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raumdeuter:
First goal Debruyne beat Blind to the ball very different from Blind passing the ball to Debruyne like Gundogan and KDB did yesterday,
Second goal ball fal to KDB he cut to his left and shot hit the post and Iheanacho buried the rebound

You can only beat a player to the ball when you have pace(running for the ball), blind was simply ball watching and that ball was his everyday of the week, he didn't even contend and that was an individual error, ask the pundits on that day too

Blind again gave him too much space and didn't put any single pressure on KDB which allowed him to cut to his left, individual error, ask the pundits


Did I see you yelling individual errors on that day? NO! Instead it was Pep's ingenuity

Did I see you talking about pep's defensive tactics in the second half? NO! Instead it was Pep's masterclass

Oga, enough with the excuses

raumdeuter:
Controlling a ball and passing to an open Kolarov is Pep style, Or Fernandinho falling is Pep style or John Stones falling asleep and failing to receive a simple pass

Stop giving excuses

Man city's first goal against united was due to blind's ball watching(individual error)

Second goal, poor marking and ball watching(individual error)

I guess that is mourinho's style too

How many of you screamed "individual error" that day? When stoke equalized due to De gea's error, how many of you screamed individual error? Hypocrisy, individual errors my foot

eph12:
I don't think I have ever criticised Jose about parking the bus. I just want to correct that your last sentence. It is very possible to park the bus and still lose.
That said I was among those that cheered Chelsea when they eliminated Barcelona that year by parking the bus so I am a fan of bus parking when that's your best only option.

There is no correction to be made, I never said you can't lose when you park the bus

That statement was based on our lackadaisical performance against those teams, reminiscent of LVG's days at the club, how can man united park the bus against lower teams like watford and Feyenoord and still get beaten 3-1, 2-1?

It's very funny

Lana1:
Lol. In what Universe is it a stated rule that whoever parks the bus still cant lose?? Parking the bus prevents ur opponents from scoring plenty goals. But it doesn't guarantee that u'll win.

Mourinho parked the bus against 10 man Psg and still lost.
Hull City parked against us and still lost.



Against Feyenoord, early in the 2nd half,we were camped in our half and Rashford was isolated up front on so many occassions. Even when the ball was in their half, our midfielders didn't cross the half way line. And we didn't come out to attack until Zlatan came in and we were searching for the equalizer.

I dont need to analyse how the first against City went coz i'm sure u still remember vividly how the half went. And to buttress my point, we were losing at half time despite all our parking during the first half.

Against Watford, we were parking as usual in the 2nd half until a lucky break led to our equalizer. Despite the equalizer and at a time we were supposed to be pushing to win the win the match, go check how many of our players were behind the ball when Watford scored their second. We parked to the extent that Pogba was passing ball to ref


At least Chelsea back then and Atletico used to park bus with purpose. Them go park, counter and still go on to win. A very good example na Chelsea vs Barca 2012.
But for us, we just dey park to avoid defeat. Park Bus and hope for the best.

U people go on and on about how Pep is a fraud. Well me i say Mourinho is a very useless manager with rubbish one-way tactics!!

Really? When a team parks the bus, they are supposed to have less possession/ see less of the ball but in those games against Feyenoord and watford we had more possession, more passes completion, more shots, more corners

How is that? How can a team park the bus and still beat its opponent In every positive statistics? I'm finding it difficult to understand

Can you also explain how boring mourinho's team has created more chances per possession than any other team in the top flight? How can a park the bus team achieve such?

AdisaOwala:
I still dunno why you are always too quick to defend Mourihno untop this Bus-parking tactic when it's a Strategy that would always be synonymous with him.

Instead of the Examples you gave, i'd rather go with these Chelsea Games under Mourihno (during his second spell at the club)....

Vs Man Utd (at Oldtrafford that ended 0-0 in the 2013/14 season under Moyes). I remember Chelsea started that game with no recognized Striker yet Costa or Eto (cant really remember) were on the bench.

Vs Liverpool at Anfield (the Match wey Gerard's mistake cost him a PL title).

Mourihno made a defensive sub against 10 man Psg and Chelsea were still knocked out of the CL in that match

I am not defending Jose's park the bus tactic, we all know him for that but saying we've been parking the bus under Jose this season is a very big lie

Which team parks the bus and still record this amazing stats?

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/row-zed/man-united-been-premier-leagues-8933300

I am tired of you guys blowing things out of proportion

[quote author=Lana1 post=50365049][/quote]And how exactly did we park the bus against those teams? I thought we lost those games 3-1, 2-1 and 1-0? I thought parking the bus prevents your opponents from scoring plenty goals?

Now lemme give you 2 examples of bus parking

Barca vs chelsea 2012

Bayern vs Atletico 2016

In which of those games did we park the bus like chelsea and Atletico against barca and bayern?

Is it not funny that we lost the games you claimed we parked the bus in?

Lana1:
Lol. Better dont let the spirit of ollah1 possess u this afternoon. Pep is good. But the moment Pep gets Knighted by the Queen and he wins up to 13 league titles(in a single league) and over 40 titles across all league competitions and cup competitions, then we can start to put Pep in the same sentence as SAF!! That being said, Pep is better than Mourinho. And their head-to-head speaks for itself


That was then. And, imo, sitting back and waiting for counter is much different from Park the bus system like we played in the 2nd half on monday where we had like 8 bodies at the edge of our box.


