ThickSharon123:


You're still the clown, don't you rest ...gosh!! I'm enjoying the show, bring more so we can laugh.

You are inebriated with alcohol.

Get sober and come debate with me, dullard

Bkayyy:

Now you want me to explain Osu to you so that you can continue your fight against IPOB. Lol.

Nigerian zoo animals sef. I want you to continue like this so that any Igbo man that read it will know that you know nothing about Osu, Aro and Igbo culture

Mehn go and sit down

You simply don't know anything hence your empty boasts!

I don't have time for your likes

Bkayyy:

If one reads from this post to all you have posted, he will realise that you have serious mental illness.

Just read them yourself. From Akamkpa (Ejagham) to Efik and now this.

If you must lie/make things up, learn to remember your last lie

mtchew

Bkayyy:

Mtcheww... Find something else to waste your time on.
I can remember your first hilarious post about this imaginary Aro thing, it was all about raising a stigma on Aro in the Igbo nation in a bid to dissociate Ndigbo from IPOB. This propaganda business doesn't suit you.

See how ridiculous you sound because you thought Nnamdi Kanu was Aro.

Anyways let me burst your bubble, Nnamdi Kanu is Ibeku not Aro.

No knowledge is a waste

Have you heard of OSU before?

They can be found all over Igbo land except Arochukwu, Abiriba, Edda and Ohafia.

Historically, the OSU are said to be Arochukwu property, having been cursed by the Ibini Ukpabi agent native doctors, especially during the slave trade era.
After the British stopped the slave trade, these OSU were never assimilated back into the Igbo society as they were said to be cursed and they sabotaged the Biafran war because of this rejection, according to Prof Ignatius Ebbe in his book, Broken Back Axle. He also said they became the top politicians after the war.


Orji Uzor Kalu is said to be an OSU. If that is true, then Kanu could be an OSU because Orji Uzor Kalu appointed Kanu's father as traditional ruler of Afara Ibeku in Umuahia.

But the main reason I mentioned Kanu is because he uses the Ibibio juju shrine Ibini Ukpabi and Chukwuokike abiama to initiate members into IPOB.

Now since Ibibios do not support Biafra, does it make sense to use their deity to seek for Biafra?

remember that it was this Ibini Ukpabi that was responsible for condemning Igbo freeborns as slaves and OSU

Bkayyy:

I wonder the kind of issues Ijaw people are developing with Aro in modern history. Is it because your ancestors worshipped them?

My dear you can't change peoples identity.

Now to the main question, who exactly are the Igbos you are alleging that Aro tricked?

The ARO tricked all IGBOs. ALL OF US.
We never knew their tricks until the British came and exposed them as FRAUDs.

That is why during the British/Aro war, no single Igbo community supported the Arochukwu people except their brethren at Abiriba, EDDA, Ohafia and Abam , unlike during the Ekumeku war in Western Igbo, where dozens of Igbo communities united in war against the British

Bkayyy:

LOL. What exactly is this thread about if Ijaws have no interest in Igbo (Opobo and Bonny) history?
Your aim is for us to help you blackmail Aro so as to hide your pitiable Ijaw history as people that worshipped Arochukwu People.

Imagine Ijaw asking for Igbo help to fight a fellow Igbo. Wonders shall never end.

Now who exactly are the Igbos?

Someone mentioned Aro migration route here and I pointed out a few things to him.

Stop generalizing and be more specific.

What concerns Ijaw with pointing out that Aro were not true Igbo people, but Efiks who adopted Igbo names and customs to sell 5 million Igbo slaves and made millions others OSU slaves dedicated to their shrines all over Igbo land?

Ijaw people are greedy land grabbers and ethnic cleansers. They are a very wicked group of people but a lack of clear Igbo hierarchical political structure is the primary cause of the success of their evil actions on Igbo.

When they tried their land grabbing scheme on the Itsekiris, the Itsekiris allied with their Yoruba brethren to deal with them.


Bonny Igbos do not have that luxury because unlike the Yorubas, we have never had a clear hierarchical political structure in all our history

Bkayyy:

This shows you don't even know Efiks at all.

According to Prince Bassey Duke in 1917 "The Efiks were originally Ibo descendants. They came from Mbiak Creek in Ibibio country."

E shock you?

