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Tinubu votes in Ikoyi

boxypane:
The man that paid workers salaries without Federal allocations for 5 months?
Obi or Atiku fit?

Over 1 year please. It's for 13 months same number of months Obi didn't pay doctors and they were on strike

Red02:
Is it a thing to boast of that lagos is progressing but nigeria is moving backwards in many areas??

You're getting closer. Now give me an example of another state being ruled by a different party since 1999 that's closer to Lagos in terms of development.

Red02:
All these apc apologist, sth is wrong with you guys

Is it a must one will vote for your candidate irrespective of ethnicity.

This one was quick to ask me why has abia not gone far
What do i have to do with abia if not for your deluded thoughts, fvckin bunch of racists and tribal bigots.

Do you know how many nationalities are in new york,london,paris, and others.

You want your country to be like them but you still attack other tribes from your own country.

@donbrowser grow past that mentality

Why is there a big margin between Lagos and other states in Nigeria in terms of development if Lagos is not doing well?

Simple question!

You want another party to rule Lagos and I gave you a sample of another state being ruled by another party.

So answer my question

Red02:
You also feeling attacked

I'm a lagosian

My reply was related to her question, what concerns abia state with me??

We Lagosians know ourselves... Abia has been ruled by PDP since 1999, compare their development to any other state in the same south east. Why is there a large margin between Lagos and other states in terms of development

Alright

Red02:
Lagos could have gone farther than what it is today if not for his solid grip on the revenue generated by the state

Why has Abia not gone far?

Why is Lagos that has not gone far still at margin of 1:10 to other states in Nigeria?

Leave Lagos alone and mind your business!

Mynd44 Seun

Link to previous thread:

https://www.nairaland.com/7582830/atiku-vs-tinubu-vs-obi

This thread is a counter thread against the purpoted lies by Ochejoseph, every sane person would know the thread was riddled on the benchmark of lies, falsehood and deceit.

Here's my opinion which I believe is honest!

Education:
Atiku has no landmark achievement in Education, same as his PDP-Lite counter part Peter Obi. Tinubu was the first governor in Nigeria to return schools to their owners such as missionaries, he built 4 millennium schools. He was the first governor since 1999 to provide free education for all, paid for Waec and Neco fees, gave the teachers enough incentives. Unlike Peter Obi who bought laptops for students and left them to their faith, Tinubu trained their teachers in ICT and also ensured adequate provision of ICT facilities, laboraties even for special schools.

It is quite funny and really irritating to read from Ochejoseph that Atiku's private university is an achievement in education. I'm not surprised because many youths today are also supporting Peter Obi who didn't build a single school as a governor.

A comprehensive list of Tinubu's achievements in Education can be found here:

https://www.nairaland.com/6959386/list-tinubu-achievements-education-when

Another falsehood being echoed by Ochejoseph is the uncertainty of Tinubu's certificate, while I will admit that Atiku has a MSc but here's a submission and confession of Ochejoseph's party member who wasted $4,000 on his findings about Tinubu's certificate genuity https://pmnewsnigeria.com/2022/11/19/tinubu-graduated-from-chicago-state-university-i-wasted-4000-to-investigate-him-omokri/

However he also failed to talk about Peter Obi who presented GCE to INEC
https://www.pulse.ng/news/politics/gce-paper-qualifications-not-true-measure-of-wisdom-obis-aide/y9cwfy3

Job Creation: I was literally expecting Ochejoseph to mention how Atiku created jobs to impact the life of common men but he further buttressed on what we've known Atiku Abubakar for which is enriching himself and his friends, Ochejoseph had the audacity to mention Atiku's private business and Obi's Next supermarket as job creation qualifications for presidential candidates. Pathetic!

He said Tinubu is the worst when it comes to job creation but this news site https://allafrica.com/stories/200002280256.html dating back to year 2000 shows that Tinubu is an employer of labour by employing 10,000 people in 10 months.
He was able to create agencies that employed people from all over the country, these agencies include LASTMA, LAGBUS, LASEWA etc and many other PPP initiatives that created so many jobs for Lagosians. These include Lekki Free Trade Zone, Eko Atlantic, Lagos State Security Trust Fund, Lekki Infrastructure Company, Enron Power Project, LSPDC, Lekki Concession Company.

