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I was actually wondering how we got to this point, and I guess you were reacting to my post "Rubbish".
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.is it not indeed Rubbish? or what better response suits the post "Ways To Rock HIJAB For Different Events" as depicted by the author of the thread?
If He was talking about fashion or the likes, maybe I may have just wandered past the thread. But that one word was my way of showing disapproval of the blunder he commited.

The explanation of the hadeeth "actions are with intentions" isn't as widely misunderstood by people.
and contrary to what you said earlier, there is a guideline for everything in islaam, so there is a right to say "this action isn't part of islaam".

ayinba1:
As Salam alaykum warahmatullah wa barakat. My description of Islam as a path is not a pun. It is a "way" which means you continue to strive. It is utterly disappointing that you would compare this to saying it's okay to drink alcohol when it is expressly forbidden by Allah . I believe every muslim/muslimah has the right to strive, and as you strive, it is expected that you will improve.
I still strongly believe that I am in no position, neither are you actually, to toss anyone's actions in the dumpster. May Allah ease our affairs and keep us firm in His path. And make our efforts acceptable to Him, ameen.
It is good to encourage one another with kindness and wisdom. Allah knows best.

I really had to quote you this time,
Just as you know that alcohol is expressly forbidden, thats the same way that Allaah has totally forbidden the muslim women to not cover their bodies, remember suratu Nur vs 31?

Surah Al-Ahzaab, Verse #59
‘O Prophet! Tell your wives and your daughters and the women of the believers to draw their cloaks ("Jalabib" veils all over their bodies (screen themselves completely except the eyes or one eye to see the way Tafseer Al-Qurtubi) that is most convenient that they should be known (as such) and not molested: and Allah is Oft-Forgiving Most Merciful."

Surah An-Nur, Verses #30 and #31
‘And Say to the believing women to lower their gaze (from looking at forbidden things), and protect their private parts (from illegal sexual acts) and not to show off their adornment except only that which is apparent (like both eyes for necessity to see the way, or outer palms of hands or one eye or dress like veil, gloves, head cover, apron), and to draw their veils all over Juyubihinna (i.e. their bodies, faces, necks and bosoms)

and also the prophet said "The whole of a woman is unclothedness" , so you see why covering is waajib?
remember this hadeeth?
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."Abu Hurairah (May Allah be pleased with him) said:
The Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) said, "There are two types of people who will be punished in Hell and whom I have not seen: men having whips like the tails of cows and they will be beating people with them, and, women who will be dressed but appear to be naked, inviting to evil; and they themselves will be inclined to it. Their heads will appear like the humps of the Bactrian camel inclined to one side. They will not enter Jannah and they will not smell its fragrance which is perceptible from such and such a distance. "
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and also in an authentic hadeeth, A’ishah related that Allah’s Messenger said “Allah does not accept the prayer of an adult woman unless she is wearing a Khimar or hijaab.”
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All the above are just to show you how important and sacred the act of being covered is, so if a man can't drink palmwine or a lesser grade of alcohol with the intention of striving to stop drinking alcohol, then same applies to the one on scarf, and the intention isn't to condemn, rather, it is only to affirm the rulings and encourage them towards it.

so if one learns good arithmetic from a brothel, that makes the brothel not blameworthy?

Allaah says **translation: "help one another in good and piety", eating mawlood food is going against the directive of Allaah. plain and simple.

The prophet never celebrated his birthday anniversary while alive, after his demise, the companions didn't, those that came after them didn't till that tyrant innovated it. If there was any good in it, would it have been so avoided by the pious predecessors?

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Infinitikoncept:
Yes sire. The foreign exchange thread, new importation way from China thread, 1688 buying thread. The option to reply has been removed at the bottom page while to quote will tell me I should try again later sire as if na cocacola

Lol @coca-cola, From my end I can't see any restrictions on your account but you can send a message to Mynd44 to have a look into it.

Infinitikoncept:
Cc dragnet don't know how best to contact you but I've noticed I can't comment,quote or do anything on threads I'm following. Need your assistance in that regard. Thanks

till present?