You are right. SAF used to sit back and wait for counter against teams he thought were better, like Arsenal. And we've also seen him go all out against the same Arsenal and destroy them 8-2. That's a manager who has a plan A and B.

The only tactic he knows is Park the bus. That's his plan A. He has no plan B. I've seen us Park this season against City, Liverpool and even against small teams like Feyenoord and Watford. The few times dis season we ve left our own half and dominated the game and created few chances was against small teams and that was bcoz those teams sat back and allowed us time on the ball.

To be honest, wen ve u ever seen Mourinho go out and play attacking, entertaining football against a major rival?? Everything he knows na just boring Park the bus type of football.

Mourinho is a useless and boring manager!!

Name one match this season were we parked the bus bar the liverpool game(second half)

Lucky goal indeed, na make bravo dey do Yoga?

Nihilist:
You just can't help yourself,can you?

You sef, you no dey overlook something?

What about the Southampton game?

What about the bournemouth game?

What about the Northampton game?

What about the Leicester city game?

What about the second half of the Manchester city game?

What about the stoke game?

What about the zorya game?

All I see here is painment, hate and bad belleism

Man united have created the most chances per possession in the league this so what nonsense are you guys spewing here?

When chelsea faced liverpool, y'all were pressed like rumpled clothes even after falling behind in your own fncking stadium, did y'all see the light of day against Arsenal?

Chelsea fans and hypocrisy are like peni.s and condom, so fitting

AbuMikey:
.....and not even 1 Person commented!

Chai!

Hahahahahaha, their papa, after I suffer copy and paste from goal.com

bigkesh:
Smh.....stop embarrassing yaself

How many goals did Zidane and iniesta score?? He didn't need goals to win the best player award back to back

Stop fooling yourself

You said he led his Lille team to the league title, explain to me how he led his team to the league title? Is it by wearing the captain armband? Or by scoring vital goals that won them the league? I want to believe it's the latter, so I ask again, How many goals?

Answer it as it has been asked, don't want long stories

bigkesh:
Who led Lille to the French league title?

Oya talk nonsense

By scoring how many goals?

bigkesh:
Lille?? Young man,take a sit

147 apps, 36 goals at Lille, Find a class young child

bigkesh:
I thought it was Hazard vs Martial,KdB and Neymar


Now its Hazard vs Martial,Ronaldo,Messi,Kdb, Neymar,Rvp,Costa,Fabregas and maybe De Gea

If you don't rate him,you won't compare him

Nope, it was hazard's output vs mkhitaryan's output, and hazard's directness vs martial's

bigkesh:
What is ya p?
From Martial you jumped to Mkhi and KDB,now its Costa and Fabregas

Your arguments keep changing shape and colour like Pogba's hairstyle

We are talking about players in your team, but let's dance to your tune

If I want league titles, I won't call on hazard or martial, goals and assists win titles not skills and fat asses, so if I want a player to carry my team to a league title i'll call neymar(brazil and barca) mkhitaryan(Shaktar)


Hazard?

AbuMikey:
You are already so impolite to the poor boy na

Nah, that was me being very nice

bigkesh:
And if you want a player to carry your team to the league title,who would you call?

Costa and Fabregas

raumdeuter:
How did Ibra save them from a loss? Did he even shoot on target?

One on one with the goalkeeper and he headed wide, 9 times outta 10 he would have scored that

Bye

raumdeuter:
At least a shot would need to be on target first

https://twitter.com/OptaJoe/status/788125250760347648

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35% - Man Utd recorded just 35% possession against Liverpool; their lowest figure in a PL game in Opta's records (2003-present). Passive.

I did not ask you for opata stats, David saved us from a loss, Ibrahimovic saved them from a loss

C'est fini

raumdeuter:
A genius for doing what exactly?

Do you know the this might be one of the most expensive sides ever assembled in football? and without any form of imagination?

He is currently 7th in the league

Only DDG saved them from a loss

Only Ibrahimovic saved them from a loss, so?

hensben:
you lack common sense, It has always be your problem.

You lack basic education, your illiteracy oozes all over the place and your ignorance reigns supreme

Act like you've got some sense when next you talk to me because I won't be this polite next time, now shift

Nihilist:
Pogba is like bambi on ice. He can't seem to Saturday on his feet for 5 minutes.

No be only Saturday on his feet, na Friday on his feet

LoRdCaT:
I hear we have been playing well, can you confirm this?

Yes we have, but there have been little end product

A very cautious approach from both sides

LoRdCaT:
Abeg wetin him do?

He fool one guy, he acted like he wanted to pass the ball

Leyqute:
Am I seeing double?

Lol, na true na, I dey call spade spade

Una see wetin pogba do there?

Fellaini is intercepting very well, always at the right place

Leyqute:
I didn't have high hopes before and now my sentiments are unchanged.

With the way we are playing now my hopes are back to being high

Caveatemptor:
support your colour

Sure, but seeing fellaini makes me weak

Well, at least lingard didn't start