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geoworldedu:
My wife didn't have sex with a landlord, she had it with me. So how is that a sin?

But now people having sex with themselves on onlyfans is a sin? How? These people are not hiding their sex. That makes it even not a sin, unlike you straffing your au*nt in secret

Having with you is not the problem but when she has it with her boss, now you'll know its a sin

Whom God is punis..., He first makes mar....

Onucs:
Led who to sin kwanu. Do you know that 70% of adults consume porn?

Dude's found a way to make money off people's sin according to you

Therefore he dipped his hands into sin to make money like a love-vendor

rattlesnake:
May God ave mercy on him
Jesus is the way

Too late for God to have mercy. There is no repentance in the grave

geoworldedu:
So having sex is a sin
Be deceiving yourself you hear

Then why do you complain when your wife had sex with your landlord?

Lucifyre:
Hell exists only in the minds of the dim witted to cage it, not in objective reality. As seen on this thread, like legion they're many.

Have cancer first, let us see whether you won't be the one preaching about hel

MissOpe:
Sin js a human construct...

Evil is what's bad....

As if ivu is different from sin

Umbrateeth04:
I am not viewing it with extreme bias and prejudice...it is what it is....your religion upholds great misogyny

How long have you being on this forum Christian thread for you to concoct this false conclusion in your distorted mindset?

You are not making any sense

You are extremely bias and the mere fact that you are repeating your bias proves it. For i have already pointed out that everyone who does a wrong eg stealing, becomes lower than his mates and no one respects him or her, but you refuse to hear in clear proof of bias and prejudice

And funny, i said the same thing to your brother Roy and look at it he listened, thought about it, argued a little and now has fallen silent but not you.

Those who are prejudiced cannot be reasoned out of their ideas because it was not reason that created their Bias in the first place," — jimdo

Umbrateeth04:
yes it does!

Timothy 2:12: “I [Paul] do not permit a woman to teach or to exercise authority over a man; rather, she is to remain quiet”. This verse is often interpreted as restricting women's roles in church leadership and public life.
Ephesians 5:22–24: “Wives, submit to your own husbands, as to the Lord. For the husband is the head of the wife even as Christ is the head of the church”. Critics argue this passage promotes a power imbalance, portraying women as the property of their husbands who must submit without question.
Leviticus 15:19-20: "And if a woman have an issue, and her issue in her flesh be blood, she shall be put apart seven days: and whosoever toucheth her shall be unclean until the evening. And every thing that she lieth upon in her separation shall be unclean: every thing also that she sitteth upon shall be unclean". This and similar passages from Leviticus are cited as treating menstruation as inherently "unclean," a perspective which has historically contributed to social taboos and marginalization of women.
Deuteronomy 22:28–29: This passage describes the legal outcome if a man rapes an unengaged virgin: he must pay her father fifty shekels of silver and marry her, never being allowed to divorce her. Critics point out that this law treats the woman as her father's property that was damaged, with no mention of the victim's consent or choice in the arranged marriage to her rapist.
Numbers 31:17-18: In the context of war against the Midianites, Moses commands the Israelite forces to "Kill every male among the little ones, and every woman who has known a man by lying with him. But all the young women who have not known a man by lying with him, keep alive for yourselves". This is frequently highlighted as a passage that dehumanizes women by treating virgins as spoils of war.
Genesis 3:16: Following Eve's sin in the Garden of Eden, God tells her, "Your desire shall be for your husband, and he shall rule over you." This is interpreted by some as a divine justification for male dominance and female subordination.

you are clearly ignorant of the gospel you spread

I know you would say all these as fuel for your bias. For yes Genesis 3 shows what caused it but you want to pretend like you do not understand why.

Which is what I explained to you at the beginning before the argument moved when i said "Siblings, classmates and your age mates both male and female were all equals like Adam male and female, until one of you did a wrong thing eg when your friend became a thief, all of you casted him aside and no one respected him anymore.
Same thing when you found out that your classmate in secondary school was into runs.

So, women are lesser than men is because they did something that was very very bad like a thief or molester.

Which is what happened to Eve in Genesis 3.
Obviously nairaland is anty Christianity as all the things that I should say get me banned.

