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TV/Movies › Re: BBNaija 2021 Live Updates Thread by DOptical: 9:37pm On Aug 03, 2021
Gbegirsoup:
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They wickedly ignored that part. Shameless bandwagoners!
You dey mind them? The Sheeples.
TV/Movies › Re: BBNaija 2021 Live Updates Thread by DOptical: 9:02pm On Aug 03, 2021
Demnan:
Hypocrite. Shior
Mention the Hypocrisy or shut your hole!

Debunk any of the facts or shut your hole!
TV/Movies › Re: BBNaija 2021 Live Updates Thread by DOptical: 9:01pm On Aug 03, 2021
Freethinker87:
I'm not convinced Pere served in the US Army. His knowledge of the army is very basic and indefinite for someone who served for 6 years. His description of IED, troop formation and general military practice is very blurry. Even someone who has watched a substantial amount of Hollywood movies can be better descriptive. Heck, he couldn't even mention the regions he has served in. He did mention Afghanistan but when Maria asked him if he's been to Dubai he said "I don't know men" like WTH!

He said served in Afghanistan for 4 years but was never in an active zone. Even a medic in the US Army serving in Afghanistan must have seen combat. Pere dey whine us abeg.
Pere has a photograph to back up the claim. I don't know of his rank but he didn't lie.
TV/Movies › Re: BBNaija 2021 Live Updates Thread by DOptical: 8:56pm On Aug 03, 2021
Demnan:
Getat. Hypocrite
You're the hypocrite. You can't even debunk any of the facts I pulled up except to attack. Same way y'all attacked Maria unprovoked yet cry whenever Whitemoney's game gets analysed. No one is even insulting him sef like y'all did to Maria. Some people even sent her death threat sef.
TV/Movies › Re: BBNaija 2021 Live Updates Thread by DOptical: 8:47pm On Aug 03, 2021
Demnan:
Ediot
Just admit it. Maria did nothing to your Whitemoney.

First, Whitemoney isn't above nomination. Sink that into your skull.

Secondly, Whitemoney annoyed her with his constant harping to downplay her efforts in his bid to score points for himself and he got what he was looking for. He's kept quiet about the wildcatd harping ever since then. The nomination was enough lesson for him to stop using anyone to score points for himself. He's obviously learned his lesson. I hope so.

Thirdly, same Maria even still did a mini campaign for Whitemoney during her diary session.
TV/Movies › Re: BBNaija 2021 Live Updates Thread by DOptical: 8:35pm On Aug 03, 2021
Demnan:
Use the same excuse you just used for her for WM, too. It wont bite you in the a$$
What excuses? Must be ment..
TV/Movies › Re: BBNaija 2021 Live Updates Thread by DOptical:
Demnan:
God, see you being blatantly hypocritical. How is deliberately making men fall in love with you when you have no intention of reciprocating all for a game not using someone and just about their aura? But WM being loud is not just his personality or aura, too?
Did she ask anyone out? Did she ask anyone to ask her out? Did she ask anyone to fall for her? She's not even flirting sef. You don start the same usual nonsense this season? So she's the problem because some guys fell for her in the house? Must be ment.

What if she was a guy? Should the guys be blamed for any ladies crushing on the them too? Na ment?
TV/Movies › Re: BBNaija 2021 Live Updates Thread by DOptical: 8:22pm On Aug 03, 2021
Demnan:
Then you should also call out Maria whose game plan is to make all the men fall for her
I did say Maria game is a bit similar to that of Nengi's. She's got the men's attention just like Nengi albeit she's not flirting around or scantily dressed. I think it's just her aura. Anyway, I don't see how that's a bad thing.. Beautiful ladies always have men attention around them.

Point is she's not using anyone to score points for herself. She had even done a mini campaign for Whitemoney in the diary room.
TV/Movies › Re: BBNaija 2021 Live Updates Thread by DOptical: 8:10pm On Aug 03, 2021
Beorn:
First of all, Big Brother is a "game" despite it being a reality TV show. If you can succeed to hoodwink majority of the fans with your fakeness or realness and win the show, then you've achieved your aim. Laycon was accused of playing the poverty card but guess what? He's won and he keeps winning. Those that didn't play the poverty card lost INSIDE the house to him. History will always remember him as the winner, whatever card he played worked for him. Do you know Erica has been tagged fake by her detractors? Do you know Nengi has been tagged fake as well? Miracle has been tagged fake by his detractors. Efe was tagged as being fake as well. In short, I can't remember a popular HM that wasn't tagged fake, so fake or not, play the game and get people to like you. I personally believe none of those HMs are 100% real, it's not every part of them they are showing and if I enter that house, I'll keep some part of myself hidden.

