₦airaland Forum

The latest info is that they have all been released and on their to the state capital to be received by the governor.

ziondaughter247:
Shameless man! 'Going abroad is empowering to women', just see what you typed! Those western countries you are running to have female presidents, vice presidents, prime ministers, etc and one of the reasons they have thrived is because of gender equality. . I continue to thank God that jail term and deportation is waiting for abusers like you, if you ever go there. Oga Lord of Africa, you are not ashamed as a man to carry your ghana must go bag to live in western countries, while your shithole is wallowing in underdevelopment? Honestly, I dey shame for you. Typical useless Nigerian man! They cannot produce anything, but can only consume! That's why nigeria is in this mess today and you are there bragging about someone else's country which they have built. Upon this you're still a 5th class citizen over there oooh, the lowest of the lowest in the scheme of things

All the vitriolic vituperations you poured on me is borne out of truth being bitter. This is not hearsay, we are living witness with plenty of experience in that area. All your abuses don’t border me one bit. Those who have ears will hear.

Going abroad is empowering to women. The laws in western countries are pro-women. This empowers the women and they misbehave big time with such opportunity. Only the highly religious ones keep their sanity for fear of God. If you must take your wife abroad, think deeply about it and pray fervently. Because your best girl in Nigeria is likely to be your best enemy when she gets abroad. The truth is that majority of men who come home to marry or take their wives along after many years staying alone at foreign countries are responsible men. But their wives ruin their lives when they get abroad.

Fahdiga:
The sultan should shut up. after grooming different terrorists groups in the past. it's time for northern Nigeria to enjoy the fruit of it labour. all northerners are not terrorists but all terrorists are northerners

That includes Evans and IPOB, they are all northerners.

Aisha warned her husband that he is hobnobbing with sharks and devils who did not know or have anything to do with his election. The stubborn Buhari refused to listen to his wife. These friends will eventually bring him down and destroy him. And the country is also suffering for his stubbornness.

Kaduna1stson:
The Amotekun is a surprise which the south west sprung on us to intimidate the north. It was not part of any agreement. This Amotekun issue can make us shift our support to a North central candidate like Yahaya bello if Tinubu cannot call his people to order.

Are you trying to say that killer herdsmen were sent by the north to kill southerners?

Nato008:
like the way the shouted it while beheading that dude in France abi....no talk that thing aga biko

Even a lunatic can shout that.

Joshmanuel10:
Yes cos u know what might happen next wont be funny

For an unbeliever, hearing that phrase sends shivers down their spine. For a Muslim who hears that and knows the meaning, his heart is filled with love and reverence for Allah the most high.

Nigerian senators earn the highest. Qualification and experience needed is NEPA Bill and connection to area boys and guns.

He should sack all the politically motivated soldiers quickly. That’s what Obasonjo did to them. Over 250 of them was sacked by Obasonjo in one day. And peace reigned afterwards.

What a bad news for wailers on Monday morning!

Jamjoon:
Leave GEJ & OBJ. The heavily islamized security structure started from 2015 in this buhari's regime

Can u explain why?

Then vote Buhari out if you can. There’s no islamisation agenda. It’s a figment of imagination of CAN. They are using the tactics of best form of defence is to attack. Otherwise, why are Christians opposing the wearing of hijab by Muslim students? What disadvantage does that bring to Christian students? I agree that Buhari is nepotistic in behaviour. But that does not help any Muslim groups or persons. Otherwise why is Boko Haram killing Muslims most?

Jamjoon:
Can you explain why the executive, judiciary, legislature, army, airforce, police, dss, nscdc, ndlea, immigration, customs, and many other key govt agencies are headed by muslims?

Why is nigeria's entire security structure in particular headed by muslims?

I am not in power. If you ask Christians in power, they might be able to explain to you in an unbiased manner. But you must remember that Obasonjo and Jonathan were Christians and they ruled for 14 years. What did they do about it?

Jamjoon:
Ok sir.

As we speak, there is an agenda to completely islamize nigeria.
Do you agree?

That’s what CAN believes. They are the only ones who can explain that to us.

Jamjoon:
Usman dan fodio used extreme violence to forcefully convert people to islam.
Sir are u trying to say u are not sure of this?

To be honest i am more skeptical now about historical accounts because many historians now tell lies to suit their political agenda. I was not there so I am not sure of what happened. I want you to remember my definition of jihad. You can then use it to judge any story that you are sure of.

