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Christianity Etc › Re: Is Sin Innate In Us? by Dtruthspeaker: 3:25pm On Mar 21
Roycemadeit:
Man created God. God didn't create nature

You don't know this one too!

If we keep explaining the present without interrogating its foundations, then we’re not thinking, we’re just maintaining. And a world that is constantly maintained without being reimagined will always reproduce the same problems.
Though, this is Off Point, but it must be stated that as a pot cannot create the potter so also did man ever create He Who man, all over the world calls, God in their natural languages.

But, the gods man creates are what are called idols.

But, as as said earlier you have deviated from the Point.

And I have answered your queries and you have no query remaining as i said people already knew the answers to these questions hence these things are settled absolute Truths and there is nothing to interrogate.
Christianity Etc › Re: Is There Any Biblical Account Of Angels Taking Female Form? by Dtruthspeaker: 3:17pm On Mar 21
lordm:
It's all sounding like made up stories
So would you be after a thousand years. Even your great, great, great great, great great, great grandchildren won't think you ever existed so you would sound like a story to them.
Christianity Etc › Re: Are You Guilty Of Cohabitation? I Am Sent To Deliver You by Dtruthspeaker: 6:58pm On Mar 20
RhemaJet7:
Matthew 11:12

And from the days of John the Baptist until now the kingdom of heaven suffereth violence, and the violent take it by force.

Who is a liar between you and I?

Saying cohabitation is a sin, is what makes me a liar?

I love the way you are washing your dirty linen in public, advocating for sexual immorality and you called yourself "DtruthSpeaker"

It shows whom you are, what you are doing.

You should be ashamed of yourself man
Saying cohabitation is a sin when you know that it is not especially as you yourself defined what cohabitation is, is what has made you a liar.

And rather than correct yourself you chose to make it worse by multiplying your sin of lying.

As i said, it is between yourself, this thread and God now for Revelations 21:8 has already told you what happens to liars.

8 ... and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone
Christianity Etc › Re: Tctrills: On The Repugnant Aspects Of Christian Doctrine by Dtruthspeaker: 6:52pm On Mar 20
DeepSight:
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This is incoherent and I must upbraid you for writing all too often in a most scattered, unstructured and incomprehensible manner which seems like the musings of a child or child animation.

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Address this to Maxindhouse
There you go lying again for there is no adult who cannot appreciate my words for common when lastma catch you, you are looking for anyone to save you, how much more when you know you shall be sentenced to death. Anyway, it has been said that "people kuu for lack of understanding"
Christianity Etc › Re: Jehovah Witness Now Allow Blood Transfusion But Only Your Own Blood. See How by Dtruthspeaker: 5:29pm On Mar 20
Lovelink1991:
How come they were able to be witness of jehovah
If your jehovah means God, then who in the earth is not a witness of God? Atheists, pagans, boko haramist are all witnesses of God
Christianity Etc › Re: Are You Guilty Of Cohabitation? I Am Sent To Deliver You by Dtruthspeaker: 5:25pm On Mar 20
RhemaJet7:
The last time I checked, by the help of God, I have defeated your master Satan several times, mocked him several times.

Same way I'm mocking him now...

Satan, foolish on earth.

Revelation 12: 11

And they overcame him by the blood of the lamb and by the word of their testimony

The gates of hell shall never prevail against the church.

False Preacher

Cohabitation is, and will always be, a sin
Revelations 21:8 has already told you what happens to liars.

8 ... and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone

Keep on lying for even your definition of cohabitation has proven that you are a liar
Christianity Etc › Re: Tctrills: On The Repugnant Aspects Of Christian Doctrine by Dtruthspeaker: 5:23pm On Mar 20
DeepSight:
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Haba. That you will only be forgiven when one innocent man is murdered in a gruesome torturous manner and you buy into it? Think about it for heavens sake, stop and think! What sort of antediluvian caveman ritualistic teaching is that? ? ? ?
If you think about it, you would see that you are not thinking well for first when you are found guilty and condemnd, your problem is who will save you and you really do not care how you are saved.

And secondly, it is not a fellow death row inmate or wanted person like yorself who can save you as we say "you wey never save yourself na im you won save another person? Abeg save yourself first ".