You mentioned Whitemoney volunteered to still cook last night after being up for eviction and I'm wondering how exactly is that being fake or showed he has impure heart? I think you're letting your dislike for him sprial out of control. The night Whitemoney entered that house, before Maria or any girl were introduced, before Pere and Whitemoney started their hidden power tussle, before the wildcards became an issue, before anything else that transpired few days ago happened, Whitemoney asked the male HMs about things they can do. He asked them about their abilities in cooking and when no-one was eager to take up the mantle of cooking, he told then that he'd do it and that he can cook. He already said this on the first night and has since been doing that. So, why should he stop cooking because he's up for nomination? How does it make sense? If he had stopped, the same you would still tag him fake for reneging on his promise and accuse him of being bitter. Either way, he's still not winning you over coz you've made up your mind that's he's fake. He cooks or not, you won't like him. Simple.

Thirdly, Beatrice has been the most oppressed lady or HM in that house not even Whitemoney but she still entered the kitchen to wash plate and help Whitemoney out despite being up for eviction. She was even dancing while washing the plates, yet your focus was on Whitemoney being oppressed and still cooking for them. This is nothing but hating. If Beatrice can be oppressed, up for nomination but still be in the kitchen, why should Whitemoney in the same shoes as hers quit cooking? You've got no point.




People react differently to aggression. Some people would have given it to Erica hot, hot and probably cop a fine or get disqualified with her like how Mercy and Tacha went at each other, or decide to play it calm and let their opponent detonate and take themselves out of the game. Like I said, this is a game, Laycon's acts and words got Erica and Erica let him get under her skin. If I was in Laycon's shoes in that house, I'll keep quiet too and let my opponent fûck his game up. But if it was on the outside, I'll give you gbas gbos. It's not me being fake, it's me controling my reaction so I don't get disqualified. Do you think Tacha would insult those hefty males outside the show like she did in their set and not get her teeth knocked out from her Jaws? Do you think Tacha outside the house will knock down Ike's cigarettes and Ike won't fůck her up? Those males kept quiet and let Tacha insult them because of what was at stake. They weren't fake.

I love Erica and will always do, but she allowed Laycon out-maneuver her. It's game and no matter how angry she might have been at Laycon for refusing to tell her when next she tried to kissed him, in the days leading to her outburst, the truth is she couldn't control her anger and it got the better of her. I'd feel angry if I was in her shoes, but I won't act the way she did. Erica wears her emotion on her sleeves but her inability to control her anger got the better of her. If Whitemoney is playing a script, it's sure working for him. Maria too has been tagged fake and accused of playing a script. Las las, all of them are playing a script.
First, whatever script anyone wanna play out, it's gonna get called out!

Secondly, I won't tolerate it if any housemate tries to use another to shine/score points for himself and elevate himself while the stupid sheeple viewers join to propagate the rubbish outside and attack the innocent housemate. What happened to Esther in the house because of Frodd is still something I can't forgive!
TV/Movies › Re: BBNaija 2021 Live Updates Thread by DOptical: 8:05pm On Aug 03, 2021
innocentdude:
Do you ever have anything good to say about him, anything at all ? You don't even necessarily have to like him but just anything positive at all
Lol. I call out what I see about him. I haven't even attacked him or called him names like his fans did to Maria. I only called out his games. He sold pity stories and was called out for it. So what's this wailing about?

My other narrations were based on the discourse on comparisons made by other commentators here.
TV/Movies › Re: BBNaija 2021 Live Updates Thread by DOptical: 7:53pm On Aug 03, 2021
innocentdude:
" Haters ". You Haters have never seen anything good in what he does so it's not really that surprising actually
Lol. Everything is hater hater. Lol he sold a pity story and people called it out.

