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bigpicture001:
U are confusing yourself... A word can be a verb and still b a noun

Sabbath as in commandment of God is a verb

Sabbath as in the name of a sect is a noun..

So sabbath is a church if her members gather in a building and believes in jesus

That is why I said "I have never heard of a Sabbath Jewish church". Even Google too does not know one

9JAFULLBREED:
Joker.

E shock you say you no fit answer.

9JAFULLBREED:
Where is the Garden of Eden Located?

God has taken it away from you.

MrPresident1:
Esau is the one doing all the terrorism.

Where did you see Esau's descendants?
Did you not read that Esau was wiped out?

Ezekiel 25:13: "Therefore thus saith the Lord God; I will also stretch out mine hand upon Edom, and will cut off man and beast from it; and I will make it desolate from Teman; and they of Dedan shall fall by the sword."

Obadiah 1:10: "For thy violence against thy brother Jacob shame shall cover thee[b], and thou shalt be cut off for ever."[/b]

Are there any Edomites left today?
AI Overview
No, there are no distinct Edomites

And funny, you even cited that God Said to Edom that when He tries to rebuild, God will crush them down.

Malachi 1:4
Whereas Edom saith, We are impoverished, but we will return and build the desolate places; thus saith the Lord of hosts, They shall build, but I will throw down;

Yet, you see not and understandeth not and therefore speak leasing.

Meanwhile, Ishmael is still going on giving the world terrors.

Anyway, i know you are ma... so you can't be expected to rational.

bigpicture001:
Since the sabbath is a denominational Jewish church in Nigeria and Jewish places of worship doesn't believe in Jesus being a special being

Now I ask does the sabatarians believe Jesus was a son of God

I have never heard of a Sabbath Jewish church, however, the Sabbath is a commandment by God stated in the Bible and therefore does not belong to any church.

And if you are restricting it to Jewish behaviours, then you must remember that even though the jews were given the Commandments by God, they never kept it and do not believe in keeping. They just did as they pleased which you see the Bible noted in saying

“From the days of your fathers you have turned aside from My statutes and have not kept them."

But Christians who truly understand believe the Bible and Jesus and they try to keep the Sabbath

Imalwayshorny:
Fiction story

You say fiction yet, the Euphrates dried up, you can't even marry and you have been given numbers just as the Bible Said. Continue deceiving yourself

Artsbeat:
My brother or sister there's nothing like hell. if God knows that man will end in hellfire he will not create human being. Jeremiah 1:5.so if God knew me before I was form in my mother womb and he knew that the person is going to hellfire still he created him no I don't believe that . Bro Christ has died for my sin 1 Corinthians 15:3. Nah fear dey worry una Isaiah 43:1. To me ooh no hellfire

Guy, you know that your child will not do his homework and you still punished him.

Jesus may have taken away your sins, but He Said "go and sin no more". So, if you still sinned again, you are on your own because Jesus ain't gonna die a second time.

oluegboigiherbs:
I'm curious o who has witnessed it before ...

Come, let me make you a witness. Come make we go luth make dem chook you stage 4 cancer

psalmsjob:
People who have not been to hell fire will be telling others that people are going to hell fire, how they know who is going to hell fire?

Jesus say do not judge,

the first will be the last,

you call me lord, lord but depart from me you workers of inequities for i do not know you,

Let him who thinks he stand watch else he falls.

God is love and desires that all be saved and His arm is strong enough to save everyone and He has saved everyone but not everyone has come to the knowledge of that salvation that God has accomplished for the world through Jesus and they shall all come to that knowledge in time.

Yes this is True but God it is also written that God loves Just is and has sworn that "the unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone:" aka hell fire, so, this part must also be done

HENRY940:
Study your bible. There is no such hell fire

Matthew 5:22 and co proves you are lying. Continue deceiving yourself

Kalulu44:
There's only question I really want to ask people who propagate this heaven and hell fire nonsense.
The current population of the world is over 6 billion.
Since the existence of the earth and mankind, the dead people are times 10 the current population of the world.
So are you people telling me there's over 60 billion people either in heaven or hell fire now?
The space that contain such amount of people must be outrageous to think about.
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Honestly, some of you must be deluded thinking this world will end. Each and everyone one of us world's end immediately we die. Life continues after your own world ends.

