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kennakarter:
Thank you sir. Leave those ones wagging their mouth They can't even read. Who said I sent money to him If you can't help why not just shut the Bleep up I'm putting this up here so no one else will fall victim even you two And ya there telling me to..... woo I'm not in the.right mood oo If you don't have a way to help me kindly move ahead ahead

sorry sir, you're free to keep making noise here.

keep sending screenshots to nairaland instead of law enforcement agencies you hear...

dest4real:
Why is my GTBank card not woking for international payment....i got transaction declined error message for a 50 USD payment!

have you made any payment this month?

computerboy:
Please nobody is talking about first Bank. They're the only bank licensed to sell dollars to BDCs. Who know if their card is working?

they also sent out suspension notice.

Singapore1:
you too dey take things serious .. i will continue quoting you

mitigbo
na una dey allow pesin form seriousness & unnecessary "officiallity" for here, and no be my style at all.. I no serious reach like dat... to dey type correct English sef dey always bore me like crap.

kaboninc:
Lets cut the mods some slacks na...

And mod sef, no be every thing you go respond to na.

very true but some people think they can just make up a false theory, spread it and get sympathy with such and sit pretty with themselves. Most times, I overlook the flimsy ones but I tend to reply those that have taken it as a livelihood.
People should approach issues differently, maturely and without sentiments while respecting the other person's view. Even if you have a contrary argument, present it in a logical, rational and civil manner instead of being rash and gunning for the personality of the other party, that's when I respond in similar mode.

Kovic08:
This will be the last time I will ever quote you on this forum

When you ban me for having alternative moniker did I ever make noise about it? ( even though I don't use it and I am very sure you did it)

Is this the first time I will be mentioning crypt.o? Did I mention anyone here? And I am ban here ( and I know you are not the mod here, )
And you as a person you know how many times I have mailed you? Have you ever respond

Have a nice evening

Of what importance is it if you never quote me again? If you please go back in history and delete all the former quotes, such drama doesn't get to me.
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You used an alternate id which is clearly against the rules and also publicized it (it may have been overlooked if u didn't) and I banned it, what's wrong in that? I simply enforced the rules, so what?
.. and the antispam bot that banned you didn't ban you because of just the word "crypto", you made mention of other words therein and I deliberately made the post visible after the spambot hid it. compare the post with the one justi4jesu made earlier and you'll see them.
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I don't respond to mails especially if it's an antispam bot ban, I simply clear it, why should I respond when the system already stated the reason for the ban? I only respond if there are other issues within it.

bdavis:
Na wetin dey always pain me pass be this: when you ask, you never get a response, you just get access restored. . Shouldn't there be a response if one actually breaks the rule? So that it helps to keep one on track and you know what and what to avoid? Cos let's face it, sometimes you get banned and even though you comb through the rule book like you dey prepare for visa interview+exam, you still can't fathom why.

Na my own experience be dat sha o

@csckid (hmmm) if you meant Tabbaz, na sure guy, aunty bookie don ansa the others, me I no know justice skrill o

like I said earlier, when you get a ban, the reason is duly stated in your profile but unfortunately to some people, every ban was carried out by the mods.
using your case as a scenario, I have only banned you once and the miriads of ban you get are from the spambot but almost every time you speak, you play the "ban me" victim card as if it adds a dime to my pocket.

Kovic08:
i am very sure i didnt break any rule and i didnt post any link

why play the victim unnecessarily? anytime a ban occurs the reason is usually stated in the user's profile. and in your case it was the antispam bot and the reason was duly stated in which case you can simply mail the mods instead of coming with an alternate id (which is also against the rules).
The same words you posted was what earned justi4jesu a ban this morning by the antispam bot (I guess due to it's relation to cryptocurrency which is against the rules) but she never came here to make noise about it.

Singapore1:
CASE 2
you said dell and co are refuting BTC .. yet they accept it as method of payment in their site , please let's stop deceiving ourself here.. these people are making huge profit by accepting payment in btc and yet they will come out and tell us we shouldn't trade in btc because of its volatility, please is there any trade that is not volatile at some point?

