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paxonel:
You mean there are no good atheists?

If you have ever come across an atheist who is very good, you will know that we Christians are child's play when it comes to being good

There are no good atheists only atheists doing eye service because they know that are very very bad

jaephoenix:
His god boasted he created evil live and direct,yet his followers insist he didn't. Na wao

See how you prove the Bible right that you are an everlasting fu

Despite the fact that you claim to be in the medical field you still lack the intelligence to know that using anything wrongly, whether good or bad eg medicine, acid, electricity is the dangerous thing.

isrealoski:
I think there is an important distinction being missed here.

The question isn't whether God exists. As a Christian, I believe He does. The hypothetical is: if you removed God, divine judgment, heaven and hell from the equation, would you still have a reason to treat another human being with compassion, honesty and fairness?

Stop being deceived by philosophy and it's ideas of creating delusions and keep your eyes on real eyeity.

In real eyeity, no one can remove a creator from his creation. To do that is to destroy the creation.

The Laws of good and evil/crime and punishment are in place because, God, The Creator of them, powers them to remain powerful.

And as you see, blackberry and older phones, no longer work because their creators left them.

Thus, you won't even be here to even know whether you can operate in a certain way because you would not be alive

isrealoski:
...However, I also think human beings have the ability to question society and choose differently. Otherwise, harmful traditions would never be challenged...

Yes, they question, but what do they do about the answers from the questions?

Nothing.

martinskelly:
Nope, a pretentious lier has a demonic spirit of lie inside of them that can be cast away, why devil is devil and will always be the devil that cannot change who he is because he is the devil.

What I'm saying here is that, the guy can be changed if he hears the right truth.

A person who has the evil spirit of lies in him is one who God cursed to be pathological liar. And life has already shown that even normal people without such curses are even evil pip. So, both are the same and most importantly, they both land in lake of fire.

So, you can't change a Muslim. A person soaked in bias can never be converted by Truth. Truth only strengthens bias it does not cure a biased person

bobestman:
You will pick anything you see and be claiming this is this.. this is that. If you go through everything I said and can't see how I clearly show you are wrong, biblically and via ancient texts then a blind bat is better than you. You even know that you are lying but just want to keep the argument going. Keep deceiving yourself

The thread shows i saw your statement and pointed out that your disagreement is based on lies of unfounded claims. And the thread shows that despite asking you to back up your claims with valid evidence, you couldn't. You just went on making even more claims and then trying to deflect as you struggle to find something to say.

The thread shows that since you have finished deceiving yourself with your lying unfounded claims and you see you don't have anything to say, so the only thing you can do is to deflect and make noise in the disguise of finding something to use to keep the argument going since you see that i have shut you up.

doffman:
😅😅

Then , it is not for anyone to also say one person will carry sin of others by shedding his blood .

It is not us who said it but God so carry your sins

This is not just is na?

Why are they euthanasing her?

martinskelly:
You are right, but a pretentious lier is still better than a truthful devil.

God will touch his heart someday.

I think both are the same

werisetogether:
Thanks for your input

While people have a right to their opinions, facts should be respected and considered objectively.

Glad you pointed out the work of the missionaries

Truth is: we probably wouldn't be typing these words if some Christian men and women hadn't left the comfort of their homes to bring us the Good News of the Lord Jesus Christ, with the freedom of thought that comes along with it.

Yes, there were evil acts done by colonialists. But the colonialists were NOT acting on the authority of the Bible

Is Christianity about power, land and money grabbing/stealing? No

The records show that it is the Roman Catholics, soldiers and friends of soldiers who committed all these things.

FxMasterz:
The colonists were politicians. They had nothing to do with the propagation of the Gospel whatsoever...

It amazes me how anyone cannot see this

FxMasterz:
All Deltafire said are LIES.

Lying like his father

martinskelly:
It baffles me too! But I wish he can see the truth and be converted

You can't wake a person pretending to be asleep

doffman:
Thank God you know everyone will carry his/her sins .

No any blood 🩸 will save anyone .

It is not you to decide whether blood will save or not and neither did Christ force you to accept His sacrifice, so carry your sins

martinskelly:
The problem here is the "WE" in your comment.

"We" cannot do it all by ourselves hence the need to surrender everything to God.

The Bible says in;
✝ James 4:7
"Submit yourselves therefore to God. Resist the devil, and he will flee from you.",

so you see "we" can't do it alone only if we dwell in His presence.

But I get your point anyways.

Many make the mistake of trying to place all the work of salvation of themselves on God because of the many scenarios where they saw God saved them even without their input.

Whereas the Bible states that we are the ones to do the work as the bold Said and as living has shown via the many disappointments in which people have expected God to save them as He had done before only for them only for them to enter into the shame and disgrace of sin.

