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"The same intelligent scientists whose theories are responsible for all the comforts we enjoy in the modern world, have told us..." -Argumentum ad verecundiam. This is a fallacy.

Actually, scientists have come to agree that Natural Selection cannot be the driving force behind evolution. This is because the driving force behind Natural Selection has to be mutation, and all known (albeit very rare) cases of mutation have proved fatal and destructive to the mutant individual. Thus, mutation brings extermination instead of development in species.

Maybe y'all atheists need to read more and think with your head and for yourselves, and stop committing the fallacy of appeal to authority/accomplishment.

Atheists now try to appear more ridiculous by questioning the complexity of the universe. Imagine the fellow above asking "what is complex? what is simple?"

Will atheists also say the concept of complexity is subjective? Will they also say that the universe appears complex to some and not complex to others? If it be so, then human judgment/reasoning is not to be trusted in the search for truth, because what appears incredible to one may appear plausible to another. And so, atheists shouldn't even be sure that they are on the right part to finding truth by being atheists.

The delusion is strong. I'm watching these atheists deceiving themselves like

CoolUsername:
They're talking about separation of church and state.

The abominable union of church and state is what brought about the beast/antichrist. You know nothing about the Bible or prophecy, neither do you know anything about separation of church and state.

The founding fathers of USA, who were mostly protestants, wanted a nation in which the church is separate from the state. They knew that the abominable union of church and state not only corrupts the church, but it also turns the state into an agent of terror at the beck and call of the corrupt church. And so concerned Christians should be the ones saying "separate church and state" because that union is an abomination.

GOD is not the president of USA. GOD is not involved in that abominable union of church and state(Read the Bible and understand), and so it very clear that those clamoring for GOD(which they say does not exist) to be impeached really need to go for mental check-up.

Okoh1,

Good day brother. Greetings to you and all the faithful in the Name of Jesus Christ.

Yours is a very good question. You see, you don't expect the devil to be honest with you. Even when it appears he is saying the truth, we know that his aim is to deceive and mislead. The Bible calls the devil a murderer from the beginning, and the father of lies(Jn. 8:44). If you went to Satan to hear his own side of the story, be sure he'll deny ever challenging GOD. He might even say GOD just cast him out for no reason. But we know our GOD is a GOD of Justice.

The devil daily denies being guilty of treason in Heaven. Haven't you heard satanists trying to tell you how good and innocent Satan is, and how evil and unjust GOD is? The fact that there exist voices today who assert GOD is unjust goes to show you that Satan is trying everything possible to malign GOD.

That incident happened before the Creation. Remember, "...and the earth was without form and void." Gen. 1:2.

GOD bless you.

raphieMontella:
did he heal one or two?

Two.

Please, how do you want us to impeach something you said does not exist?

According to atheists, "GOD does not exist."

But they want Him impeached...

You know it...

Papist:
I only see this quote on anti-catholic websites. Have you read the actual book? If so can you provide the context or give more quotes from the same page?

I pray the veil covering your eyes will be lifted one day and you will see the difference between the worship of GOD and the worship of Satan.

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"For the invisible things of Him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even His eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:" Rom. 1:20

It's amazing that GOD graciously inserted some of His attributes in His creation, so that by studying creation, man can get a better understanding of GOD's nature and divine mysteries.

The Bible predicted all these:

"Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God." 2 Thess. 2:4

"And he shall speak great words against the Most High, and shall wear out the saints of the Most High, and think to change times and laws..." Dan. 7:25

The Pope is not only the representative of Jesus Christ,he is Jesus Christ himself, hidden under the veil of flesh."Catholic National July 1895.

"We hold upon this earth the place of God Almighty" ...Pope Leo XIII Encyclical Letter of June 20, 1894, "For thou art theshepherd, thou art the physician, thou art the director, thou art the husbandman, finally thou art another God on earth." Labbe and Cossart's "History of the Councils." Vol. XIV, col. 109

The title "Lord God the Pope" is found within a gloss of Extravagantes of Pope John XXII, title 14, chapter 4,

In an Antwerp edition of the Extravagantes, the words,"Dominum Deum Nostrum Papam" (Our Lord God the Pope) can be found in column 153. In a Paris edition, they are found in column 140.

"The supreme teacher in the Church is the Roman Pontiff. Union of minds, therefore, requires (...)
complete submission and obedience of will to the Church and to the Roman Pontiff, as to God Himself."-Leo VIII, «On the Chief Duties of Christians as Citizens», Encyclical letter, 1890

"God separates those whom the Roman Pontiff, who exercises the functions,not of mere man, but of the true God (...) dissolves, not by human but ratherby divine authority." -Decretals of Gregory IX», Book 1, Chapter 7.3

"Hence the Pope is crowned with a triple crown,as king of heaven and of earth and of the lower regions (infernorum)."-Lucius Ferraris, «Prompta Bibliotheca», 1763, Volume VI, 'Papa II', p.26)

Can you imagine?


