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tutucious:
Thank you Mikky... I have received from Mikky the final payment in respect to one of the missing iPhone 6s in October 2015.


Mikky I know It wasn't easy but you did well as a sincere business man. Keep up the good work.

all of una with big big phones sef, dey cause hold up for the poor man...

ikecinho:
I accept mickky's offer,but I still think it will be better if he can help me resell those items especially the mini laptops as it doesn't sell well here.
I will post the screen shot of my payment receipts of the said item here.
Sure I will be patience with him as long as things are going as planned and discussed here.

Thanks for the consideration.

ajideakeem:
can some one give us sample of prayer b4 /after d meeting in such mixed gathering.

opening or closing prayer for programmes is alien to islaam.

AdisaGaniyu:
[b] I seek refuge in God from Satan the rejected.
In the name of God, Most Gracious, Most Merciful.

Question: Is buying lottery tickets or playing PowerBall or similar games permitted?

No, Islam (Submission) does not permit buying lottery tickets. In the Quran, God prohibits gambling and games of chance in very clear terms (2:219, 5:90-91).

*Intoxicants and Gambling Prohibited*

[Quran 2:219-220] They ask you about intoxicants and gambling: say, "In them there is a gross sin, and some benefits for the people. But their sinfulness far outweighs their benefit." They also ask you what to give to charity: say, "The excess." GOD thus clarifies the revelations for you, that you may reflect, upon this life and the Hereafter ...

*2:219 The world now recognizes that the economic benefits from manufacturing alcoholic beverages and illicit drugs are not worth the traffic fatalities, brain damage to children of alcoholic mothers, family crises, and other disastrous consequences. Check with "Alcoholics Anonymous" and "Gamblers Anonymous" for more information. See also 5:90-91.

*Intoxicants and Gambling Prohibited*

[Quran 5:90-91] O you who believe, intoxicants, and gambling, and the altars of idols, and the games of chance are abominations of the devil; you shall avoid them, that you may succeed. The devil wants to provoke animosity and hatred among you through intoxicants and gambling, and to distract you from remembering GOD, and from observing the Contact Prayers (Salat). Will you then refrain?

Chapter 5 verse 90 and 91 are very strong injunctions against lottery, gambling and games of chance. God calls these, "abominations of the devil". Can there be a stronger reason to avoid them? If we love God, and know Satan is our enemy (Quran 35:6), we would never ever touch lottery or play slots or gamble at a casino. It is worth noting that the strong injunction to "avoid" is used for idol worship (16:36). Gambling and the lottery are that bad. It is just not worth the damage to our souls.

As we read in 2:219, while there may be some benefit (as proponents of the lottery argue), the damage and sinfulness far outweighs any benefits. Even if one has extra money to spend, and it's not destroying a family's finances, God recommends using that money for charity (They also ask you what to give to charity: say, "The excess." instead of gambling or the lottery.

We know that people who gamble and get drunk, usually have terrible social interaction. They are prone to arguments and fights and a few even end up killing one another. Families are invariably hurt with gambling problems, and people have ended up losing their homes and life savings in some case. It is no coincidence that Las Vegas has one of the highest suicide rates in the country.

Regardless of whether one has "a problem" or "addiction", gambling takes us away from remembering God. We're preoccupied thinking of the next bet, or how the next ticket will make us rich and solve all our problems. Instead, we should turn our focus to God Alone. Only God can make us rich or solve our problems.

[Quran 53:48] He is the One who makes you rich or poor.

*Happiness Now, and Forever*

[22:15] If anyone thinks that GOD cannot support him in this life and in the Hereafter, let him turn completely to (his Creator in) heaven, and sever (his dependence on anyone else). He will then see that this plan eliminates anything that bothers him.

Peace[/b]

add this too to the list.

Latest Tweakware

dhateeboi:
SubhanAllah The salat is invalid? Even if? And u think u can just say that with no proofs?

I believe he means if Obama isn't a Muslim and he led them...

joey150:
How did they get your email password then?

this is more like a targeted attack.

zenith4biz:
I intended buying android TV tuner to watch offline television but I would like to hear from those who had use the tuner before.

Will the tuner be able to receive signal in Nigeria?

till 2017 when digital broadcasting has been fully deployed.

...and please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please.

I have a life, I don't live on nairaland, I'm also human.
But, I don't fraternize unnecessarily, I don't accept gifts on the job just because I'm a moderator, when I deal with people, I don't tell them I'm dragnet. I've had business dealings with most of you, one on one, face to face but you can't and wouldn't know.
Even companies that come to nairaland to offer free products for testing & endorsement I don't respond to them because it could easily lead to request for unnecessary favours.
So please if you want to accuse me, do so with evidences.

and please note that I've also been in the system at whatever category you want to speak from, purchase, sales, shipping, as a client, a customer, defrauded, lost items, complainant and even still handling cases in court and whatever category you wan name. So I have an idea of a bit of everything.

and please nobody should bring up the issue of who is responsible bla bla bla, because that's a very long and unpleasant route which wouldn't easily favour any of the parties.
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Mikky should please press the agents and their guys to still investigate the whereabouts and the mishandling of the items right down from the courier to wherever it may be. it's possible that the items turn up somewhere unexpected and this whole episode ends.