Etinosajay:
Dragnet is viewing

I haven't said anything, until d new year. I trust u understand

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and it's really disheartening to see people wait relentlessly for information & updates.
Chinosxl should have a nairaland Rep or at least an arrangement to take care of this.

cc: dominique

and here's a blogger trying to earn stipends from broadcasting a way of disobedience to Allaah.
. Allaahulmusta'aan

islam is a path, not a destination? all those are just puns.
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Islam is a religion which entails submission to the will of the Creator. and adjust our lives to fit islaam & not adjusting islaam to fit our lives.

The texts are clear. why would someone chose what is inferior for what is best ? except in extreme cases of persecution, there are no excuses. and even in such cases migration is allowed.
the first thing one should think of is, can you defend that position before Allaah? is there really no way out? and Allaah never burdens a slave with that which.is beyond it's capability.
no matter the level of striving, a scarf is worthless, in fact it is of no value. did anyone ever hear any injunction regarding scarf or covering the head? the directive is to cover the whole body because the awrah of the female is the whole body. so nobody has no right to give a thumbsup to a scarf. that means the one wearing a wig can also be appreciated abi? the head is covered na?
or One can drink alcohol with good intention?
#the texts are clear, nobody has any right to lower the standards.
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and my post shouldn't be misconstrued that I'm against those struggling, No. We'll keep praying that Allaah ease the task for us all because no one can claim to be the ultimate Muslim yet but we should also be sincere to ourselves. these things are seemingly difficult for us because of the level & importance with which we handle our deen & the pedestal on which we have placed our Creator. We allow competition between Him and our desires, our friends, bosses, colleagues & other creatures.

Ahmed4002:
Jakallahu Khairan

Aameen wa antum fajazaakaLlaahu khayran.
we all face such issues & though it may not go well with us, we can only pray Allaah makes it easy for us to abide by his rules.

Luckysbab, Aameen.

OA2:
Yes, mine definitely weren't so I was a bit confused. Anyways, guess we can all move past that.

inciting and all comments linked to or surrounding it.

***according to my definition.

tumababa:
To me, the thread is no more helpful because the OP is no where to be found to update the first post like stanley did.

If stanley is back from camp we can go back to his thread.

He stopped updating it that's what gave birth to this.

Yes, islaam encourages us to keep family ties, but you can keep family ties & spend time with them but not at the time when they're being disobedient to Allaah. in fact it'll be better to even stay away from them during such time to show disapproval of such acts.
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.another point of concern is this "Christmas",
1. The 'Jesus' we know in islaam is different from the 'Jesus' they're celebrating.
2. They're own 'Jesus' is a god, is your's a god ?
3. They're own 'Jesus' was crucified on the cross, was your's crucified ?
4. they worship their own 'Jesus', do you worship your's?

I can go on and on with all the differences. You should know that once you choose to congratulate them and celebrate with them on this day & event, then you're approving of what they're ascribing to their own 'Jesus'.

I hope you'll understand the little I've tried to explain and also from what those who posted before me made clear.

Ahmed4002:
I am nonetheless appalled by the unauthentic opinions of some self claimed scholars who equate spending time with one’s non Muslim family during Christmas and the like with shirk or polytheism! This opinion is rather a mere aberration of the true authentic teachings of Islam both in letter and spirit.
Islam is a religion of mercy and it is an all encompassing value which includes all humans regardless of their religious affiliations, cultural differences and ethnic backgrounds and it encompasses plants, animals along with inanimate objects as well. In other words, the concept of mercy in Islam is so grand that it envelopes the whole universe, wouldn’t it apply one’s own mother too?
As a matter of fact, God in the Quran did not only allow us to keep ties with non-Muslim families but He raised the level of recommendation and made it an obligatory act which Muslims should abide by and this is obvious in the Quran when God said:

[” But if they (your parents) endeavor to make you associate with Me that of which you have no knowledge, do not obey them but accompany them in [this] world with appropriate kindness and follow the way of those who turn back to Me [in repentance]…” (Quran 31:15)

