₦airaland Forum

As expected!!

Never in doubt! Just take a look at that gap!
Honestly I can't wait for Saturday..

Interesting analysis of Kaduna votes.

Will obi really put up a decent showing in the north??

Are there northern christians who really align well with the Obi ticket?

Saturday is almost here.

garfield1:
Kaduna southern senatorial zone
Sanga:the apc deputy gov is from here.apc won here narrowly in 2019.same will happen.narrow win for tinubu.

Jemaa:they will vote obi but some will vote atiku.

Kachia:obi will win narrowly here but apc and PDP will get good votes.

Kaura: obi will win here massively.

Kauru;apc usually wins here narrowly.therefore apc wins of they divide the votes.

Zangon kataf; they will give obi bloc votes.

Kagarko; pdp usually wins here narrowly therefore votes will divide into three places.

Jaba; they will vote obi massively.

Kaduna central zone
Kajuru: obi will win here but pdp will get good votes.
Chikun: they are radical Christians and will vote obi massively.pdp highest votes is usually here.

Giwa; they usually vote apc massively.tinubu will win here.
Birnin gwari; tinubu will win here but pdp will get some votes.
Igabi: they are fanatics and will vote apc and nnpp

Kaduna north: el rufai will deliver here for tinubu with atiku getting some votes.
Kaduna south lga: tinubu will narrowly win with pdp and lp getting votes from the Christian axis

Kaduna northern zone
Zaria; tinubu will win here with a good number going to nnpp

Lere; tinubu will win here but Christians in saminaka who form 30% will vote obi.

Sabon gari;apc should win here but hon aminu shagali will give atiku votes here.

Ikara: tinubu will win here with nnpp coming second

Kubau: massive win for tinubu

Kudan: hunkuyi will deliver for nnpp with tinubu coming second.

Makarfi: tinubu and atiku will share votes here...

Summary
Apc 40%
Lp 30%
Nnpp 15%
Pdp 15%

For the governorship,Jonathan asake will win most parts of kaduna south except kauru and sanga.uba sani of apc will clear kaduna central bexcept chikun and kajuru.hunkuyi,uba sani and isa ashiru will share kad north..uba sani will emerge victorious

seankafor:
these people are billionaires in naira at the very least

Why should they throw punch

Na foolish people dey throw punch because of politics

I think I've covered this narrative before, presidential candidates may be friendly or friends to each other but their CANDIDACY represents totally different things. Things that may be inimical to the well being of the country..

I used Trump and Biden as examples. One attended the other's child marriage to their spouse but their presidencies represent very different things..

If tinubu was not running as a presidential candidate, I'm sure his name an legacy will be much better than it is now.

His candidacy has inspired genuine fear amongst the masses because of their experiences with old and sick candidates.

So this narrative should really be subdued. The masses fight about candidates, not because of the people they are but because of what they represent.

seankafor:
Best caption wins

This does it enough justice. 😎😎

larride:
They didnt throw punch?

I'm disappointed.

Let's hope that people would be allowed to exercise their franchise peacefully in Lagos.

Always click the whole post people, not cut and join.

donjazet:
I don't see the drug baron winning new votes.

You really think that the average Nigerian is motivated to go and vote for APC again?

We were motivated for APC 4 years ago and 8 years ago. They failed us! Many like us who voted for the APC in the hopes of them starting something new are what you call "dissatisfied voters" and you can bet your ass, a significant portion of us are OBIdient right now.

APC don show us shege, they've rubbed mud in our faces.

Me and Ibime were the strongest buhari supporters on this thread both in 2015 and 2019.

Only people like that vulture griller, mannabbq vulture griller are still making noise for that dead party.

While he doubled down on his support in the face of abject failure of the party. W
We are moving on to a new hope. A fresh party. And you can smell the breath of political revolution in the country.
Watch and see

Just look at this disingenuiety.

Look at how this post was distorted and then given a narrative of its own, when the whole post was telling another story.

Donjazet:
But after spending 5 hours in traffic yesterday because of these fools who don't even know what the're protesting again, my perspective became very much clearer on how those people felt.