Tinubu was the only candidate in the recent debate held by NESG with clear goals on job creation where he stated that one of his strategies is to give tax incentives to companies e.g. If you employ 300 poeple as a company, you get tax incentives to offset the burden of their wages. No other candidate mentioned something related.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rlnv_hqafZU

Power Generation: Ochejoseph briefly hung his jacket of lies here while admitting Tinubu is the only governor in Nigeria to ever generate electricity but I guess Ochejoseph was reminded by an external body he's heading towards marketing Tinubu rather than stating the achievement of Atiku in electricity. Is Ochejoseph trying to shy away from the $16 billion dollars wasted by Obasanjo and Atiku yet we still have epileptic power in the country, he also forgot to mention that the PDP-Lite candidate went to Egypt to study a project that has begun implementation in Nigeria.

Do they deserve your votes?

Health Care:
Ochejoseph could barely list two achievements of Atiku Abubakar in the health sector, he vaguely, mischievously and shamelessly mentioned a private project that generates money into the coffers of Atiku and his cronies. This is another rigid confirmation that Atiku is a selfish leader and will not withhold any step in enriching himself at every given chance. His recent statement in an interview with BBC where he was affirmative about going out of the country to receive treatments, Atiku stated that he will either fly out of the country to receive treatments of import doctors whichever is cheaper for the country, he is never ready to change the narrative of a poor system, he only cares about himself. Atiku had the audacity to say “Should I die?” in the interview here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=awvzRQUt-8I You can start watching from 3:18 and get the shocker of your life!
Tinubu on the other hand had massive achievements in health, Older Lagosians will never forget the popular “jigi bola” programme which was designed to provide free eye care services for the old, he initiated the idea of having a health centre in every LCDA, Tinubu created first of its kind marine rescue, drug quality control laboratory, Pre hospital ambulance service accessed from the 123 emergency hot lines (LASAMBUS) among others and there was never a time doctors went on 13 months strike. Thank you!

Security:

Ochejoseph focused his strength more on attacking Peter Obi here stating the Ezu River Masscare among others, it’s family business and I don’t pokenose. However, he failed to mention that Tinubu created RRS in Lagos state to fight insecurity and till date, that has been the best police sect in the country. When Tinubu came on board, he subdued the operation flush and brought a better innovative to handle insecurity in the country.

Preparedness: OcheJoseph has a short memory and should be reminded that Tinubu has on 3 notable occasions won new converts for himself, first was when he presented his manifesto which many have rated as the best, second was his interview with the BBC and the third was the last debate held. OcheJoseph claims Peter Obi is more prepared than Tinubu, I will disagree because Obi was never seen in any political affairs, he never contributed ideas, opinions or the likes to issues of corona virus, endsars etc which he could have used as an avenue to propel himself, he was busy with his containers. If he was also prepared like OcheJoseph claimed, he would have solved the problem of party primaries before it began rather than chicken out to Labour Party and expect to be president in just 8 months.

Tinubu has prepared himself for presidency by creating a framework for Lagos, putting square pegs in square holes, formed a merger and waited for the right time to strike. If Ochejoseph is still mad at the “Emi Lokan” crooner then he should head to Ogun state and ask one of the delegates to explain what Tinubu actually meant. Tinubu is the only candidate that has been the whole 36 states and FCT two times in just 1 year to share his ideas, plans and woo more supporters.

Conclusion:
As you head to the polls this Saturday, vote for competence, track records and someone that has an eye for spotting talents. Someone that will assemble a good team irrespective of your religion or tribe and that person is Asiwaju Bola Ahmed Tinubu.

God bless the Federal Republic of Nigeria.

princeemma69:
Both of them are corrupt but Tinubu Is worst because Atiku stole for 8 years while Tinubu has been stealing Lagos's money for 24 years. Tinubu was a drug baron coupled with the fact that he has mental disorder.

Proof

Goodlady:
You may be right or wrong. But what baffles me us the way they attack Tinubu. The man can't be that bad

They just hate him for no reason. He was governor of Lagos state, never held any post at federal level.

Lagosians don't complain, it's only visitors that come here to prosper that believe Lagos is not working until PDP takes over or their person becomes deputy governor or even governor.