In this noble verse, God commanded us to keep warm ties with our families even when they exert their utmost efforts and place pressures on us to leave our religion. So what then about those who show respect to our religious choices and do not insult our belief in any way or form? Should we not even be more eager to show extreme kindness, and envelop them with mercy in our sayings and deeds to be a real embodiment of what Islam is all about?
Muslims show utter love to God’s creation in general as a sign of reverence to their divine origin and Islam placed unprecedented importance to the concept of high morals and made a unique connection between good ethical standards and between faith and creed. The Prophet (peace be upon him) said

“The nearest of you to me in the Day of Judgment are the ones who have the highest morals”.

Therefore we are commanded to show kindness to all people, and to treat them with mercy and love, and to refrain from discriminating against them based on their religious choices, cultural backgrounds, or the like.


[s] There is no legal impediment to participating in celebrating the birth of Jesus (peace be upon him). Islam is an open system and its followers believe, respect and honor all the prophets and messengers, and treat the followers of other religions with kindness in accordance to the words of God the Almighty:

“And dispute ye not with the People of the Book, except in the best way.” (Quran 29:46)

Jesus the son of Mary, peace be upon him, is one of the Prophets who are characterized with determination, resolution and patience. Prophet Muhammad [pbuh] said:

“I am more entitled to Jesus the son of Mary than anyone in this life and in the Hereafter; no prophet has been sent between us.”

Every Muslim believes that Jesus is a human prophet who performed great miracles, such as reviving the dead and curing the sick by the will of God the Almighty.
This was not because he was a god or the son of God in the sense of physical procreation—God is exalted above this. Celebrating the day of the birth of Jesus is an act of belief regardless of Christian convictions in his regard. Therefore, participate in your friends and family’s celebrations, eat with them and refrain from eating pork and drinking alcohol with tact and civility. Do not pay any attention to anyone who wants to ruin the relation between you and your family and others in the name of Islam because Islam is free from all of this.

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Bi salaam, Allah knows best

Bro, you've muffled everything up whereas the matter is clear & simple.

Mubis:
Bro what I think is next to tell you is to fear Allah and fear the day you will meet with him.
If you feel being accepted is what defines your faith then I tell you no.
If that's how the person gives you food everyday and you accept, but also make it clear to him that you are a Muslim, you don't celebrate Christmas and you hope the food is not for the celebration.
But what is best to me is to reject any SPECIAL attention, greeting or food on this day to show you abhor the celebration. Allah knows best
Like I said earlier fear your Lord and know that he knows what is in the deepest part of your soul.

baarokaLlaahu feekum

Mubis:
Bro what I think is next to tell you is to fear Allah and fear the day you will meet with him.
If you feel being accepted is what defines your faith then I tell you no.
If that's how the person gives you food everyday and you accept, but also make it clear to him that you are a Muslim, you don't celebrate Christmas and you hope the food is not for the celebration.
But what is best to me is to reject any SPECIAL attention, greeting or food on this day to show you abhor the celebration. Allah knows best
Like I said earlier fear your Lord and know that he knows what is in the deepest part of your soul.

baarokaLlaahu feekum

to you it may be extremism, but to the one that chose to do so it's not because he would have a backing because he isn't pleased with the person's religion/religious commitment.
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Abû Hurayrah related that the Prophet (peace be upon him) said: "If a suitor approaches you and whose religion and character please you, then let him marry. Otherwise, there will be a lot of immorality and corruption in the world." [ Sunan al-Tirmidhî (1084) – authenticated by al-Albânî]

is it the head that's meant to be covered or the body? that's the misconception trailing all these actions.
and both action & intention have to be right. if the action isn't right, the intention is useless. that's why Allaah always mentions "those who believe & work in righteous ways" and not just those who believe.

rubbish.

Singapore1:
i like what you just said "has been useful not "being useful"

that's the simple truth.

mavinc4u:
Na wah. oga so many hidden post. what happened? we are learning here.