Nevertheless, Christianity is not sexist but rather Eve committed sins that cannot be forg.... And like DNA proves that a wife has cheated, all the children the DNA caught must follow her and go. That is what happened to women. And as romance and family section have shown women are bad and cannot be respected. So why would God want to use an unrighteous people like that?

Umbrateeth04:
I am not barking at the wrong tree ..the religion you uphold is the foundation behind prejudice and misogyny...think again

You are for Christianity never teaches anyone to be sexist and prejuducial..

Umbrateeth04:
⁷cut that crap

You forgotten the adage used by your fellow scum men...I type in quote "a padlock which many key can open is disregarded as useless and should subsequebtly be thrown away while a key that opens many padlock is called the masterkey"....you failed to understand that women will be shamed for doing the exact thing men do..to them men and women are not the same...stop trying to defend what is undefendable

You mentioned the 2natashas...hahaha haha boy is trying to use the minority to uphold a vague viewpoint
1.How many matriarch do we have as opposed to patriarch?
2.How many women are given the equity to pursue their dreams like men?
3 How many women are not Stereotyped into pursuing a certain kind of career...even though that career isn't what they want?
4.How many women are told to stop halfway in their dreams as not to threaten the man?
5.how many women are doing the same job with men in an established institution but yet not receiving the same salary?....
6.how many women are allowed to own houses in their fathers properties?
7.how many femicide as opposed to homicide?
8.How many successful women are allowed to pay groom price and have their husband name change to theirs?...in most culture paying groom price is unconventional...according to Roycemadeit...culture does not determine truth it is just guidelines and law laid down by partiachs...doesn't mean cultures are not subject to criticism and changes

You talk about equality as if equality precisely in nigeria exist? Social media and reality are not the same...this your ideology has no head and tail to stand on the prejudice ravaging women..think again and come up with a better comeback

You have called them scum men, sexist men. That means that they are people we should not listen to. And actually as you see in romance and family section, everyone rejects their views and casts them out. So, you are barking at the wrong tree

Umbrateeth04:
sexist men don't share the same world view as yours...to sexist men penetration means dominance and power while reception means submissiveness and weakness..they don't uphold contrast as complimenting one another..they view at as a perfect definition of a master and slave.

how many matriarch do you know as opposed to patriarch?
How many Goddesses do you know as opposed to Gods?

Check every religion around you their God's always embody a male persona
The world ain't balanced..its All about the survival of the fittest...in which the strongest always triumph...while the weak will suffer shame, ridicule, Pains, anguish, agony and death...its a very sad reality

You see a strong successful independent financially stable woman who is blatantly shamed for not having a man tied to her...just one thing small minds falsely deems as flaws and error tragically undermines her success and achievement...pathetic

Don't get it twisted I am with you on this however we cannot overlook the very system which brought about this dysfunctions and Stereotypes.

I don't blame women who wants to stay single and child free all the days of their lives as they have experienced patriarchy and have had an ugly bitter taste of it..they are of the notion that if they are to create a world they are not safe in..then they better not create it at all...[b]do you think those women will be happy birthing their oppressors?

Come to think of it do you think animals don't have feelings?
We have encountered animals that display emotional pains and grief in the slaughter house...take for instance a have witnessed a horse shedding tears about knowing its inevitable fate of being...animals have feelings they can distinguish paun from comfort..you will know this when you are a conc animal lover

That's why in my previous quote I used the analogy of a lion and an antelope?
It is in the nature of a lion to devour an antelope while it is the nature of an antelope not to fight back but to endure and escape hence from this allegory prejudice was born, fed; groomed and raised to lay its ugly head and claws to traumatise, maim and kill those it perceive as weak defenseless and powerless...
Pv
i dont blame men but i blame their creators for making them more powerful and ruthless

For saying "sexist men' you have used a minority unreasonable sect to judge the whole. And that is what has made your post very myopic and very wrongly given and unreasonably biased.

And therefore, by your bias you are no different from the sexist men whom you condemn

DeepSight:
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If forgiveness and atonement were left to man alone, no one will be saved.

Now you see that God is Good that He even gives us a chance to be saved where no man will, via His Veto and Overriding Power.

And that is where His Laws of Atonement come in for God Will Always follow His Laws.

DeepSight:
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Are you saying that an atonement does not work even if one is contrite and does everything possible to make reparations?

Well, I can only agree to that for some really grievous crimes.