Tinubu ran the most transparent and unbias government as governor. He paid for Waec and Neco fees of everyone irrespective of your tribe, he weed out all ghost workers in Lagos through a first of its kind oracle database. He also did tax automation which any corrupt government would not do. He was the first governor to adopt the pension reform of the FG then. They only hate Tinubu out of jealousy and hereditary hatred but we will reply them at the polls

Bonnyfaith4real:
Your analysis is really laughable Mr writer, how on earth will you attributed all the achievement of successive government in Lagos since 2007 to Tinubu's achievement? What did Fashola and Ambode did in Lagos as an executive governor of Lagos state?

Lets holds individual accountable for what they do and equally gives them kudos on their brilliant achievement.

Pls cross-check your facts before you feed us with lies here.
Lets shun sentiment and ethnicity to make Nigeria grow.

Our vote will count isha-lah

Are you an Atiku supporter?

Goodlady:
This is serious o. And people aren't focusing on this man as they focus on Tinubu

They are PDP apologists, they love PDP only disguising as LP loyalists. It's not about party though, it's about competence

Workch:
Tinubu cannot win. Aso Rock is against him
BVAS is against him.
Cash crunch is against him.
Supreme Court is not on his side.
Majority are not on his side.
He cannot win Atiku in northwest and northeast.
He cannot win Obi in southsouth and southeast.
He cannot win northcentral

He can save himself this embarrassment on Saturday by just stepping down for Obi. The mathematics no follow, there's no way Obi will lose to Atiku if Tinubu supports him.

It's for his own good, he will retain his place as a king maker and keep Lagos. Anything aside this, he will lose and we will make sure Sanwolu loses Lagos as well.

A stubborn fly will follow the corpse to the grave.

Let me save this post 😂

AntiTerrorist:
We yoruba Christians will never vote Tinubu on Muslim-Muslim ticket because we are not fools. When MURIC terrorists told Yoruba Muslims not to vote Yoruba Christians, they all agree. Since no yoruba muslim in Nigeria will ever vote Christian-Christian ticket, why should we christians now vote Mu-Mu ticket?

Christians are not minorities, slaves, or second class citizens in Nigeria. Mu-Mu ticket is a big insult to we Yoruba Christians and we shall punish Tinubu for that before Satan will also punish him. Woe unto any Christian who vote for Islamisation of Nigeria.

"We cannot appoint Pablo Escobar as president and Osama bin Laden as vice president," -- Senator Dino Melaye

I'm a Christian, get yourself a job kid

I know PDP-Lite will still come here to rant, just remember Saturday is near

Corruption issues with Atiku

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/world/2007/feb/28/1

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.vanguardngr.com/2020/09/busted-us-places-atiku-family-under-close-watch-over-alleged-fraud/amp/

https://www.icirnigeria.org/atiku-wife-fingered-trillion-dollars-corruption-case/

https://punchng.com/we-have-fresh-evidence-of-corruption-against-atiku-says-fg/

https://dailypost.ng/2022/05/02/presidency-atiku-should-be-arrested-extradited-to-face-corruption-charges-in-us-ex-spokesman-afegbua/

1. The most recent one: https://thenationonlineng.net/atikus-spv-before-they-take-nigeria-to-the-golgotha/

Let me focus on that one since it's very fresh. Atiku was caught in audio explaining to his aide who exposed him that SPV means special purpose vehicle; a code name for companies they create to divert untraceable funds in form of contract and escape EFCC gallows

2. Atiku and Obasanjo caused our electricity problems today
https://www.vanguardngr.com/2020/09/account-for-16bn-power-fund-privatisation-of-assets-or-keep-quiet-%E2%80%95-apc-tells-obasanjo-atiku/

I still can't imagine how some people will prefer Atiku to Tinubu like are you really sane?

3. Atiku doesn't believe in PPP (Public-Private Partnership), he rather believes in outright privatization. Tinubu achieved most of the things he did in Lagos through PPP such as Lekki free trade zone, Lekki Deep Seaport, BRT, Eko Atlantic etc but Atiku will sell everything off without looking back just as he supervised the sale of over 145 FG investment. See this thread https://www.nairaland.com/7132730/how-atiku-abubakar-started-privatisation
No reasonable human should press his thumb to vote for Atiku, joblessness under Buhari will be a joke! While Atiku was selling off all these Tinubu was creating more jobs in Lagos through PPP.
He outrightly stated in 2019 that he will sell of NNPC to his friends that his friends deserve to be rich.