I took off the inciting posts.

if una no need the thread again just let me know so it goes in the bin! . .but if you ask me,.the thread has been useful.

I advice that you don't respond to posts just because you must say something or just because you want to oppose the salafis at all costs, this would be detrimental than beneficial in most cases because it would lead to denying some of the sha'aair of islaam and I hope you know what that means.

and you're bothered when it is stated that the person praying in isbaal's solaah wont be accepted? remember hadeeth 10 of annawaawi? the one who eats haraam, drinks haram and is clothed in haram, couldnt it fall under this? moreso there's also a direct hadeeth regarding it.

The hadith in Sunnan Abu Daud, hadith no.638, Bab al-Isbal fi al-Salah: Abu Hurairah narrates that: “A man was praying with his garment below his ankles when the Messenger of Allah , peace and blessings upon him, said: ‘Go and repeat your Wudu.’ So the man went and did his Wudu and returned. The Messenger (peace and blessings upon him) again said: ‘Go and repeat your Wudu.’ So the
man went and repeated his Wudu and returned. The man asked: ‘O Messenger of Allah what is it that you told him to do Wudu (again) and then you did not say anything?’ The Messenger of Allah (peace and blessings upon him) said: ‘He was praying with his garment below his ankles, verily Allah (may His mention be magnified) does not accept the prayer of a man who lowers his garments.’”
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Some have challenged the authenticity of this hadith. The fact is the hadith is sound and has also been narrated by Imam Bayhaqi in his Sunnan, vol.2 p342, Kitab Karahiyyat Isbal al-Izar fi-Salah. Imam Nawawi in Riyad al-Salihin has
confirmed that it is Sahih, hadith no.797.

the texts are clear and free of errors, the one that doesnt understand them should strive to do so instead of negating them.

I can only pray that Allaah guides me and you before the sun rises from the west otherwise your hate for salafiyyaah and love for the sufi path would only lead to destruction.
Sufficient is the path of the pious predecessors that have gone before us, striving to be like them because we can't be better than them and also understanding the texts as they did and stopping were they stopped.

It was also narrated that while on the deathbed about to die after being stabbed, Umar still rebuked a man for trailing his grment below the ankle, if it wasn't so important or grievous, why would a dying man still have time to think of rebuking it?

Ruling on wearing one’s clothes below one’s ankles

Assalamu Alaikum

A brother was telling me that wearing clothing below the ankles is haram and that there are many hadiths that prove this. I would appreciate your opinion on this matter.

Jazakallah

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Praise be to Allaah.
What your friend has told you is true. Many ahaadeeth were reported from the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) which forbid isbaal (wearing one’s clothes below the ankles), for example:

Al-Bukhaari reported that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: "Whatever of the izaar (lower garment) is below the ankles is in the Fire." (al-Bukhaari, no. 5787)

The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: " There are three whom Allaah will not look at or praise on the Day of Judgement and theirs will be a painful punishment: the one who wears his garment below his ankles, the one who reminds others of his favours, and the one who sells his product by means of making false oaths" (reported by Muslim, no. 106).
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The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: " Isbaal (wearing one’s garment below the ankles) may apply to the izaar (lower garment), the shirt or the turban. Whoever allows any part of these to trail on the ground out of arrogance, Allaah will not look at him on the Day of Judgement ." (reported by Abu Dawud, no. 4085, and al-Nisaa’i, no. 5334, with a saheeh isnaad).
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Ibn ‘Abbaas reported that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: " Allaah will not look at the one who wears his lower garment below his ankles ." (Reported by al-Nisaa’i in al-Mujtabaa, Kitaab al-Zeenah, Baab Isbaal al-Izaar).