So in all these you are the ones one who looses if no salvation is given like a jws refusing life saving blood transfusion.
Christianity Etc › Re: Are You Guilty Of Cohabitation? I Am Sent To Deliver You by Dtruthspeaker: 5:07pm On Mar 20
RhemaJet7:
Romans 1:16 (KJV)

For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek.

I repeat cohabitation is, and will always be a sin

Satan has a strategy; coercion, coercing people to accept false doctrine BY FORCE, that is exactly what you're doing, but the truth is, I CAN NEVER FALL FOR THAT TRAP, I AM FAR MORE EXPERIENCED. Satan is under my feet. Ephesians 2: 6.

I REFUSE TO BOW TO BAAL
You are already a shamed and have fallen by lying that cohabitation is a sin when the bible never not say so. So, its between you and God now and Revelations 21:8 has already told you what happens to liars.

8 ... and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone.

So continue behaving like boko haram
Christianity Etc › Re: Just Know That You Are A Pagan If You Still Practice Traditions Like These by Dtruthspeaker(op): 1:54pm On Mar 20
Wow! See another pagan practice. Raping festiva. l have never even heard of this one.

https://www.nairaland.com/8638947/raping-festival-youths-strip-rape#138831997
Crime › Re: Raping Festival In Ozoro, Delta State (Video) by Dtruthspeaker: 1:51pm On Mar 20
Wow see paganism. That is why God wiped out humanity
Christianity Etc › Re: Are You Guilty Of Cohabitation? I Am Sent To Deliver You by Dtruthspeaker: 1:43pm On Mar 20
RhemaJet7:
The bible says, "By their fruits you shall know them"

You only know about God, BUT YOU DON'T KNOW GOD.

That means, you're only religious, quoting scriptures, speaking big big grammar, BUT YOU'RE NOT GODLY.

NOTHING IS HOLY ABOUT YOU.

Very obvious.

You called yourself, "DtruthSpeaker", which truth are you speaking? Advocating for cohabitation / premarital SEX.
And you keep coming back, teaching it's OK, leading people astray.

Where are you from?

Shame on you!

Colossians 2:15

And having spoiled principalities and powers, he made a shew of them openly, triumphing over them in it.
Yes, your fruit shows the tree and the fact that you had to lie to make your point proves it.

And what i advocated for is what the Bible clearly and indisputably expressed which is do not commit fornications, adultery or any immorality.

No where did the bible say you cannot live in the same place with the opposite gender for people who live in block of flats, shared apartments, hotels etc are also cohabiting and they may not even talking to each other, and therefore, they do not fornicate.

But yet you confidently lied saying that the Bible said they are sinning when it did not.

So, it is clear that you are not representing God but he who loves lies.

Revelations 21:8 has already told you what happens to liars.

8 ... and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone:
NYSC › Re: Ogun Corper, Victoria Ariyo, Dies After Abortion; NYSC LGI Arrested by Dtruthspeaker: 10:20am On Mar 20
See how fornicay don put man for trouble and the woman on the way to H. Fire
Romance › Re: I Will Never Ever Marry You! by Dtruthspeaker: 10:12am On Mar 20
All of you wey no dey call am "her and she" unaself dey kcol
Christianity Etc › Re: Are You Guilty Of Cohabitation? I Am Sent To Deliver You by Dtruthspeaker: 10:08am On Mar 20
RhemaJet7:
Stop washing your dirty linen in public.

Amend your ways before it's too late
It is you who exposed your dirty linen which I told you to go and wash up but you chose to continue advertising it.
Romance › Re: Learn From My Father's Mistake by Dtruthspeaker: 9:45am On Mar 20
OgaSeun:
Lol... You didn't know the mind of things your papa use your mama eyes see during their younger years...
Now he is getting the payback...
Be good with a woman from the onset...
I mean be brutally honest..
And she will be good to you..
But if you were maltreating during your younger years and now because age is no longer in your side you started forming Mr nice guy...
She go use your eyes see shege
Stop talking rubbish. Was he not there to see if popsi was bad to her?
Christianity Etc › Re: Are You Guilty Of Cohabitation? I Am Sent To Deliver You by Dtruthspeaker: 9:37am On Mar 20
RhemaJet7:
"The kingdom of God is not in words, but in power" (1 Corinthians 4:20)

Thank God for the anointing.

