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Good move.

The three major corrupt sectors are the banks selling to the aboki et al, the nnpc and electricity distribution companies. In fact, every dollars that come into every bank must be made accounted for!

Tackle and restructure these three sectors for once!

Also devolution in every sectors!

That's more investments and production at home. It's good.

That's good!

The country should continue to move towards more production at home. Nigeria can achieve it like China and others.

On another note, I don't see reason why dollar should determine the currency of any country at all. A stop is needed!

"Aroko" Yoruba was Yoruba ancient hieroglyphics.

AntiChristian:
Who is He/She/It?

All I know is that Samson was empowered to kill by the Holy Spirit!
Yet millions of Christians can't kill a few thousand Boko Haram when they all have the Holy Spirit!

Yes he was empowered. Same way Yoruba have their warriors such as Ogun, Osoosi, Sango, Oya , Akogun etc who were empowered with strength and talents to combat against terrorists, aside their creative and innovative talents.

That's what some people should know. That a person starts to practice some foreign religion doesn't mean people won't defend their ancestral home against useless terrorists. In fact, IFA always talk about defending Yoruba ancestral homes which are all mentioned in Ifa.

True.

Tinubu had several legacies while he was Lagos governor. That can be said for an absymal governor like Obi who was a failure as a state governor.

He should simply return the looted money. That's called restitution. That includes Buhari's co looters such as his nephew and his co looters which include the Nigeria air scam looting.

Annoying thing is these useless looters couldn't even invest the money in industrialization which would have helped the people. Bunch of useless folks!

True. Very corrupt man. Plus Buhari and co looters for example Zainab Ahmed, His nephew sabiu and the Nigeria Air scam.

The Corrupt sectors are banks, nnpc and electricity distribution companies. These Three exactly! I don't even know what the electricity distribution companies are doing exactly. Useless people.

IFA makes us understand Eshu better. Eshu as the orisha of crossroads is our freewill which makes decision whether good or bad. So basically, Eshu is our decision making.

Philosophically , Eshu represents our freewill which makes decision whether good or wrong. That's why Eshu is called the Orisha of cross roads. Eshu also represent natural laws, orderliness and reform which is needed in every society to maintain orders and balance. Eshu is also a good economist who know the values of things thus why Eshu tend to collect gem stones which are used for lots of things such as ornamental, architecture walls etc.

As for the philosophical interpretation of ebo, ebo are educative symbolisms to depict scientific knowledge, agriculture, medicinal plants, nutrition, creativity etc. For example, oil is used as ebo sacrifices to Ogun. However, Ogun represent iron/mechanical engines and we all know oil lubricant is needed in mechanical engines to function properly.

Point is there's no reason to fear Eshu, considering Eshu is within us, just like Ifa says all the orisha live within us. Esu is simply our decision making whether good or bad. Eshu also represent natural law, orderliness and reform. As a matter of fact, all the Orishas are simply intelligent creative attributes which live within us.

On a side note, I think Satan in the scripture can be understood better in the sense that he doesn't have the power to fight against God like some people thought. Satan was only given dominion to render justice whenever anyone did wrong, especially after the fall of man, until the coming of the begotten son of God, Jesus who came to take over with mercy. So, only Jesus now justifies and since he's merciful, he's bound to be merciful. Remember when David prayed that he would rather fall into God's hand in terms of punishment because according to him, he knew God was merciful. IFA calls this begotten child of God, Elarowaye or Jewesun.

Meanwhile, the Orishas are simply the intelligence and creative attributes within us which are meant to be brought forth into technical realities for the betterment of the society, aside the fact that the orishas also represent Yoruba ancestors, considering the Yoruba ancestors were named according to Orisha names while they also showcased the creative talents within them.

Hence, the idea of Yoruba venerating Yoruba ancestors (Orishas) is to celebrate cultural history thus acting as a constant reminder to bring forth the intelligence and creative talents within us for the betterment of the society, just like our ancestors had done. As for the ebo, the ebo are educative symbolisms to depict agriculture, medicinal plants, nutrition, creativity.. Basically, the festival and monumental designs of these Orishas only serve as symbols of cultural history and a constant reminder of the need to bring forth our intelligence and creative attributes into reality, just like our ancient Yoruba ancestors had done.

For example, Orisha Oko represents Agriculture (mechanized farming and agro industries). Orisha Ogun represents iron, metallurgy, mechanical engines, biochemical industries etc. Sango represents civilization, commerce, industrialization, electricity etc. And so-on. These are the intelligence creative aspects.

Spiritually though, the God almighty is Olodumare Ayeraye whose begotten child is Elarowaye (or Jewesun) which is his word and visible manifestation according to IFA.