At this point, I am asking why we don't just take the win so far and chill and watch how things progress from here.

We in Nigeria need to learn from that. The protests were very honorable to begin with, with a very simple message #END SARS.
The international community has rallied behind us and the government has responded swiftly too. They have banned the unit and assured that the unit is now rendered defunct with reformation for it's members.
We have to take this win and bide our time, now the protests are being hijacked with all sorts of agenda from different people. The protests are gradually progressing to riots, the protesters are now a nuisance to the average citizen on the road.

These protests have to end now.
LET'S TAKE THE WIN AND BIDE OUR TIME. Else normal people will lose the zeal to continue to support us.

donjazet:
I swear down, one can't truly understand a situation like he who wears the shoe that pains.

Sometime ago when i watched the news and saw some people run down black lives matter protesters who were obstructing movement with their cars in America, I was like what kind of heartless barbarity is that??

But after spending 5 hours in traffic yesterday because of these fools who don't even know what the're protesting again, my perspective became very much clearer on how those people felt.

At this point, I am asking why we don't just take the win so far and chill and watch how things progress from here.

In America, after the death of George Floyd, millions of people all over the world, came out in support and solidarity with the Black Lives Matter movement. Trump didn't even pay close attention, he kept screaming law and order but at least he held dialogues with police Chiefs that led to slight reforms on police manhandling.

Before you knew it, the protests started getting derailed to other issues that had nothing to do with the original intent of the protest Good or bad as they might have been), People started defacing all revered monuments, started blocking highways and calling for a total abolishment of the police force.
At that point, normal people lost interest and the zeal to still protest and 4 months later, you still have some people protesting for God knows what. The protests are thoroughly unrecognizable from how it started. Everyone is now tired of seeing all these protests in America now that have even turned violent in many cases and would rather the whole thing stopped for now.

We in Nigeria need to learn from that. The protests were very honorable to begin with, with a very simple message #END SARS.
The international community has rallied behind us and the government has responded swiftly too. They have banned the unit and assured that the unit is now rendered defunct with reformation for it's members.
We have to take this win and bide our time, now the protests are being hijacked with all sorts of agenda from different people. The protests are gradually progressing to riots, the protesters are now a nuisance to the average citizen on the road.

These protests have to end now.
LET'S TAKE THE WIN AND BIDE OUR TIME. Else normal people will lose the zeal to continue to support us.

As I said, inventing more false narratives, hyperboles and running with it..

Carry on, at this point, this is just a waste of time and I'm yet to see it's purpose. Because I will surely still point out what I see is blatantly wrong.

This whole effort is geared towards discrediting the messenger but it can't work when there is no leg to stand on..

My endsars position can't be linked to support of buhari in any way. I can't be called a tribalist seeing as I have NEVER insulted an entire tribe.

My support and canvassing for Obi is the absolute right and best thing to do.

So all these character assassination is ultimately meaningless.

Of course, cut and join to form a narrative.

The aim of these is just geared at discrediting me. For your mind. As if that stops my opinions or make you less of a child molester.

Please for the sane ones, when my post is posted here, do well to click the post and see the entire post. Not just cut and join.

This is the entire body of that post.

donjazet:
I swear down, one can't truly understand a situation like he who wears the shoe that pains.

Sometime ago when i watched the news and saw some people run down black lives matter protesters who were obstructing movement with their cars in America, I was like what kind of heartless barbarity is that??

But after spending 5 hours in traffic yesterday because of these fools who don't even know what the're protesting again, my perspective became very much clearer on how those people felt.

At this point, I am asking why we don't just take the win so far and chill and watch how things progress from here.

In America, after the death of George Floyd, millions of people all over the world, came out in support and solidarity with the Black Lives Matter movement. Trump didn't even pay close attention, he kept screaming law and order but at least he held dialogues with police Chiefs that led to slight reforms on police manhandling.

Before you knew it, the protests started getting derailed to other issues that had nothing to do with the original intent of the protest Good or bad as they might have been), People started defacing all revered monuments, started blocking highways and calling for a total abolishment of the police force.
At that point, normal people lost interest and the zeal to still protest and 4 months later, you still have some people protesting for God knows what. The protests are thoroughly unrecognizable from how it started. Everyone is now tired of seeing all these protests in America now that have even turned violent in many cases and would rather the whole thing stopped for now.