I can't be deceived by your false teachings.

I glory in Holy Spirit, the best Teacher ever!

Cohabitation is, and will always be a sin.

Amend your ways.

The judgment day is fast approaching
Thank God i said it was Written and not my words that liars will never enter the kingdom of God . it was Revelations 21:8 Who Said it

8 ... and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone:

So keep on lying for even you defined cohabitation and it did not say sexual immorality

And by your reasoning, talking to someone is a sin because living with someone is a sin, men, you are lost.
Christianity Etc › Re: Is Sin Innate In Us? by Dtruthspeaker: 9:12am On Mar 20
Roycemadeit:
I find myself unsettled by the way difference is turned into hierarchy by society, that the structure of the body should determine worth, as though biology were a verdict rather than a condition. And then we go on to compare humans to the an in the bush, that only hunts to survive.

When I observe the contrast between man and woman, I do not see a ladder of superiority, but a tension of forms, each carrying its own burden, its own capacity. To say one is stronger and therefore greater feels like a refusal to look deeper, a preference for what is visible over what is endured, no thanks to patriarchal belief systems that enthrone males and has no account for the feminine.

What we often call “natural” is already an interpretation. We look at function and impose meaning on it. Strength becomes dominance, penetration becomes power, reception becomes submission. Yet these are not truths given by nature; they are conclusions drawn by us. Nature presents differences, but it does not explain them. It is we who construct the story, and in doing so, we often reveal more of our fears and desires than any universal order, as we see cultures that have Goddesses.

The interpretations, we learned has built systems that bind us. We rank one another based on what none of us chose; our bodies, our form, our place at birth. In doing so, we quietly abandon the responsibility of seeing each other as fully human. A logical person, who seeks for better should question this indoctrination, If there is anything worth holding onto, it is the idea that difference does not diminish, and that no structure built on it should decide the value of a life.
The 2 popular Natashas have already shown you that the muscles men carry isn't the only dominating power.

Strength is dominance and power is power that is the way God and Nature has set it to be.
Christianity Etc › Re: Is Sin Innate In Us? by Dtruthspeaker: 9:06am On Mar 20
Roycemadeit:
We have been raised to believe that one gender is meant to dominate the other, but that idea was shaped by patriarchal culture, not nature.

Men and women are designed to complement each other, not compete for power. Even in our biology, there is a natural correspondence, the male as injector and the female as receiver, fitting together with purpose rather than conflict.

No human thrives in isolation, so the idea of superiority defeats the purpose of being human in the first place. Different cultures have shown that there is no single way to structure society. Some are matriarchal and emphasize balance, while others create systems where both masculine and feminine roles are valued equally.

Our problem is that we have stopped questioning systems and started treating them as absolute truth, and that has led us down a path of dysfunction.
As children we were only told and shown however, most of us did not believe it nor accept it and we all grew respecting our mothers and sisters, until we saw first hand the very bad and wrong things they did/do, then we threw out the respect we gave to them.

And this patriarchical thing stands because it is the main who solely did the hard and difficult work to create and establish a house. And then like a tenant or guest in a hotel, the woman just comes in to enjoy what a man has already suffered to create.

How can she then have the same rights with him? How can they be equal?

He who pays the piper dictates the tune

If women want equality they should do as men do. They should work and build/buy their own husbands. And with that they can even marry men and pay groom price and be the ones to give their children their names and matriarchly can start. Of which it is already going on already as shown in how the 2 Natasha married the men they wanted to marry and clearly in control of things
So, the balance you are looking for is here already and we already know the answers to the questions hence these things are settled absolute Truths.
Christianity Etc › Re: Is Sin Innate In Us? by Dtruthspeaker: 8:36am On Mar 20
Umbrateeth04:
mehn the world is not balanced..patriarchy has ruined everything

The notion of patriarchy is that the whole world, system,science,technology ,art, education cultures,and laws were built, created and invented by men and so therefore women should be at the receiving end of prejudice.

