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Taguchi:
Them still dey fight?

Thought it's been over for a very long time

Never heard of wado city but I know of Effurun

Wayo city you mean? Wayo people. Lol. Warri need to have their own state as a matter of fact! The old provincial map will be used. Only useless idiot still think anyone can steal anyone 's land in this age when everything had already been documented.

Both of them birthed the metro project when Tinubu was Lagos governor while Sanwo Olu brought it to fore. Kudos to them.

Nice.

AfonjaConehead:
Why will an emir insult the governor?
The emir is not as foolish and imbecilic as coneheaded structures!!

Fulani gambari is the emir of Kwara,ilorin and there's absolutely nothing any coneheaded structured elements can do about it.
Gbogbo won ma dobale sile fun emir Gambari.. 🤣🤣🤣

Emir should insult the gov,see infantile talk,what a shame,SHIOR.

Ilorin isn't enslaved like the Hausa. First, the governor is a Yoruba man. Secondly, the Ilorin have severally disposed the emir several times whenever he tried any rubbish. In fact, the emir was only an ignominious puppet brought back by the British who documented the truth in their old archive.

That said, Af0nja need to be back on his throne for justice to be actualized and also for the custodian of African culture.

In fact, the Ilorin folly back then has made the Yoruba to be even more consciously minded ever since, even though they're naturally accommodating.

In fact, I think the Ilorin folly back then happened for a reason to serve as a lesson and ensure Yoruba won't thread such path of foolishness. For example, Azikwe thought he could try gibberish before Awolowo put him in his place.

christistruth01:
May God Bless your Wisdom and Truth

The Yorubas in Ilorin had done a revolution against the Emir because of the Fulani's excesses in Ilorin and after which Emir Momoh deleted himself by burning down his Palace over his head
People.used to think that it was the Northern Emirs that pressed the British to reimpose the next in Line as Emir in Ilorin but it didn't make sense to me because they way the British operated they would have first sought after one of Balogun Alanamu's immediate relatives who was willing to submit to them to replace him as Balogun

It was not until I heard one Historian saying that the reason the the British reinstated an Emir in Ilorin was because he was the one who gave them the secret information with which the Sultan of Sokoto Attahiru who had escaped after loosing to Lord Lugard in Battle was traced to Gombe and finally killed by Lord Lugard there

The British rewarded the Emir by reinstating him.as Ilorin's ruler
But still yet when the British left they agreed that it was not appropriate for him to be ruling over a Yoruba Majority Town and there needed to be a Referendum for all of Kwara because apart from Ilorin most parts of Kwara including Jebbawere not under the Emir and wanted to rejoin the Western Region
It was Azikiwe and Bakewa Govt that refused to carry out the Kwara referendum because they knew that the Kwara people were determined to join the West and Bakewa and Zik Govt wanted to weaken Awolowo'


Please kindly tell me the title of the book you quoted I would like to read it

Of course the Fulani couldn't get near any Yoruba
Kingdoms. They always get defeated as a matter of fact and retreated back to where they came from. It was Ilorin who joined hand to murder af0nja.

That was the reason for my tongue in cheek comment when I said Af0nja curse was still in play over Ilorin then, considering he was murdered unjustly, albeit he caused the mess for himself to begin with by inviting a terrorist into his Ilorin kingdom). I meant the British brought back the deposed useless emir as a puppet after the Ilorin had already deposed and chased him out before the British arrival. Albeit the British documented the truth in their archive 💤 As a matter of fact, the Ilorin had severally disposed the emir ever since then whenever he tried any nonsense. However, Af0nja needs to be back on his throne, coupled with the fact that the Africa kings are the custodian of African cultures, not the position of an emir.

I wonder how Ilorin could have been so foolish to not have known that the murderous Fulani wanted their land heritage from them until they later realised their folly after they were getting murdered by the Fulani thus chased out the useless emir from Ilorin before the British arrival.