Whitemoney is the best thing since sliced bread.. Okay?
TV/Movies › Re: BBNaija 2021 Live Updates Thread by DOptical: 7:42pm On Aug 03, 2021
innocentdude:
He focused on what he wanted to and he has every right too


Must he go the same route as everyone else ? The fact he does what he wants and doesn't follow crowd is one of the main reasons we like him sef, say way he was able to get Pere as the wildcard when no one else did
And you shouldn't have a problem with people who says he's selling pity stories because he did.
TV/Movies › Re: BBNaija 2021 Live Updates Thread by DOptical: 7:37pm On Aug 03, 2021
innocentdude:
I thought they said he was Poor grin grin

I await your next senseless narrative grin

Una go cry taya this season
Nobody said he was poor. Why he's dishing out sufferhead pity stories is what I don't understand tho. All the guys have hustled like him. He should have focused on what he's doing presently like others did.
TV/Movies › Re: BBNaija 2021 Live Updates Thread by DOptical: 7:21pm On Aug 03, 2021
Vlain:
Laycon played Tobi’s script and now White money has taken it a notch higher.
I don't think Whitemoney is playing Laycon's script. Whitemoney's script is similar to Frodd's. Frodd would always tell pity stories about the suffering he went through bla bla bla.

Not just that, he was so overbearing yet would always play the victim whenever he was nominated by the housemates even though his overbearing actions were the reasons for it, for example he pulled up a tantrum and played the victim when Ike didn't save him but Omashola. He had this sense of entitlement. He was annoyed when Elozonam nominated him too.

He was always cooking in the house too. Of course he did love food but it could also have been part of his game. There was a time he he had problem with Ike/Elozonam because of nomination, he still went ahead to cook and was even talking about how he would cook for his enemies bla bla bla. Lol.

His pity stories, victim play plus using Esther to portray a scorned lover was what helped his game from the very bottom to the top 5. These made the viewers overlook lot of his overbearing actions (he had problem with most of the housemates back then) & his lies, for example, he had denied asking out Venita during the final weeks in the house (I remember Seyi and Omashola calling out his lies). He was always saying it was only Esther he had eyes on, even though he did kiss and cuddled Isiloma, asked out Jackie, Mercy etc and of course Venita who had just came in as one of the new housemates. He was obviously trying to sell off a lover boy who loved only one lady to the viewers and the young Esther had taken the fall for it.. Also his pity stories about how he suffered. That was what helped his game.
TV/Movies › Re: BBNaija 2021 Live Updates Thread by DOptical: 3:54pm On Aug 03, 2021
Broobembem:
Whitemoney didn’t tell any housemate who he had in mind prior to the wildcard naming, why will he tell Maria how he knew?

Why?
Why was he harping on it and downplaying her efforts to score points for himself sef? He even continued on the next day sef. What was the point?
TV/Movies › Re: BBNaija 2021 Live Updates Thread by DOptical: 3:49pm On Aug 03, 2021
Broobembem:
Another assumption, did Whitemoney tell you this?
I didn't mean it literally.

I meant Whitemoney's action was asking for Maria's anger. And she gave it to him. He's probably realised the gravity of his actions, did you see talk about the wildcard again?

Anyway, I feel Maria felt remorseful after it.
TV/Movies › Re: BBNaija 2021 Live Updates Thread by DOptical: 3:29pm On Aug 03, 2021
tongue
Broobembem:
Another assumption
That's not assumption. That's what remorseful feels.

Anyway, you did know your Whitemoney was asking for nomination? Since he's been nominated, did you see him harp on the wildcard again?
TV/Movies › Re: BBNaija 2021 Live Updates Thread by DOptical: 3:22pm On Aug 03, 2021
Broobembem:
But Maria didn’t give this as her reason for nominating him.
Being remorseful is thinking of how you could have let it go and not act on it.
TV/Movies › Re: BBNaija 2021 Live Updates Thread by DOptical: 3:17pm On Aug 03, 2021
SefunmiHookups:
Team WhiteMoney, pls do not bye that Maria's lie. She is cunny. She nominated him out of anger. She was thinking straight. Don't fall for her remorseful lies.
Maria is not cunning. You never heard about being remorseful after letting out the anger? Your Whitemoney was simply asking for it. He wouldn't stop harping and down playing her efforts to score points for himself. He wasn't the only one in the house ffs.
TV/Movies › Re: BBNaija 2021 Live Updates Thread by DOptical: 3:09pm On Aug 03, 2021
majorbravo:
Arin is so annoying like gosh. I mean....WhiteMoney is even better than this bvtch.
How she escaped nomination is still something I don't understand.
TV/Movies › Re: BBNaija 2021 Live Updates Thread by DOptical: 2:53pm On Aug 03, 2021
Broobembem:
Maria told Pere not to nominate his Friend Whitemoney, then went in and nominated Whitemoney.