Jamjoon:
Ok bro.
Let me put it this way.

I'm sure you know about Usman Dan Fodio's jihad that swept the north many years ago.

Are you in support of that kind of jihad?

I have read some accounts and I am not sure of the purpose of his so called jihad. If it was to force people to accept Islam that is haram, unacceptable. But if it was to spread Islam by peaceful and persuasive means, that’s good.

Yenefer:
APC itself is dead. They bought 70% of the vote and use armed forces to get the 30. No one in their right mind will vote APC. Even those tribal bigots of Tinub's slaves. Dan kutumar ubanka ni er Fulani ce. Even we Northerners are done with APC and Buhari but those tribal bigots are still holding onto the sinking ship.

If you are tired of APC then let everyone go back to their regions. We need to restructure Nigeria. You northerners have been the stumbling blocks to restructure Nigeria.

AuntRose:
When a man shows interest in a lady it is okay but when the reverse is the case she's an olosho

It's pathetic and embarrassing how Nigerian men reason most times. Men are only allowed to do the hunting and relationship territorial defense right??

Do you now support polygamy? Are you not a feminist?

Charleys:
Guy you dey fall hands, I swear.

From Islamic hadith's that you deny. To Christian scripture that you didn't read, to medical reasons to everything. If I was you I will DM those guys to learn more. You truly messed up. And non of your Muslim friends are here to support you.

They know Islam is filled with lies.

You are not the to decide for people reading. Those reading my comments are smarter than you and they know who has given correct answers.

Jamjoon:
Bros why u come mute na?

Well, make I ask u again.

As a muslim, do you support jihad?

What is the meaning of jihad to you? If it means Boko Haram killing people to you, of course that’s not jihad and that’s evil. Jihad means to strive for good course, not evil course. Going to school to learn is jihad, going to work to make money for your family is jihad, ensuring there is peace is jihad. What I am doing now by informing you of the correct meaning is also jihad.

[quote author=Jamjoon post=96768468][/quote]The massacre just exposed the hypocrisy of CAN and the Christians who support them. All those killed were Muslims. And yet CAN sees persecution of Christians in everything done by Boko Haram. But those who have conscience know that these devils called Boko Haram are not fighting a religious war. Rather they are fighting a war of criminals and sadists who use religion as cover up for their crimes. All people of conscience should condemn them and help the government fight the war, instead of whining about how man Christians or Muslims killed. The victims are all human beings and religion should not be used to divide people.

Camelot65:
What does motive mean It clearly says whatever motives, that's how it was used in that verse.... Lol

Now to help you, Read the verses 14,15,16,17, and 18...... I wouldn't spoon feed a DR

Stop twisting things to achieve your aim.....

No where did Paul encouraged Christians to lie to convert people to Christianity.... everything stems from your lack of understanding of the verse

You can continue to tell lies and refuse to learn and understand. No religious leader will say no matter the methods used he does not care. Yet you cannot understand what that means because it’s convenient for you to argue blindly. I will not reply you again. You just obey what Paul tells you. Your conscience will judge you.

Camelot65:
If that verse to you shows Paul encouraged us to lie, then you need help......

if he had said "use whatever means whether good or bad" to preach the gospel, I'd have taken you serious but that verse was in continuation of his comments on those who proclaim Christ for selfish ambitions.......Whatever Motive(whether to preach Christ in truthfulness or to discredit him) is being used by anyone to proclaim the gospel , Christ is still preached.....I still quoted verse 17 to help you.....

It's embarrassing that I have to explain that clear verse to you again with your level of knowledge .

Now, let me come to kindergarten level for. What are the bad methods of converting people to Christianity? You answer that yourself.

Camelot65:
Instead you'd laughed at for your lack of understanding

clearly Paul was talking on those who try to hurt him by using his words not knowing they are indirectly preaching about christ--

MOTIVES ,MOTIVES, MOTIVES

Even after clearly showing from that verse and my explanation the only thing you could come with was "the end justifies the means" It's obvious you didn't read the passage

First you claimed he encouraged us to lie to convert people to Christianity, I exposed your ignorance, Instead of lying low, you jumped from that to another blunder of lack of understanding You should have enrolled to study B. Ed English


Can you please show me where Paul encouraged Christians to lie to convert people to Christianity

The question is still open

I am not here to repeat myself. Read the verse yourself and tell me if he did not ask you to lie as the end justifies the means.