As for the book, it's the last expedition of captain clapperton in Africa.

christistruth01:
Miseducated you mean
You don't know Ilorin History and you refused to learn it

Over 90% of Ilorin are Pure Yoruba



And For the 1000th time

Do you know that the Yorubas had finished defeating the Ilorin Emir the British reinstated him as a reward for selling out the Sultan of Sokoto when Lord Lugard ambushed and killed him in Gombe

That aside

Kwara Governors are always Yorubas ,any Traditional Ruler that Misbehaves they are free to Remove

Emir of Ilorin fully Submits to them
He has no Choice

Emir of Ilorin was Checkmated long ago
He is a Servant of the Governor
All Kwara Governors are Sons of the Soil

We already have Ilorin because we Control Kwara

What remains are religious differences between our own People


The British fought the Yoruba Ruler of ilorin called balogun Inakoju alanamu in 1900 to take Over Ilorin

The Emir had already been defeated and deposed by him and his followers

balogun alanamu was the Yoruba Ruler of ilorin

The rest is Tribal Politics

There are some Historians who even claim the real reason the British reinstated the Emir in Ilorin was because he was the one that gave Lord Lugard the information that was used to Track down and kill the fleeing Sultan of Sokoto Caliphate Attahiru and his Jihadist Army at Gombe
So the British reinstated hin as Emir of Ilorin as a reward

Many Fulani even see the Emir of Ilorin as a Traitor who sold out the Sultan of Sokoto Attahiru and his Sokoto Caliphate to the British

The Yorubas also deposed the Emir of Ilorin in 1934 he fled to Kaduna and was again reinstated by the British after 2 years

Just beg the Emir to try nonsense with the Yoruba Governor and see if he isn't removed

Read 1900 British Colonial Document below

Apt. Ilorin already chased out the emir and the Fulanis because of the murderous act of the Fulani before the British arrival. The Fulanis and the emir ran back to where they came from. It was the British who brought back the emir as a mere puppet but wrote down the truth in their old archive.

The Fulani couldn't even get near the Yoruba to begin with. Read below to see how they have always been disgraced and retreated. The nerves to call Yoruba religion idolatry whereas they bow to a foreign idol stone! The nerves! The Fulani don't even know that the Yoruba religion tells the history of the pieces that make up the world. That being said, The murderous Fulani had always been disgraced from Yoruba land as a matter of fact. Imagine wanting to steal other people's land heritage? The nerves!

It was Ilorin who joined hand to murder Af0onja because they were stupid until they later realised their foolery thus chased out the Fulani and the emir before the British arrival.

Anyways, Af0onja need to be back on his throne as the custodian of African culture. That's not the position of an emir..

Dsimmer:
The BDC should be totally banned sef. They're money launderers.

They all should be banned or regulated . Everyone including the Banks must have their dollar account with CBN to monitor any rogue. Crypto should also be regulated and registered as money service company which should be regulated or banned!

All speculators and launderers which include crypto and BDC should be regulated or banned. Likewise the Banks who should be monitored.

If it's not to invest in industrialization which also includes large scale mechanized farming in combination with agro industrialization, I don't see why individuals should be getting dollars from CBN for example.

All speculators and launderers which include crypto and BDC should be regulated or banned. Likewise the Banks who should be monitored.

If it's not to invest in industrialization which also includes large scale mechanized farming in combination with agro industrialization, I don't see why individuals should be getting dollars from CBN for example.

Good one.

yinkeys:
I thought there was an agreement between the Yorubas in Ilorin
and Fulanis/Hausas to help defend their lands against the throne in Ife. That’s why an emir is there and not a Yoruba king

No. Alimi was invited by Ilorin ruler, Af0onja because Af0onja was scared of Oyo empire king reprimanding/admonishing him for something he had done. Af0onja eventually distanced himself from the Oyo empire who could have rendered help when Alimi and his son betrayed and murdered Af0onja in the end. How I dislike murderous betrayers!🙄 Imagine killing people who accommodated you in their lands? The nerves! Anyway, it was Af0onja who caused the whole mess for himself to begin with. While dying, Af0onja cursed Ilorin to be enslaved for joining hands with a useless terrorist foreigner to murder him over some useless foreign terrorist dumb shit they imbibed.

That curse was in play over Ilorin. It's only Ilorin people who can break that curse by relieving themselves from the whole dumb madness they imbibed. Of course, I understand that Ilorin people already deposed the emir before the arrival of the British who stated it in their old archive. That was because the Fulani started killing the Yoruba in Ilorin while calling them infidels 🙄 thus the emir was deposed and chased out. I wondered what Ilorin people were thinking to begin with because if they had been using their brain, they would have known the Fulani had wanted to steal their land heritage from them because if Af0onja who was even a Muslim and a close friend of Alimi was declared an infidel to be murdered, what were they expecting?🙄 Anyways, while I understand that the emir had been disposed and chased out before the arrival of the British who stated that in the old archive as a matter of fact however Af0onja need to be back on his throne. More so, the African kings are the custodians of african cultures. That was what Afoonja, the ruler of ilorin represented. That's not the position of an emir.