Was that real or fake?

I must catch you today.
But that was earlier na. Maria eventually changed her stance when Whitemoney wouldn't stop harping and downplay her efforts! She said she would nominate him and she did. That was why I said if Whitemoney was attentive enough, he would have simply shut up about it. He wasn't the only one in the house.
TV/Movies › Re: BBNaija 2021 Live Updates Thread by DOptical: 2:39pm On Aug 03, 2021
safarigirl:
WhiteMoney- Laycon

Maria- Erica

That is the history.

Nengi na just extra for that film.
Maria is Nengi & a bit of Erica. Got several guys' attention (albeit without lifting a finger, flirting or being scantily dressed) yet still keeping up her guards.

Her situation with Whitemoney isn't even about love story. Lol. She just didn't like that he was trying to downplay her efforts while using her to score a point for himself and if Whitemoney had been attentive, he would have shut up earlier but he kept on repeating and even continued on the next day. He was simply asking for it. She's obviously let it go now that she's let it out.

Meanwhile I don't even think it was the saga between Laycon and Erica that won it for Laycon. It was because of his humility. He was the one coming up with the several ideas during most of the group related tasks and winning it for his group, for example the Jonny walker task where he had came up with the design of Scotland, Nigeria and England's flags. He also wrote the presentation which was read by Vee. The housemates were always fighting to be included in his group for example, Vee, Nengi Tbaj, Lucy etc yet despite all these, he was so humble. His creativity, task prowess and music were what won it for Laycon. He's kind of easy going. It was his situation with Erica that was the only ish he had in the house. In fact, the stuffs with Erica almost ruined his game sef because Erica had enough social media influencers to overturn it and trash Laycon anytime he was complaining about his feelings for her, to the extent that Laycon's fans started praying for him so he wouldn't talk about her. Lol.
TV/Movies › Re: BBNaija 2021 Live Updates Thread by DOptical: 1:09pm On Aug 03, 2021
Tatiana4u:
Maria can reject pere for all I care but she doesn't have any right to feel jealous when he sees her kissing another girl.
Period!
She's got the right to air her mind like Pere has been doing too. The double standard. It's Pere who keeps sending people to her.
TV/Movies › Re: BBNaija 2021 Live Updates Thread by DOptical:
innocentdude:
But it was a game na, or is T or D no longer a game that shouldn't be taken seriously undecided
It could be game I know but for people who already had their emotions involved, I doubt. Although with Maria, nothing has really happened between herself and Pere but I believe she's only keeping up her guard and won't like to be played hence she's watching out for players. You should know she doesn't do fake.

But with Lilo back then, Eric and Lilo were already sharing bed and feelings were already involved and anytime Eric did rubbish, the camera would pan on Lilo and people would start to troll her further. She was always getting trolled here and there even when she was not doing anything. People had said she was the one throwing herself at Eric and Eric wasn't helping matters yet it was same Eric who was always shadowing her around and was even dragging her from other guys on the dancefloor. I still recall a time Kidd had told Eric that he wanted to help Lilo in the kitchen but he wouldn't budge. He kept hanging around her yet brought her no game apart from spoiling her game with his shenanigan and lack of personality. I wonder why he kept on wailing after the house after Lilo had dumped his ass.
TV/Movies › Re: BBNaija 2021 Live Updates Thread by DOptical: 12:29pm On Aug 03, 2021
Tatiana4u:
Pere kissed a girl and Maria kissed a guy but she's acting all jealous and ranting like a scorned woman especially when Pere asked her out...after the deed was done .
Isn't that hypocrisy?
Would you have said this if pere had shown any traits of jealousy after she kissed another guy?
But Maria wasn't the one who went to ask out Pere after her peck with Cross. Cross was even angry she didn't kiss him well sef.

Let's admit both did stuffs in the first t & d and kept it moving. Second t & d, he did his stuff and should have also kept it moving. Why go ask out Maria after such nonsense?