Good. This is where I respectfully tell you to keep using your experiences to examine it, so that you won't say it is me who said it. So go check it out and see

DeepSight:
But that will be before man and not before God.

If man that you see and whom you offended did not find it just to forgive you, how do you think that God, would forgive you?

But please, go check it out.

DeepSight:
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What can restore your name better than an open apology?

There is something wrong with you.
Good bye.

See it
You just claimed to have apologized yet it did not work.

So, who will cleanse your sin?

SpencerForbes:
Omo, I’m giving you back-to-back missiles and you can’t even defend one! 😂 See how you’re just shaking. First time I’m seeing you this defenseless....

Like your breain is touching. 😁😁😁.

See desperation! 🤣🤣🤣

We were playing football in National stadium Uyo and the match ended when you started talking Off Point. And since then you have been playing with yourself in another stadium and talking Off Point!!!

Yet from that stadium you claiming that you are shooting missiles? 🤣🤣🤣
You need to go for formatting you have knocked already and you have moved from making Off Point arguments to not making sense. 😁😁😁😁😁

Maybe when you are healed you can come back and make valid arguments instead of this desperate Off Point cry. 😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁

DeepSight:
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This is rubbish. I will not bother with it.

No problem
You have the right to run away from bitter Truth. But the Truth always catches up and swallows you

DeepSight:
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I never suggested saying sorry is enough. I listed steps.

And did those steps cover and purge you of the kind of sins i listed especially when the person offended never revenged?

No Way.

And this is where if you carried out your steps 3 and 4, you just punisd yourself as it does not count exactly how no one would accept a kidnapper punishing himself for kidnapping.

So, yes, some sins are remediable and atoneable but there are many you can never remember nor atone for and that is where Judgement going to get you

DeepSight:
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I have searched, and I tender my apologies. It was not you. Someone else has previously argued to me citing Hebrews 11:19, arguing that Abraham’s act wasn't "murderous" because he had "accounted that God was able to raise him up, even from the dead...

It is 50/50.

It is murder only in the eyes of men as they are not privy to the communication between God and Abraham.

And it is not murder because it was an act Commanded by God (Force Majeure). And here is where you see that God is our Ruler and that even if Abraham had carried it out, no one would be able to accuse and prosecute him just like the case of Phinehas or stoning a person to death in execution of God's judgement.

DeepSight:
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How do we all kill many times?

Atonement for me is by -

1. Feeling genuine contrition
2. Apologizing and seeking forgiveness
3. Making reparations as much as possible
4. Suffering any pain or loss which symbolically signifies acceptance of punishment

I believe you are pretending here for there is no person who did not later real eyes and that they have kieed, a certain person. And the person told them "you have have killed me".

This is spiritual murder and everyone is guilty of it and the person who goes ahead to physically mudar a person is guilty twice for he had kieed both spiritually and physically.

And if you are still pretending not to know this, then it is clear that you are looking forward to the judgement for did your genuine contrition of saying "I'm sorry, please forgive me" wipe that sin you caused on that day?

No!

Some of the people still went ahead and exerted vengeance and it was after their vengeance that you rested.

That clearly told you that saying "I'm sorry forgive me" is not sufficient atonement and cannot atone for certain sins eg betrayal, adultery, cheating, spiritual killing etc

SpencerForbes:
Wait o... 😳 If he didn't recognize her, it means she transformed, mutated, or shapeshifted. Abi she use 7 layers of makeup? Clear things for us.

Oga, nobody understands what you are yarning. Go back and read those threads you posted. Once a woman decides to be "dominant," she hardly ever goes back to being submissive. It's one way traffic.

Are you trying to tell us Adam suddenly became a "simp" or submissive just so she could lead? Two captains cannot stay in one ship. If that was the case, they would have taught their daughters to be alphas, but throughout the Old Testament, the man remained the head. Period.

I don't want to drag you down this rabbit hole you're digging, otherwise you’ll be too ashamed to comment on this forum again. Let’s just end it here before I scatter your theories one by one. All the questions I’ve asked, you can’t even provide an adequate answer. You’re just seeking for leverage to hide your fallacies. I’m done engaging in fables and fairytales.
🚶‍♂️

See how you are running Off Point changing from post to post and from field to field in your desperate bid to find something to hold on to but catching only air. As I said, you have nothing valid to say, just rest for this is how you are going to running all over the place forever for "There is no valid argument against the Truth" so just give up and rest

DeepSight:
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And I agree with atonement.
I only say it doesn't have to involve killing someone.