imam07:
Do u know why u are funny and confused. You met two female kids and u got some wrong information from them and believed them by coming to misinformation other people like you. If you think kwara state is ilorin and ilorin is kwara. U have to check yourself very well. Those kids u met are ilorin indegen and have nothing to do with other big towns in Kwara state. Ilorin town is d capital of kwara state and stop thinking anyone from kwara state is ilorin. So to you an ibo man living in ilorin is ilorin man to you? For your information, Ilorin indegen comprises of Muslim, yoruba and fulanis. They are all predominantly Muslims in ilorin. There other towns in Kwara state that are Christians, Muslims yorubas. I mean yorubas dat migrated from ife. So any time u hear of gambari or fulanis in Kwara. Know that they are only talking of Ilorin. Ilorin is not kwara and kwara is not ilorin. Offa, Omu aran, Oro, jebba, Ajase, Osi, lafiaji, Share and others are made of kwara.

Ilorin just as the name depict is a Yoruba name, a Yoruba land of Yoruba people.

Hausa are the ones called Gambari by Yoruba. That's why Yoruba says "ti gambari ati Fulani ba n ja, ko sejo ni be". So Yoruba always knew Gambari (Hausa) and Fulani were different!

High time Ilorin had an Oba. The cultural Kings are the custodians of african cultures which is needed in ilorin as a matter of fact. That was what Afoonja, the ruler of ilorin represented. That's not the position of an emir. I don't even see the purpose of an emir because there are Mosques and Churches where these supposed foreign religion should take place. But when it comes to an african ruler, it should be upholding the african culture.

The BDC should be totally banned sef. They're money launderers.

They all should be banned or regulated. Everyone including the Banks must have their dollar account with CBN to monitor any rogue. Crypto should also be regulated and registered as money service company which should be regulated or banned!

Imagine.

The ritualist herbalist/imam/pastor should also be apprehended and hanged. These so called money ritualist herbalist/imam/pastor will only desist from such lunacy when they know they will be punished.

There's nothing like money ritual! What sort of lunacy is that? Nonsense! There's nothing like money ritual in IFA for example! There's nothing like money ritual!

Ebi2233:
Sowore is Ijaw not claiming to be.

Sowore is a Yoruba name. The name ese odo, a Yoruba name is a Yoruba land occupied by Yoruba with some ijaw who came for fishing, thus mixing together with the Yoruba from Ife. The whole place is called ese odo which is Yoruba name and they speak Yoruba. Ijaw always stays by the sea side but couldn't stay by the sea side in Ondo because Ilaje were already there. No way Ijaw flew over Itsekiri who are closer to Ondo to own land in Ondo state. In fact, the treaties signed was by the Ilaje and Ikale. It was Ilaje and Ikale who rented out ese odo to some ijaw fishermen who mixed with the Yoruba in ese odo.

An old map below.

swagana:
Stop repeating same age old lies passed to you by your fathers. You and I who is playing victim card here? I hate to read long essays like yours full of shiit next time make it Shotter and readable.
I do not want to engage you in the argument of whether the coup is Igbo coup or not because we can't undone the past. Keep blaming Ironsi who was head of state for only six for inability of Nigeria to make progress after sixty years he was murdered shows how useless and incompetent Fulani and Yoruba leaders are. You also blame Tinubu's disappointing and disgraceful leadership on Ironsi and Zik.

The truth can't be subjugated while you chat gibberish!

Igbo which included Azikwe started the coup to murder other regional leaders except Eastern regional leaders.

Aguiyi came in, abolished Nigeria best true federalism while protecting the coup plotters thus leading to counter coup whereby Ironsi was killed while the Hausa chased out Igbo out of their land.

Thus, Ojukwu asked for secession but in his greediness and covetousness, wanted other people's land and was dealt with!

These are the truth staring at your face!

What did I say? The crypto which includes binance are money launderers. They need to be either regulated or banned!

swagana:
So Asaba is Igboland right?Btw he was from Okpanam.
Why should I care anymore what you calls the coup since other Nigerians took their revenge on Igbos both military and civilians based on the same accusation of Igbo coup.Even if it is Igbo coup hold the culprits responsible.Oh they are all dead.Why do you want me to feel guilty of offense I was not born when it was committed?

You can't subjugate the truth while playing the victim and insulting others. Even though I sometimes keep quiet and just find all the victim playing attempt and insult as amusement however, I sometimes set the record straight to uphold the truth.