Camelot65:
Now I know Your head is not correct If English is so difficult for you, you should have just kept quiet instead of embarrassing yourself with the "DR" in your name....

let's go ,From that passage,

Philippians 1: 17
The others do not proclaim Christ sincerely, but from a spirit of selfish ambition; they think that they will make more trouble for me while in prison
18. it does not matter! I'm happy about it -so long as Christ is preached in every way possible, whether from wrong or right motives. I'll continue to be happy

I had to use a much simpler translation for you since you lack understanding

Now, Paul was rounding up his comments on those who preach for selfish reasons with a very practical conclusion......Paul was happy to see Christ proclaimed regardless of the reason. In the end, his goal was to let everyone hear the good news and receive it

Those who thought they were hurting Paul( E.g YOU) by repeating his preaching were actually giving him his very heart's desire.....Lol the bible is an arranged book with a flow unlike the Quran that has a verse unrelated to the other.


Why should I be ashamed when Its you who committed a blunder of lack of understanding Lol


LoL, So tell me where it says you should lie to convert people to Christianity

Lol! Everyone who reads your comments should be laughing in mockery of your level of reasoning. So you agree that Paul said the end justifies the means. Even if the means is dishonest. Yet you have arguments to support Paul in that. How ridiculous is that?

advocatejare:
Only empty barrel makes the loudest noise, you're a fake doctor, real doctors don't carry it on their heads. I have friends who are cardiologists and one of them has shown me signs of what he called aortic dissection and severe chest pain is one of them but the ignorant you is saying otherwise.

If you're sure of yourself, share us the link to a medical article or textbooks that claim that pain is not part of aortic dissection.

BTW your Prophet died from poison and he had his aorta cut and she shouted when the poison torn his aorta and Allah could not help him.

Ask your friend cardiologist if aortic dissection is different from from aortic rupture? Ask him when pain occurs in rupture. And you said Muhammad had his aorta cut off, does that sound like a aortic dissection to you? Ask your friend if you don’t know. Ignorance can only be cured by knowledge, not telling lies.
Furthermore, someone who has aortic rupture with pain usually does not live to tell the story many years after. Show the Hadith to your friend and let him use his clinical knowledge to correlate with the story. I have never seen poison causing aortic rupture because rupture is usually caused by trauma or long-standing infection like syphilis or metabolic plaques on the arteries. Not poison. Go and do your research.

advocatejare:
The quack doctor that call himself drlateef has been exposed, imagine him saying that those with tear in the aorta don't feel pain, he's forgotten that information is readily available on the internet.

He even said Muhammad didnt die of poison when Muhammad himself claimed that poison was killing him. Imagine

Do you think I am a google doctor? Who learns medicine on google? If you feel any pain it’s already too late. And that’s when pressure on surrounding structures occurs due to severe haemorrhage. If you have an experienced doctor in your family let them talk to me. Otherwise you should do jamb and study medicine for 6 years before you talk to me.

Camelot65:

Muhammad was the scammer who created a scam religion

Give me a verse from the Bible saying Paul encouraged Christians to lie to convert people to Christianity


show me also where Paul claimed he created christianity, I assume you are intelligent enough to know what "Christianity" means


i don't want long story Dr. ,just show me the verses

Philippians 1:18, NIV: "But what does it matter? The important thing is that in every way, whether from false motives or true, Christ is preached. And because of this I rejoice. Yes, and I will continue to rejoice,"

Now that I have shown you that Christianity is preached on falsehood, are you not ashamed to be a Christian?

Camelot65:
He has been posting authentic hadiths, authentic Islamic sources but You're calling him a liar, I'm not surprised

show me where Paul told Christians to lie to convert people to Christianity in the Bible as you claimed

You think Christianity is like Islam that openly encourages lying to kill or Lying to have your way?? (just like the way you just lied)

I'm still trying to get why you muslims hate Paul even when he wasn't mentioned in a bad light in Your Own Islamic sources?


wetin Paul do una?

Lol, Same Paul that was better than Muhammad?

You want to help your Christian brother in telling lies? Did you both not click to say you are Muslim before getting to this page? What do you call that in Christianity? Lying, isn’t it? Paul states that you must convert everyone by all means. It’s there i your bible. Paul created the scam called Christianity, isn’t it? Is he a noble person? Was he not a warrior against Jesus?

advocatejare:
Because there is nothing good to learn about him.

