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Not always.

Adam, Cain, Esau, Ananias and Sapphira, Jezibel etc did not have second chances

MaxInDHouse:
Please i don't want insults so if you can't discuss without insults stop mentioning me.

The first death refers to the one humans inherited but where the resurrection awaits us all second death simply total destruction.

So sin against holy spirit has no resurrection which means such ones goes straight to the second death. As for fire it's the symbolic term God used for complete destruction God will never burn anyone forever that's totally against His person.

It's either you live or die there is no third place. Genesis 2:17

I did not insalt you, i only reminded you The Law.

And yes, second death is a total destruction. But what type of destruction or rather how is the destruction going to be? Revelation 20:10/20:15/21:8 Says, the destruction is by "casting into fire to be tore mented day and night".

Which means that they would be alive in the fire and through Shadrach, Meshach and Abednego, we see God has already proven that He can keep people alive in fires!

Solofresh2:
You lost. You can't refute the examples. You can't admit the retreat. So you keep writing paragraphs, hoping volume will replace logic.

The thread is stamped. Everyone can see it. You lost. Move on

Yet, here you are desperately crying for a reargument and even lying that I did not state the fallacy you committed whereas, the thread shows i did. Keep wailing.!! Ok, i understand you want to talk last. Ok take it and don't cry again.

MaxInDHouse:
According to the Bible where do creatures come from and to where do they return?
Ecclesiastes 3:20

That, clearly is the first death Revelations 20: 6 confirms which every reasonable person all over the world including Google confirms

Ai+
The "first death" in biblical terms typically refers to the natural, physical death of the human body that all people experience,

the Bible establishes physical death as the consequence of the Fall in Genesis 2:17 and Genesis 3:19 ("for dust thou art, and unto dust shalt thou return" ).

You already know that it is Written all liars shall have their part in the fire

Solofresh2:
You just defined 'fallacy' as if that proves I committed one. You didn't name the fallacy. You didn't quote where I committed it. You just said the word and hoped it would stick.That's not an argument. That's a magic spell. Say the word 'fallacy' and hope the other person disappears.

You said 'no rich woman would ever marry down unless she's ugly, rejected, or damaged.'
I gave you five examples: Queen Elizabeth II, Jacinda Ardern, Serena Williams, Nicki Minaj, Meryl Streep.You dismissed them as foreign.I gave you Nigerian examples,Stella Damasus, Toke Makinwa, Tiwa Savage.You dismissed them as 'burnt products.'You changed the terms of your own argument every time it was challenged.

That's not me committing a fallacy. That's you moving the goalpost. And when I called it out, you started calling me 'delusional' and saying 'Temi Otedola is your wife' a strawman I never said, never implied, and never believed.

You lost the argument. You just can't admit it. So you keep writing paragraphs about me, hoping volume will replace logic.The thread is stamped. Everyone can see it. You lost. Move on.

See how you are embarrassing yourself. The thread already shows that i stated the fallacy you committed and named it but here you are, as you are used to denials, lying about it and desperately trying to reargue the matter since you lost. Nothing for you.

There are so many things that are part of "looks" that are beyond fine boy, tall, fair, abs, etc

Your class worth, status, financial standing, popularity, sex ability, manipulatability or controllability etc are also part of your "looks". And these things are what a woman examines and calculates in making her decision to walk with you and for how long she would do so..

Derived001:
From what I see here in the UK in can tell you that there are single dad raising their kids on their own

Since they have broken the family and reduced everything to contract and money, then they have to if they don't want to pay child support and prison time

Solofresh2:
You keep saying 'the thread shows.' But the thread doesn't show what you think it shows.
You said 'no rich woman would ever marry down unless she's ugly, rejected, or damaged.'I gave you examples. You dismissed them as foreign, then 'burnt products.'You changed the terms. I called it out.Now you're saying I lost because I forced you to say it.That's not logic. That's a retreat dressed as victory.

And the 'Temi Otedola is your wife' line? You keep repeating it because it's the only strawman you have. I never said that. I never implied that. You invented it to avoid the real point.

You made an absolute claim. I disproved it. You couldn't refute the examples, so you dismissed them. That's not a win. That's a forfeit.

You're not debating anymore. You're performing. And the thread speaks for itself.