Since your 60billion people are buried even here on earth, does that not prove that the space has already collected them?

And If i say come make we go luth make dem chook you stage 4 cancer, you would run. You are the one deluin yourself cos you know that you are going to hel

Antichristian2:
After death na grave till resurrection! But Christians believes Jesus was a hell candidate after his purported three-day death!

God was unalived and entered Hades abi na Sheol!

See how you Muslims are permanently stu....

So people visiting a prisons are candidates?
https://www.nairaland.com/3046766/lagos-cj-frees-153-kirikiri#44669036

ThePEACEFULBOY:
Fire is limited to the physical realm

So the one you feel when you see your wife doing this to this guy is physical abi

https://www.nairaland.com/7196262/see-what-gym-instructor-caught#114145557

https://www.nairaland.com/5032253/huge-man-caught-woman-personal#75875131

keemsleek:
Thank you my brother, reading the bible is different from understanding the bible. One even said I am confused when they know nothing.

Don't mind the op, 2 out of his 4plugs don't work

Imalwayshorny:
Where's the proof there's heaven and hell fire Jesus might not even exist who knows

So all the heavens and hells wey jennydust and vermina dey give you still did not prove it?

Oya come make we go luth make dem chook you stage 4 cancer, make we see whether you no go confess.

Naijanascam:
Hell and Heaven are two imaginary places

See wishing all because you know you can never be in heaven. But when the doctor tells you that you've got only 24hours to live, that is when you"ll start looking for who to pray for you you to stop your trip to hel

MrPresident1:
Prove this from the Scriptures. Show us where it is written for Ishmael, like it is written for Esau and Amalek, that they are evil cruel and wicked people

Show us from Scriptures

Those 'Muslim' Terrorists are Esau

Scripture is proved by it's prophecy coming to pass. And I already showed you the scripture in bold and you see how Muslims terrorize everybody, you just read that on Friday they nearly crashed a plane. Is crashing a plane not wicked and evil?

Or is murdering farmers not wicked and evil
https://www.nairaland.com/8759120/boko-haram-kills-15-farmers#140809023

Imalwayshorny:
When they rape me and I post the evidence on nairaland a female moderator delete the post

But if na man we no go hear word

You for just post the evidence, no need to talk

Naijanascam:
This an undeniable sad truth that Heaven and Hell is an imaginary places that only exists on people's consciousness

You wish!

Plus, it was not them who told us.

See it, women rape more than men.

Background:

In Ughelli a 15-year old girl named Precious was called by her friend and told to come to a hotel. The girl asked the friend who will pay for her transport, but the friend replied that it would be taken care of.

The girl went to the hotel but her friend wasn't there. Instead there were 4 boys there. The 4 boys demanded for sex, but the girl refused and said that she was on her period.

The boys beat the girl up and recorded humiliating videos of the girl, then two of them raped her.

https://www.nairaland.com/8759092/police-arrest-suspect-rape-15-year#140808454

MrPresident1:
Genesis 16:11-13
King James Version
12 And he will be a wild man; his hand will be against every man, and every man's hand against him; and he shall dwell in the presence of all his brethren.

This is the verse you are requesting, I have quoted it severally. It does not say that Ishmael is cursed, it only defines the kind of individual he is and his ideology and his offspring.

The Bible never said anywhere that Ismael will be a terrorist!

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You see the statement in bold and you see how Muslims terrorize everybody yet you say that the verse does not show that Ishmael has been cursed to be a terrorist as proof of him being born out of evil?

Anyway, it is not today that you would be lying and talking rubbish

keemsleek:
Ishmael is only wild, he is not evil, wicked or cruel.

The evil wicked and cruel one is Esau. Get that into your head.

You know Muslim terrorists have proven that Ishmael is wicked and evil. But Esau's own is special and worser than Ishmael because Esau completely destroyed and ruined God's Plan of having 2 Nations and Headquarters He would have had as His chosen people, which Esau did deliberately and intently.