Is it being a cross dresser like Bobrisky that your want me to learn from Muhammad? It was narrated in Sahih Bukhari 2581 that inspiration came to Muhammad anytime he was wearing Aisha's garment(tawb) as a crossdresser but you muslims are ashamed of that and you falsely interpreted garment(tawb) to bed.


"Do not hurt me regarding Aisha, as the Divine Inspirations do not come to me on any of the garments(ثَوْب ) except that of Aisha."


فِي عَائِشَةَ، فَإِنَّ الْوَحْىَ لَمْ يَأْتِنِي، وَأَنَا فِي ثَوْبِ امْرَأَةٍ إِلاَّ عَائِشَةَ ‏"‏‏.‏ قَالَتْ فَقَالَتْ أَتُوبُ إِلَى اللَّهِ مِنْ أَذَاكَ يَا




Listen to yourself, the bone spoke to him after he had tasted the meat. So the person that claimed to always hear from Gabriel was not informed that the meat was poisoned until he tasted it and felt that the meat wasn't tasting nice before he then lied that after he had eaten the meat was when he was informed,



The woman said if Muhammad was a false prophet that the poison would get rid of him, and the poisoned got rid of him and cut his aorta and on his sick bed, he kept crying that it was the poison that was getting rid of him which confirmed what the Jewess said that he was a false prophet


Muhammad tasted the meat, chew it but didn't swallow it after he realised that the meat tasted somehow, but despite the fact that he didn't swallow it, its effect was still felt in his uvula and he kept us saying that it was the poison that was killing him. Are you saying that Muhammad was a liar?


So muhammad was lying?

How can you say that you cant feel pain in the aorta, even though I'm not a medical person but I read alot and I know that people feel excruciating pain like Muhammad did when they have some tears in their aorta. They only die when the tear is total. You're an ignorant

https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/aortic-dissection/symptoms-causes/syc-20369496


The hadith below says some (not all) of his companions who ate it died. So, it wasn't only muhammad that didn't die

..."But some of his companions who ate it, died. The Messenger of Allah had himself cupped on his shoulder on account of that which he had eaten from the sheep. AbuHind cupped him with the horn and knife. He was a client of Banu Bayadah from the Ansar.
-Sunan Abu Dawud 39:4495

I don’t even know why I am replying you. Because a liar will always tell more lies. Everything you stated are lies. The Hadith on the revelation is lengthy but I quote some of it here:


Do not hurt me regarding Aisha, as the Divine Inspirations do not come to me on any of the beds except that of Aisha."

Now you don’t speak Arabic and you don’t know Arabic. That word means beds in Arabic. It’s a plural word and you want to tell me he was wearing several clothes of Aisha, how laughable and senseless such thinking is? A prophet who condemned cross dressing, a prophet who condemned weird hairstyles is the one you are lying against? I can’t believe you.
Most people who die from aortic rupture don’t feel pain because the aorta is supplied by vargus nerve, a parasympathetic nerve that does not cause pain in most cases. That’s why many die before they knew what happened to them in aortic rupture. The aortic rupture is catastrophic event that occurs with seconds to minutes. You don’t get fever in aortic rupture. I know you are not a doctor. But the prophet was sick for several days before he died. He died of high fever. He was looking unwell. That’s not what you get in aortic rupture. I say stop telling lies. Aren’t you ashamed of telling lies?
And the Hadith talked about some of the saaba who ate the meat, not all of them ate the meat. The ones that ate the meat died instantly. You tell lies a lot. And you don’t even understand what you read. Christianity is full of lies. Paul told you to tell lies and do everything possible to convert people to Christianity. Therefore I am not surprised. Continue on your lies.

Charleys:
How did he lie?
By clicking a button to accept that he's a Muslim?
Lolz you really believe that thing?



That someone clicks a button and automatically becomes a Muslim... And if he's not he's a liar

You can think better than that..

Because lying is a culture among some people, that’s why they cannot recognise lies anymore. You are asked a question and you lied that you are Muslim to gain access fraudulently. But that’s not important to you, because you must convert people by hook or crook. That’s exactly what Paul taught you in bible.

advocatejare:
That's a lie, why do all of you lie to defend your religion? And you claim to be a doctor, you know nothing about Islam and I will expose your lies.

