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Henry120: The bushmaster is not a great rifle. It jams all the time. It has great look, design based on the M-16 and the M-4 but very very un reliable.

You're absolutely right there.

automaticcarzz: What about bushmaster?

Bushmaster Firearms is a company that manufactures and distributes fireams and it's component in the U.S. If what you meant was the Bushmaster M4 carbine type, men that rifle is bad. The U.S army used it in Iraq and Afganistan. Very nice weapon though with it capabilities just like that of M16. It looks like AR15 which in turns looks like M16. This rifle bad sha but it has it's disadvantages, it jams easily.

The IWI US TSIDF16 Tavor SAR Bullpup Rifle is accurate but one thing people on NL should not forget that this assualt rifle is very expensive. I see some short coming with this rifle, it is shorter in length than your normal rifle therefore making it hard to hold. The little budget that goes to the Nigerian military should not all be spent on expensives ammo. For me I would go with the standard issue M16 assual rifles the official assual riffle for the U.S Marine. This rifle is fairly accurate, it can be switched to semi-automatic or full round fire. The picture below is the different variation of M16. You can see it instills fear in peoples mind. If them BOKO boys see them our army boys carry this rifle their with humvee mounted with M2 .50 caliber machine as depicted below. Them go surrender kon give their life to Christ.

@Ayenny02 is just enjoying the publicity. He has a moderate knowlede about the Bible and the Quran but when asked simple questions, he tries to twist it by bashing the Bible. Desika killed you. Till when you answer the questions correctly the questions Desika posed to you then I would always believe that Islam is a farce and so is other religion out there.

librangyps: Wow! Garri made front page...


Lemme tweet this...

Not!

Nice one, love the sarcasm..lool..

And this made it to front page while my posts has never been on FrontPage. Nairaland sucks.

ayenny02: I can see that you are a liar after u accepted that the bible was full of error and you still called it holy. From the verses I quoted did you not see the verses from old and new testament.

Also, I can see that u go to anti islam websites to quote ur Quranic verses.

These are the explanation:

Who misleads people? Satan or Allah?

Let us look at Noble Verses 4:119-120 "[Satan says:] "I will mislead them, and I will create in them false desires; I will order them to slit the ears of cattle, and to deface the (fair) nature created by God." Whoever, forsaking God, takes satan for a friend, hath of a surety suffered a loss that is manifest.

Satan makes them promises, and creates in them false desires; but satan's promises are nothing but deception."

Let us look at Noble Verse 16:93 "If God so willed, He could make you all one people: But He leaves straying whom He pleases, and He guides whom He pleases: but ye shall certainly be called to account for all your actions."

There is no contradiction in the above Noble Verses !.

In the Noble Verses (4:119-120) above, Allah Almighty clearly tells us that Satan is the primary decieving force that we might face.  For this reason, we must always avoid listening to Satan's temptations.  In the Noble Verse (16:93) above, Allah Almighty helps whom ever He wants and leaves astray whom ever he wants.  Depending on our intentions in this life, we might gain the love of GOD or gain His dislike or hate.  Allah Almighty is not obligated to help everyone He creates.  He gives us choices and makes the straight path to follow crystal clear for us.  It is ultimately up to us (the humans) to make the decission of going with the path of Allah Almighty or go with the path of Satan and evil.

I don't understand Arabic so I can't read the Quran, where else would I get my information from except from anti-Islamic websites as you call them. Thanks for clarifying my afforementioned contradictories. I still have more but I will let it slide for now. BTW, I am not a Christian. I have no religion. I'm more like a free thinker and I take values from all religion that matches my idea about GOD. I would say I have a relationship with GOD in my own way. If you think the Bible is not Holy because of the horrors and contradictories then my friend, I would then say the Quran too is not Holy. I by no means is trying to put a dent on your religion or something. I'm just saying. There are some overwhelming facts the user Desika has made that no muslim on this thread has successfully been able to counter.

