahahah
Thought he is the all powerful why didn't he just restore sanity?
Your god Na goat my guy, person wen kill him own so called son for una , lmao, shows how cruel.
He can't do without blood and earthly money.
He needs your own money to give you money

Just imagine this, before you give your son money, shey be you ask him to first give you first?  Okay. Bye. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Every Religious People Pls Answer This Question by DoctorAlien(m): 6:56pm On Oct 02, 2016 |
D34lw4p: Are you a christian? Yes, by GOD's grace. A Bible-believing Christian. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Every Religious People Pls Answer This Question by DoctorAlien(m): 6:51pm On Oct 02, 2016 |
johnydon22: I don't understand this - So you offer someone a kind of salvation and then threaten to torture them if they reject it?
That's blackmail not salvation. We are talking about the Person that Created you here. He created even this earth, and the whole Universe. He wants to rid creation of sin and sinners, so that sanity will be restored to creation. Sinners here are those who refuse to repent and obey the One who created them. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Every Religious People Pls Answer This Question by DoctorAlien(m): 6:49pm On Oct 02, 2016 |
Lennycool: So when your child rebels against you, a loving father will torture him or her for eternity?? Not 100 years or a thousand or a billion years. ETERNITY When my child rebels against me, I proceed to correct him. I can't torture anybody. Moreover, nobody will burn in hell fire for eternity. GOD will simply destroy sinners with fire and blot them out from existence. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Every Religious People Pls Answer This Question by DoctorAlien(m): 6:43pm On Oct 02, 2016 |
D34lw4p: that doesn't give an answer to my question abeg! What is your question?  |
Christianity Etc › Re: Every Religious People Pls Answer This Question by DoctorAlien(m): 6:41pm On Oct 02, 2016 |
D34lw4p: Can you torture your child with fire because they failed to obey you? I know your answer will be yes. But your god that created you and knew so well that you're imperfect said he will punish you in a lake of fire because 2 people were deceived to eat an Apple!
That sound stupid to me! You won't be punished in hell because two people ate an apple. You'll be punished because you lived your life in rebellion to GOD, rejecting His salvation. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Again... Watchtower Dabbles Into Occultism, Using Occultism Symphony. by DoctorAlien(m): 6:13pm On Oct 02, 2016 |
Hmm...
All I can say is "open your eyes people!" |
Christianity Etc › Re: The Wrong Way To Be An Atheist by DoctorAlien(m): 6:03pm On Oct 02, 2016 |
plaetton: Give yourself a standing ovation .

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Christianity Etc › Re: The Wrong Way To Be An Atheist by DoctorAlien(m): 5:41pm On Oct 02, 2016 |
DeSepiero: By saying "we" in your reply, you believe that you fall into the category of people I'm referring to right?
Nice! Good job.
When next we argue, if I have a verifiable fact which you didn't know a priori, I'll call your attention to it, and vice versa because I'd like to learn new stuff. agreed?  You could have been included in that "we", you know... So, you mean that for this argument, there is no verifiable fact which we didn't know? Hmm. That's a bonus to us. Agreed. |
Christianity Etc › Re: The Wrong Way To Be An Atheist by DoctorAlien(m): 5:26pm On Oct 02, 2016 |
plaetton: Lol.
I doubt that you did. Sorry, that' nobody's fault but your own shortcomings. In fact, your statements alone show that it's beyond your grasp, because you're still thinking in magical terms like , Jesus turning water into wine and 5 fishes and loaves multiplying to feed thousands. This is your problem. I spotted about two or more logical fallacies in this post: 1. Argumentum ad hominem 2. Appeal to ridicule (Horse Laugh). |
Christianity Etc › Re: The Wrong Way To Be An Atheist by DoctorAlien(m): 5:22pm On Oct 02, 2016 |
plaetton: I have no obligations to do so. You can start with Google, and then find a public library. This is the information age.
Atheists on the other hand, read the Bible thoroughly, in fact , much more thoroughly than Christians, before we come here to repudiate stone age myths.
Infact, reading the Bible thoroughly is the gateway to agnosticism and atheism. Is that the reason why I always expose the ignorance of atheists in Bible matters?