See now oo, Nigerians no go see say American lawyers too dey make mistake

ThatWriterBoy:
Pardon me, I'm really trying to understand. Does that mean that the days like the creation story explains, are not actual days like we would see them to be?

They are actual days which must be reckoned with since man would surely want to know when and how this house called world, began. However, no human can count and take stock of the days, months and years before they were created, since they were not in existence in those days and therefore were not there. Not to talk of the days, months and years that would pass before they now observe that the days have a pattern of day and night.

So an an accurate and True report of the beginning can only come from a Person Who is not human, Who was there and can be there at the beginning.

And that is why God and the Bible's report beats every other report out there

ThatWriterBoy:
But we believed them before colonialism.

If our grandfathers did, how then did they easily abandon them and switch?

Clearly, tells you that even they too knew that those reports were not entirely True and senseless exactly how a child born in 2016 cannot believe it

Zanzibar1:
Why are there several creator story and not a singular unified creator story?

Are you kidding me? Have you forgotten that people lie and tell tales and twist tales for different purposes?

Even in your family, are there not several reports over a matter? Even in a matter you were present, yet you heard a different report from what you yourself saw with your own eyes.

ThatWriterBoy:
So I take it that you believe the Bible's creation claim is true just because then. Just like you would believe the Koran's creation claim just because, if you were born in Saudi Arabia?

By that philosophy then therefore, Nigerians MUST believe in the reports of Sango, Oduduwa, Oritse, Abasi.

But, we don't

And funny, is Christianity and the Bible from Nigeria?
No!

So, you are talking rubbish

ThatWriterBoy:
If earth was dark and formless from the get go, and God created light immediately, and then created the sun and moon on the 4th day, how were they calculating the days and nights of creation before the sun was created on Day 4?

In fact, God said the purpose of creating the sun ON DAY 4, was so that we can calculate days and times and seasons.

So what was the source of light from the Day 1, and how were they counting the days of creation before Day 4?

Now you have moved post to manufacture a query because I pointed out that you did not raise any fault with the the Bible because it is faultless.

And in your attempt to raise an intelligent question, you think cannot be answered, you forgot many things to support this question. Eg

Is it a human being who has not even being created that can count and say that, that day was the 4th Day?

Even in those days when they said it, Christians told them that they were lying and wrong! So, it is not Christianity that is at a crossroads but the lazy follow follow church goers who do not read nor want to want to use their heads and hearts. Those are the ones who will be confused by the way their scribes change their mouths

Zanzibar1:
The creation story you read in most written scriptures are adapted from other people's oral stories. No one has ever met the creator or how he works and what he wants.

There is no smoke without fire. If they did not meet The Creator, they wouldn't have a need to give reports of their meetings

ThatWriterBoy:
Hello! So I grew up Christian (I know, I know, born again is different and it's not by birth) and I've always believed the Bible as true, but things have started to make me question some things.

I decided to read the Bible from start to finish to maybe get some answers and clear my doubts or maybe even confirm my doubts.

I started with Genesis today, and I have a question... What makes the Genesis story different from other creation stories? I don't know every creation story, but I think there are some that believe the world started from an egg that broke and some parts became sky and other parts became land. I'm sure the Yoruba and Igbo people have their own story of how the world started.

Why should I reject those other stories but accept the one in Genesis?

Is there sky and land in an egg?

The Bible is not begging you to accept it's report however, if your are thinking well, you would see that the Bible's report is falltless which is why rather than pointing out any fallsness you find, which you did not find, you are now placing a burden on the Bible to prove why you should accept it against other reports that do not even stand.

The Bible is not begging you to accept go. In fact leave it alone and go and live according to your preference

GaelllicII:
So, one, it doesn't matter what you may have seen anyone do. Does it conform to the teaching of the Church?

And two, the use of holy images is not condemned by God, but approved by Him, and even sometimes commanded by Him.

All the examples you gave are examples of God using the images to accomplish a thing. And after that, we do not see anyone going to those images to pray or worship them in conformity with the commandment.

So, you are in violation.

But as God Said in Revelation 22:11, continue, Judgement Day will settle all