Now to the issue at hand,
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I'll plead with both parties to return back to the point where the item was declared missing. I will advice that they both disregard and forget whatever has transpired and happened between then and now.
ikecinho, please give room for consideration and don't be hell bent on maintaining a rigid position.
Mikky, please stop playing "god" anymore and go back to the state where you were trying to find a solution or plan on how to refund ikecinho.

ikecinho, I'm not saying you should relinquish your quest for refund but try stand in mikky's shoes and assume you're him. running a business where the income isn't up to a tangible fraction of the item's worth and some items get missing not directly due to your handling but through a third party, and currently you're still paying back refunds to some others whose items were also lost in transit possibly due to the sticky fingers of some custom officials or the likes.
How comfortable does that shoe feel? So I believe you may have an idea of why you got the initial reaction from mikky, it's not because he is insensitive, it's just a "normal" reaction.
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mikky, I'll also like you to consider ikecinho's position, imagine one of those cars you ship to Nigeria was suddenly just nowhere to be found, upon all the papers you processed and all, you've been in this business long enough so I don't think I need to explain too much, and you know how the economy is at home, so you should understand how ikecinho feels too and why he has been reacting the way he has.
But I'll sincerely say that you made a very good step by offering a compensation, even though it may not have been accepted by ikecinho, even though it may have been too small when weighed but the truth is you took a step and even a law court would consider that as a step in the right direction even though it would be revisited.
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So I'll like to say at this point that, ikecinho and mikky should go back and privately try to reach a compromise. Mikky has taken a step further by offering items for sale in order to recoup cash but Mikky can you please help him sell them? because people would buy faster from you, (you sef know say saybeven if you sell chewing gum people go prefer buy from you...Lol ). so please reconsider that stand.
ikecinho, I don't know how you arrived at 300k but I believe you know the value of what you bought, you can show mikky the invoices and try to work things out. I know how you feel but please, please and please, you have to mix patience, compromise and consideration in solving this matter.
Both of you should get off your high horses, you're both men, so it should be easier.

I want everyone to remember that there's an adage that says "once the string of a bead is severed, it's a bit impossible to accurately gather back the scattered beads."

Once again I'll like to advice the detractors to hold their peace and stop aggravating the situation unnecessarily, or would any of you volunteer to refund the loss? Of course most of you wouldn't, yet you'll ruin the whole atmosphere of reconciliation by running your fingers on some cheap device while making the hatred for either of the parties your motivation.
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Nobody is asking anybody for what has already happened, it's quite clear. what we need is a way forward while upholding the interests and saving the business of both parties and keep them coexisting.

unfortunately this story is true.

tim26will:
Oh ok, but .........well just to justify your position, if you can handle it , I think it will be more appropriate, but not outside your jurisdiction though.
Thanks

it's like I have no option but to say a thing or two because it's like mediation isn't coming in from the expected quarters.

Akerekoroabijawara:
E be like sey Dragnet no dey sleep anymore o. See how e dey hide posts anyhow for this thread.

na una dey cause d sleeplessness

tim26will:
Dear dragnet, since people seems not to understand how to handle life's issue and it's becoming of the guy in question friends or "foes". Pls kindly instruct him to post the item number of the items missing and the captured of the transaction invoice which detailed the tracking number. So we can start the calculation from there and start the process of his refund on negotiations.
Pls dragnet, kindly lets do this so we can finally sort out this issue and restore the peace of this trend.
Thanks

there's a moderator whose job this is, and has been briefed.

Coldplay007:
I got your mail....
However, Hyprocrisy is when you delete my messages and allow the last few posts stay...

I don't live on nairaland, and extensively on this thread.

Bookiemart01:
I still think you are partial anyway. The way you have handled issues on Business section on Nairaland is somehow and I think Seun needs to call you to order. You pulled down some of my posts on Nisibor's thread last year.

I know you may ban me but then, I do not really care as truth is bitter

Madam, how many times will I tell you that there's jurisdiction on nairaland? I'm not in charge of everywhere. I just try to help out sometimes when such spills over. and why should I ban you? except you've broken a rule.

[quote author=Coldplay007 post=42754099][/quote]I sent you a mail.
Nobody is trying to hide anything and all what you've said isn't rocket science.

the case is under arbitration so temperaments need to be under check.

Most people commenting are merely aggravating the situation by unnecessarily heating up the atmosphere with unfounded remarks out of spite and this wouldn't favour any of the warring parties.
Majority of them know next to nothing about conflict resolution, instead of helping both parties to find a compromising resolution to the issue they're just drifting them apart by every word spoken.

NB: I decided to pull back because in conflict resolution, once one of the parties doesn't feel comfortable with the mediator, then there has to be a change.


Henceforth, any post which goes against the rules or isn't helping the situation will be deleted and the poster may be prosecuted.

Anyone who is making comments about the case should please do so constructively & in a civil manner. I don't want to start deleting posts and the likes which would make people run their mouths as usual.
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Mikky reported the case to me even before the person affected made a post here. I made a move & contacted the person involved, even mikky didn't know his username. I got the username myself and sent him a message. But I've decided to back pedal because it seems he has his mind made up even though we have never interacted before. Because I can already see him throwing allegations here and there. I may not totally ignore the case though, I'll just forward it.
cc: dominique

tumababa:
Get your amazon gift cards at the rate of ₦255 per dollar.
Contact through whatsapp at 08053250698.

Oga dragnet, sure you will agree this is not paypal.

Lol... same nooni

no more exchange rate monitoring? looks like it's all about PayPal adverts now.

at least, the egg is from a chicken

Bookiemart01:
This post is totally off tangent!!!!
where are the mods sef?
Why do i need to use GEN when there's INVERTER and minimum of 16 hours power supply?

gerarrahia

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next time please use the report button, it makes the job easier because the moderators aren't "omnipresent" and they do have their life outside here, so help make their job easier and nairaland a better place.
I hope you do understand this. Thanks

I don't know why information on payment methods would cause such attitudes, most of you deal in different categories & have distinct niche, so why the beef?

and if I remember vividly, it's due to a thread like this that made it possible for people to know that different banks have different exchange rates & also the "Almighty cheap stanbic" was given publicity here due to revelations by forum members of which some people got their whole families registered just to maximize such benefit.