As a matter of fact after independence, everyone wanted secession, including the core North however, Azikiwe didn't want secession but pleaded for one Nigeria with the already regional system which was in place before independence. However what Awolowo didn't know was Azikwe's greed to dominate everyone in their region.

After Awolowo foiled Azikwe's plan in the West, Azikiwe colluded with Bello to sabotage the South. In his mind, the Hausa were less educated to fool but he forgot the "power loving" mentality of the Fulani in the Hausa region who enslaved the Hausas in Hausa land. After Azikwe colluded with the North, Azikwe had the supremacy while the Fulani and the Hausa held on to the Hausa region. In fact, the Fulani read the intention of the Igbo ancestors thus didn't allow them to have any inch of Igbo supremacy in the Hausa land. While the Fulani and the Igbos merry together, The Yoruba rather looked on and faced themselves in their region. Despite all that, Azikiwe and his goons weren't still satisfied. Eventually, they planned a coup to murder other regional leaders which included the Hausa leader, Balewa who was a friend of Azikwe who knew of the plan thus went touring on trip at the time the murder coup was going on. They only spared the Eastern leaders. That was how the merriment became sour.

After the coup, Aguiyi took over as planned and abolished the regionalism system while zoning power to the center which Aguiyi ruled. Others which included the Hausa wanted justice for their leaders who were murdered in the coup but Aguiyi didn't bother thus, the counter coup and the fight between the Easterners and the Hausa who chased out the Igbos from the North region thereby culminating into Ojukwu asking for secession. While all these were going on, the Yoruba were still neutral until the covetous lout Ojukwu started marching into other grounds such as the Southwest and Midwest after he already marched into Efik, Ijaw, Ibibi etc region.

But today, we have some playing the victim and insulting others when they're the pioneer of the mess.

swagana:
I do not care what you call the coup that is your prerogative,however the topic of this thread is about how Nzeogwu a Southsouth man from Delta state killed Ademulegun.How does it concern Easterners since Nzeogwu is from Delta state and a Bini man by tribe?

You don't care after you realized it was an Igbo coup? But some of you were constantly playing the victim while forgetting that it was Igbo that caused the mess in the first place? Lol.

Btw, Kaduna Nzeogwu is as an Asaba.

swagana:
This thread is about Nzeogwu killing of Ademulegun stop being mischievous.
Those people you mentioned were not with Nzeogwu in Kaduna when he killed Ademulegun except Tim Onwuatuegwu who was equally according you guys a Niger Deltan.
Your fathers carried out what they called revenge coup in july 1966 and killed over 300 Igbo officers including Aguiyi Ironsi I wonder why you are still bitter and crying after taking your revenge.

It was an Igbo coup which murdered every regional leaders except the easterners yet some play the victim today.

And what revenge are you even talking about? Last I knew, one of the major reason why Yoruba fought back was because of the covetous greedy lout Ojukwu who wanted to grab other people's land thus matched into Midwest and Southwest.

Yujin:
Were the 4 regions controlling their resources during Ironsi's time? If not, how were they getting funds during his time and state how it was during Gowon's time.
You guys don't know that all the old lies have been busted and the truth laid bare for all to see.

No.

It was already zoned to the center.

If I'm using Yoruba IFA interpretation, I think I understand Satan better. IFA itself speak in parable, just as the ebo are rather creative and educative symbolism. And no, Satan didn't fight with God like some thought.

Yoruba IFA interpretation did help me to understand some stuff, even as I also know that the ebo are only educative symbolisms.

For example, I know that Olorun Olodumare Ayeraye is the name of the God almighty. Elarowaye which is his begotten child represents his manifestation. It is Elarowaye that ensured the manifestation of these infinite creations thus manifesting the light (Obatala) inside Oduduwa (black vessel/womb) thus creating the universe and everything that makes it.

Philosophically, Eshu represents our free will which makes decision whether good or bad. Whatever decision we make, there's an end result. Eshu also represent natural laws, orderliness and reform. We all know without law and order to ensure balance, the world will be in chaos. Anyone who steal for example should expect punishment. So Eshu represents natural laws, orderliness and reform, thus, the 10 commandments which is actually natural laws. Prior to the 10 commandment, there was also the commandment over the tree in the garden. But through freewill, men defied the commandment and ate it, lol. Well, since man defied it 😂, he became subjected to punishment. This continued when the 10 commandments were also defied. One could see the justice aspect of God in the old testament whenever anyone failed to uphold the 10 commandment. The coming of Jesus (IFA calls it Elarowaye the word or Jewesun the lamb) was to show the reforming and merciful aspect of God. Hence, we can now say justice should always be rendered with mercy, especially if it warrants it. In a drama I saw for example, a poor elderly aged man who stole food to eat was arrested and taken to court but when it was discovered how poor he lived, his sentence was quite lessened. That's justice rendered with mercy. So while Law should be without mercy however justice should be rendered with mercy, especially if it warrants it.