If you agree with atonement then how would you recommend that a person atone for your many sins of murder? And that is i hope you know that we all kill several times even before that person dies hence why it is said "a coward dies many times" or where people shout "i don die oo" yet they live.

True

But Satan is and shall accuse you.

Yourself will accuse you

Your fellow man is and shall accuse you.

Animals, birds, insects, lizards, Bayelsa, Ondo and Lagos people wey kphai that tortoise, whale, dolphin, shark, those ones too will accuse them.

The earth too will accuse you.

So, there are many plaintiffs/complaints who have and shall lay charges accusing you.

Make God no kon add Hin own.

DeepSight:
+While I thank you for this, I must juxtapose what you have written against the justice of God. God, remember, is not just said to be an emotional loving father in the human sense, but also our creator and most importantly in this context, our judge. And God is said to be perfectly just, and divine justice would simply not be perfect if there are escape loops such as one person coming to bear the consequence of another persons sin. It is written in the bible itself that we will reap what we sow, and so it is clear that in terms of divine justice, there can be no escape hatch by brining one person to bear the consequences for another person. ...

Are you aware that He Who set The Law of an eye for an eye/reap what you sow also made provision for Atonement?

Or have you never heard of the word called atonement?

See its meaning
Oxford Learner's Dictionaries
https://www.oxfordlearnersdictionaries.com
atonement noun - Definition
[uncountable] (formal) the act of showing you are sorry for doing something wrong in the past

SpencerForbes:
I’ll reply you with simple English because I had promised myself I’ll start ignoring hogwash and senseless articles.

recognize
/ˈrɛkəɡnʌɪz/
To recognize means to identify someone or something from previous encounters, acknowledge a truth/fact, or show appreciation. It is used to indicate identification (e.g., "I didn't recognize her", realization (e.g., "recognize the signs", or official validation (e.g., "recognize their talent". Synonyms include identify, realize, appreciate, and acknowledge. 

understand
/ˌʌndəˈstand/
To understand is to mentally grasp, comprehend, or perceive the meaning, nature, or significance of something, such as ideas, languages, or situations. It involves interpreting information, having familiarity with a subject, or showing sympathy, with common synonyms including comprehend, grasp, savvy, apprehend, and interpret. 

If you mean recognize wish you used in the post I’m talking about, that means he couldn’t identify eve from previous encounters while if you used understand. That would have explained more. So all the men you saw there could identify (recognize) their wives but could not mentally grasp or comprehend (understand) their wives. So your recognize is bullcrap. If she had changed the way you even you talked about, it’s either she later submitted or Adam submitted. If Adam submitted, that means there wouldn’t be patriachy. Because patriarch is built on the man being dominant right from the creation of planet earth while if eve submitted, we both know that it is very rare for women to change their original traits. So all this your ‘real eyeity’ is imaginary brouhaha.

So it's no longer "change" and "shape shifting" that is your problem but "recognise"?

And yet everyone else understood the meaning and places of those words except you.

Common bro, you don't have any valid thing to say and your shifting post to "patriarchy" and that "she later submitted" just proves to you know you have nothing valid to say, so you are catching at air in your fall. Just rest man.

SpencerForbes:
If that’s actually what he meant, then at least you’re trying to make sense now. But that jamboree he was preaching before about Eve shapeshifting and Adam not recognizing her? pure Tales by Moonlight! 😂

Even a Children’s Sunday School class would have a field day with that kind of logic. Imagine trying to teach kids that Eve was 'transforming' in the Garden—they would overwhelm the teacher with questions.

It was beginning to sound like Nollywood script to me. Total Hogwash.

What a dubious interpretation. Which of the people in those threads interpret "change" to mean shape shifting?
As I said you do not have any valid thing to say but are just throwing tantrums because you cannot accept the real eyeity

Gabrielshow24:
We have one here on nairaland😂. It was really funny. It's probably a new school of thought, a false equivocation on the word 'know'👀.

Jokes aside, what I think he meant was the present women, 'Eve', have become 'Lilith'. He might not have expressed it elaborately but this is what he is hinting at.