We in Nigeria need to learn from that. The protests were very honorable to begin with, with a very simple message #END SARS.
The international community has rallied behind us and the government has responded swiftly too. They have banned the unit and assured that the unit is now rendered defunct with reformation for it's members.
We have to take this win and bide our time, now the protests are being hijacked with all sorts of agenda from different people. The protests are gradually progressing to riots, the protesters are now a nuisance to the average citizen on the road.

These protests have to end now.
LET'S TAKE THE WIN AND BIDE OUR TIME. Else normal people will lose the zeal to continue to support us.

DeadPresidents:
Lekki massacre deniers are on par with Holocaust Deniers in my books. Absolutely unforgivable.

An apology is what any rational person will issue.

I've always sussed this account but only time will tell.

As for your point, one person dead is a very sad occurrence but in context of that night, we were hearing that more than 20 to 30 people had died. That whole day was already complete chaos throughout Lagos with vandalism and theft of places with roads being blocked and traffic at a complete standstill and no sense of direction. I argued that the original cause had been massively derailed, then the news of massacre, started filling the air that night, but absolutely no one was sure if what exactly was happening and i called for calm.

I saw the parallels between the black lives movement and the endsars. Well infact I'm tired. Just run with it nihilist.

Nahh at this point I'm just enabling the false narratives against me and more just keep springing up.

Invent the false narratives and keep running with them
I don tire to defend. Just keep going.

I just hope you all eventually vote Obi. THAT'S THE GOAL!

DissTroy:
Donjazet2, you claimed calling out Raum is your significant ACHIEVEMENT. Achievement!

If his reason for support is tribalism, is the reason for defending Buhari in 2015 to 2022 and claiming EndSARS killings didn't happen wickedness?

In your own words, why would a smart person support Buhari twice and defend him after his abysmal performance in 2015 to 2019?

It seems that you clearly have an agenda because I can't for the life of me get this constant twisting and inventing of narratives towards me.

Disstroy, have you realised that normally you pride yourself in producing receipts?

I'm surprised why when it comes to tackling me with your agenda, you provide no receipts?

Can you provide evidence of me DEFENDING Buhari?
Point out where I have defended buhari even during the endsars saga?

nihilistjnr:
Ask your late sister. She was the house girl I was talking about

Of course the alts at work.

Nihilist here you are seen glorifying your own horrible sexual molestation and rape, can you explain WHY you are glorifying the rape of a young child?

Ihebu4chelsea:
Supporting Buhari's 2nd term!!! And Calling Dayo out everytime!

You see where you guys are getting it twisted??

WHY AM I CALLING DAYO OUT?
Is it not because of the heinous things he has said?? And the basis and motivation for his active campaign of buhari??

I have never called him out because he supported buhari but because of the reasons which we have uncovered was behind it and then the fact that he is now doubling down on an even worse candidate because of that very same reason.
The fact that his only reason was because the VP candidate was his tribes person.

Many good and sane people voted buhari because they genuinely believed he was better than the alternative atiku.
But no good hearted person can say the same right now when there is actually a much better option.

Ihebu4chelsea:
Shocking!!!! Donj. Apologize to all Tinubu and Apc supporters....... You are a part of our problem!!!!

How exactly am I "part of the problem"?

nihilistjnr:
Too many lies.

Nihilist this post glorifying sexual rape and molestation of a child, were they lies?

BlueRayDick:
Yes he did. He was against the protest from the onset and after the shootings he did an "I-Told-You-So" Post.

Blueray, the question right here, right now is;

Were my takes in anyway, Political??

Unlike people who were against the protest for Political reasons, what were my own motivations behind my position on the protests. I'm sure you can do better

TrebleChamp:
Wait Donjazet denied EndSars massacre? So he has his tongue deep inside Buhari's ass, and was blinded to all the atrocities Buhari APC Govt committed until 2022 when Tinubu became a Candidate. Yet he goes about accusing people of supporting APC, when he himself is the chief supporter...