But one could deduce that nature was infact precise and straightforward on the creation story to the point I was left speechless to always follow the stereotypical bandwagon of men being the superior beings as they were created far more sophisticated and stronger than women due to their bone mass, body structures and strength..and here comes the woman weak, feeble, soft and fragile..one was created to look like gods while the other was created for just the mere pleasure and satisfaction of the other...pitiable sod undecided

I have always had your kind of eccentric view on life to the extent I began to question life, nature and its existence...we will rub heads together to unravel what lies within nature...as I don't really conform to the conventional established norms laid down by patriarchy and their prejudice against women...follow me as we delve into this haunting journey of unravelling mysteries

I have had some sexist men ask me this question that left me in suspense for quite a while now..It would sound so hilarious and demeaning at the same time...but I would be hoping you find an answer to this question

1a.if equality really exist and everything happens to exist in a delicate balance why are men created more stronger than females?
1b.why are women created with holes in between their legs and men created with poles in between their legs?


2a if nature wanted equaity dont you think nature in its essence would have created women the same strength as men?
2b.why should there be penetration during copulation?..is their no other way for reproduction that doesn't require sex?...as this act of top and bottom signifier will always ridicule the existence of women...as women are the bottom..and men the top...the receiver of dick is the bottom and while the tops are the penetrators..Sexist men have always used sex to dehumanise women..making them being an object of sexualization and caricature...we are in an era were superiority is determined by what sits in between your legs...sighs

One will even question God...I feel like humanity can't come out of this prejudice...it will take a new world order for everything to fall into the right proportion and balance..it sealed and unfathomable.... at some point I am beginning to think that the devil(the imperfect god) created humanity for his own entertainment with the devil having his favourites..the gnostic view is quite glaring...imperfect creation...which will definitely come to an apocalypse..its inevitable..the suffering...cruelty of animals,,, superiority will always exist in an imperfect world..even in the animal kingdom some animals are more stronger and exert dominance than the other the lion was created by the devil to devour the antelope..can you see the favouritism and prejudice in the lion and antelope analogy?..one is created to devour the other ...while the other is created to endure and escape with less strength.. with this analogy one can Extrapolate that life itself is unfair both to women and the antelope...
i am forced to believe in the ideology of those who seek for anti-natalism and a total human extinction

So what's your thoughts on my own perspectives?... and secondly i would love you do justice to the questions I highlighted above...I am looking forward to your feedback
We all met the world imbalanced however we all see what causes imbalance. And that is when someone does a wrong.

Siblings, classmates and your age mates both male and female were all your equals hence that word we say "na your mate". Until one of you did a wrong thing eg when your friend became a thief, all of you casted him aside (except those who are thieves like him) and no one respected him anymore.

Same thing when you found out that your classmate in secondary school was into olosho.

So, women are lesser than men is because they became oloshos. Which is why a virgin girl/woman is always equal to a boy/man which is why we all say to men unqualified to have her "you no worth her'.

So like the thief and rapist when a woman becomes an olosho she will become lower than a man. That is what nature has shown
Christianity Etc › Re: Are You Guilty Of Cohabitation? I Am Sent To Deliver You by Dtruthspeaker: 8:10am On Mar 20
RhemaJet7:
Your profile name "DtruthSpeaker", is misleading, deceptive, there is nothing true about the "truth" on this subject.

You are teaching FALSE DOCTRINE, leading people astray.

IT IS DESTRUCTIVE.

Cohabitation is a sin.

Common sense says so,

The bible says so: 1 Corinthians 6: 18,

Holy Spirit says so.

Only your own teaching says otherwise

I pity people that are following you.

Things of the Spirit are discerned by those that are filled by the Spirit.

Matthew 24:24

For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.

Truly, this is the END TIME
In addition to the fact that sexual immorality does not mean cohabitation which means that you are telling Lies, It is apparent your head is cloudy else you would have remembered that most people already do sexual immorality (fornication/adultery) even without cohabiting.

And like cohabitation, before sexual immorality starts, taking to another person whether opposite sex or same sex nust take place Therefore by your reasoning, talking to someone is a sin. See how your oaffin liess show you are the people who make atheists say that Christians are unintelligent?

It is Written a Liar will never enter the new heaven and earth.
Christianity Etc › Re: Are You Guilty Of Cohabitation? I Am Sent To Deliver You by Dtruthspeaker: 8:07pm On Mar 19
RhemaJet7:
Everything about the truth is true.

I repeat, cohabitation is a sin.