All these is just you trying to create a reargument since you lost, The very second you resorted to fallacious arguments, you lost.

fallacy
fal·la·cy
A fallacy is a common error in reasoning that makes an argument invalid, unsound, or weak.

And in all these you forget that the essence of an argument is to distill what is is good for us to use to further for our good living. But since that was not your mind is why you are crying and trying to make a reargument.

Because all others are wicked

triplechoice:
Don't put words in my mouth. I never admitted anywhere that my morality comes religious beliefs. I said it comes from multiple sources, one of which is religion. "From religion" or "religious based" is not the same as from "religious beliefs"...

Is religion not rooted in belief? So, how is a religion based extricable from religious beliefs? Like separating saw dust from wood.

Your kind of self deceit is legendary oo

Solofresh2:
You keep saying I lost. But you're the one writing paragraphs about me. You're the one keeping score. You're the one who can't let go...

The thread shows that i did not keep scores nor said anything about loss or wins until you said it. And so, you forced me to point out that you had since lost.

As i said if you want to jump into fire, go ahead. it is not me who burns and if you enjoy living in the delu that Teni Otedola is your wife, carry on.

Jumbojax:
I can't believe I'm arguing with something that rates AI over the bible, or man made definitions over God's word. Are you this reprobated that you use Artificial Intelligence to combat spiritual realities

Why are you disgracing yourself talking like uneducated?

Did you learn A,B,C and English from the Bible?
No

Is the Bible a dictionary?
No!

Here are the definitions in a dictionary
Merriam-Webster
https://www.merriam-webster.com
FAITH Definition & Meaning

noun
ˈfāth
1
a: allegiance to duty or a person : loyalty
lost faith in the company's president

(2): belief in the traditional doctrines of a religion

:belief and trust in and loyalty to God

b(1)
: firm belief in something
They had faith that everything would work out.

(2)
: complete trust
have faith in the process

These are the things you do that make atheists call you brainles

tanigororo:
You mean Hypocrite God, who cannot forgive any sin. At least he should have forgiven Satan, forgive Adam. He can only forgive those who killed his son

Where did you see God forgive those who murdered His Son?

And why did you not say that this boy should be forgiven?
https://www.nairaland.com/8602510/father-kano-murder-suspect-demands#138196002
May evile wrap you daili

youngEmelex:
So you will allow such number of your children to fall if you are a parent? Or is God not the parent of them all?

If the parent is not himself a an accomplice, which parent will be associated with a murderer, a kidnapper, terrorist, a child ɠrapist etc?

Did you not see the father dissociate from his son who was a murderer? Did you not see everyone demand that Just is be meted out to the crime committer?

https://www.nairaland.com/8602510/father-kano-murder-suspect-demands#138196002

As i said If you like, let 800biillion times 800billion people fall, Just is must still be done

Derived001:
In Nigeria some men are happily single fathers and even in the UK living with their kids…THOUGH most times the women wins child custody until the child gets to 18 years when he/she get to choose who to live with
✌️

In Nigeria and in many places, the children of single fathers are with the mother of children or with the father's mother or sister, if the child's mother dumps the child with him.

Never, seen a case a single father took his child and kept him/she in his house with him, without mama, sister, aunty or a woman he later marries and dumps the child on

Uchesis:
So hellfire pain is like losing your girlfriend to another man abi?

No wonder nobody wants to repent again. Bad bad people just full everywhere

See it. You are still changing it. I said "the pain of your girlfriend sleeping with your neighbour, but because you cannot bear that one you now watered it down and changed it to" losing your girlfriend to another man" nobody said.

Let them not repent na, when they start screaming in fire, it won't concern me. God is good but me, i pray they don't repent so that I can see their faces when the Judge Says, " sentenced to eternity years in hel with such sentences to run consecutively for each offence

GaelllicII:
You don't know what you're talking about.

Give me an example of a commandment of God which the Catholic Church is in violation of.

Be honest and accurate in your statements, though. And don't be in a hurry. I foresee this could take a while.