Where are all these false accusations flying in from?

What I was against was the word "massacre". I bet you if you go back to that day, you will not see me in any way defend buhari or his government.

If I recall right, emotions were flying high that night and soo many false stories were flying about, propaganda was abound. And I was warning people to be more cautious about the TERMS being bandied about.

Infact the next day my points were being vindicated with soo many stories and images that were being debunked.

In fact I remember explaining my reasons for my call for caution and toning down the boiling rhetorics. In America that same period, they were protesting black lives matter movement, something which now took different dimensions, became headless, packed direction and led to the destruction of soo many properties, both private and government owned.
.the exact same thing was playing out in Lagos. A protest that started with good intent was derailing into something else and being hijacked by wanton forces, all culminating in that night.

If tempers were not checked, there was reason to believe that a full blown anarchy was in the air.
I've done my best to assuage your apprehension. Go back to that thread and read the pages and reactions to the whole thing.

I never defended Buhari or his government. I was checkmating the false narratives and propaganda that was spreading like wild fire.

Theflint1:
Ah, forget alternate matter sha, that 2019 support for Buhari isn't a good look, especially your saying you'd have voted for the man again if opportunity presented itself despite seeing the failings that have resulted from his government. A badly run government results in needless loss of lives (directly and indirectly), not to mention the brain drain we've suffered since the man came into power, you can't say you'd vote that sort of government into power again.

Even your wishing Obi dead, na another very controversial yarning, if na real-life be this Obidients don suppose dey call for your resignation

Where did I ever say I would like to vote buhari again?
Omo!!

Or else what you're referring to is me saying that given that choice of Jonathan and buhari in 2015, I will still vote APC.

And yes, in 2015 absolutely! In 2019, maybe sit at home or waste the vote but that goes against everything I believe. Our votes has to mean something because we're not exempt from the consequences of leadership. Good and bad.

I genuinely still believe that Buhari was the better choice for 2015. The APC alliance would have broken up and we will be back to a helpless domination of a single party.

APCs victory has paved the way for this incoming Labor party victory.
We definitely needed a semblance of opposition.

And are we really going to pretend like nihilist didn't just dox prosper despite being the one to look for his trouble??

Watch and see now, nihilist will still be the one to go and look for prospers trouble which will inevitably lead to him insulting the guys mother.

wman:
So Donjazet supported Tinubu in 2019?

Wow.

2015 is understandable. But 2019? unforgivable.

I will never rate Donjazet or take his words seriously again. Of course, I'm a nobody and Donjazet can care less about me since my opinion about him doesn't count in the grand scheme of life. I might even prefer to understand people like OasisX and Raumdeuter who at least stuck to their guns, speak more politely and hardly cuss people out for their political choices.

This Saturday, I'll vote for Peter Obi, but I will never take Donjazet seriously again. Anyone that has insulted others miserably for refusing to support Peter Obi should not be someone that supported Buhari again in 2019.

This post is total rubbish but you got one thing right, you could Fvck right off with the opinion.

Where did I support Tinubu in 2019? How did that come about?

In 2019 I weighed both candidates and even though both were bad, I settled on Buhari primarily because I wanted us to still have a multi party democracy.. what I didn't delude myself about was that he was going to work wonders. Hence you don't see me PRAISING HIS QUALITIES past 2015, And there is no pointer whatsoever that atiku would have done better than buhari. The way he ran his campaign then and now tells you all you need to know. He's not a serious person. He just wants the office for the personal satiety.

As i said earlier, shove that opinion where it belongs.

Theflint1:


Donjazet go dey one corner dey ask imsef wetin e do you

At this point I swear whether na nihilist alt account be that.

Because the attacks are just too random, unprovoked and unwarranted.
He's literally barking like a dog without a bone because at the end, the attacks have no purpose.
Like today, what exactly is he complaining about?
If it was the BATstards, I would understand where it comes from, but is he, an Obi supporter, trying to tell me to stop campaigning for Obi??

He's complaining about me calling the BATstards tribalists but I didn't do that today or at least not now so where is the attack coming from exactly??