Elarowaye is also referred to as Orunmila which means wisdom. Of course the first IFA priest is Orunmila however, it's stated that Elarowaye born of a virgin woman (oyigi) came to take over the Orunmila role which has always been Elarowaye's role from the beginning. This is similar to how Moses was the first priest before Jesus (Yeshu) came to take over the priesthood role.

It's funny how Yoruba religion is quite similar to the Hebrew. I'm still wondering where the Yoruba connection with the Hebrew is from.

Expanse2020:
So is that any other verses that can proof Jesus is invisible in some occasion unless you lied

Can't you read and comprehend? That particular verse says he walked out through the midst of them! So how did he run away? Go brush up your brain joor instead of filling it with Arab jargons. He walked out through the midst of them. They simply couldn't do anything. Either their hands became stuck & immobile thus couldn't throw stones or he became invisible to them, considering he once walked on water. However, one thing made known was he walked out through the midst of them.

ecolime:
Èkó ò ní bàjé oo

Makinde and Dapo Abiodun, what are you guys doing?

Build independent power stations and ensure top notch security. Then go out and attract more investors.

Goods are relatively cheaper to manufacture here now with the crazy Naira devaluation. These guys can come in, produce and export to other African countries from here.

Please turn our woes to our competitive advantage.

Learn from China

Exactly.

The state governors should be investing in more industrialization!

Cromagnon:
then why did they change it if it was only in the west
There was no competition
South west was making it difficult to loot by executing projects so others were forced to copy badly
Nothing stops states or local govts from doing same,but keep waiting for Regions you hear
Things were only better because we hadn't wrecked what white man left

That's why Regionalism should be restored. As you said, the region had to improve when they saw other region improving. Whereas today, the states see several other states not doing much hence won't even bother. Of course the states should still stand with the state governors but it should be in a region with a competent regional leader. First , it would be easier for the regional leader to easily oversee the states under him while mapping out the developmental and productivity plan of the region and also ensuring each state governor is doing his task of improving the state he govern.

What some governors who lack oversight don't even know is the more they invest in the production of the state such as industrialization which also includes agro industries in combination with large scale mechanized farming, the economy and wealth of the state will improve the more, thus making things easier.

Expanse2020:
🤣🤣😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
He became invisible really
Tell me more

Even the same verse said he walked out through the midst of them. Or you can't read and understand again? 😂 So how did he run away exactly, considering he was in the same temple with them? 😂

You can't understand simple things. All you know is filling and destroying your brain with Arab trash! 😂

Only a mental case or someone trying to be funny take serious that useless peadophilic Arab terrorist Mohammed who came several centuries later to fabricate rubbish about the history of the Jews, different from the original. Is that in his place to begin with? Is it in his place to be fabricating gibberish different from the original history of the Jews?

What even annoyed me the most was how the Arabs stole North Africa lands after murdering North Africans!

Good one.

ahmedio2017:
You are just twisting scriptures, you have no idea.

You're the one twisting the scripture. The scripture says Jesus is the begotten child of God but you're wailing. Lol. Jesus said it himself that he's the begotten child of God. It was the word of God that became flesh. The scripture says "In the beginning, there was the word and the word was with God and the word is God. And the word became flesh and dwelled among us". One thing you can say is Jesus did portray God's attributes on earth. He was pure, full of wisdom and kind, aside his miraculous powerful nature.

ahmedio2017:
I have told you before that you lack knowledge about Christianity. Jesus told Satan that it has been written that it is ONLY God that he should serve. Jesus Christ PBUH affirm there is only one God, and he only is worthy of serving.

Jesus rebuked him and said he shouldn't tempt him who's his God Lord who should be the one to be worshipped.

You lack wisdom. If you didn't, you would know that the things (cosmos) that created the earth all came as humans on earth. Obatala which is the light that started the earth creation existed as a human. Oduduwa, the black vaccum matter that continued the creation of the earth also existed as a human. Creative & innovative knowledge/ideas such as Ogun which represents iron, mechanical engines etc while Oko represent Agriculture all existed as humans on earth.

However, no one knew how to depict God, thus his word also came as a human to portray God in his purity, wisdom and mercy. IFA knows it as Ela which is the word and only begotten child of Eledumare. It's also known as Jewesun, the Lamb. While the Jews knows it as Jesus, the only begotten child of God.

Expanse2020:
so you don't understand English again..check Google to solve the English Wahala for you naw

You're the one who's got a problem with comprehension.

The verse of the same chapter said he was in the temple with them but they couldn't seize him, so how was he able to slip away from them when he was in the same temple with them while the scripture stated that he went through the midst of them?