Proffdada: this guy is a budhist, hope you r ready to accept idolism

I am a free thinker. I take values that match what I stand for and make it my own. I have no religion as Jesus did not and neither were the people before him. I only have a relationship with my God, my Heavenly Father, my Maker.

salt 1: I laugh at this. Where do you have a higher degree of ignorance and poverty? Among Christians or among Muslims?
From this thread and similar ones, we can see the Muslim's style of educating and winning converts:
1. Threaten them: to avoid being banned, please ensure that your post is not offensive to Islam. This is a mild e-version of convert or get destroyed. Threats can work with your followers for whom blasphemy is a matter of life and death, but you don't expect us to share the same feelings
2. Insult them: for expressing an opinion on this thread, which I did in the most courteous manner, I've been called a coward. Others have been accused of being fools, not having open minds, slaves to popes and pastors and Jews etc. In doing this, the poster is cocky, rude and overbearing.
3. Disparage the Bible as being a corrupted book, but quote copiously from it if it suits the purpose. The corrupt book is valid if it said anything that can favour the Muslim's argument
4. Cite historical illustrations. Jihad is akin to Crusades etc. Islam hacks back to Christianity's remote past(a religion they say is trash) to validate the atrocities committed by its members in the 21st century.
5. Look for conspiracy theories: the negative image of Muslims is the one peddled by USA. The average Nigerian depends on the Western media to understand why 50 Catholic churches have been torched in Borno. But for the Western media, he would have known that Islam is a religion of peace.

One good point on this thread, I noticed, is that the chief Imam of NL, Maclatunji, is in such a good mood that he is not banning people so much. What good thing happened to you, Tunji dear, so that I may rejoice with you? You know I am a Christian: I love my enemies!

If there is anything that Muslims can take from me on this thread, it is this: YOUR ACTIONS, ONLINE AND OFFLINE, ARE SCREAMING SO LOUDLY THAT I DON'T NEED ANY FURTHER EDUCATION ON YOUR RELIGION.

Compelling argument. Nice one.

ayenny02: Thank God that u have accepted ur bible were full of Error.
MY QUESTION FOR YOU CAN WE CALLED THAT HOLY?

And also can u proof to us here where Quran is full of contradiction

Yes, the Bible is filled with stories and horrors such as wars and I accept that. No lie. But the part you're missing is that there's two part of the Bible, the one we inherited from the old and the new testament. The new testament, Jesus came and changed our mindset. In the old testament, it was an eye for an eye and in the new testament, HE preached about turning the other side of your cheek if slapped and loving your neighbor and your enemy equally. He preached about peace and unity. We the Christians have disgarded most part of the old testament but it's still there to teach us of a time when things were different. And to answer your Question, YES the Bible is Holy.

Contradicting parts of the Quran includes;

According to verse 4:119-120, Satan (the rejected one) is the one who creates false desires and misleads people. Refer also 15:42. However, according to verse 16:93, it is God who leaves people astray as He wills! So who is misleading people, Satan or Allah

While one verse in the Quran says that both Evil and Good issue from Allah, the very next verse says only Good comes from Allah!

In the Quran we learn that it is Allah who has to be blamed for all the misguidance. While other verses hold man himself responsible for the wrongs done.

In one verse of the Quran All says un-believes would be forgiven and in another part says un-believers would be persecuted... So many more!

ayenny02: Maybe u forgot those verses below from ur bible too;

“But these enemies of mine who did not want me to reign over them, bring them here, and slay them before me.” (Luke 19:27) 



·       Non-believers will be damned  (Mark 16:16)

·       You (Jews) brood of vipers! Who warned you to flee from the coming wrath? (Matthew 3:7)

·       Children (Jews) of kingdom cast into outer darkness (Matthew 8:10-12)

·       Non-believers in Jesus are condemned to hell (John 3:18)

·       Jews are of their father, the Devil (John 8:44)

·       You (Jews) are not of God (John 8:47)

·       If a man abide not in me ... cast into fire (John 15:6)

·       He that hate me hates the father (God (John 15:22-25)

·       Whoever kills you (Jews) will think he does God a service (John 16:2, 3) 

Hitler quickly picked up this Christian rhetoric.

Hitler addressed the world at the passion plays of Oberammergau in 1942 He said: “his blood be on us and our children....[Matthew 27:25], maybe I’m the one who must execute this curse..... I do no more than join what has been done for more than 1,500 years already. Maybe I render Christianity the best service ever! “ Hitler also said “And so I believe to-day that my conduct is in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator. In standing guard against the Jew I am defending the handiwork of the Lord.”