4. Atiku doesn't care about healthcare in Nigeria


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=awvzRQUt-8I
Watch the video from 3:18, Atiku stated that he will import doctors or fly out to receive treatments even when the interviewer suggested about improving the hospitals here, he doesn't care. He simply said "should he die"?

5. Atiku Abubakar doesn't have any track record in governance. Nothing has ever emanated from him as regards development. That's why he doesn't campaign with his role in nation development as a VP instead he keeps promising like a candidate that quotes China and Bangladesh. Tinubu will always mention Lagos because he tackled insecurity with RRS, he tackled IGR with tax automation, he tackled electricity with Enron, he tackled Education with free education including free Waec and Neco for all Nigerians irrespective of your tribe or indigene, millennium schools and academic policy such as returning of schools to former owners which was copied by another governor in the race today, he tackled grassroot and rural underdevelopment with creation of LCDA, he tackled healthcare with health centres construction across each local government, free eye care for old, bought one of its kind equipments for Lasuth, he tackled transportation with the implementation of BRT.

Never you compare Asiwaju Bola Ahmed Tinubu with privatization Alhaji Atiku or any other person in this race anymore.

Goodlady:
I love politics.
I v been following the news lately and I want to x-ray this two candidates.
Who's the worst among Atiku and Tinubu?
Let's speak without hatred but facts. Especially with evidence and those that has more allegations and court cases of corruption.
As the presidential election draws closer, let's look at this two.
I don't want to include Obi or Kwankwaso cos Atiku and Tinubu are 70 plus.
Atiku is the oldest at 76 while Tinubu is 72.
Who worst pass abeg? Be truthful in your summation.

Corruption issues with Atiku

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/world/2007/feb/28/1

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.vanguardngr.com/2020/09/busted-us-places-atiku-family-under-close-watch-over-alleged-fraud/amp/

https://www.icirnigeria.org/atiku-wife-fingered-trillion-dollars-corruption-case/

https://punchng.com/we-have-fresh-evidence-of-corruption-against-atiku-says-fg/

https://dailypost.ng/2022/05/02/presidency-atiku-should-be-arrested-extradited-to-face-corruption-charges-in-us-ex-spokesman-afegbua/

1. The most recent one: https://thenationonlineng.net/atikus-spv-before-they-take-nigeria-to-the-golgotha/

Let me focus on that one since it's very fresh. Atiku was caught in audio explaining to his aide who exposed him that SPV means special purpose vehicle; a code name for companies they create to divert untraceable funds in form of contract and escape EFCC gallows

2. Atiku and Obasanjo caused our electricity problems today
https://www.vanguardngr.com/2020/09/account-for-16bn-power-fund-privatisation-of-assets-or-keep-quiet-%E2%80%95-apc-tells-obasanjo-atiku/

I still can't imagine how some people will prefer Atiku to Tinubu like are you really sane?

3. Atiku doesn't believe in PPP (Public-Private Partnership), he rather believes in outright privatization. Tinubu achieved most of the things he did in Lagos through PPP such as Lekki free trade zone, Lekki Deep Seaport, BRT, Eko Atlantic etc but Atiku will sell everything off without looking back just as he supervised the sale of over 145 FG investment. See this thread https://www.nairaland.com/7132730/how-atiku-abubakar-started-privatisation
No reasonable human should press his thumb to vote for Atiku, joblessness under Buhari will be a joke! While Atiku was selling off all these Tinubu was creating more jobs in Lagos through PPP.
He outrightly stated in 2019 that he will sell of NNPC to his friends that his friends deserve to be rich.

4. Atiku doesn't care about healthcare in Nigeria

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=awvzRQUt-8I
Watch the video from 3:18, Atiku stated that he will import doctors or fly out to receive treatments even when the interviewer suggested about improving the hospitals here, he doesn't care. He simply said "should he die"?

5. Atiku Abubakar doesn't have any track record in governance. Nothing has ever emanated from him as regards development. That's why he doesn't campaign with his role in nation development as a VP instead he keeps promising like a candidate that quotes China and Bangladesh. Tinubu will always mention Lagos because he tackled insecurity with RRS, he tackled IGR with tax automation, he tackled electricity with Enron, he tackled Education with free education including free Waec and Neco for all Nigerians irrespective of your tribe or indigene, millennium schools and academic policy such as returning of schools to former owners which was copied by another governor in the race today, he tackled grassroot and rural underdevelopment with creation of LCDA, he tackled healthcare with health centres construction across each local government, free eye care for old, bought one of its kind equipments for Lasuth, he tackled transportation with the implementation of BRT.

