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In plain English:

Human love:

I better like you
I better feel good
I better be satisfied
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It doesn't matter that you are devoted to me, that you love me, that you can provide for me, that you would be good to me.

I am the one that matters.

Enugu,

First, Thank you for asking for scriptural proof of something I have said. I think like Paul, a person is more honorable when they want to search the scriptures to see if something somebody said is true.

And here is the scripture you asked for: Paul telling a man to marry a woman, not for love but out of duty because he has went to far with the woman.

1Co 7:36 But if anyone thinks it behaving himself indecently toward his virgin (if she is past her prime, and so it ought to be) let him do what he will; he does not sin; let them marry.

Human love is a selfish thing: Listen clearly what Jesus says to CHRISTIANS:

Mat 7:11 If you then, being evil, know how to give good gifts to your children, how much more shall your Father in Heaven give good things to those who ask Him?

1. We know Jesus is talking to Christians because He is talking about the Father giving them the Holy Spirit.

2. Notice that he says YOU BEING EVIL ---- give good gifts to your children.

Point blank, human love is so evil, that we really only do right by our children out of a selfish desire to look like a good parent, to make our kids look better than others, etc, etc.

My point to you is this, your absolutely right resentment and frustration do come into marriages now a days because there is only human love and it is too selfish to compromise, to see the worth of every human being and EVEN a human being totally devoted to and in love with them.

We would treat this person bad, we would resent this person, who only wants to love us and serve us -- because human love is only concerned with one person -- yourself.

It is God's love that comes unconditionally, our love is very conditional.

God ordered that men marry women they had raped in the bible.

Tamar the sister of one of Davids son, after he raped her, said that the sending her away was worse than the rape of her.

The duty of the person was far more important than the love factor.

Your free to believe what you want about God and love but I just go by the bible.

Mrmayor,

Oh. Really? Europe is a secular democracy. Mother Earth save the queen, eh? That's right, God save the queen.

The bible says that there will be a war over in the middle east. The fact that GB has placed American troops, and the troops of 38 other countries in the middle east, should at least be interesting, even if you did not believe the bible.

We fight against people dying because God says to do so.

Think about this:

God says the anti-Christ is coming. Are you saying that just because God has said the anti-Christ is coming that Christians should love and appreciate and support the anti-Christ?

Of course not.

Don't confuse God's plans, with what you should do.

We force a merciful, kind, loving being to go through some horrible stuff, just because He loves us so much, He must do to us what is needed to ensure that we get home.

Jagunlabi,

Then you should start now to feel very uncomfortable.

I myself cried for 2 weeks straight when I realized that God has written every day of our lives out before we were even born.

Then I 'got it' and I begin crying out to God for His forgiveness. Knowing that my own hardheadness was why He had to go through those horrible things with me.

Remember God sent Adam and Eve out of the Garden to a terrible life, but He went with them.

It is us who needs to ask God for forgiveness when something bad happens to us in this life.

Oh and in case anyone is counting.

African Americans are 13 years away from being in America for 400 years.

Our slavery is almost over.

In the villages, there is a rumor that some of our people were taken away, but one day they will return as Supermen. _____Patrice Lumumba

KDK,

In plain english:

You don't really believe that God had whites pick out the biggest, fastest, strongest Africans and bring them into their homes just to be slaves, do you?

Isn't God more purposeful than that?

Didn't God use the Jewish slaves for more than just slavery, while they were in Egypt and especially when it was time for them to leave Egypt?

Rhetorical question. Smile.

KDK,

Read this:

1Ki 12:13 And the king answered the people roughly, and forsook the old men's counsel that they gave him;

1Ki 12:14 And spake to them after the counsel of the young men, saying, My father made your yoke heavy, and I will add to your yoke: my father also chastised you with whips, but I will chastise you with scorpions.

1Ki 12:15 Wherefore the king hearkened not unto the people; for the cause was from the LORD, that he might perform his saying, which the LORD spake by Ahijah the Shilonite unto Jeroboam the son of Nebat.

You notice that it is the Lord that prevented the King from acting righteously?

Sometimes God prevents people from doing the right thing, so that His plan can come to fruitition.

Jesus gave WHITES a way to solve all the worlds problems, to bring forgiveness into this world for all WHITES.

Luk 16:8 And the lord commended the unjust steward, because he had done wisely: [b]for the children of this world [/b]are in their generation wiser than the children of light.

Luk 16:9 And I say unto you, Make to yourselves friends of the mammon of unrighteousness; that, when ye fail, they may receive you into everlasting habitations.

Unfortunately for Nferyn the children of this world (the athiests, socialists, liberals, etc ) do not run this world.

This world is ran by Christians like George Bush. And Christian nations like Europe and America.

So no matter how much he screams: I AM NOT LIKE THEM, I DO NOT BELIEVE IN THEIR GOD, I WANT TO DO BETTER BY BLACK PEOPLE.