The question you should be asking is how did he slip away? But considering that he walked on water and the fact that the verse of that particular same chapter said no one could seize him should tell you whatzup already if you're using your brain. It means he became invisible to them and walked out.

Expanse2020:
What is the meaning of slipping away please

The question is how did he slip away?

Same person walked on water or have you forgotten?

Expanse2020:
Just closed your mouth and shame yourself you don't know anything in the bible
“You are not yet fifty years old,” they said to him, “and you have seen Abraham!”

58 “Very truly I tell you,” Jesus answered, “before Abraham was born, I am!” 59[b] At this, they picked up stones to stone him, but Jesus hid himself, slipping away from the temple grounds.[/b] NO BE HERE BABA JAPA 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Abeg leave that poor guy only jàre no gram am again

You can't even quote properly. I had to start helping you insert your own comment in your own quoted post.

As for the quoted verse. He was in temple preaching, so how did he slip away? Lol.

Don't forget just before the verse you quoted, verse 20 of the same chapter 8 says "He spoke these words while teaching in the temple courts near the place where the offerings were put. Yet no one seized him, because his hour had not yet come"

So he was in the Temple, no one could seize him despite him being in the Temple with them. It means No one could touch or see him when he wanted to move away. Have you forgotten he walked on the water?

Same person scattered the Jew trade in the temple.

Expanse2020:
Your lord is poor that if he speak he speak in public the Jew will stone him and he will run away,,not only poor but coward small thing japa

Lol.

Funny There was a never a time Jesus ran away when the Jews wanted to stone him though. It was stated that he always walked through the midst of them whenever they were angry and they couldn't do anything to him because it wasn't his time to die yet. Same person who scattered the Jews trade inside the temple?

And don't forget he fed the multitude to the extent that the multitude wanted to crown him as a king hence he took off.

And that was the problem of the Jews. They felt the Messiah would be a king living large on earth and wouldn't be someone living like an ordinary man except for his powerful miracles. However, what they didn't know was the kingship description of him was a spiritual depiction of him.. besides, if he had come as a king, the people would have feared him which wasn't what he intended to do. His intentions was to depict the purity, mercy and salvation of God. Funny the Jews began to wait for the messiah after Jesus already left 😂 until they were later dispersed into Europe. The point was the Jews didn't believe there was no Messiah (son of God) to begin with because the scripture promised them that there would be one. So they were waiting for the messiah.

Another fact is the Jews were Africans and Jesus was an African.

Also in the scripture, Christianity wasn't enforced on anyone. Jesus didn't force it on anyone. In fact, the Romans and other Europeans actually came to enslave the Jews but in the end, they were the ones who accepted the scriptures and started telling it to their European counterparts. It wasn't forced on them.

That can't be said for Arabic Islam with the stone idol deity called allah. Although I know some have ulterior motives in hand but then again, the peadiphilic terrorist Mohammed started it with the ulterior motives to begin with. He murdered people to steal their lands for his Arab people who wanted to continue such acts until the Europeans dealt with their useless terrorist selves. Bunch of useless people. Meanwhile, some Africans act as their stooges but forget to realize that the motive of the Arabs is to steal African lands and the land of the world at large. Heck, Mohammad called the blacks several nonsense name in his nonsense Quran. Annoying thing was how they stole the northern Africans lands after murdering the Northern Africans.

True. The state governors should be setting more agricultural projects in the state to begin with. I don't see why each state governor can't invest in at least 2 agricultural project which includes combination of mechanized farming and agro industrialization in his state.

ahmedio2017:
Luke 4:8

And Jesus answered and said to him, “Get behind Me, Satan! For it is written, ‘You shall worship the LORD your God, and Him only you shall serve.’ ”


Oya interpret that verse for us, Omo Yoruba ata ta ni mi, so stop saying rub.bish.

What exactly are you saying exactly?

The whole verse was talking about the temptation of Satan who tempted him to turn stone to food, and also asked him to fall because he would be lifted up etc.. Do you even realize that he rebuked Satan not to tempt him because he's Satan's God when he told him that "thou shall not tempt your Lord God".

I said if you understood Yoruba, it wouldn't be difficult for you to understand. IFA states that Eledumare/Olorun is One God Almighty who's got one begotten child called Ela (who's his Word). These are the supreme being who created the world and the Orishas.

The scripture states that in the beginning, there was the word, and the word was with God and the word is God! And the word became flesh...