Thus, many do not understand that ranging from 99% in many situations to 90% to 85% the work of evading and resisting sin falls entirely on man. But churches do not teach this therefore many perpetually struggle with sin

gulfer:
Permit me to ask about the heading, is it "Lust of sin" or "sin of lust"

Hhmm! Good observation.

I also thought it was about lust until now I see it is about sin

martinskelly:
Me angry at you NEVER!, explain the meaning of the Bible verse you quoted simple?

Or you think it was talking about God and Jesus?
Or are you trying to relate the verse to meaning that God never gave His son to die for mankind?

Guy;
Pretext(what was happening).
Context(what is happening)
Post-text(what has happened or will happen).
Those are very critical in analysing scriptures okay, not just some random quotation in the name of wanting to make a blind assumption or validation.

You're trying to reason with a Muslim? You would be successful reasoning with a dog than with a Muslim

doffman:
Shioor 😂

Which sin again nah .

I tot u guys said one person you called your god has carry away your sins 🤣🤣.

Your eyes go soon clear .

Ezekiel 18:20: "The soul who sins shall die. The son shall not suffer for the iniquity of the father, nor the father suffer for the iniquity of the son."

🚶

Thank God you say that it is sinners who are in peril, so hope you have not sinned and of course all your sins from birth to death will be accounted for

Stop being tipsy, it was roman Catholics who committed all those crimes and not Christians. Not to even forget that they did the same crimes to Christians

bobestman:
All the thrash you wrote are just assumption and claims. No one agreed with you here. Rather dey are correcting you. Biblically it's zero.. no proof. Via all ancient texts it's still zero...you don't understand the story and just pick what you want. When others try to teach from those books you will condemn them. Your claims here are total hogwash

Yet, the thread shows that 3 times i asked you point out what is wrong with it like every other person tried to do, but you could not until you finally showed that your disagreement is based on lies and unfounded claims which is why you could not directly say what was wrong with my post as you already knew that you had nothing. Hence, why you are making all these silly noises and trying to deflect your inability to make any valid and reasonable counter.

Please, go and rest, you are just making useless noises trying to deflect attention since you don't have anything valid to say

wumiwumi100:
I understand your distinction, but I think we are using "free will" differently. I am not arguing that having consequences means a person cannot exercise their will freely. My point is that this shows why what we call free will is not absolute.

What is the meaning of having the absolute freedom to do whatever you want if there are conditions attached to your choices, including punishment for choosing something God has forbidden? You can still make the choice, but the choice exists within a system of rules and consequences. That is conditioned freedom, not absolute freedom.

Your Eleko Beach example actually illustrates my point. Yes, a person can freely decide to walk from Eleko Beach to Ikoyi, but the physical limitations of the environment determine what can actually happen. The person has the ability to choose, but not unlimited freedom to accomplish whatever they choose.

The same principle applies to Adam. He could freely choose to eat the fruit, but he could not choose to remove God's prohibition or the consequence attached to breaking it.

And there is another important point. As long as a being has the genuine ability to choose differently, there is always a possibility that it will choose something God does not want. Adam and Eve were perfect, yet they disobeyed. Satan was a good heavenly creature, yet he chose to rebel against God, and other angels are also described as having sinned.

So my argument is not that consequences eliminate the ability to choose. My argument is that free will is conditioned by rules, circumstances and consequences, and therefore it is not absolute. And if even perfect beings can choose against God's will, then perfection itself cannot guarantee permanent obedience.

Ok. Your point is free will is not the same as absolute free will

You are making a mistake. Free will is simply the exercise of your freedom of will. It is immaterial if nature or retaliatory/responsive consequences truncates the exercise of your freedom of willing.

So, thus, a person can exercise his will freely, to walk through eleko beach to Ikoyi, even if he will drown if he tries to accomplish that will.

So, the mere fact that you have freewill does not mean that it must always be accomplished. Those are the mistakes your post makes

Expanse2020:
Is the same bible that said seek truth and it Shall set you free...

If originality of the bible is in doubt..
If truth is mixed with false
If you called it word of God and is not accurate....

How are we sure you follow the right path

Antiislam

Off Point.
Further, If you want to pretend that you are not able to discern Truths, there isn't anything anyone can do

bobestman:
You will never change
When e don enter your body you don calm down
You are the one making claims and teaching what you know nothing about. What you are teaching is not in the bible you claim to believe. You borrowed it from some Jewish on ancient writings. Now when people teach or counter what you said from those writings or those older you will say they are making claims cos you don't want to agree. You are just deceiving yourself

You are trying to proof that Lilith and Eve are the same on this thread and still saying no where did I see you teaching that Eve and Lilith are the same. You are just confused. Many people have corrected you but you still want to stick to what you don't understand. The thread didn't make any sense at all. It's total hogwash. You will do yourself good if you delete it. Thank you

You are just talking rubbish. The thread already shows everything and that you are trying to oppose my post, but because you are making unproven claims as a basis of your opposition, I have raised that in objection to your attempt. And since your claims are not true and you cannot prove them and you have nothing else to use to oppose my thread, you have now resorted to deflecting and trying to switch the burden of proof.