Writers on the Canon Law say, "The Pope and God are the same, so he has all power in heaven and earth."-BarclayCap. XXVII, p. 218.Cities Petrus Bertrandus, Pius V. -CardinalCusa supports his statement.

-Pope Nicholas I declared that "the appellation of God had been confirmed by Constantine on the Pope, who, being God, cannot be judged by man." - LabbIX Dist.: 96 Can. 7,Satis evidentur, Decret GratianPrimer Para.

"...the Pope is as it wereGod on earth, sole sovereign of the faithful of Christ, chief of kings, having plenitude of power."Lucius Ferraris, in "Prompta Bibliotheca Canonica, Juridica, Moralis, Theologica, Ascetica, Polemica, Rubristica, Historica", Volume V, article on "Papa, Article II", titled "Concerning the extent of Papal dignity, authority, or dominion and infallibility", #1, 5, 13-15, 18, published in Petit-Montrouge (Paris) by J. P. Migne, 1858 edition.

"The Pope takes the place of Jesus Christ on earth...by divine right the Pope has supreme and full power in faith, in morals over each and every pastor and his flock.He is the true vicar, the head of the entire church, the father and teacher of all Christians. He is theinfallible ruler, the founder of dogmas, theauthor of and the judge of councils; the universal ruler of truth, thearbiter of the world, thesupreme judge of heaven and earth, thejudge of all, being judged by no one,God himself on earth." Quoted in the New York Catechism.

Ubenedictus, can you see your pope blaspheming GOD?

The Pope is of so great dignity, and so exalted that he isnot a mere man, but as it were God. and the vicar of God."-Ferraris Ecclesiastical dictionary

"All names which in the Scriptures are applied to Christ, by virtue of which it is established that He is over the church,all the same names are applied to the Pope."- On the Authority of the Councils, book 2, chapter 17

"The Pope and God are the same, so he has all power in Heaven and earth."Pope Pius V, quoted in Barclay, Chapter XXVII, p. 218, "Cities Petrus Bertanous".

These words appeared in the Roman Canon Law:

"To believe thatour Lord God the Pope has not the power to decree as he is decreed, is to be deemed heretical.-I?ithe Gloss "Extravagantes" o.f Pope John XXII Cum inter,Tit. XIV, Cap. IV. Ad Callem Sexti Decretalium, Paris, 1685. (See actual document here) -

Father A. Pereira says: "It is quite certain that Popes have never approved or rejected this title 'Lord God the Pope,' for the passage in the gloss referred to appears in the edition of the Canon Law published in Rome in 1580 by Gregory XIII."

Look at a mere mortal claiming to be GOD

"The leader of the Catholic church is defined by the faith as the Vicar of Jesus Christ (and is accepted as such by believers).The Pope is considered the man on earth who takes the place of the Second Person of the omnipotent God of the Trinity."(John Paul II, Crossing the Threshold of Hope, p. 3, 1994).

Papist,

I don't have any of Lucii Ferraris' works in english. However, I believe you can quickly use Google Translate to translate whatever material written in Latin into English.

Papist:
You are a hopeless case...consumed with hatred.

She is not a hopeless case for saying the truth. The Catholic Church, which is Babylon the Great, the Mother of Harlots, is drunk with the blood of the saints which she killed during the dark ages.

Very soon, the waters of Babylon will be dried(Jer. 51:36) and destruction will come upon Babylon. GOD will visit justice on that abominable system with all her unrepentant followers.

yorhmienerd:
What's happening

I'm the one bro. I writing.

May GOD help us never to be deceived. Amen

Cc: analice107

I'll still talk about the beast fully and how he is identified in another thread.

As we have noticed, the Bible clearly teaches that Jesus Christ will come the second time in glorious majesty to take His redeemed home with Him. It will be a personal, visible, and earthshaking event that everyone alive will know about. The righteous will be caught up to meet the Lord in the air (1 Thessalonians 4: 17), whereas the wicked will be slain by the brightness of that coming (2 Thessalonians 2:8 ). Let us carefully study our Bibles that we will not be deceived concerning this most important and wonderful hope, the second coming of Jesus.

ENDNOTES

1 Reverend Joseph Tanner, Daniel and the Revelation, pp. 16,17. (See also L. E. Froom, The Prophetic Faith of Our Fathers, Vol 2, Review and Herald Publishing Association, 1950, pp. 484-510.)