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Christianity Etc › Re: The Wrong Way To Be An Atheist by DoctorAlien(m): 5:12pm On Oct 02, 2016 |
DeSepiero: It's childish when some folks here argue just to protect their beliefs while rejecting or ignoring verifiable facts which they don't know prior to the argument. Produce the verifiable facts which we didn't know before now. |
Christianity Etc › Re: The Wrong Way To Be An Atheist by DoctorAlien(m): 4:54pm On Oct 02, 2016 |
plaetton: Let's be honest, most people on this religious section who question evolution are being who didn't or who barely finished biology in secondary school. Besides, even Nigerian teachers and lecturers frown at the theory of evolution. So I don't blame most Nigerians. It's the poor quality of the system.
Sure, you have the right to ask questions. But the answers are already in the public domains. The religious section is the best place to learn everything about evolution and the theory of evolution.
Now, I said that if you are sincere, not just arguing for religious sake, grab a book on evolution and try to understand. I've read many books on evolution, but I've not understood how a bacteria can change into a worm. Please explain to me. |
Christianity Etc › Re: The Wrong Way To Be An Atheist by DoctorAlien(m): 4:51pm On Oct 02, 2016 |
mank1234: Lol. When you ask pertinent question on evolution, they shift the burden of proof to you or call the question useless; but they demand you to proof the existence of God, even when it is evident in nature. Why do animals evolve in pairs ( male and female)? I honestly would have expected the predators to outwit the first man to evolve in the survival game! Oh bro! Don't hit these atheists with too much logic. Please. This level of logic you're trying to bring in here will expose their baseless assertions with ruthlessness. |
Christianity Etc › Re: The Wrong Way To Be An Atheist by DoctorAlien(m): 4:45pm On Oct 02, 2016 |
plaetton: He has no views, except peddling the science conspiracy theories he has known for in this forum. This is not his first time.
I am pained because Africans, as a people, already have far too much shyt up their brains, with very little room for scientific curiosity. This educated guy ,working hard to reinforce the African aversion to scientific curiosity is nauseating, to say the least. He has a view. He's of the opinion that Higg's boson is a hoax, and that with substantial evidence. Please speak for yourself. I am an African, and by GOD's grace, I can say I am mentally sound. I am a scientist too. No. He hates being deceived in the name of science. |
Christianity Etc › Re: The Bible Exactly predicted it by DoctorAlien(op): 4:42pm On Oct 02, 2016 |
analice107,  That is the traditional view of rapture: GOD will take some home, those that remain will begin to be tormented by a beast and then they will get salvation with their own blood. LOL. Even when the Bible clearly teaches that only the blood of Jesus can save. Don't worry, I'll still explain some things to you(by GOD's grace) in subsequent threads. |
Christianity Etc › Re: The Wrong Way To Be An Atheist by DoctorAlien(m): 4:33pm On Oct 02, 2016 |
plaetton: The facts are rather simple. If you , as a rational whatever you call yourself, is convinced that the highs bosson is a hoax perpetrated by the assembly of world renowned physicists, then do the world a favor by exposing them WITH YOUR OWN EXPERIMENTS or at the least, a theory or model.
The religious section is already full of science deniers. We don't need a smart fella like you to add to what is already a big mess. Are you stylishly begging him to support your views? |
Christianity Etc › Re: The Wrong Way To Be An Atheist by DoctorAlien(m): 4:28pm On Oct 02, 2016 |
DeSepiero: Excuse me young man.
In my opinion, I made it clear that 'jealousy' as an emotional concept can be determined in an individual through such methods of inquiry as psychological examination and well drafted questionnaires by qualified experts (e.g Psychologists). If you must know, I'm a molecular biologist and not a psychologist. I gave you a befitting answer from my understanding. Should I teach you psychology as a biologist?
If you disagree with my opinion or hold a different opinion, state it categorically or provide contrary evidence, and stop asking unnecessary questions.
Thank you Okay. I'll continue searching to see if there's any scientist who can experimentally determine whether an individual contains jealousy, and in what amount. Thanks for your time. |
Christianity Etc › Re: The Wrong Way To Be An Atheist by DoctorAlien(m): 4:19pm On Oct 02, 2016 |
KingEbukasBlog: Did you witness or observe this happening ? Can I see pictures of the primordial soup ?