Hudhayfah said: "The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) took hold of the muscle of my calf (or his calf) and said, ‘This is where the izaar should stop; if you insist, it may be lower, but it should not reach the ankles.’" (Reported by al-Tirmidhi, who said this is a saheeh hasan hadeeth; see Sunan al-Tirmidhi, no. 1783)
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All of the ahaadeeth quoted above speak against isbaal, whether or not the intention is to show off; but if a person does this deliberately out of arrogance, there is no doubt that his sin is greater. The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: "Allaah will not look at the one who trails his izaar on the ground out of pride." (al-Bukhaari, no. 5788)

Jaabir ibn Sulaym said: "The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said to me: ‘Beware of wearing one’s lower garment below the ankles, because this is a kind of showing-off, and Allaah does not love showing-off.’" (Regarded as saheeh by al-Tirmidhi, no. 2722).

No one is able to be completely free of pride and arrogance, even if he claims that this is so. Such a claim is unacceptable, because by saying it, he is praising himself. Only in the case of those whom the wahy (revelation) testified that they were free of pride do we believe that this is the case. For example, there is a hadeeth which states that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: "Whoever trails his garment on the ground out of pride, Allaah will not look at him on the Day of Resurrection." Abu Bakr said to him, "O Messenger of Allaah, my izaar slips down if I do not pay attention to it." He said: "You are not one of those who do it out of pride." (Reported by al-Bukhaari, no. 5784)

What indicates that isbaal is prohibited even if it is not done out of pride is the hadeeth of Abu Sa’eed al-Khudri, may Allaah be pleased with him, who said: "The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: ‘The lower garment of the Muslim should come down to mid-calf, but there is nothing wrong if it is between that point and the ankles. Whatever is lower than the ankles is in the Fire. Whoever trails his garment on the ground out of pride, Allaah will not look at him. " (Reported by Abu Dawud, no. 4093, with a saheeh isnaad.)

These ahaadeeth describe two different deeds, for which there will be two different punishments:
Imaam Ahmad reported that Abd al-Rahmaan ibn Ya’qoob said: "I asked Abu Sa’eed: ‘Did you hear anything from the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) concerning the izaar (lower garment)?’ he said, ‘Yes, listen! ‘The izaar of the believer should come to mid-calf, although there is nothing wrong if it comes between there and the ankles, but whatever is lower than the ankles is in the Fire,’ and he said it three times."

Ibn ‘Umar said: "I passed by the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him), and my izaar had slipped down. He said, ‘O ‘Abdullaah, pull up your izaar!’ so I pulled it up. He said, ‘More!’ so I pulled it up more, and always made sure it was pulled up properly after that." Some people asked, "To where did you pull it up?" He said, "To mid-calf length." (Reported by Muslim, no. 2086; al-Dhahabi, Kitaab al-Kabaa’ir, 131-132)

The issue of isbaal applies to women just as much as it applies to men. This is indicated by the hadeeth of Ibn ‘Umar, may Allaah be pleased with him, who said: "The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: ‘Whoever trails his garment on the ground out of pride, Allaah will not look at him.’ Umm Salamah said: ‘O Messenger of Allaah, what should women do with their hems?’ He said, ‘Let them go down a handspan.’ She asked, ‘What if their feet show?’ He said, ‘Let them lengthen it by a cubit, but no more.’" (al-Nisaa'i, Kitaab al-zeenah, Baab dhuyool al-nisaa’).

The punishment for showing off may come to pass in this world, not in the Hereafter. Abu Hurayrah reported that the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: "Whilst a man was walking arrogantly admiring himself and his clothes, Allaah caused the earth to swallow him and he is suffering in it until the Day of Resurrection." (Reported by Muslim, no. 2088).
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The shubuhaat of showing off is cleared by this hadeeth where the Prophet expressly stated that the act of trailing the garment below the ankle is in itself showing off!
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Jaabir ibn Sulaym said: "The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said to me: ‘Beware of wearing one’s lower garment below the ankles, because this is a kind of showing-off, and Allaah does not love showing-off.’" (Regarded as saheeh by al-Tirmidhi, no. 2722).

There's no confusion in the texts except for the one who isn't sincere or the one whom Allaah hasnt opened his heart or the one who has chosen to follow his desires over the commandment of Allaah.
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The next post does justice to this issue and should be my last on it.