I have had these arguments tirelessly here and in the end all your brothers ran away as they could not supply a valid answer

"Thou shalt not worship nor bow to images of any person,thing, animal etc

Here are you disobeying
https://www.nairaland.com/1068273/proof-catholics-worship-mary/1#12487258

https://www.nairaland.com/7093943/worshipping-imageswhat-does-bible-say#112230169

Wow! See as Christians and God lovers plenty. 😁😁😁

Jameslara1:
I don’t need to keep lurking around with goofy ass like you. Y’all are a nuisance to the society preaching dead foreign boys

Still won't change the fact that your pains, sufferings and frustrations will be upgraded tomorrow and your tomorrows would always be worser than yesterdays, for the remainder of your 65yrs

FayaBall:
The evil a woman cannot do does not exist!

You can say that again.

No evil remain wey women never do.

achorladey:
The unquestioning blind obedience in that religious organization no be small.

They are even looking for ways to defend their GODS who oppress them with words of mere men

That is what it looks like when people desperately hang on to the people who fuel their delus.

achorladey:
Most of their members by now should have no doubt that these men they call Governing bodies have nothing to do with the God of heaven, they are PRACTICALLY a F...... R..... A.....U.......D.


In fact they even had to change the policy regarding disassociating members who accept blood transfusion. Before any member who accepts blood transfusion is automatically DISASSOCIATED but now they are asked to consult with the legal abi na service department

I believe they all know that they are in cult but because of the benefits of connection to strangers who would never have answered them in the normal first place, is why they don't want to leave.

achorladey:
Most of their members by now should have no doubt that these men they call Governing bodies have nothing to do with the God of heaven, they are PRACTICALLY a F...... R..... A.....U.......D.


In fact they even had to change the policy regarding disassociating members who accept blood transfusion. Before any member who accepts blood transfusion is automatically DISASSOCIATED but now they are asked to consult with the legal abi na service department

I believe they all know that they are in cult but because of the benefits of connection to strangers who would never have answered them is why they don't want to leave.

MaxInDHouse:
You have refused to answer my own question o!😁

Since you left us have you found a replacement for JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES organization?

How does it concern you?

It is even that it is a shame that after all the time he has left you people he is still rejecting you people and not thinking of returning exactly like a husband who has left his evil wife.

He proves that being without you people is very very much better.

achorladey:
Loooool! Even their publications states clearly their own parameters of identifying false prophets and they were caught deep within their own parameters

God is making sure that they are caught and from every corner,

I am sure this same thing happened to Adam and this is the origin of bad marriages.

And it is for fornication that caused it

Fekumzi123:
Sometimes it is better to be slow.
If I was slow then I wouldn't be in this mess I am now with three children and a wife I didn't plan for.

Now you understand that Exodus 22:16-17 is one of the punishments for fornicators.

Fekumzi123:
Sometimes it is better to be slow.
If I was slow then I wouldn't be in this mess I am now with three children and a wife I didn't plan for.

Now you understand that Exodus 22:16-17 is one of the punishments for fornicators

God!

Maybe God is trying to save him.

Goo0dHardDick:
Adam didn't feel any space dude. He didn't even know what woman was!

It was God himself that immediately concluded within himself that Adam was lonely and needed a look like.

Adam was never bothered at all. He was completely okay on his own. How can Adam need space for something he has never seen before? A creature he has never ever seen nor imagine? How una dey reason sef

This is not correct.

Yes, he did not know what a woman was but he knew he needed something.

And life has shown every young man that where before he was only interested in football, video games, his boys, he wakes up suddenly needing a girl/woman. And it is when this feeling came that men started seeing girls and yearning for them AND PRAYING TO HAVE A GIRLFRIEND. Thereby setting the tradition of young boys/men toasting girls and women.

This is the same thing that happened to male Adam (for both of them are Adam) which God Saw (and of course knew would happen as It was already His Plan to give male Adam, female Adam to be his wife) and responded to.

And that is the same thing that happened to every man in this world as every man experienced this same thing when it was time for him to be connected to a girl

And that is why till tomorrow and the world ends, as bad as women are today, men would still keep on opening threads about women because they are yearning for them

Stephen0mozzy:
"Fullest" is subjective. What it means for you, may not mean the same for others.

But personally, I'm at my most happiest when I have some decent money in my expense account, can eat goat meat pepper soup back to back and play games online 😁

But "life to the fullest" for me includes having a child - so I need a woman for that.... And with a good woman, you get more than that too.

Wetin you won do with child? Men and children don't go together