Never you compare Asiwaju Bola Ahmed Tinubu with privatization Alhaji Atiku or any other person in this race anymore.

I'm in about 14 Obidients groups. Anytime you see them winning polls online it's because they usually share links of polls to all their groups. Saturday is near

slowice:
If you are an adult then you don't have to believe me. I mean you Ve a working brain,use it well and you won't need to believe anyone but yourself 🙂

If you have a working brain, you won't come here to tell us your uncles and dads that said Peter Obi was a failure on the first page were actually drunk or are they tribalists too? Maybe Tinubu also payed them?

Which part of your brain is working please so we can help you understand what this thread is all about properly

slowice:
Do you want to see a working Nigeria in your life time or not? No good man will ever be president if the people haven't had enough bullshit and strongly desire change.

Your fathers and uncles on the first page said Obi was a failure as a governor

Why should we believe you?

Dey play

Another proof that some people are zombies

Occurstaem:
These people will never take responsibility for their actions. They must always find someone to blame for their woes.

The implication of the comments on Peter Obi during his tenure is that South East will keep on witnessing bad governance from their political leaders because their people now have the believe that criticizing their leaders is tantamount to destroying their leaders' chances for contesting president in the future as with Peter Obi.
Most commenters on those threads are regretting ever criticizing Obi and have now miraculously became his supporters, pushing him to contest for presidency because of ethnic sentiments despite knowing fully well and witnessed it firsthand that Obi is grossly incompetent.

Their political leaders won't perform optimally since they now know that their people will never criticize them no matter how bad their governance is. Their people think that outsiders will use it against them in the nearest future when they want to contest for president.
This particular thread confirmed it.

You're not far from the truth and infact I'm really sorry for the east in the next maybe 20 years to come. They are following the footsteps of their forefathers sorry to say but it's the truth.

1. While the West was building the first TV station, cocoa house, free education etc and the North was exporting heaps of grounut and farm produce, Azikwe and others from the east were busy looking for a way to control Nigeria and put everyone under them rather than develop their region. Same thing they are doing in Lagos now.

2. I did a poll sometime ago asking who would Igbos support for presidency if it was narrowed to Ikpeazu (Abia state governor who gives some mothers 500 naira and kerosene) and Umahi (Ebonyi state governor who built 22 flyovers). Surprisingly they chose Ikpeazu ahead of Umahi because the former was a PDP man and the latter an APC governor.

3. If you ask these people why 3 northern states Kano, Kaduna and Katsina have dry ports and the east is yet to have a single one, they will insult you rather than voting incompetent people out.

4. Ask Igbos which state will cater for the whole southeast or which mineral resources and infrastructures will they fend on if they get their desired Biafra, you will start hearing stories of how they are the richest in Nigeria yet they don't make top 4 in any list (I'm not insulting please). Same mistake Ojukwu made while he fought for their freedom and they came back to Nigeria because of hunger due to lack of preparation and absence of mineral resources.

5. While Atiku stole the mandate of the South-East which is rightfully theirs because they have supported the party since 1999, they still hate Tinubu and still love Atiku as a second choice for Obi instead of joining the southwest or wike in order to have a large quota of involvement in the coming government, they will rather do otherwise and cry about marginalization later or expect the APC they didn't vote for to give them the platform to contest presidency. Laughable actually.

I hope they wake up from their slumber and see how well other regions are doing by appointing good leaders rather than focus their energy on getting the seat of power in Lagos which is never possible.

I hope they also see that I don't hate them and I'm just buttressing the obvious truth from Soludo's letter the other day.

Jnkay:
I knew urchins were lying about the pictures because if it was crowded, Keyamo would have posted it online. That was why I insisted that they should show us the drone view. Thanks to Reno that bursted Urchins bubbles. Even the crowd that came to TBS for Obi was bigger than the crowd that came to Tinubu

That's not true lol. I was there live. The stadium was filled to the Brim... But the sun was too much and many people left before Tinubu came in around 3.05pm

RoadStar:
This baseless pride of not being able to accept critisism is what Obi has been exploiting for time now.
You could see in his response to el-rufais comments as an Igbo attack.
This mentallity especially of Igbos is beginning to damage us big time.

Ecclesiastes 1:9