As for the resurrection of Jesus, It was to abolish animal sacrifices and was also needed for him to conquer death itself before rising up to show people that God owns everything, including death itself, thus can raise up anyone.

As for the Orishas, these are the intelligent and creative talents present within every individuals, even as depicted by the ancient Yoruba ancestors. Celebrating these ancient Yoruba ancestors or festival of these ancient ancestors is to celebrate cultural history and also a constant reminder to bring forth these intelligent creative talents for the betterment of the world, just like the ancestors such as Ogun, Oko, Sango, Osoosi, Oya, Olokun etc had done.

gidgiddy:
That's the lie they have been telling people like for a long time. But the truth is that it was Gowon who abolished the 4 Region's Nigeria had and crea12 states, using Decree 14, then removed resource control with Decree 12, Google is your friend

It was a unitary template where 4 regions were operating. Thus, it was more or less like 4 states operating in a unitary template. Gowon only increased the number of the states.

Each governor should embark on investment into at least 3 large scale farming combined with agro industrialization in their states.

lexy2014:
did you ask your Papa before you said that they are money launderers?

which Cardoso are you talking about?

how are they money launderers?

who are they laundering money for?

Ask your Papa na, since you're stupid not to know the USA moved against crypto laundering in their country.

lexy2014:
which Cardoso are you talking about?

how are they money launderers?

who are they laundering money for?

Go ask your Papa na. The Crypto are money launderers I repeat!

lexy2014:
which Cardoso are you talking about?

is Crypto the reason for high cost of dollars?

Yes! They're money launderers!

The rogue banks would soon start doing whatever they like with it. Cardoso had better start operating strictly like the strict Jamb registrar Oloye if he wants a huge improvement.

He needs to regulate the banks and ensure it goes digital. All the Nigerian banks must have their dollar accounts with CBN so the CBN can be aware of any interaction with useless rogue politicians and useless speculators or the CBN should stop giving dollars to the rogue banks altogether.

Also, Crypto which includes binance are no different from speculators, BDC and money launderers. They must be registered as money service company and regulated or banned totally.

CSTRR:
Yeah keep regurgitating nonsense.

The nonsense that your bigoted father discuss with you while drinking paraga.

In 2027, come back.
If hunger never finish you by then, then I would have time for you then.

Another balderdash! Tell Pandoraa Obi to go develop his state before talking trash! Heck, he's living in Tinubu's Lagos! A bigoted idiot like you who wanted to impose a failed governor on Nigeria is talking about bigotry? The nerves! Tell Peter Obi to go develop his state first!

gidgiddy:
Did they? Last time an Igbo man was in charge, you still had 4 Region's and resource control. Then Gowon came in and all 4 Region's plus resource control disappeared. It was the Northerners that wrecked true federalism

Aguiyu already zoned it to the center. Aguiyu was operating a unitary template before Gowon took over.

nairalanda1:
Nigeria did not have true federalism before 1966..

What we had was three major tribes oppressing minorites. The midwest region was formed to end minority oppression. There was a move for states even back then.

Also, NIgerians did not have a good life before 1966.

Nigeria had true Federalism.

There were moves for minorities region, for example the COR (Calabar, Ibibio and Ogoja region) and Ijaw region which weren't granted by Ojukwu and Azikiwe.

swagana:
Which Easterners?He was a Niger Deltan.Che una talk say no Igbo in Southsouth abi na only when bad thing happen you people will link them to Igbos but at peace time they are not Igbos right?Nzeogwu was from Okpanan in Delta state,how is he an Easterner?

You do know it isn't only Nzeogwu though.

The Army majors which include Emmanuel Ifeajuna, Timothy Onwuatuegwu, Chris Anuforo, Don Okafor, Humphrey Chukwuka, Kaduna Nzeogwu and Adewale Ademoyega plotted a coup to murder other regional leaders while sparing only the eastern regional leaders and paved way for Aguiyi who destroyed Nigeria true federalism.