You weren't specific.

When the Efiks were in Arochukwu, they were one people with the Ibibios and it was then called Obong okon ita and Ibom isii. This happened centuries before the arrival of the Eze agwu group from Abiriba.

The Efiks fought with the Ibibios and the Ibibios won and sent them out of Ibom isii. They then migrated to Calabar.

Bkayyy:

LOL. You just like contradicting yourself.

Now no more Akamkpa but Akwa Akpa.

Lol. Ijaw people sef. You guys always justify the stereotype that you were all savages.

Quick fact, Akamkpa and Duke Town Calabar are not of the same ethnicity. One if Ejagham while the other is Efik.
And Efik history tells that they migrated after the establishment of Aro not the other way round. An account of their history tells of migration from Arochukwu.

Efik migrated from Aro?

where is your proof?

Bkayyy:

Mtcheww... I don't know the kind of brain you Ijaw people have.

You could as well, post one of the thousands of Ijaw blogs that claim Bonny and Opobo to end the debate in the thread.

I can post hundreds blogs from Nigeria that claim all clans of Igboland belonging to different minority tribes. We have one that says Nri is Igala, another that says Western Igboland (Anioma) is Bini and now, your joke of a page. Lol

When you are done fooling yourself, return to reality.

Who told you I am Ijaw?

Do Ijaw have a good interest of Igbo at heart to tell us about our past history?

Grow up brother. Aro who sold Igbo as slaves do not love Igbo more than the Ijaws. So be wise.
Ijaw are land grabbers allied with the Hausa Fulani to take over Igbo land, while the Aro are responsible for the present cold war between the OSU and the Diala freeborn culminating in the OSU betrayal of the Igbo during the Biafran war, according to Prof Ignatius Ebbe in his book Broken Back Axle.

Igboid:


Nope. The Akpa in this story are not Efiks.
No Efik bear the name Akuma.
Thank you.

You are mistaken.

Read Abiriba history.

Aro are a very cunning people.

If they could rename the Ibini Ukpabi shrine to Chukwuokike abiama to the Igbos in order to make Igbo travel a very long distance to the shrine, what stops them from naming themselves using Igbo names and abandon their Efik and Ibibio names?
Remember they are trilingual which could be used flexibly as an asset
https://www.google.com/url?q=http://igbohistory..com/2015/10/abiriba-history.html%3Fm%3D1&sa=U&ved=2ahUKEwiLvsaaxqr1AhVBLewKHfS_DIUQFnoECAEQAg&usg=AOvVaw2R3m-JUcLYQP1kvmavKhIA

Igboid:


Stop writing nonsense.

Aro has two major lineages. The Nnachi and Ezeagwu lineage. Then the Akuma lineage which had come from Akpa(an ancient Igbo race that lived in Cross River).

Aro Never had to adopt Igbo name, they were always Igbo speaking, even Akuma is an Igbo name.
Move on!

Have you researched Abiriba history?

What of Edda history?

Do more research brother.

Akpa is not an ancient Igbo race. Akpas are Efiks from Calabar

https://www.google.com/url?q=http://igbohistory..com/2015/10/abiriba-history.html%3Fm%3D1&sa=U&ved=2ahUKEwiLvsaaxqr1AhVBLewKHfS_DIUQFnoECAEQAg&usg=AOvVaw2R3m-JUcLYQP1kvmavKhIA

This is Abiriba history.

Bkayyy:

LOL.
Three clans make up Aro with the indigenous Ibibio.
They are Ezeagwu (most populous)
Nnachi (The ruling clan)
And Akpa (Igbo clan from across the river just like Isobo in modern Cross Rivers state)

I know tomorrow when we take over your village with the help of Isobo or Ikwo both in Crossy Rivers state, your descendants will start ranting centuries later that Isobo is Isoko while Ikwo is Ikwerre

Twist of the weak.

Don't get it twisted bro. Wisdom is needed to understand the Aro.

The Aro were way very smart people. How many tribes get to sell 3 million slaves from a group of people without conquering them?

1) The Eze agwu you mentioned migrated from Akwa Akpa (Duke town, Calabar) to Abiriba down to Arochukwu. They are Efiks with Igbo names

2) Nnachi Ipia the native doctor migrated from the same Akwa Akpa to Edda down to Arochukwu. He was the one who called on the Akpa King to supply guns and the warriors Osim and Akuma Nnubi to finish off the Ibibios. All are Efiks with Igbo names.