If you love and value your woman, you will pay her Bride Price (marry her) before you will live with her or sleep with her.

Similarly, if you love God, you will keep all His commandments.

God's Commandment:

1 Corinthians 6: 18

Flee from sexual immorality.. All other sins a person commits are outside the body, but whoever sins sexually, sins against their own body".

Your body, according to the scripture, is a temple of God, you're not supposed to defile it, keep it holy
As I said the bible calls you to speak the Truth and you are not doing so for the bible never said cohabitation is a sin but have resorted to commit the fallacy of appeal to extremes thereby distorting and perverting the Truth.

Which means that you are lyin

"The fallacy of extreme view, or "appeal to extremes," involves distorting a reasonable, moderate position by pushing it to an absurd or radical edge to make it easier to attack. It misrepresents the original argument—similar to a straw man—by claiming that if a moderate action is taken, it will inevitably lead to an extreme consequence"

So stop it.

Cohabitation is not the sin but fornication. And if cohabitation is a sin, so also talking to the opposite sex is a sin since talk leads goes before fornication as cohabitation goes before fornication.
Romance › Re: The Harsh Reality About Women, Comfort, And “selective Morality” by Dtruthspeaker: 7:45pm On Mar 19
aswani:
Kọbọ dey come twist wetin una dey tok, I surprise say she never reach already sef.

Una get mind wan tok say women nor perfect àbi, not on kobo's watch at all.
Dem don nonman Kobo finish
Christianity Etc › Re: Is Sin Innate In Us? by Dtruthspeaker: 5:50pm On Mar 18
Roycemadeit:
My Right!

We do not share the same worldview. Mine is reasoned and deliberate.

Man is not defined solely by profession, wealth, or social ranking. A fisherman is no less worthy of respect, of marriage, or of dignity than a pilot or CEO. Reducing human worth to material or functional achievement reflects not reality but the corrosive influence of poverty, fear, and social boxes. Love, humanity, and dignity cannot thrive in such a framework, no matter how many comparisons or examples you raise.

You treat people as lesser because of what they do or how society labels them, but that perspective makes the world more toxic.

Refusing to recognize the humanity in an Olosho, a thief, or anyone deemed dishonorable creates cycles of dehumanization. People denied respect and recognition will inevitably find ways to reclaim what was taken from them, often at the expense of the society that constrained them. Ignoring this reality demonstrates your fundamental misunderstanding of better human systems and the consequences of inherited prejudice.

Don't put me in the same box as yourself. I can marry an Olosho and my daughter could marry a fisherman.
Your reasons are basically wishful. The fact that you have not yet dated and married has already ridiculed all you say.

And this thread https://www.nairaland.com/8636767/went-clubbing-doing-drugs-becoming shows that you are dreaming as you have not gone there to express that you would marry her, even though you claim you can marry an olosho.

So, this is a case of you talking things even you yourself do not do hence why you are already wrong
Christianity Etc › Re: Are You Guilty Of Cohabitation? I Am Sent To Deliver You by Dtruthspeaker: 5:37pm On Mar 18
RhemaJet7:
So, does premarital SEX / cohabitation glorify God?...
Premarital sex aka fornication is not cohabitation even you defined what cohabitation is by your definition if cohabitation is a sin then all married people are guilty.

So, you don't need to be unreasonably extrim to advocate for holy living. Even the Bible called you to give a just and balanced weight
Christianity Etc › Re: I Went From Clubbing, Doing Drugs, To Becoming Born Again – Lady Shares (Video) by Dtruthspeaker: 5:29pm On Mar 18
Gerrard59:
She no do pass Saul who later became Paul, who is highly revered in the Bible.
Paul thought he was working for God. Dis one know say she bin dey do wetin God no like. So dem no be the same
Christianity Etc › Re: I Went From Clubbing, Doing Drugs, To Becoming Born Again – Lady Shares (Video) by Dtruthspeaker:
keemsleek:
There rejoice in heaven over a repentant sinner. God will handle that and will give her a deserving hubby. For her to be bold to come out and use her past has a means of evangelism thatln there's full repentance in her soul. Who is better? A lost soul that repents ir a lost soul who keeps wandering around and never repents?
Not if it was her plan to repent after all she has gotten all that she wanted and then she is now repenting as she had planned.
Christianity Etc › Re: Is Sin Innate In Us? by Dtruthspeaker: 4:45pm On Mar 18
Roycemadeit:
Always talking about “natural truth” like it dropped from the sky and everyone just knows it grin. All you’ve done is repeat what you’ve been led to believe and call it nature.