What exactly warrants the name calling if not something else?

As usual!!
See the sheer number of participants.

In all these;

In 4 days time, please make sure you vote labor party oo. Let these not distract you from the main goal.

Papa, mama, pikin.
Obi is the best candidate on the ballot and he represents a new era of politicking in this country.

His campaign has already changed a lot of things and made deep impacts in our democracy, our politics will never remain the same after this.
Let us go the polls and crown our efforts with victory.

Peace out! ✌️✌️✌️

At least till I arrive home.

BlueRayDick:
There's no emperical data to show that online campaign of someone who lives far away in America made Buhari president in 2019, but there's INEC data to show that Millions of people who voted in 2019 made Buhari president for a second term. You are one among those millions. That's a fact. Just accept it and move on.

Then take the advice I'v always offered, stop getting confrontation with people based on their choice either because you feel they are religious or ethnic bigots or because they make tribal innuendos. Sell ur candidate on his merits, disprove any propaganda u feel is being thrown around to tarnish his candidateship and hope for the best at the polls. That way we can all live happily ever after

Come on, now you're not being entirely honest, you know exactly what I mean.

Every single opinion we have is shaped from information received from various sources around us..
As I said, it's very reasonable for someone to say that I "influenced" his decision to vote Obi.
Just as someone can say dayo "influenced" their decision to vote buhari in 2019.

Infact he was getting ready to do the same thing this election cycle with tinubu, if I didn't stop him in his tracks by revealing his sordid past and motivation of his support here.

raumdeuter:
If you have any question or query against Tinubus candidature and can avoid insults or personal attacks bring it forward and I will address it.

So you know full well what I mean.

There are some voters here who have barely commented on their choice of candidate but will vote and then there are those responsible for shaping the opinions of others. No need to argue over this.

I voted buhari but I barely ever sold him to anyone. In a way, I could even say I was misled by propaganda.

Meanwhile this is the entire post from which that point was made.

That point when people twist words to shit narratives.

donjazet:
I don't see the drug baron winning new votes.

You really think that the average Nigerian is motivated to go and vote for APC again?

We were motivated for APC 4 years ago and 8 years ago. They failed us! Many like us who voted for the APC in the hopes of them starting something new are what you call "dissatisfied voters" and you can bet your ass, a significant portion of us are OBIdient right now.

APC don show us shege, they've rubbed mud in our faces.

Me and Ibime were the strongest buhari supporters on this thread both in 2015 and 2019.

Only people like that vulture griller, mannabbq vulture griller are still making noise for that dead party.

While he doubled down on his support in the face of abject failure of the party. W
We are moving on to a new hope. A fresh party. And you can smell the breath of political revolution in the country.
Watch and see

nihilistjnr:
Why are you claiminng Raumdeuter influenced votes when you had previously said that:


You were Buhari's strongest supporter on the thread in 2019 but now it was Dayo influencing votes...not you?

Help us understand.

Does supporters mean campaigners?

I supported buhari means I voted for him.
Can you point me to where I strongly campaigned for people to vote buhari bar this one post you keep posting?

Disstroy at the end of your rant.

I want to understand the point you are making exactly.

Are you calling me a tribalist for supporting buhari or what? I'm lost as to your actual reason for vitriol.

Fights like these takes the hell out of one's productive time.
Never mind, I'll be back.

BlueRayDick:
Ol boy wetin be this ? You voted for him but didn't campaign for him

Maybe u don't know , ur vote has much power than ur campaign. For example Raumdeuter has been campaigning for Tinubu but he's not voting cos he's far away from Nigeria and doesn't hold a PVC. Ur vote will definitely count more than his online campaigns.

Just own it that u are one of those who rewarded Buahri with second term after a disastrous first term. Nobody go beat u and it doesn't stop u from campaigning and voting for Obi.

See, that statement was to highlight the difference between my activities in both campaign cycles. This campaign cycle, one could reasonably say I have influenced their decisions to vote and vote for Obi via my activism for him.

Just like in 2019 and 2015, one could say dayo had influenced their decision to vote for buhari.