I want you to know God is Alpha and Omega, and God words does not have expiry date, God of yestday is also God of today, God dont change


Deuteronomy
Chapter 2 :
33 And the LORD our God delivered him before us; and we smote him, and his sons, and all his people. 34 And we took all his cities at that time, and utterly destroyed the men, and the women, and the little ones, of every city, we left none to remain. ( So Moses and his army killed women and children. Moses broke the 6th commmandment, thou shall not kill ANYONE)

Deuteronomy
Chapter 7:
2 And when the LORD thy God shall deliver them before thee; thou shalt smite them, and utterly destroy them; thou shalt make no covenant with them, nor show mercy unto them
5 But thus shall ye deal with them; ye shall destroy their altars, and break down their images, and cut down their groves, and burn their graven images with fire. 6

Deuteronomy
Chapter 13
9 But thou shalt surely kill him; thine hand shall be first upon him to put him to death, and afterwards the hand of all the people. 10 And thou shalt stone him with stones, that he die; because he hath sought to thrust thee away from the LORD thy God

Numbers
Chapter 31
17 Now therefore kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman that hath known man by lying with him. 18 But all the women children, that have not known a man by lying with him, keep alive for yourselves ( almost all the Nigerian lady will be kill)

1Samuel 6:19-20
And he smote of the men of Beth-shemesh, because they had looked into the ark of Jehovah, he smote of the people seventy men, `and' fifty thousand men; and the people mourned, because Jehovah had smitten the people with a great slaughter. And the men of Beth-shemesh said, Who is able to stand before Jehovah, this holy God? and to whom shall he go up from us?

1 Kings 20:35-36
 Meanwhile, the LORD instructed one of the group of prophets to say to another man, "Strike me!" But the man refused to strike the prophet. Then the prophet told him, "Because you have not obeyed the voice of the LORD, a lion will kill you as soon as you leave me." And sure enough, when he had gone, a lion attacked and killed him.
 
What?!

Ezekiel 9:5-7
 "Then I heard the LORD say to the other men, "Follow him through the city and kill everyone whose forehead is not marked. Show no mercy; have no pity! Kill them all – old and young, girls and women and little children. But do not touch anyone with the mark. Begin your task right here at the Temple." So they began by killing the seventy leaders. "Defile the Temple!" the LORD commanded. "Fill its courtyards with the bodies of those you kill! Go!" So they went throughout the city and did as they were told."
 
Another massacare.

eremiah 51:20-26
 "You are my battle-ax and sword," says the LORD. "With you I will shatter nations and destroy many kingdoms. With you I will shatter armies, destroying the horse and rider, the chariot and charioteer. With you I will shatter men and women, old people and children, young men and maidens. With you I will shatter shepherds and flocks, farmers and oxen, captains and rulers. "As you watch, I will repay Babylon and the people of Babylonia for all the wrong they have done to my people in Jerusalem," says the LORD. "Look, O mighty mountain, destroyer of the earth! I am your enemy," says the LORD. "I will raise my fist against you, to roll you down from the heights. When I am finished, you will be nothing but a heap of rubble. You will be desolate forever. Even your stones will never again be used for building. You will be completely wiped out," says the LORD.
Another massacre, same old story.

Exodus 21:20-21
When a man strikes his male or female slave with a rod so hard that the slave dies under his hand, he shall be punished. If, however, the slave survives for a day or two, he is not to be punished, since the slave is his own property
 
So you can beat the hell out of your slave as long as the slave does not die, this is straight from the Bible
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I challenge any Christian to come and tell me those verses which I posted are not evil and not terrorism,

A fact that all mumslims and non-christians should understand about the Bible is that the first language used in writing it was Aramaic. The Bible has been translated over and over again into different languages and you can not deny that facts that some meaning were lost during these century wide translations. Some of the scribes who translated the HOLY BOOK would have added and deducted some wordings to it to suit some of their teachings and for political reasons. It's not like the Quran to whom it was first written in Arabic and still is in Arabic today. Even the Quran still has some contradicting parts to it.

Like one professor of Theology once said, different religion are battling for supremacy to be the one and true religion. At the end of the time, the true religion might be from the voodoo worshipers in Congo. Who knows?

I am not being biased here but my problem is why is there so much hate with Islam. I know the muslims would come out and say the Christian started it with crusades and what not but the fact that remains is that they've put that in the past. Long time ago, some smartass saw they some verses in the Bible and used them for political ambitions but as time went on, people began reading about the Bible and noticed other parts where it talked about peace and loving thy neighbour. The Christians has put the past behind them and are advocating for peace, why can't my muslim brothers reciprocate in kind?