So, there's no difference between Eve nor Lilith as it's the 'woman' that decides if she will become an Eve or a Lilith. Invariably, it's the same entity. That's what I can see as his crux argument.

As for me, I don't believe in the Jewish folklore of Lilith. It's part of the imaginative and lustrous 'narrative continuity' of the Jews. We find a lot of these in the Talmud.😮‍💨
By the way, Thank God, 'the Ear'👀 didn't happen to chance upon it. Who knows the adulterated version he would have cooked up😂—a slight dig at our 'Abrahamic' Cousins👀.

Thank you brother, you got the point save that i am just trying to use our experiences with wives and women to explain that the supposed Lilith is Eve. As when a woman cheats, she MUST change. And the change always includes rebellion and disrespect where before she was respectful and submissive.

See it
Re: My Wife Has Changed Negatively, Please Advice Me. by NLGwoodey: 6:47am On Apr 22, 2013*

Marriage is like anything else. Either it works or it does not.
Everything is not fixable, likewise marriage.
OP your wife has shown you that there is no love.
In love, one party tends to be more in love than the other.

Are you sure that there is no one bobo wey dey side dey shine her kongo?

Re: My Wife Has Changed Negatively, Please Advice Me. by Katier00(f): 7:24am On Apr 22, 2013
belive me or nt she is havin an affair

It is a pattern traceable to Eve, especially if you note that Adam now called her Eve, which even sounds like ivu after she had finished destruyin him by getting him cussd where she and the serpent would have been the only ones with cusses and punisments

SpencerForbes:
..Let's even follow your 'logic' that Eve changed into someone else or became 'defiled' because she cheated. If that's the case, how come Adam immediately recognized her and even collected 'fruit' from her without questioning who she was? That’s all we need to know. If you can't explain that, just admit you’re reciting what you heard in a WhatsApp group and move on.

Were you just born yesterday?
That is the point of saying everybody knows that when women cheat they are never the same.

Threads don talk am tire, to the point that when a wife changes people must ask if she has cheated.

https://www.nairaland.com/6928742/need-advice-wife-just-changed#109165510

https://www.nairaland.com/5499557/husbands-noticed-women-change-after/4#83684005

Now let me add more since you want to ostrich
https://www.nairaland.com/7937312/believe-wife-cheating/1#127428297

https://www.nairaland.com/7113424/wife-cheating#112582185

https://www.nairaland.com/5334295/wife-changed-2-weeks-after/15#80921771

https://www.nairaland.com/1263756/wife-changed-negatively-please-advice/8#15357242

As I said, threads don talk am tire till it is now stale and boring as everybody knows. So you must have been ostriching or in Jupiter when all these was taking place

SpencerForbes:
No….. all this one you’re doing is hilarious. You said no woman is ‘phulish’ to enter a man’s house. Now the question is simple again. All I need is yes or no and I’ll be off your back. You can’t answer because even to you it sounds ‘phulish’ and I want to hear it from your mouth.

Let’s imagine you find stranger in your bedroom and she offers you drink, a total stranger. Will you drink it or not?

YES OR NO!
Any other long epistle shows how ‘stew peed’ it sounds with that your mysterious and fallacious imaginary appearance of eve. Without Adam knowing and he ate an apple from her hands, a complete shapeshifted woman. He didn’t care if she was the devil, a fallen angel or even a temptation but just ate because he saw her in his garden. Are you the one having problem or was Adam really that du…….b to you?

You are the one creating epistles since you find that you do not have any valid thing to say on this real eyeity, so you have run to make belief and that one is outside the field of play. So, you do not have any valid thing to say

Allgospel:
Give me bible reference

Did you yourself not say Leviticus? And you better use kjv for detestable is not the same as abominable which is what God told Moses to Say. And it is the same reaction as exposing your brother when he invites you to go and serve another god. Deuteronomy 13:6-8

Allgospel:
..Action (Behaviour): The Bible condemns the practice, not the involuntary temptation. We must stop demonizing people for their struggles and start helping them walk in holines..
What’s your take? Let’s discuss according to the scriptures, not according to our feelings.

Read more: https://allgospel.com.ng/insight/what-does-the-bible-say-about-homosexuality

You are talking rubbish.
Homoe shi is taught and if Moses were on ground you won't even be saying this rubbish