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Christianity Etc › Re: Confusion?: Atheists Disassociating Themselves from the Bigotry of New Atheism by DoctorAlien(m): 4:14pm On Oct 02, 2016 |
raphieMontella: this bible was given to you by catholics... Wrong. The Catholic church wanted to hide the Bible from me at all costs. But GOD graciously brought the Bible to me by the hands of heroes like Wycliffe and Luther and Tyndale. |
Christianity Etc › Re: The Bible Exactly predicted it by DoctorAlien(op): 4:07pm On Oct 02, 2016 |
It is also pertinent to note that the Jews ceased to be GOD's special people after Jesus Christ. The Jews are no longer a focal point in this cosmic battle, even though some false believe. |
Christianity Etc › Re: The Wrong Way To Be An Atheist by DoctorAlien(m): 4:05pm On Oct 02, 2016 |
The fact that GOD is the sole Creator and Sustainer of the Universe is irrespective, even, of my own belief.
If I became an atheist today(GOD forbid), that cannot change the fact that GOD exists. It'll simply make me one of those that deny the truth. |
Christianity Etc › Re: The Wrong Way To Be An Atheist by DoctorAlien(m): 4:02pm On Oct 02, 2016 |
plaetton: Laughing out loud. 
The Flying Spaghetti Monster( FSM) is the sole creator and sustainer of the universe.
Is that the absolute Truth or not ? Pls tell us why not.
Mathematics , the relationships between everything in the universe, provided us with truth. That's why scientific rationalism is itself anchored on mathematics and mathematical relationships.
You see , my Friend, you are contradicting yourself here without even being aware that you are.
In one mouth you say that truth is truth, irrespective of beliefs and acceptance. And then in another mouth, you're pushing and promoting your personal beliefs, personal faith, as the Truth, without any mathematical proofs of god and his mathematical relationships with the universe. Look and trace carefully. There is no contradiction in my posts. |
Christianity Etc › Re: The Bible Exactly predicted it by DoctorAlien(op): 4:01pm On Oct 02, 2016 |
analice107,
I'll equally open a thread on the abomination of desolation, and we'll look into the Bible to see what it is.
The Bible is its own concordance, and it doesn't leave us to be misguided. |
Christianity Etc › Re: The Bible Exactly predicted it by DoctorAlien(op): 3:59pm On Oct 02, 2016 |
analice107: Let me ask you, at what point will he turn to attack the nation of Israel before God rescues them?
It begins like this... When he comes, he will side with the Jews, without knowing his motive, the Jews will trust him.Antichristelp them rebuild their Temple by interceding between the Nation of Israel with the Arab League. The daily sacrifices will resume.
At the end of his 3 and half years reign, he shall sacrifice a Pig in the Holy Temple, (This will be the Abomination that causes desolation) its at this point that he will declare Himself God at the Jewish Temple. The Jews will revolt, he will rise with full force to crush them, but God will rescue them.
The Gentle dispensation closes with the Rapture of the church, and the Dispensation for the Jews opens in the middle of the Antichrists' reign. At this point, the Jews will embrace Christ completely. Hahaha. The abomination that causes desolation is not the sacrifice of pigs.  |
Christianity Etc › Re: The Wrong Way To Be An Atheist by DoctorAlien(m): 3:49pm On Oct 02, 2016 |
DeSepiero: I repeat "You can consult a Psychologist" to know how he'd determine jealousy in a child or an unwilling individual. I am not trained to conduct psychological tests and analyses.
My point is "It's possible to determine Jealousy in an individual". LOL. Is a psychologist a skeptical empiricist? You still have not shown me how jealousy (and possibly the amount) in an individual can be determined by a scientific experiment, maybe in a lab. |
Christianity Etc › Re: The Wrong Way To Be An Atheist by DoctorAlien(m): 3:45pm On Oct 02, 2016 |
plaetton: Daahhhh. What about religious beliefs, the very subject we are talking about ?
Christians, under pressure, tell me that even though they can't see God, they Feel his presence, his guidance, his love. They say all these because they have ACCEPTED a stone age book of myths as Truth.
Therefore, to correct you Sir, religious Truths are WHOLELY dependent on ACCEPTANCE of curtain BELIEFS. That's why it is called FAITH. Daahhhh !! GOD is the sole Creator and Sustainer of the Universe. This is the truth. It is independent of human emotion and acceptance. Men have seen GOD - Jesus Christ. This is the truth. It is independent of human emotion/acceptance. Truth is independent of human emotion and acceptance. That you refuse to accept the truth does not make it a lie. |