No one is saying you should trade or not but nairaland is saying don't use it's platform for such just as a landlord may choose to let his shops to a beer parlor operator or not.

Bookiemart01:
Dragnet
Bdavis
Freeworld23
Janice (the real MVP)
Una well done

Winetapper.... Shebi it's their father's properties

I however suggest that we open a thread to discuss on reasons why we should keep /amend rule 16[b] "Don't promote shady investments like betting, HYIP, MLM, FOREX, binary options, and cryptocurrencies on Nairaland." [/b]

I believe some of the points raised by pro BTC peeps hold some water... We can't just say because rule 16 exists, it's final.... Seun, super mods, ordinary mods, nairalanders all need to debate this.

it was done back then.

https://www.nairaland.com/3094693/promotion-betting-forex-binary-options

bdavis:
You missed the reference...I wasn't comparing paypal...you mentioned paypal, a payment medium/method...then you went ahead to mention a currency: naira and I jst replaced your currency(fiat) reference with another currency (digital)

Guess you got muffled up by me after all.

Was applying the same ruling you applied to naira, to cryptos...cos are the same thing...currencies.

So if the currency is not what constitutes shadiness...then what does? He who uses it. Abi does currency which is an inanimate object scam?

I cleared your query in the next post.

and from what's clear, the term shady isn't due to what people do with it or people's perception about it, it's due to the irregular and unstable nature of the trade and this is evident from all the trades that were grouped together in that rule, hyip, betting, forex and the likes.

bdavis:
If bitcoin falls into the category of crypto (which it does) then by your rule book (which came into being when?) then that makes it shady and should be banned.




Now transposing your own argument:

Paypal has not been turned to a shady venture, people commit fraud with the bitcoin (cryptos) etc, does that make the bitcoin (cryptos) shady ventures?

Your own argument just nullified you.

So going by your argument, it is not the medium of exchange that makes it shady, but he who uses the medium.

Have I muffled things up again

You're still doing same. PayPal is simply and basically a payment method just like payoneer and alipay it's totally different from bitcoin which is basically a cryptocurrency right from scratch. so you can't apply same ruling to them.

bozz007:
This is disrespectful and if I were him, I would give you what you are looking for.

unfortunately for him not of his speculations are true or reflect my person so I'll just ignore them, his comments so far do not correlate with what's being discussed.

bdavis, stop all this wealth or age crap, I don't compete with anyone. I guess you're on about it because I usually use the "2 yr old" stuff, it's just part of my "talk" and nothing deep.

bdavis:
Now I don keep make I observe as e dey go b4 I come talk ma own...let me do what I do best: say it as it is:

@booz007, @whitetiger511, whilst I agree with you that the fault of the rule is not that of @dragnet, and @booz007, your take on what should be done to address the issue I agree with, the problem is with the way @dragnet presented 'his case' it was done in the the most lousy of ways and he said things that shouldn't have been said, practically insulting@Freeworld23 and myself included, which was aptly noted by @janinie. @booz007, your comment that @freeworld23 should be banned was uncalled for and out of place you started out well, then killed it. Why?

Why should someone get banned cos they are airing their views to a topic under discussion? Nothing he said was out of line till @dragnet practically said he was silly.

Down the line, he now sort of backpedaled and gave a suggestion that he should have started out with in the first place.

@tumababa: I concur...

@dragnet (of course you knew I was coming to you) after all, who I epp if my 2yr old personality no kick in? You have a way of addressing peeps like say na you dey garri dem, it's not proper (ok, make I no sugar quote am)...it's [i] wrong[i/]. Even if na you born all of us, we all don mature and as a result definitely deserve respect.

Yeah some of us might not be up to you in age or bank balance and some of us surpass you in all areas die! But whatever the case is, respect is reciprocal. If you carry catapult dey stone bird, you no fit complain when the bird fly come poop4ya head na.

Regarding tracing of IP, guy forget that thing. Be it dynamic or static, e no matter, you always leave your fingerprint. Even if you dey bounce your IP upandan, all over the continent and into space, it just makes it more difficult, if una wan do am, una go do am, unless of course you are saying NL does not have capable hands to effect it.