The remaining were the Ibibios under the prince Akpakpokpa who supported the Aro. They live at Ibom isii


Now it is important to note that the Efiks are more closely related to the Ibibios than to the Igbos, so why would the Efiks support pure Igbo strangers over Ibibios?

Bkayyy:

Remember to take your medicine after your display of stupidity.

There are still Igbo clans in Cross Rivers if you can't differentiate the name Akpa from Akamkpa. Emergency quack online historian.

When next you lie, try to make it believable. Tomorrow people like you will say that Isobo in Cross Rivers are not Igbo but Isoko or Ikwo is Ikwerre.

Read widely monsieur encyclopedia.
Nnachi ipia came from Edda, did you read Edda history?
Eze Agwu came from Abiriba, did you also bother to also research Abiriba history?
Abiribas are more truthful, explicit and detailed in their historical data, unlike the cunning Aros.
Abiriba people say they are from Calabar. They don't tell you Akpa, or Akwa Akpa or akamkpa.

https://www.google.com/url?q=http://igbohistory..com/2015/10/abiriba-history.html%3Fm%3D1&sa=U&ved=2ahUKEwiLvsaaxqr1AhVBLewKHfS_DIUQFnoECAEQAg&usg=AOvVaw2R3m-JUcLYQP1kvmavKhIA

USE YOUR HEAD

Bkayyy:

You've forgotten that this your handle is supposed to claim Igbo. You Ijaws can't hide yourselves for long.

Ijaw were known in history as cannibals that love their entire lives on canoe. They have no notable town or kingdom plus, they don't trade.

When Baikie came to Nigeria to negotiate for renewed trade with England, he negotiated with all civilised nations apart from Ijaw because they don't trade. The concept of money is alien to them.

Igbos are also cannibalistic. Read G T Basden book Amongst the Ibos of Nigeria.
Now since the Ijaws do not trade with any one, that means they do not trade in Ivory, understand?

jos are IGBOs, pure and simple!!!!

Igboid:


Documents speaks of Jos (Izon) in the territories of Sobous( old name for Urhobo and Isoko).
This is just about the first place the Ijaws arrived in, in Nigeria, from where they spread.
This is why those Ijaws in Kolokuma areas claim to be the original home of Ijaw.
That's where your Sierra Leone ancestors first arrived.

jos mentioned were Igbos. Ijaws have never been cannibalistic as they had no need to. They were fishermen. Also the Ijaws do not trade in Ivory nor slaves.

Igbos on the other hand do not have enough protein for our large population, hence resorted to cannibalism to get the much needed protein.
G T Basden, a missionary stated this in his book Amongst the Igbos of Nigeria

Crazybeard:

Lol...
You need to update.

First you said no early account of Ijaws,then Ijaws came from Sierra Leone bla bla bla

As far back as the 15th century,the sold slaves.

Ijaws were never cannibalistic and had no need to because they had an abundance of fish

According to G T Basden in his book Amongst the Ibos of Nigeria, Igbos suffered from a chronic lack of protein in our diets in relation to our large population, hence resorts to cannibalism in order to augment their meals. Even dead carcasses were not spared

Igboid:


Nope. The Akpa in this story are not Efiks.
No Efik bear the name Akuma.
Thank you.

The Aro bear Igbo names but they also tell you they are Akpas from Akwa Akpa (Calabar).
This means that they adopted the Igbo names to hide their identity which is Efik. This they did in order to aid them in assimilating into Igbo hinterlands to easily acquire slaves for sale.

Another instance was the Ibini Ukpabi shrine.
The Aros were smart enough to market the shrine not as the shrine of Ibini Ukpabi, but that of CHUKWUOKIKE ABIAMA. In order words most Igbo who went there never knew that the name of the shrine was truly Ibini Ukpabi

Crazybeard:

These are fifteen century account and it trump's that of the British that was made in the 19th century.

Before then,there was no influx of Igbo slaves into Bonny.

Ijaws do not trade in Ivory. And Ijaws cannot be cannibalistic because they have an ample supply of a rich source of proteins in fishes from the river.