This reminded me of a situation between Eric and Lilo back then. Lilo should have simply told off Eric who had probably believed he was the hot take and could do whatever he liked. He would do rubbish in t & d game whereas Lilo would keep it cool yet he would still be the one shadowing her around while Lilo would keep sucking up his bullshit. Lilo was the one who was always getting trolled by the viewers back then. Lilo was even angry at one point and had sent him away from her bed but he wouldn't budge and would keep sending Neo to her and before you know it, Lilo would start sucking up to him once again. No wonder he couldn't believe Lilo could dump his stupid ass after the house especially after his shenanigan with Wathoni after she left. Lilo should have done that dumping early in the house as she would have gone further in the game without his lame dull ass without personality. Of course she's learned better now.

There's need to have your dignity intact! Maria doesn't take bullshit and that's allowed! She's not obligated to say yes to his proposal or like him.
TV/Movies › Re: BBNaija 2021 Live Updates Thread by DOptical: 12:04pm On Aug 03, 2021
Tatiana4u:
She's not obligated to say yes to him,so why is she mad at him for kissing Beatrice in a game she also participated in,even before he asked her out?
Isn't that entitlement?

"No fake zone,no pretence either"...like seriously?
Please don't get me started!
She's airing her mind. She's got a right to do that. Pere hasn't kept quiet about it either. He'd even sent people to her. Always look at the two sides. Don't call out one person for the same thing the other person is doing. That's Hypocritical.
TV/Movies › Re: BBNaija 2021 Live Updates Thread by DOptical: 11:52am On Aug 03, 2021
Tatiana4u:
Why is Maria still bickering about pere and Beatrice's kiss?
Who does she think she is?
Is pere her bf or he is under an obligation to to be exclusive to her? lipsrsealed
I just hope she doesn't antagonize Beatrice... undecided
And Maria isn't obligated to like him or say yes to his proposal either. It's two ways street!

That should tell who Maria is. She doesn't take bullshit. No fake zone. Don't try to bullshit her or her efforts yet come to portray nonsense to her. She's got her dignity intact. No pretense either.
TV/Movies › Re: BBNaija 2021 Live Updates Thread by DOptical: 11:36am On Aug 03, 2021
MamBi:
Maria was before Pere and Arin was after Pere.

So WM should have called Pere and Maria OR Pere and Arin grin

Liquorose far from Pere..

But WM disclosed that he did not want to name Maria sha...
It was a guess. In his mind, one of them would be right and he would claim the glory. Albeit he named Pere out of jealousy. He knew nada. If he knew, he would have atleast outed Pere to the housemates
TV/Movies › Re: BBNaija 2021 Live Updates Thread by DOptical:
DownChelsea:
Yet Malaria is alleging that he knew about them all along?

Now who's more confused? You or Malaria?
Lmao grin
What did you expect Maria to say when he kept parroting the BS? She's obviously exploring several options.

Point is he knew nada!
TV/Movies › Re: BBNaija 2021 Live Updates Thread by DOptical: 10:15pm On Aug 02, 2021
Froshloaded:
Lmao...

This is a game, if faking it will help you win, so be it.
Why attack those who are real with their emotions then? I myself won't take it if someone tries to use me to score points for himself while downplaying my efforts.

Maria had a right to her anger. And it's just one week ffs. They didn't come together on the show and moreover they had issues before the nomination hence there shouldn't be any claim of betrayal. Maria actually gave him a chance to explain himself and tell her how he knew if she was a wildcard but he had nothing to say except for parroting everywhere that he knew but protected her bla bla bla. What about Pere? Na small pikin he dey whine? Why downplay Maria effort?
TV/Movies › Re: BBNaija 2021 Live Updates Thread by DOptical: 10:08pm On Aug 02, 2021
aduntemi:
Please, if it helps you sleep better grin
You have nothing to back it up except for propaganda and conjectures.

We deal in fact!
TV/Movies › Re: BBNaija 2021 Live Updates Thread by DOptical: 10:02pm On Aug 02, 2021
aduntemi:
And you know this how?
Because the fact says so!

He only started saying such after declaration had already been made. If he knew, he would have outed at least Pere to the housemates considering the bad blood between them. He only picked Pere because he was jealousy of his closeness to Maria. He didn't even know Pere was the wildcard, let alone Maria.

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