In Ifa, there are also the Orishas which represents innovative ideas and creativities such as Orisha Oko which represent Agriculture; Orisha Ogun which represent iron, warrior, metallurgy, mechanical engines; Oduduwa represent Creativity, Civilization, commerce and industrialization etc. However these Orishas are also Yoruba ancestors who actually came on earth to display these innovative and creative talents on earth.

So the word of God also came on earth to depict God who's pure, full of wisdom etc.. Ifa calls it Ela, the word of God and only begotten child of Eledumare. It's also known as Jewesun, the Lamb. The Jews knows it as Jesus.

Good move.

Meanwhile, Some projects can also be started amidst all the corruption perpetuated by the last administration. The easier way to start these projects is by viewing it through the lens of 6 geopolitical regional zone while enumerating these projects such as:

1. Electricity power plants.
2. Agricultural revolution which involves the combination of mechanised farming and agro industries.
3. Livestock farming which involves modern ranches and its agro product industries.
4. Mineral industrialization.
5. More Roads construction.

1. First project which is electricity power plants. Ensure one electricity power plant is built in each of the 6 geopolitical regions. That's like 6 electricity power plants projects to be invested in. However, two electricity power plants can be built in a region that have few electricity power plants to begin with.

2. Second project is more agriculture project. Ensure in the investment of at least 2 agriculture projects which involves the combination of both mechanised farming and agro industry are sited in each of the 6 geopolitical regions. That's about 12 agriculture projects to be invested in, according to the 6 geopolitical regions.

3. Livestock farming project. Ensure one modern ranch combined with its agro product industry, such as milk, leather etc) is sited in each of the 6 geopolitical region. The indigents of each geopolitical zones will be employed in it. That's about 6 modern ranches according to the 6 geopolitical regions. However, Two ranches can be sited in the North Central middle belt region. Apart from helping the economy, These ranches will also help to curb insecurity because every region have their own ranches hence any useless idiot trespassing will be easily dealt with.

4. Mineral industrialization. Look into the mineral resources available in each geopolitical region and invest in the building of the mineral processing industries for the minerals.

5. More road constructions. In fact, the known reputable construction companies should be simply called and given these road projects with the cost already provided by these reputable construction company, instead of dabbling around with politicians who would add their own looted money to it.

6. Refineries which is also under the mineral industrialization project. Privatise the old refineries and invest in new ones, including modular refineries.

If Tinubu can set all these projects (electricity, agriculture etc) in motions in all the 6 geopolitical regions, these fruitful projects are going to help the economy on the long run.

After these projects are set in motion, Tinubu should continue to fight against the corruption perpetuated by the last Buhari administration, as well as corrupt bank CEO hoarding dollars and selling to aboki and also perpetuating corruption. Also any present ministers and politicians doing nothing tangible while perpetuating corruption.

ahmedio2017:
You must be a mu.mu, why then there is contradictions in the bible?

Even that same Bible refer to Jesus as God and that same Jesus Christ PBUH said it is only God that you should serve your God and my God, so what can you say about that?


U no get any tangible evidence u go explain tire ode. Oponu.

Ode, Jesus is referred to as God because Jesus is the Word of God. That was why I said if you understood Yoruba, it wouldn't be difficult for you to understand.

ahmedio2017:
Although St. Paul was not one of the original 12 Apostles of Jesus, he was one of the most prolific contributors to the New Testament. Of the 27 books in the New Testament, 13 or 14 are traditionally attributed to Paul, though only 7 of these Pauline epistles are accepted as being entirely authentic and dictated by St.



Useless liar. You learn that one too from Paul....

Ode with dumb brain, I told you the books which Paul wrote which were his letters to Romans, Ephesians, Thessalonians, Greeks etc.

He didn't write John or revelation for example. That were written by John!

In the New testament, Jesus stated as a matter of fact that he's the son of God.

Jesus was an African, not a an Arab man.

Jesus didn't worship a stone idol deity called allah.

ahmedio2017:
Ok who wrote new testament?

The disciples of Jesus did, including John who was the closest to Jesus. John also described Jesus in revelation when he said heaven was opened to him to see Jesus on his throne. John described him as one who has a white woolen hair, eyes of flaming fire and legs which looks like bronze/brass which have been burnt in a furnace. Bronze is brown colour, imagine when burnt in a furnace. That's even more darkened.

Daniel also described Jesus in his revelation before Jesus was even born in Daniel 7:9 and Daniel 10:5-6 Daniel said the one he saw on throne in his revelation has a pure woolen hair with eyes that look like a flaming touchlight with arms and legs looking like burnished bronze/brass while his voice sound like voice of multitude.