Igbos on the other hand are well known traders in Ivory. According to G T Basden in his book, Amongst the Ibos of Nigeria, Igbos were cannibalistic. This cannibalism is caused by the chronic lack of PROTEINOUS food like meat and fish compared to the very large population of the Igbo.

This means that the JOS are IGBOs, PURE AND SIMPLE

DubaiLandLord:
On top Nairaland abi

Don't worry. We will soon give you Ijaw land grabbers the treatment Itsekiris gave you guys. very soon

GreatBoss:
Nengi is a unisex name both male and female can answer it.

Nengi of BbNaija from Bayelsa.

She is from
Nembe-Ijaw Subgroup,
That carries both Brass nd Nembe LGA people.

The present Chairman Asari Toru LGA Kalabari-Ijaw is also Nengi by name.

The present Chairman Bonny LGA Ibani-Ijaw is also Nengi by name and u say Bonny is Igbo.
If them born una well come Bonny, come talk this nonesense.

Bonny belongs to the Igbo.

No be only one Ijaw name go make Bonny turn to Ijaw.

GreatBoss:


You can say whatever u want to say online, all I know is that, if una reach Bonny nd say this kind of thing.
That will be una last minutes on earth concerning what we will make una face.
Foolish people.

Shameless land grabbers, ethnic cleansers and genocidists.

I love how Itsekiri people dealt with you guys when you came to drag Warri with them

Shameless people

GreatBoss:


As stupid as u are, I'm from Bonny.
What my father and grandfather told me is my history, not some useless Ibo on Nairaland.
All Ibani people are all Ijaws.
Go to hell and first stop calling fellow ibos outcast.
We don't have useless cultures like Ibo.
That have no regard and value for woman.

Post civil war Ijoid bonny indigene.
How many native Bonny Igbo did you eliminate and take over there lands and properties before saying Bonny is Ijo?

Igboid:
When you read Aro history.
You would be told that when the war became strong, Aro people called for the help of Akpas, a group who no one know their true origin today but is believed to have lived in Cross River State , the Akpas it was who turned the tide of war in favor of the Aros.
But look at the name of the leader of the Akpa warriors: AKUMA. That's a typical Igbo name that Igbos still bear until today.

My rational analysis is that the Akpas were likely part of the same Igbo Entourage as Aros who passed through Cross River on their journey to Arochukwu, but while the Aros completed the journey, the Akpas settled along the way in Cross River and became an independent group there and maybe retained their contact with their Aro brothers, who contacted them when they were in need.

Akpas are from Akwa Akpa. Akwa Akpa is the old name of Duke town in Calabar. Since the natives of Calabar are Efiks, it then means the Akpas are Efiks/Ekois.
https://www.nairaland.com/6925217/true-origin-aro-summary-aro

Igboid:
When you read Aro history.
You would be told that when the war became strong, Aro people called for the help of Akpas, a group who no one know their true origin today but is believed to have lived in Cross River State , the Akpas it was who turned the tide of war in favor of the Aros.
But look at the name of the leader of the Akpa warriors: AKUMA. That's a typical Igbo name that Igbos still bear until today.

My rational analysis is that the Akpas were likely part of the same Igbo Entourage as Aros who passed through Cross River on their journey to Arochukwu, but while the Aros completed the journey, the Akpas settled along the way in Cross River and became an independent group there and maybe retained their contact with their Aro brothers, who contacted them when they were in need.

Akpas are from Akwa Akpa. Akwa Akpa is the old name of Duke town in Calabar. Since the natives of Calabar are Efiks, it then means the Akpas are Efiks/Ekois.

Igboid:


Ututu is not an offshoot of Arochukwu.
They are independent group of their own, but as expected, they are related to Arochukwu.

I have a hypothesis that the Igbo came to our current location through a Northern direction.
But at Kogi, there was a split. One group took the direction of Edo and the other took the direction of Benue and then Cross River.
The groups that took Edo direction gave rise to the Indigenous Igbo tribes in Anioma, those who took Benue direction ended up in Ikwo, Ezza,Izzi. Those who took Cross River direction ended up forming Bende, Arochukwu, Ututu,Ohafia, Abiriba.
Others moved straight from Kogi to Anambra River area and formed the Nri and Nsukka groups.
All these groups now kept pushing down until they all met each other again within Abia and Imo state.
Kept pushing until they reached the coasts (Bonny).
I believe during these journey, many Igbos were left along the way, and they settled with their non Igbo neighbors and lost their Igbo language.