That statement was to highlight the difference in both, there are many silent Obi or tinubu voters here but they're not responsible or a factor for any other person's choice.
So unlike now where I have actively persuaded and sold a candidate to other people, I did not do such in those cycles.

And even after voting buhari, I did not create excuses for his bad governance.
As for 2019, I've said it , we were dealt 2 bad hands, a VP is very inconsequential in any government, I doubt any Obi supporter is voting obi because of datti Ahmed.
Same way Obi was not a factor for many people.

DissTroy:
Donjazet2, this is your PST just 3 months ago in response to a vituperative post directed at Raum for his support of Buhari. You joined in to attacked him for campaigning for Buhari while sly-foxingky hiding the fact that you both were comrades-in-politicking who campaigned for Buhari twice in 2015 and 2019.

And unlike Raum, you directly experienced the misrule by Buhari first hand yet campaigned for and queued to vote for him yet shifted all the blame on Raum who didn't thumbprint on that ballot paper which set Nigeria by 50 years.

Donjazet2, what defence do you have not to have a gazillion times all the angst and vile words targeted at you for blaming everything wrong with Buhari on Raum and the other APC guys here.

Heck! You are more like Buhari than any of them - like Buhari, you refused to take responsibility for enabling bad governance for 7+ years.

If you are not a very stupid fool, why would you deliberately crop out a part of my message and not give the complete part??

he is doubling down now and still misleading people and people can't still understand that this person is a tribal warrior.
I want to make sure that that point is solidly driven home before the elections are here

Are you being deliberately stupid for the sake of being soo?

Donjazet2:
Someone that gets me!
Why I've been been sooo persistent on this is because I think people still do not understand the motive behind the points he makes here especially pertaining to politics.

I want it to be extremely clear to the blind that dayo's motives for political support does not come from a place of primarily wanting to see Nigeria work but just purely on the basis of tribalism. Nigeria working is just a secondary benefit to the first.

You see me lamenting about abroadians as pertaining to this election because people here don't yet seem to grasp that these individuals virtually have no stake in these elections. We are just numbers for their viewing pleasure and satiety.
They are very far detached from the consequences and realities of a bad decision taken during elections.

Look at dayo who consistently and staunchly campaigned for buhari across the board here, rather than hide his face in shame after seeing the disaster than buhari turned out to be, he is doubling down now and still misleading people and people can't still understand that this person is a tribal warrior.
I want to make sure that that point is solidly driven home before the elections are here

DissTroy:
Donjazet2, is it safe to assume the main reason you suddenly think political parties shouldn't matter in elections even though Obi was PDP from 2014 to 2022 was because you want Igbo presidency regardless who which Igbo man had the best shot?

You have continually labeled your fellow pro-Buhari comrades of 8 years as tribalist because they are voting along the same party lines as you did in 2015 and 2019?

If you didn't see anything good in Obi even as VP in 2019 what convinced you in 2022? Hasn't Obi always been saying the same things he's campaigning with now even since 2016 in public events?

Why is Laride who, like you, voted along party lines suddenly a tribalist for doing what you both did in 2015 and 2019, but you are the patriot because parties shouldn't matter now?

Let's leave the characters of the presidential candidates asides. Osinbajo declared too as he's seemingly as gentlemanly as Obi so why didn't you support your APC man during the primaries but wanted a PDP man Obi, a party you swore must never be allowed back to power?

You have started again with the invention of false narratives and making it stick.

Disstroy if you don't show me where I have ever labelled larride a tribalist, then you are a bastard of untold proportions..

Again, disstroy, if you don't show me where I ever called larride a tribalist, then you are a bastard!

You keep doing this over and over again.
You invent false narratives without proof and you run with it.

I have severally made that distinction between larride and the tribalists like dayo, joe and rabbit.

If I call someone a tribalist, I back it up with facts from the person's history.
What I call larride is a party man with a soul for hire. That even if a monkey was the candidate of APC, regardless of the monkeys origin, larride would support and dress him up for the masses.

Mr man stop throwing shit at me to see which sticks. Time dey reach where indeed I will get your time as this election don dey pass, dont worry.