The fact that you put things inside boxes does not make those boxes fixed or meaningful in any absolute sense. Reality is more complex than painting everything white and black.

Then you jump from categories to conclusions, saying some people cannot be respected because of what they are or have done... Accountability is not the same as stripping someone of their humanity. The moment you decide who deserves dignity and who does not, you are no longer talking about justice, you are just defending a hierarchy that makes you comfortable. grin

And on authority, you’re still confusing role with worth.

Let me spell it out, not for you, since you seem more interested in reacting than understanding, but for anyone actually paying attention. Authority exists for function, not because one person is a superior human being. It is tied to responsibility and competence, not inherent value.
A pilot leads a flight because of skill and responsibility, not because he is more human than the passengers. That distinction is simple, yet you keep missing it. Authority organizes action; it does not elevate one person above another in dignity.
You are the one making me repeat all i have said since you keep veering off point running and raising more off points.

Definitely, if you say "natural dropped from the sky" then you are right for that is the idiomatic expression that Natural is like rain and that Natural came to meet us or we came to meet it

And you have proven it that even today you have still refused to go and to give your dignity to an olosho or rapist or thief just like the rest of the world despite all you propose.

And on boxes, it is clear that everything is in a box. You are in the box of man, which is why we will find you in the boxes talking about getting a job and acquiring a house, erectile function and prostrate are things. No one will see you in cervical cancer and menstruation and womanstop (menopause) boxes. So you are decivjng yorsef when you think you are not in a box.

And on submission, authority and worth, it is you who does not appreciate that authority and worth go together. And that doing what everyone cannot do increases your worth and makes you superior to others. That is why a pilot is paid more than the driver of ABC transport, even when both of them are technically drivers moving goods and passengers with vehicles. Technically, every human can drive a car but not every human can drive a plane. So the difference is clear.

And that is why a pilot is more respected than and more dignified than the ordinary fisherman in his canoe in river state and even you, would readily and happily welcome with open arms the pilot to marry your daughter over the canoeing fisherman.

So, you are still wrong and making an unreasonable proposition
Christianity Etc › Re: Are You Guilty Of Cohabitation? I Am Sent To Deliver You by Dtruthspeaker: 4:06pm On Mar 18
Wealthyonos:
Go and rest Abeg. God will uplift me and my woman
He is right bro.

If you want to walk the God Way, even though you have a girlfriend or fiancee, you are not allowed to defile yourselves with fornication.

And this is where you see that many men lost the only woman who ever truly loved them because of fornication as after that day she became like Ammon to Tamar and they never had a better relationship after that
Christianity Etc › Re: Are You Guilty Of Cohabitation? I Am Sent To Deliver You by Dtruthspeaker: 4:01pm On Mar 18
RhemaJet7:
Cohabitation is when you're living with someone you're not married to, especially when you're sleeping with each other.
Even if you're not sleeping with each other, to prove Holiness and avoid possible temptation, you're not supposed to be living with someone you're not married to.
Generally, having premarital SEX is a sin.

There is a saying, "If he loves and values you, he will marry you first before living with you".

This practice is common among the youth, among the undergraduates, even among the elderly people who are trying to avoid the cost of getting married in the right way.

Cohabitation is a sin, a taboo before God...
You are Wrong! Cohabitation is not the sin but fornication is.

Couples wishing to marry need to cohabit to know if they have it right.

Adam male was cohabiting with female Adam before Satan made female Adam to fornicate with him and then after that she now made male Adam fornicate with her.

So, it is not cohabitation that is the sin but fornication which as you see that Satan has made and is making people fornicate even without cohabiting where before in the days of old it was only when the couples were getting married that they fornicated.

So, what ye ought to teach is that people should flee from fornication aka sex before marriage.