As a matter of fact, the Jews/Hebrew that left Egypt were black in colour. The Egyptians called these Hebrews Cananites because they were black like the Cananites while non Egyptians called the Hebrews the Egyptians because they were black like Egyptians and stayed in Egypt before they returned back to Canaan. Even the terracotta head below shows the typical African woolen hair and African colour.

We also know the first Human on earth was a black man.

On a side note, even without all these, are you stupid to not have known that Jesus existed before the Terrorist Peadophilic Mohammad? So when did Jesus become an Arab man worshiping a stone idol deity called allah? I wonder why some tend to dumb down their brain with Arab trash!

ahmedio2017:
You don't know what you are saying oga, I told you to always say Paul said and not Jesus said OKAY ?

Ode, Paul didn't write the New testament. He only wrote letters to the Thessalonians, Greeks, Romans etc.

In the New testament, Jesus stated as a matter of fact that he's the son of God.

Jesus was an African, not a an Arab man.

Jesus didn't worship a stone idol deity called allah.

ahmedio2017:
You are just saying rubbish, you should rather said PAUL said,,,,, not Jesus OKAY? Jesus Christ PBUH said it is ONLY God that you should serve my God and your God. So your Trinity is rubbing, not recognized. It belongs to Paul.

Ode, Jesus said he's the son of God.

Jesus was an African, not an Arab man.

Jesus didn't worship a stone idol deity called allah.

ahmedio2017:
A whole prophets are useless Abraham, ismheal, why ? You lack manner and respect, Paul didn't teach you guys morality at all .what a waste

What nonsensical prophets? You dey craze?

According to who? One useless pedophilic terrorist Arab man worshipping a quraysh stone idol deity called allah?

I repeat, Jesus said he's the begotten child of God!

Secondly, Jesus was an African Jew, not an Arab man!

Thirdly, Jesus worshipped no black stone idol deity called allah.

Fourthly, Jacob was black, as well as his
children who had to stay in Egypt to beget more Black generations because the first man on earth was a black man!

ahmedio2017:
1. Jesus affirm that there is only one God, that's what the sahada connote

2. No, the message came to the prophet Muhammad not the other prophets that had left, they all have different purpose with the same mission, so if anyone should accept Islam you must affirm there is only one God and Muhammad is a prophet of God. Mind you Jesus and all other prophets recognize only one God and not trinity.

3. First as how? Muhammad s.a.w is the last prophet and he is the one God use to perfect his religion for all mankind.

4. No Muslims can refer to God as father

In the bible there are numerous verses where Jesus Christ PBUH refer to God as God and not father, Bible is full of many mistakes, contradictions, and errors is something that you know, so we Muslims will hold on to where Jesus Christ PBUH refer to God as God and not father.....


Now I have answer your question, it is now your turn


1. If Jesus Christ PBUH is not a Muslim then tell us the name of his religion

2. Did Jesus Christ PBUH believe in oneness of God or Trinity?

3. How does Jesus Christ PBUH worship his God.

4. Is there any correlation between how Jesus Christ PBUH worshiped his God and how Christians Paul's followers are worshiping their god Paul

Ode, Jesus said he's the begotten child of God!

Jesus didn't worship any black stone idol deity called Allah at kabba.

Jesus was an African Jew, not an Arab man.

First man was a black man thus why Abraham's children had to be Africans to fulfill the promise while fitting into the African continent. Without that, Abraham was useless! That was why Abraham was asked to come to black country. That was why Jacob was black. That was why Jacob and his black children had to go to Black Egypt land to mingle with other blacks to beget more bigger Black generations. It was the Black generations that was needed to fit into Canan which was an African land. Coupled with the fact that the first man on earth was a black man📍, so it had to be a black man.

Just imagine. Buhari really looted this country!

ahmedio2017:
You are the one insane here, is Israel Africa today? That one is by the way.

All I know is that Jesus Christ PBUH is a MUSLIM, and Christianity is from Paul.

So stop saying rubbish, that same Israel u guys are defending split on you guys. Shameless sect of use.less people.

You're the one useless!


Abraham's children had to be Africans to fit into African continent. Without that, Abraham was useless! That was why Abraham was asked to come to black country. That was why Jacob was black. That was why Jacob and his black children had to go to Black Egypt land to mingle with other blacks to become bigger Black generations. It was the Black generations that was needed to fit into Canan which was African land. Coupled with the fact that the first man on earth was a black man📍, so it had to be a black man, aside the fact that Canan was an African land.

Not useless Ishmael who went to mingle with Iraq who should have simply stayed with his Iraq rather than disturb African countries with gibberish while murdering & killing Africans like the useless Arab did to the northern Africans.

Bunch of useless people!