A fact that all mumslims and non-christians should understand about the Bible is that the first language used in writing it was Aramaic. The Bible has been translated over and over again into different languages and you can not deny that facts that some meaning were lost during these century wide translations. Some of the scribes who translated the HOLY BOOK would have added and deducted some wordings to it to suit some of their teachings and for political reasons. It's not like the Quran to whom it was first written in Arabic and still is in Arabic today. Even the Quran still has some contradicting parts to it.

Like one professor of Theology once said, different religion are battling for supremacy to be the one and true religion. At the end of the time, the true religion might be from the voodoo worshipers in Congo. Who knows?

ifeness: I do not have a religion, I am happy to be free from any form of religion. According to an earlier comment of yours,Allah is musculine,which sounds wierd. As far as i am concerned,God is a state or level of concsiousness not a finite being. Therefore,Allah is finite and demands worship. God mind is all Love and true love doesnt demand worship.you do not fight for it neither does it inspire a book.

The word Islam is derived from the Arabic verb aslama, which means to accept, surrender, or submit. Thus, a follower of Islam must agree to be a simple puppet submitting to whatever he is being told, from his clerics or holy books. The problem becomes clear when the holy book is authored by an individual that can only be described as: an oppressive warlord, murderer, bigot and a pedophile. You don’t need to be smart to understand that you have found the perfect prescription for pain chaos and suffering. I hear muslim claim Boko haram are not following the Quran ...but aint there scriptures backing them up?

Nice on there! I could only give one like. I wish I could give a million because you just said it all.

Goodysydney: Don't waste ur precious time to reply that dwarf Aboaba who called himself Otumfour. That bastard is pineapple shaped short idiot. You can tell a Ghanaian just by looking at the ugly pineapple shaped head.

Haha! You just made my day.

K4: d average nigerian has an IQ of 30. ur IQ cant be more than 2!

I have been reading comments on this thread, I have kept my patience checked but I can't hold it anymore and I must say you are a BASTARD for making this statement.

blink182: Now that it is a Muslim thread, Seun has permanently fixed a warning to dissuade people from mocking allah and Muhammed but it is completely cool for people to ridicule and mock God the mighty Father and Jesus.

Like this comment if you agree with me that there should be a warning like this with Christian threads.

I wish I could have given more likes. Nice one though!

When it comes to religion, I have learned from other peoples experience to keep my mouth shut but this dude Desika has really enlightened my mind and filled some hole in my heart about Christianity and Islam. I already know Christianity started as a cult most of it's worships were derived from other religion like the sun god and others. I now know islam too was derived from idolatory so my question is, which religion is the true religion. Is there nothing like religion as it was made by man? Maybe there's no religion at all and our almight father just wants to keep a relationship with his as Moses, Abraham and Adam did.

deSika: i answered you boy.

the religion of Abraham was not christianity. the jews worships the El that Abraham worship. as Abraham named his son IshmaEL. so Moses religion is derived from Abrahams relationship with God.

so my answer is this.
As Abraham was not a idol worshipper and also as at the time of Abraham there was no institionalised organised religion. its safe to say That Abraham had no religion with set down doctrines. ABRAHAM HAD A RELATIONSHIP WITH GOD. same with Adam.


#Abraham and Adam canot be said to be muslims why.
they didnt have mosques or temples. they didnt go to mecca. yes Adam didnt go to Mecca. they didnt fast in ramadan. they didnt pay zakat.. they didnt say "there is only one God and Muhammed is a prophet" are these not symbols of islam how could they have been muslim when they did not do this. if you say they can be muslims without doing this. then again all the people that do dont do these are muslims.

SUMMARY
Abrahams religion: Relationship with God
why
you must undertstand that man has become more developed over the years better than he was when he first started as Adam. Now people fly to distant countries in just days this was not the case with Adam, Abraham etc. this development includes Religion. as at when Adam started there was no religion. he had a Relationship with God. as time went on men began to seek ways of worshipping other spiritual entities. this now resulted in religions.. atleast you must agree that Adam didnt have any relationship with Mecca your most holy site as Kabba was built by Abraham. this means that atleast Adam didnt pray to or on any Kabba. so i can say your religion started with Abraham but not Adam so stop roping Adam into it..so you see from your records that religion evolved from Adam with no kabba to Abraham with Kabba.. this is not to say that i agree with such baseless assumptions. but just to let you know that the supposed religion of Adam was less developed than that of Abraham.. this explains why i say Adam,. Abraham didnt have a relgion. organised Religion started with Moses. but if you think otherwise show me where these guys upheld the five pillar of islam.