First and foremost, it was not everyone that ate the poisoned meat that died instantly and muhammad didnt die instantly because he didn't swallow the meat, and even despite that, the effect of the poison was still felt on his uvula and muhammad showing us that he didn't have any divine powers could not heal himself and Allah could not heal him, he had to get treated by cupping:

Muhammad didn't die on time because he didn't swallow the meat
When the apostle had rested, Zaynab d. al-Harith, the wife of Sallam b. Mishkam prepared for him a roast lamb, having first inquired what joint he preferred. When she learned that it was the shoulder she put a lot of poison in it and poisoned the whole lamb. Then she brought it in and placed it before him. He took hold of the shoulder and chewed a morsel of it, but he did not swallow it. Bishr b. al-Bara b. Ma’rur who was with him took some of it as the apostle had done, but he swallowed it, while the apostle spat it out, saying, ‘This bone tells me that it is poisoned.’ Then he called for the woman and she confessed, and when he asked her what had induced her to do this she answered: ‘You know what you have done to my people. I said to myself, If he is a king I shall ease myself of him and if he is a prophet he will be informed (of what I have done).’ So the apostle let her off. Bishr died from what he had eaten.
Marwan b. Uthman b. Abu Sa’id b. al-Mu’alla told me: The apostle had said in his illness of which he was to die when Umm Bishr d. al-Bara came to visit him, ‘O Umm Bishr, this is the time in which I feel a deadly pain from what I ate with your brother at Khaybar.’ The Muslims considered that the apostle had died as a martyr in addition to the prophetic office with which God had honoured him.
- Sira Ibn Ishaq The Life of Muhammad, p. 516


Jabir ibn Abdullah used to say that a Jewess from the inhabitants of Khaybar poisoned a roasted sheep and presented it to the Messenger of Allah ( ﷺ ) who took its foreleg and ate from it. A group of his companions also ate with him. The Messenger of Allah then said: Take your hands away (from the food). The Messenger of Allah then sent someone to the Jewess and he called her. He said to her: Have you poisoned this sheep? The Jewess replied: Who has informed you? He said: This I foreleg which I have in my hand has informed me. She said: Yes. He said: What did you intend by it? She said: I thought if you were a prophet, it would not harm you; if you were not a prophet, we should rid ourselves of him (i.e. the Prophet). The Messenger of Allah then forgave her, and did not punish her. But some of his companions who ate it, died. The Messenger of Allah had himself cupped on his shoulder on account of that which he had eaten from the sheep. AbuHind cupped him with the horn and knife. He was a client of Banu Bayadah from the Ansar.
Sunan Abu Dawud 39:4495

As you can see here, only some,( not all) of his companions that are the poisoned meat died. So Muhammad not dying immediately wasn't special




No he didn't. He claimed he was the only prophet sent to the whole world but he failed in his mission, he was only able to forcefully convert the Arabs. Abu Bakr, Umar, Uthamn and Ali were the ones that majorly use force to spread Islam to other regions. Muhammad could not as he died without fulfilling the mission that he was the only one sent to the whole world


That means you are claiming that Muhammad is a liar and you're the one saying the truth, because Muhammad claimed that his sickness that led to his death was due to the poison he ate.

Sahih Bukhari Vol 5 book 59 Hadith 713
Narrated 'Aisha: The Prophet in his ailment in which he died, used to say, "O 'Aisha! I still feel the pain caused by the food I ate at Khaibar, and at this time, I feel as if my aorta is being cut from that poison."


Sunan Abu Dawud 39:4495-4498
Narrated AbuSalamah: Muhammad ibn Amr said on the authority of AbuSalamah, and he did not mention the name of AbuHurayrah: The Apostle of Allah (peace_be_upon_him) used to accept presents but not alms (sadaqah). This version adds: So a Jewess presented him at Khaybar with a roasted sheep which she had poisoned. The Apostle of Allah (peace_be_upon_him) ate of it and the people also ate. He then said: Take away your hands (from the food), for it has informed me that it is poisoned. Bishr ibn al-Bara' ibn Ma'rur al-Ansari died. So he (the Prophet) sent for the Jewess (and said to her): What motivated you to do the work you have done?
She said: If you were a prophet, it would not harm you; but if you were a king, I should rid the people of you. The Apostle of Allah (peace_be_upon_him) then ordered regarding her and she was killed. He then said about the pain of which he died: I continued to feel pain from the morsel which I had eaten at Khaybar. This is the time when it has cut off my aorta.

]Sahih Muslim 26:5430
Anas reported that a Jewess came to Allah's Messenger ﷺ with poisoned mutton and he took of that what had been brought to him (Allah's Messenger). (When the effect of this poison were felt by him) he called for her and asked her about that, whereupon she said: I had determined to kill you. Thereupon he said: Allah will never give you the power to do it. He (the narrator) said that they (the Companion's of the Holy Prophet) said: Should we not kill her? Thereupon he said: No. He (Anas) said: I felt (the affects of this poison) on the uvula of Aitah's Messenger.