He will still be treated just like one of them: the unwise christian children, who do not have enough sense just to make amends by giving back the money.

Which they could easily afford and in fact would make them loads more money as they paid themselves to build up the places in the planet they have torn down around the world -- middle east, africa, asia, south america, Black Americans.

However, God has another plan:

2Th 2:11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:

2Th 2:12 That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.

Look at one of the things that Jesus is coming back to do:

Rev 11:18 --- and shouldest destroy them which destroy the earth.

Look at what part of God's plan to destroy the destroyers of the earth has in it:

Isa 13:3 I have commanded my sanctified ones, I have also called my mighty ones for mine anger, even them that rejoice in my highness.

Isa 13:16 And their children shall be dashed to pieces before their eyes; their houses shall be robbed, and their wives raped.

Isa 13:17 Behold, I will stir up the Medes against them, who shall not value silver; and they shall not delight in gold.

Here it is again:

Rev 18:6 Reward her even as she rewarded you, and double unto her double according to her works: in the cup which she hath filled fill to her double.

Somebody is very, very, very pissed off about what has happenned to them in this world. One day they will rise up and destroy those who destroyed them, only they will be twice as cruel and mean. Give her double.

I could go on and on but I do not like to scare the children.

Just let me say, that me and Nferyn do come from way back. The opposite sides though.

KDK,

Now you please explain that statement.

Or don't you read a bible that tells the Jews to remember their slavery FOREVER?

Yes.

God most definitely will lead you to marriage with someone you do not love.

Look at all the people who marry for love now, and then look at the fact of how quickly they divorce.

A marriage should be based on more than 'love', that really will come with time, if respect, compatibleness, loyalty, duty, devotion are in place.

Could you do that with him? Then marry him.

If you can not be loyal and do your duty as his wife, then do not marry him.

KDK,

Smile

Oh. And please forgive me if my African Americaness does not allow me to make false distinctions between 'people doing their job' (selling and lynching and catching runaway slaves) and 'the criminals' (those who run away or kill their masters).

I've lived too long in a place, where people with degrees and who are scientists and who write the papers and publish them and wax intellectually as if they are completely innocent and what they do is then justified by these papers and writings under the excuse of 'just doing their job' is really just one big fat hypocritical lie.

Drapetomania


"Drapetomania" was a psychiatric diagnosis proposed in 1851 by Louisiana physician Samuel A. Cartwright to explain the tendency of black slaves to flee captivity. As some slave owners felt they were improving the lives of their slaves, they could not understand the slaves' desire to escape.
As such, Drapetomania is an important historical example of scientific racism. The term derives from the Greek δραπετης (drapetes, "a runaway [slave]" + μανια (mania, "madness, frenzy".

The diagnosis appeared in a paper published in the New Orleans Medical and Surgical Journal, where Dr. Cartwright argued that the tendency of slaves to run away from their captors was in fact a treatable medical disorder. His feeling was that with "proper medical advice, strictly followed, this troublesome practice that many Negroes have of running away can be almost entirely prevented." Cartwright proposed whipping as the most effective treatment of this disorder. Amputation of the toes was also prescribed

Cartwright also described another disorder, Dysaethesia Aethiopica, to explain the apparent lack of motivation exhibited by many slaves, which he also claimed could be cured by whipping.

References

Samuel A. Cartwright, "Report on the diseases and physical peculiarities of the Negro race", The New Orleans Medical and Surgical Journal 1851:691-715 (May)
-- reprinted in Concepts of Health and Disease in Medicine: Interdisciplinary Perspectives, Boston, Addison-Wesley, 1980 (Arthur Caplan, H. Tristram Engelhardt, Jr., and James McCartney, editors).
-- reprinted in Health, Disease, and Illness: Concepts in Medicine edited by Arthur L Caplan, James J McCartney, Dominic A Sisti. Washington, DC: Georgetown University Press. 2004. ISBN 1589010140

http://www.reference.com/browse/wiki/Drapetomania

Mrmayor,

That's right. There is no such thing as freewill taught in the bible for wicked people.

All they can do is act in their nature. Which serves sin.

So the terrorists sat there in their offices, signing and typing out papers that meant children around the world would be starved to death and denied the rights to the goods and money and land profits that would have fed them.

The terrorists acted in their nature and served sin, day in and day out in the World Trade Center.

The terrorists in the plane chose a more honest and honorable and less hypocritical way to kill, than the ones in the World Trade Center.

Both acted in their nature.

babs,

Moses, Joshua, King David, and many others never had a bible to follow as a handbook and they still walked and talked with God.

If you believe that being a Christian and hearing from God and a perfect manual with no contradictions and mistakses is what is required to walk with God and be a Christian.

Then you are in a world of trouble.

God is alive and well and He does not require any writing to save a soul.

As to some of your so called Contraditions, there is a very good site that goes through each one of them from a Christian point of view.

www.carm.org