2 Dave MacPherson, The Incredible Cover-Up, Logos International, 1975, Omega Publications, Medford, OR.

When Jesus comes the second time, He carries "in his hand a sharp sickle" (Revelation 14:14). This is the reaping time after sixty centuries of the sowing of the seeds of sin. This is the harvest time, and "the harvest is the end of the world" (Matthew 13:39). "And he that sat on the cloud thrust in his sickle on the earth; and the earth was reaped" (Revelation 14:16). Truly did Jeremiah say, "The harvest is past ... and we are not saved" (Jeremiah 8:20). There can be no saving after the reaping of earth's harvest at the coming of Christ.

When Jesus and His holy angels appear, then "before him shall be gathered all nations" (Matthew 25:32). There will only be two classes in that great company. The destiny of each has been set by what he did before the coming of Christ. Let us stand firm on the Word of God alone and reject these man made, man pleasing ideas that form the bulk of the whole secret rapture theory.

The Second Chance

Finally, the secret rapturists claim that during the tribulation those not raptured will be given another chance to be saved. Let it be categorically stated that nowhere does Scripture speak of a second chance, nor does the Bible anywhere speak of people being saved after Jesus comes. This is just another manmade doctrine that is indeed pleasing to the carnal heart of man. Actually, the Bible teaches the opposite. Notice these clear texts of Scripture:

2 Corinthians 6:2 "Behold, now is the accepted time; behold, now is the day of salvation."

Revelation 22:11, 12 "He that is unjust, let him be unjust still: and he which is filthy, let him be filthy still: and he that is righteous, let him be righteous still: and he that is holy, let him be holy still. And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me." (Evidently probation closes just prior to the Second Advent.)

Jeremiah 8:20 "The harvest (day of second coming) is past, the summer is ended, and we are not saved."

Since that time, this view has been widely accepted - often by people who are completely unaware that this was not the belief held by Christians over the centuries. Many fine Christians hold his view today who have never questioned its authority.

Oswald Smith, noted minister and author of Toronto, says in his booklet Tribulation or Rapture - Which? that he once held the two-stage teaching, but that when he began to search the Scriptures for himself, he discovered that there is not a single verse in the Bible to uphold this view. He confessed: "I had been taught that the Greek word 'parousia' always referred to the Rapture and that other words were used for the coming of Christ in glory ... but I found that this is not true. ... We might go through all the writers of the New Testament, and we would fail to discover any indication of the so-called 'two stages' of our Lord's coming ... That theory had to be invented by man. Search and see. There is no verse in the Bible that even mentions it."

The origin of the two-phase coming of Christ has an equally unsavory history. It was not until around the year 1830 that this view began to be taught. In the Scottish church pastored by Edward Irving, a Miss Margaret McDonald gave what was believed at the time to be an inspired utterance. She spoke of the visible, open, and glorious second coming of Christ. But as the utterance continued, she spoke of another coming of Christ - a secret and special coming in which those who were truly ready would be raptured.

However, it was John Nelson Darby - Brethren preacher and diligent writer of the time in England - who was largely responsible for introducing this new teaching on a large scale. The teaching spread to the United States in the 1850s and 1860s, where it was to receive its biggest boost when Cyrus Ingerson Scofield, a strong believer in Darby's teachings, incorporated it into the notes of his Scofield Reference Bible, which was published in 1909.

"On the other hand, the Jesuit Ribera tried to set aside the application of these prophecies to the papal power by bringing out the futurist system, which asserts that these prophecies refer properly, not to the career of the Papacy, but to some future supernatural individual, who is yet to appear, and continue in power for three and a half years. Thus, as Alford says, the Jesuit Ribera, about A.D. 1580, may be regarded as the founder of the futurist system of modern times.

"It is a matter for deep regret that those who advocate the futurist system at the present day, Protestants as they are for the most part, are really playing into the hands of Rome, and helping to screen the Papacy from detection as the Antichrist."1

Thus, the whole theory of the secret rapture with its future Antichrist had its origin with the Jesuits in an attempt to take the blame off the Papacy.

Please notice Rome's course of action to nullify this interpretation: "So great a hold did the conviction that the Papacy was the Antichrist gain upon the minds of men, that Rome at last saw she must bestir herself, and try, by putting forth other systems of interpretation, to counteract the identification of the Papacy with the Antichrist.

"Accordingly, toward the close of the century of the Reformation, two of the most learned doctors set themselves to the task, each endeavoring by different means to accomplish the same end, namely, that of diverting men's minds from perceiving the fulfillment of the prophecies of the Antichrist in the papal system. The Jesuit Alcazar devoted himself to bring into prominence the preterist method of interpretation, ... and thus endeavored to show that the prophecies of Antichrist were fulfilled before the popes ever ruled in Rome, and therefore could not apply to the Papacy.