"Umm Bishr [the mother of the Muslim man who also died eating poison], came to the prophet during his illness and said, "O apostle of Allah! I never saw fever like it in any one." The prophet said to her, "Our trial is double and so our reward [in heaven], is double. What do the people say about it [his illness]?" She said, "They say it is pleurisy." Thereupon the apostle said, "Allah will not like to make His apostle suffer from it (pleurisy) because it indicates the possession of Satan, but (my disease is the result of) the morsel that I had taken along your son."
-Ibn Saad, p. 294.


Sunan Abu Dawood 39:4499
"Narrated Umm Mubashshir: Umm Mubashshir said to the Prophet (peace_be_upon_him) during the sickness of which he died: What do you think about your illness, Apostle of Allah (peace_be_upon_him)? I do not think about the illness of my son except the poisoned sheep of which he had eaten with you at Khaybar. The Prophet (peace_be_upon_him) said: And I do not think about my illness except that. This is the time when it cut off my aorta."



You're lying, there are poisons that take years to kill like the one that killed muhammad.



Jesus prophesied his own death, he said he chose that form of death.

Muhammad died of poison and spent his last moments doing what he knew how to do best like Aisha narrated.

The effect of the poison was so much he couldn't walk, even with support, he was dragging his feet on the ground

"Narrated By 'Aisha
(The wife of the Prophet) "When the ailment of Allah's Apostle became aggravated, he requested his wives to permit him to be (treated) nursed in my house, and they gave him permission. He came out (to my house), walking between two men with his feet dragging on the ground, between 'Abbas bin 'Abdul-Muttalib and another man"... Bukhari 5:59:727


"That during his fatal ailment, Allah's Apostle, used to ask his wives, "Where shall I stay tomorrow? Where shall I stay tomorrow?" He was looking forward to 'Aisha's turn. So all his wives allowed him to stay where he wished, and he stayed at 'Aisha's house till he died there. 'Aisha added: He died on the day of my usual turn at my house. Allah took him unto Him while his head was between my chest and my neck and his saliva was mixed with my saliva. Bukhari 7:62:144"

To make the matter worse, he was left unburied for 3 days which was against the norm for Muslim corpse and they bathed him with his clothes on which was also against the Muslim tradition.

I can’t believe that you have brain at all. Imagine that you quoted copiously from Hadith and yet you learnt nothing good about the prophet from them. Now, I will help you to see reason and bring the substance from the narrations.

1. It is clear from the narrations that the woman truly poisoned the meat and the bone had spoken to the prophet. That in itself is a miracle given only to prophets of the most high, Allah. This confirms he was a prophet.

2. The woman confirmed that this was true, that she poisoned the meat, which shows that the prophet was not a liar. He truly heard the miraculous statement. This confirms he was truly a prophet.

3. Did you read the jewess confession? She wanted to confirm if Muhammed was truly a prophet or just a king. Did she not confirm that he was truly a prophet? Yes indeed. But unbelievers like you who have been blinded by Satan will never affirm that.

4. The jewess could not have used ordinary poison, it must have been potent and Muhammad must have eaten at least some of it. Because he later confirmed he ate some of it. You can see the contradictions in what you claim and what the prophet said. You claim he didn’t eat it, yet you read where he mentioned that he ate some of it.

5. If Muhammed did not eat the meat as you claim, how could it have affected him at all? You said it affected his uvula, yet you read that his aorta was cut off from the poison. Do you know what that means? Definitely you don’t know. Do you know what aorta is? Definitely not. If his aorta was cut off from the poison, it means that his major artery has been cleaned off the poison. The pain is not from aorta being cut off the poison because you cannot feel any pain in the aorta. That’s why some people with aneurysm of aorta do not feel pain until it ruptures which can be fatal. That was not the cause of his death because he did not die immediately after making that statement.

And you claim that those who are with him did not die immediately. Where did you read that in the Hadith you have quoted? What you read is that the person who ate the meat with him died. And we have other narrations that showed that he died immediately. You have no evidence to support your statement that he did not die immediately. I am not surprised because you are a liar. You lied by claiming to be a Muslim before entering this group. You think you can tell lies to convert Muslims, how foolish is that thinking?