When you listen to Abiriba, Bende history, you hear of origin from Cross River direction, yet the name of their ancestors were all Igbos.
For example the ancestor of Abiriba was called "Nnachioke"
So I came to the conclusion that these ancestors were Igbos on the move who had to pass through non Igbo territories, settled amongst them, acquired wives and friends from there who joined in their journey, until they settled to where they are currently stationed. They also in typical Igbo manner acquired cultural practices of these people.


That's my rational explanation of the Igbo migration and the irreconcilable stories of ancestors who were said to be Edo, Cross River, Igala , etc, yet all bore Igbo names and have their descendants speaking Igbo.

Arochukwu, Abiriba, Edda, Abam and Ohafia are Akpas (Efiks/Ekois) from Akwa Akpa, the old name of Duke town in Calabar. They speak 3 languages, Efik, Ibibio,and Igbo. They also observe the Ekpe secret society rituals under the Obong of Calabar till date.

See the summary of their history here:
https://www.nairaland.com/6925217/true-origin-aro-summary-aro

Hotice085:
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Ankpas is not Akpa

Ankpa is different from Akpa

Akwa Akpa is the old name of Duke town in calabar

https://www.google.com/url?q=https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duke_Town&sa=U&ved=2ahUKEwjq6PyTn5v1AhWCMewKHRM6CWMQFnoECAkQAg&usg=AOvVaw1IMaE-r9XkUuOZmfLnd9oO

okeyglm:
onye mkpuru miri that means Igbo land extended into Calabar. stop taking mkpuru miri you refused.

You are a waste of education.
I feel sorry for people that sponsored your education cos all you learnt in school is about meth, hence your projection.

Do you really think this post is for empty headed mofos?

If you don't know anything, stay aside. You don't have to expose your disgraceful ignorance like a shameless pig!!!

Hotice085:
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By religious and ritual links we mean those provided by the Ibini Ukpabi oracle of the Aro, an institution known in many Cross River communities, especially among the Efik-Ibibio, as Ibritam. The Ibini Ukpabi itself was a typical product of the contact situation existing between the Igbo and the Ibibio. According to its social charter it was, in the beginning, a local god of an Ibibio group. Then it was captured by the Igbo slaves of this Ibibio group, who successfully rebelled against their servile status and sought to turn the table on their masters, who chose instead to flee the region. Under the control of these erstwhile Igbo slaves, the Ibini Ukpabi grew in influence to become, according to one authority, the most powerful oracle in West Africa by the nineteenth century.

Nigerian history, politics and affairs, Adiele Afigbo.

http://books.google.com/books?id=ez58Dwpa8JcC&pg=PA137

The Igbo group were from Akpa which is Calabar.
Were the Calabar slaves of the Ibibios?

okeyglm:
in one way you described aro's as Igbo in other way you call them efik. confusion everywhere . effect of mkpuru miri at work.

Aros are Efiks answering Igbo names and speaking Igbo language to enable them infiltrate Igbo land and get slaves for sale.

They even renamed their shrine called Ibini Ukpabi to CHUKWUOKIKE ABIAMA so as to lure unsuspecting Igbos to seek solutions to their problems and get sold as slaves.

Akudaisi:
The confusion in your head this new year shouldn’t be treated with a kids glove.
You claim that they are Ibibio people yet,we see names like Nnachi,Akuma etc
Nawa oo

You are confused.

Does an Igbo man living in the North and answering Hausa names make him Hausa?

Get wise you Igbos!

Someone sold 3 million of you as slaves amidst a reign of terror yet you call them Igbo just because they answer Igbo names

I wu ezigbo onuku!!!!

Original Igbo?
What an insult?

gidgiddy:


Chukwu okike abiama which literally translates as "God the most high creator"

Where was Nnamdi Kanu doing this initiating from? London? Radio Biafra? kuje Prison? Or DSS custody?

Whenever you want to join IPOB, you swear a solemn oath of secrecy and obedience to Chukwuokike abiama that if you betray IPOB, Chukwuokike abiama will deal with you