Peterrio:
Is stage 4 cancer the hell fire the bible speaks about?

If it is, who has ever denied that stage 4 cancer exists?

See more evasions, pretences, deflections and dodgings. It is not necessary for you to say something

bobestman:
Your problem is that you never agree to be wrong even when it's very clear. You will always twist it to keep arguing

You said you are a Christian who believes in the bible and you are teaching people that Eve and Lilith are same. What you are teaching even the bible and your fellow christians disagree with you cos it's hogwash. I open your eyes to some of these things and showed who Lilith could be in the bible something you can never understand. Instead of you to calm down and learn you are trying to whitewash it


These things you are trying to teach is far ancient than the bible. It's of another era. You don't even understand how this things work. Their are ages or eras. Once one is ripe and done it's destroyed by flood or fire and another begins from which a man and a woman will start another. Lilith is the first on earth. The Adam am talking about is the king of light who was the leader of those who fell. That era is the era where gods lived here far older than the era of homo sapiens Adam. Many called or write him as Adam cos he was divine.

The Homo sapiens Adam's wife was Eve and this was written clearly in your Bible Lilith was the serpent who tried to destroy their union. Lilith was since the beginning. The biblical Adam carries the spirit of the king of light that became one body with Lilith. Even your Bible tells you about the first Adam and second and what they are Incase you want to argue about how Adam became two. The man who begins a new world is more like Adam. Homo sapiens Adam's wife was Eve and she is completely different from Lilith

You think all these things just happened together that is where you are wrong. Their was a time only gods ruled this earth. Gods have lived here before the homo sapiens Adam came in. People already lived here before the homo sapiens Adam was. Deuteronomy 32-8-9 called the sons of Adam but they were gods and each have their territory. Gods ruled this earth before mortal Adam came in. This is how men begin the worship of gods cos some of them then saw these gods and the extraordinary things they did. This is why men began worshipping gods


See I can go on but you are too heady and always hate to be wrong. You will always come up with something to trash everything. Their are many things here for you to learn. If you like no learn. They form superman

First, the thread shows that whilst you are trying to oppose my post, your opposition came by way of making unproven claims which is what I pointed out. So, you have not made any correction not to of me twisting anything.

And, nowhere do you see me teaching people that Eve and Lilith are the same, i only argue against you Lilith followers that the facts are showing and proving that Lilith is still Eve. And this is a deflection/fallacy red herring.

So, yet again, you are still making claims begging for proof

Peterrio:
I don't claim to have an all powerful God

But you do

Chook yourself, then let your all powerful God help you remove it.

Ask yourself why both good christians and normal christians all die from cancer

You are just dodging and deflecting.
No one said you claimed you have a powerful God neither did I make such a claim.

The claim is simple, you don't believe in hel fire, come let them chook you stage 4 cancer exactly as we put the hand of the person in fire so that he sees for himself that fire is hor, since he does not believe

But, if want to run, run, it is allowed but stop deflecting and stop raising what is not the issue

bobestman:
You want me to talk right?
The topic of your presentation alone shows you are wrong. Lilith and Eve are 2 different people not one. You want people to proof to you from the bible for you to believe anything but you can't say where Lilith was in the bible
They were 3 in the garden Adam, Eve and the Serpent.

You are wrong biblically

Eve and Lilith are different. She is more of the serpent cos serpent was one of her [b]totems[/b]She came as a serpent to trick Eve to fall cos she fell out with Adam cos of her stubbornness.

...

You are still saying the same thing i pointed out is wrong. You are making a claim begging for proof as rebuttal rather than proven facts.

You are claiming that Adam wss her husband amongst other claims, yet, no proof.

Meanwhile, i prove that Eve is and can be the purported lilith as we have all seen that when a wife becomes corrupt and bad, stubbornness and many bad things as described about lilith, always come out.

And additionally, "totem" is a symbol and not a person where you are trying to say that she is a person who can be a woman, serpent, man, dragon, lion etc which is already proven that it is not possible.

And if you are implying lilith is satan, that is yet another claim you still have to proof.

So, you have not said anything worthy of being rebuttal

donkarly:
See the kind pressure some women dey put men under;just 4 months of marriage

Imagine.

SQLmastar:
Use some funds and charter a periodic Bolt rider for her. Especially for busy days, antenatal, market. Budget 200k to be used from now till child birth.

After gives birth, she would still say she needs the Bolt for busier days, post natal, market, weddings, school programs, church programs and now the budget is everlasting.

If you start it, you don enter.

Nehyooh:
The wife is just stressing the man.
She can as well add to the 800k so that they can get a car.

Abi oo. Is it not the same 2 hands, 2 legs and one head both of them are using?