If a virgin couple have not had sex everyone can see it therefore they are "holy".
Christianity Etc › Re: Is Sin Innate In Us? by Dtruthspeaker: 2:05pm On Mar 17
Roycemadeit:
Your view comes from long-held rules and dogma, based on the idea that certain teachings decide human worth and behavior. This way of thinking turns complex human life into simple boxes and ignores choice, context, and responsibility. By assuming authority, morality, or value comes from fixed standards, you mix up social roles with real human dignity.

First, your argument confuses social function with human worth. A pilot may command a crew during a flight, just as a manager directs employees in a company. That authority exists because of responsibility and expertise, not because the pilot or manager is a superior human being.

Second, the claim that certain people should not be treated like human beings simply because they engage in activities you consider dishonorable collapses under scrutiny. If dishonor strips someone of their humanity, then the same judgment must be applied consistently. Yet, we have society that condemns the woman who sells intimacy while tolerating the men who buys it.

Third, reducing a person entirely to one label ignores the complexity of human life. No individual can be defined solely by a single action or profession.

Fourth, using “nature” to justify social exclusion misunderstands what nature actually is. Nature does not assign moral rankings to human beings. Those rankings are cultural inventions, shaped by power, fear, and tradition, it has nothing to do with natural.

Fifth, the idea that balance comes from domination misunderstands how stable societies actually function Domination produces obedience, but never harmony. Stability emerges when authority is tied to responsibility and when humanism remains universal rather than conditional.
You are still talking off point in trying to find where you suppose my view comes from as if your own view is not coming from somewhere also thereby missing the issue of the discussion not being about where our views come from but about the Truth that is seen naturally. which you yourself have seen and are partaking in.

And the fact is that we come in boxes: a man must think like a man and a woman must think like a woman. Do you not see all the the threads here are boxes? Car section box, politics section box, Romance section box etc.

So, like it or not this life is in boxes and things are fixed exactly how there is no way an olosho will be respected. Even you with all your claim for equality has not gone to give dignity to an olosho or rapist or a thief. And it is not man who set morality: no human went about telling people not to respect the olosho or the rapist or the thief,

And on the pilot superiority, the bottomline is that you see that your "antisubmission" statement was not correct as there is something called "authority" and that makes a person superior to his fellow man. And as companies and airlines have shown there is harmony and stability.

So, you are just trying to raise a tsunami in a plate.
Christianity Etc › Re: Is Sin Innate In Us? by Dtruthspeaker: 2:03pm On Mar 16
Roycemadeit:
As usual, you are missing the point again grin. The question is not whether I would marry an olosho. The question is whether an olosho deserves to be treated as less of a human being. Those are two very different matters. A person’s circumstance does not erase their humanity. If you were the one in that position, would you enjoy being treated as something beneath dignity?

People are quick to condemn the fruit while refusing to examine the roots. Nobody wakes up one morning and simply decides to become an olosho without a chain of circumstances leading there. Poverty, coercion, desperation, and lack of opportunity all play their roles. Yet society prefers the easier task of pointing fingers at the individual rather than confronting the conditions that produced the outcome.

As for your argument about separation from “dishonourable people,” that reasoning is convenient but shallow. History shows that the same society that condemns the olosho is often the same society that creates the conditions that produce her. If we truly cared about honour, we would examine the system before condemning the individual.

And regarding your question about submission, balance does not come from blind submission to a master. Balance comes from understanding roles, responsibilities, and mutual dignity.

P.S. A system built entirely on domination will always produce resentment and imbalance.
I got the point.

Your dodging and refusal to even be seen associated with an olosho already proves that even you know that it is nature that has set it that they do not deserve to be treated like human beings.

And the fact that it is only at night and in dark and secret places that you meet with her is proof that even you cannot treat her like the people you normally relate with everyday.

And it is the same thing with crooked politicians, rapists, thieves and people who have done things that bring dishonour.

And it is a shift of post for you to talk about the causes of her oloshoing for your topic was clearly "why women are treated inferiorly"

Of which it has been stated that poorverty is not an acceptable reason to do the dishonourable whether oloshoing or stealing, so your advocacy does not stand.

And on submission, see it, you moved post from submission to "blind submission" whereas you implied that submission is bad because it causes imbalance.

So, you see, you are swallowing up and changing your own words now that you see that you are wrong.

It is balance that a pilot Captain dominates over the stewardess and that the director is dominant to the clerk.

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