WHAT IS THE MEANING OF ELOHIM
Elohim means God

<< 429 430. elohim 431 >>

elohim: God, god
Original Word: םיִהֹלֱא
Part of Speech: Noun Masculine
Transliteration: elohim
Phonetic Spelling: (el-o-heem')
Short Definition: God
Word Origin pl. of eloah
Definition God, god

NAS Exhaustive Concordance of the Bible with Hebrew-Aramaic and Greek Dictionaries Copyright © 1981, 1998 by The Lockman Foundation All rights reserved Lockman.org

#take note that i answered you. pls return the favour and answer me. can you show me where Adam and Abraham
1.. recited "there is no God but Allah, and Muhammed is his last prophet"
2.. where they went to mecca on pilgrimage. especially Adam as Abraham is reputed to have built kabba
3. where they fasted this one is important IN RAMADAN
4.. Where they payed zakat and to who
5. where they prayed five times

WOW, You knocked me off my feet. I just learnt a great deal from your post. Thank you brother for the enlightenment.

Or maybe you're just crazy and paraniod.. Happens everytime with women who are pregnant. The hormones tend to make them psychotic. The unclad pictures of women on his phone might just be nude models your husband uses to releases his stress if you know what I mean since you're pregnant. Also, it's not uncommon for men to come back home late at night. Just because he's married shouldn't be a determining factor for his stopping him social life or hanging out with his buddies. You're just paraniod OP.

kgr28: what history of nigeria is there to learn? And remember? None!!

Don't have anything intelligent to say so you think it's acceptable to quote my words?

sweetcheecks: Dont talk crap Nigerians acount for 80% of our crime becouse if this drug shitt they are selling to people. One day the truth will out.

How many Nigerians are the sellings drugs in the street. South-Africans were peddlings controlled substances in the streets before Nigerians were even there. You blame all your problems on Nigerians, maybe when the Earth stops it's orbits around the sun, you would blame Nigerians for that too.

kgr28: thats shows how important we are!! Never heard any nigerian history even at school we never did...

Or maybe it shows that you're just a darn illiterate. You shouldn't be in the midst of the enlightened ones.

ItsModella: We won't give a damn if someone insults Chinubu because the last time I checked, there was no such person. Chinubu ko..

Damn! that was harsh.. lool

Nigerians are very intelligent beings. Look at the way we are eloquently talking about this history of South-Africa like it's written at the back of our hands while they no nothing of ours. Sweetcheecks, please go to bed and stop bringing more shame to your country-men.

ItsModella: Babe, the more you talk, the more you sound ignorant. For the sake of whatever pride you might have left, I suggest you zip it.

Nice one!

all4naija: Nkrumah is only history to Ghanaians and I don't give a f**k who the sh*t called Nkrumah is. F**k him and f**k you too!

Haha! Nice one bro!

kgr28: tltltltltltl, fvck them. Dangoste?? Who are they Was talking bout people who will be in history books forever!! Telling bout writers, and corrupt billioners.

I had some intelligent conversation to respond to you about writers being the ones who make legends and their legacy live forever but I just remembered that you're uneducated fool and it would be a total waste of my time to do so.

sweetcheecks: One and did it very expensively against 60 million Nigerians and they come here to insult Ghanians of being dark, dumb fffuuvvkks!

But you were saying South-Africans don't alter their skin color to look more western and you made false claim that all Nigerians do tone their skin colour. You guys are just bunch of hypocrites.

sweetcheecks: I use to frequent Nigeria through work. I know the smell when you get of the plane. And those unclad shoeless able bodied men would run in groups if you do not have guards you are in shitt!'especially if you are driving with white people around.

Ah! So you this bloody hypocrite come to Nigeria for work. I thought you had it all in South-Africa where the breeze never stop blowing and where you could pick gold on the floor. All those unclad shoeless able bodied men/women that come running after you are immigrants from Chad and Niger.

kgr28: if them WHITE people had not discoverd Oil, I wonder where nigeria would be? A jungle! Kwakwakwakwa

That's where you were wrong. Before there was indication of crude oil, we were doing very fine with the production and exportation of cocoa and other farm produce. Oil was just the icing on the cake. We still generate revenue from other sectors which I am not going to elaborate because you're bloody fool.