@freshcvvs (Omo dis Ya moniker dey always kill me! ) @aleair: abeg make una tell dem biko

@freeworld23: I like how you state things matter of fact, abeg if our parts ever cross, 1black label4u...

@singapore1: finally! You don grow wings. usually, you run out when discussions like this dey happen...is it cos you now have the samurai sword abi na the babe wey gree grow your liver?

(runs out of thread in fear of singapore1's samurai sword)

Comes back cos of @ladyF: that tiny 3letter word wey you put there I sight am o

you have a way of muffling things up, I replied many people and my response is always reciprocal to the way I'm initially replied except I just choose to ignore.
Singapore1 brought his arguments and I responded with refutations, Freeworld merely came with insults and I didn't even insult him, I didn't call him silly, only stated that the suggestion was silly and made out of ignorance(because it didn't show that he knows how these things work, is that not ignorance?) and one can be ignorant in anything, so it's nothing personal.

People always seem to ignore the fact that apart from being a mod, the mods also have a normal user life and most of these rules affect them in same way but notwithstanding you must enforce the rules.

It's good to know that there are a few people that can still read between the lines and avoid being sentimental just because they won't miss an opportunity to "take a swipe" at the authority, if it makes you sleep well at night, feel free because I don't budge.

It's quite disheartening that people don't know the difference between a payment method and a cryptocurrency or deliberately playing ignorant just because they're involved in it or why should you be comparing bitcoin with PayPal or justifying one with the other? Yet people would start forming "reliable" crap here. Whatever happened to speak the truth even when it affects you?.

If there's really no issues with bitcoin as a cryptocurrency then simply submit your views, arguments about it to the admin and seek for a change in the rules and it may be granted instead of attacking personalities.

Some people just love being drama kings/queens, who is asking you to worship anybody and what benefits come with such? A mod has slight privileges to that of a normal user so what's the biggie? This is a public forum and everyone has a right to air an opinion no matter how stupid or silly it is, as long as it is within the rules.

bdavis:
Bless you@bolded, na wetin I don dey talk since day 1 o...how difficult is it?

The bolded you quoted is a silly suggestion, it's only made out of ignorance. banning of IP isn't a solution because we use majorly dynamic IP adds and I keep reiterating that nairaland has it's jurisdiction in as much as it doesn't condone criminal acts to be performed on it's platform, there are limits and the disclaimer takes care of that.

bdavis:
But we all know paypal has been turned to a shady venture. 99.99% of scams on NL are as a result (directly or indirectly) of paypal.

Also, the question is: when was the rule written especially the part concerning cryptocurrencies?

PayPal has not been turned to a shady venture, people commit fraud with the naira etc, does that make the naira a shady venture?

FreeWorld23:
na now u see am? Btc dey affect your business/deal? Talk better thing abeg

If you can't make reasonable comments then it's best you don't make any, thanks.

Singapore1:
I can list over 50 website where BTC is now use as a payment method sir

listing over 50 websites isn't a factor to not classify it as shady.

Singapore1:
that was then nigbati OJU DUDU, now that everybody understand the way BTC works i don't think it's shady anymore and if BTC is banned then other currency should be banned too, especially PAYPAL ( which is the one that always cause problem here )

PayPal is listed as a payment method and not a cryptocurrency.

Singapore1:
and btc is not shady

Seun says it's shady, according to what's stated in the rules. Maybe you can prove otherwise to him but as long as the rules remain that way, then bitcoin trading may be on it's way out of here.

16. Don't promote shady investments like betting, HYIP, MLM, FOREX, binary options, and cryptocurrencies on Nairaland.

does bitcoin not fall into the category of crypto?

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dominique
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naijacutee
puskin

tumababa:
Yes worked. So 200$ spent in d month. Will try the 3rd one tomorrow. Might bE lucky

alright...

tumababa:
Ok. Will try again tomorrow and see

tried?

xffhcvv

tumababa:
no wonder. 110$ didn't go. only 100$ worked. thanks

I think it's $100 per day and $300 per month.